Zoe Saldana’s ‘Nina’ Gets First Poster, More Online Backlash

hat's a pgebillsonlyplease, post: 16265762, member: 36277"]i wouldn't even say that. they're mad cause she don't consider herself of african descent.

Yeah thats a problem but typical of the Dominican coon. I.e. Sammy Coonsa.
 
Nah fam, she ain't on par, she looks right. That's just what it is lol its the reality of the situation.

And whether she wants to admit it or not means a whole hell of a lot too can't dismiss that lol. That counts. but id rather they got someone who didn't look like nina simone who had the acting chops to pull it off than someone who doesn't look like her, doesn't have the acting chops and is given prosthetic and black face to compensate for it

What you mean? She looks nothing like herself. To be honest, I didn't even know that was Zoe Saldana. :lol: I saw Columbiana and Drumline.......a few others. She's not a bad actress. I'm sure they would love to do like they do black biopics and just go out and get Chad Boseman and go out and have one person do all the biopics lol. But they don't have that equivalent for black females I guess. I think the chic from Walking Dead who plays Michon would've been a nice candidate to play her. But I don't think she has the name they want in Hollywood. You have to sell it to these idiots in Hollywood who put money behind these projects and Zoe has a decent enough resume to get money behind their project. There's so many politics behind it all.
 
You could post a photo of Nina Simone along with other randomly selected Black female singers from the 60s and a majority of the "protesters" couldn't pick her out

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Where did she say that? I'd like to read it myself.

ZOE SALDANA: “I AM A BLACK WOMAN”

Posted by Cipriana Quann

09/17


As I was searching for inspirational style pictures on one of my favorite style sites ”Black and Killing it”http://blackandkillingit.com created by Neil Alvin. I came across a small debate that seemed to stir when Neil posted a comment from a reader about a quote that the beautiful, talented and well known actress of Star Trek, Avatar and most recently Colombiana, Zoe Saldana stated. The comment reads as follows:

“When I go to the D.R., the press in Santo Domingo always asks, “¿Qué te consideras, dominicana o americana?” (What do you consider yourself, Dominican or American?) I don’t understand it, and it’s the same people asking the same question. So I say, time and time again, “Yo soy una mujer negra.” (“I am a black woman.”) [They go,] “Oh, no, tú eres trigueñita.” (“Oh no, you are ‘dark skinned’”) I’m like, “No! Let’s get it straight, yo soy una mujer negra.” (“I am a black woman).”

Most of Neil’s readers felt there was no need for a debate and that it was this woman’s prerogative while a few others were a bit peeved that Zoe identified herself as a black woman and thought she should identify herself as mix. Why do you think Zoe’s comments irked some nerves?

http://urbanbushbabes.com/zoe-saldana-i-am-a-black-woman/
 
https://brothawolf.wordpress.com/2015/03/06/verns-venting-i-just-dont-get-zoe-saldana/

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Actress Zoe Saldana has found herself embroiled in some serious controversy recently for agreeing to play noted soul singer Nina Simone. Many black folks are up in arms about the film company’s choice to hire her and to some extent, I think they are right.

First off, it’s extremely irritating and insulting for her to have to darken her skin to embody the part. There are a number of talented dark skinned actresses that would have made a much better decision to pick.

Second, Ms. Saldana has declared in several interviews that she doesn’t consider herself a black woman. Mind you, I said a black woman, not just a black woman since she does have a multicultural ancestry. Yet, although she doesn’t think she is black she takes this role and the role of Uhura in the rebooted “Star Trek” franchise. She also played the daughter of Bernie Mac in the 2010 remake of “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner”. If Ms. Saldana doesn’t want her range of offers to be limited, then stop taking acting jobs specific to black women, especially when an acting gig requires you to black face your skin for a woman that had a lot of issues with her skin tone.

Much of Nina’s legacy as a songwriter was centered around her pain at being a severely dark woman of color in a world that hates women like that. Nina, who died sadly at 70 years old in 2003, never shied away from making the hurt she felt public knowledge. She wore it bare for all the world to see through her music in a very unapologetic fashion.

I don’t know Zoe personally, but I doubt seeing how much lighter she is that she could relate to what Ms. Simone was singing. That’s another thing they will most likely get, another woman to lip-sync for her. And really, do the studio executives funding this honestly believe that getting Zoe for the role was the best idea? She hasn’t truly pulled her acting chops by what I could see starring in stupid romantic comedies or doing voice work as a creature. I guess Zoe doesn’t see anything wrong with her other films where she doesn’t have to be the ‘black woman’. She is the color of a fucking crayon.

The reason why I am on the side of the people who didn’t want Zoe to play Nina Simone is because of Hollywhite’s notoriously bullshit attitude towards black women. (Well, all women of color, actually, but especially black women.) White males in Hollyweird prefer to pick someone that is kind of black but not too black. This means they just need her to make it look good enough as not to step on too many toes. But that is exactly what they are doing by hiring Zoe. If Nina were alive today and knew about this, she would probably go outside and practice turning over in her grave!

Little miss ‘I’m not really a Negro’ taking this role is a slap in the face to the lady who bravely dealt with the worst type of discrimination. At least 80’s multi-racial actress Rae Dawn Chong played women that were very ambiguous in their racial make-up. Yes, she did star in “The Color Purple”, but there were any number of light skinned black females that resembled her. Rae never said one thing then did another, and she certainly didn’t make a career out of playing puppets.

A memo to Zoe; if you aren’t black, then stop taking jobs from other black women who proudly identify themselves as what you refuse to. Zoe is almost as bad as that embarrassing “SNL” token that doesn’t even look like a token Maya Rudolph. Yes I know that Maya’s mom was the great Minnie Riperton and that she has a white father, which is why she has that skin color but damn! Kate Winslet makes a more convincing black woman than Maya does or Zoe for that matter.

She reminds me of NBC anchor Soledad O’ Brien in that they want to have it both ways. They want to marry white males and live like white females all while saying, Hey I’m maybe, sort of, will pretend to be black. Granted Hollywood is a place of fantasy, and I don’t for one second buy that this movie will tell Nina’s story in any way that is accurate. They already don’t respect what she stood for by who they picked to portray her. However, that doesn’t absolve Zoe who isn’t practicing what she’s preaching.

There is a very rich history to the songs that people like Nina Simone created that shouldn’t be sullied by Hollowood bigwigs. If it feels like I’m throwing shade on Zoe, then that’s precisely what I am doing. She isn’t some babe in the woods; she knows how difficult it is for other black women. She doesn’t want to be associated with them. Yet, she has no qualms always trying to steal their thunder.

I know that Ms. Saldana is not responsible for the racism hierarchy that exists in her chosen profession. What she is responsible for though is selfishly profiting from it because her skin is brighter and her figure that much smaller. Zoe’s attitude reminds me of an excellent point made by a woman in the poignant Bill Duke documentary “Dark Girls”. She said that she was so sick of black folks whining how they are Haitian or Jamaican and not black because when the Klan showed up they weren’t going to care about those folks distinctions.

I wonder how Ms. Saldana thinks she would get treated in a situation not protected by the Hollyweird limelight. Actually, now that I realize it, those feelings are IN Hollywood and come from the very white people with all the power. Whether Zoe cares to admit it that is exactly why she gets picked for the roles that she does. It’s also why much as she imagines that those white males love her, she will never be competing with the likes of Reese Witherspoon or Jennifer Lawrence for the big movies. Perhaps they will suddenly decide to trade white skin for fuzzy blue fur, but I highly doubt it.
 
http://madamenoire.com/277357/zoe-s...ity-the-nina-simone-backlash-and-bisexuality/

Zoe’s name has been a little bit of everywhere this week. If it’s not for appearing undressed on the cover ofAllure, having her 115-pound weight exposed to the world, it’s for claiming she might settle down with a woman later in life. Has she really said anything about Star Trek 2 Into Darkness yet?

Anywho, while being interviewed by BET.com, the actress discussed why she’s so uncomfortable with people always asking about her ethnicity, why she doesn’t appreciate people trying to categorize her, and why she can understand the Nina Simone backlash, but why it also hurt her. Here are the tidbits that had us talking:

Why she’s sick and tired of talking about her ethnicity and race:

“I find it uncomfortable to have to speak about my identity all of the time, when in reality it’s not something that drives me or wakes me up out of bed every day. I didn’t grow up in a household where I was categorized by my mother. I was just Zoe and I could have and be anything that I ever wanted to do…and every human being is the same as you. So to all of a sudden leave your household and have people always ask you, “What are you? What are you?” is the most uncomfortable question sometimes and it’s literally the most repetitive question. Because I can’t wait to be in a world where people are sized by their soul and how much they can contribute as individuals and not what they look like.



…I feel like as a race, that’s a minute problem against the problems we face just as women versus men, in a world that’s more geared and designed to cater towards the male species.”

On the rumors that she is bisexual after her statements in Allure:

“It’s again, I’m telling you, the saddest situation. I encourage every human being to spend one hour a day without categorizing and stereotyping anything, or using any titles. It is almost impossible for us to get through one cache without having to go, ‘Is she Mexican? Is she gay? What kind of car does she drive?’ Our lives are going to slip and we are never going to grow and realize that it’s so much more beauty in this earth and so many more things that are important besides stereotyping ourselves and limiting ourselves just by putting ourselves in little boxes.

That said, I’m an artist and if I was to limit myself as an artist and go, ‘As a an artist, I can only like feminine art because I’m a woman,’ I’d be the stupidest person on earth and I wouldn’t be an artist at all. If I look at beauty, I’m going to love and admire beauty no matter if it comes in the form of a masculine essence or a feminine essence. Beauty is beauty. So, up until now, I’ve known my life to be with men, I’ve been attracted to the male species, but if one day I wake up and I want to be with a woman, I’m going to do that. And I know I am going to be supported by the creatures that have raised me and love me and know me.”

And of course, her thoughts on people being very vocal about their disdain for the lengths she was going to in order to play Nina Simone:

“All I can say is, though it did sting for a bit, that a community that you feel most identified with, would have such a negative backlash and you are at the epicenter of it all, it was very disappointing. But at the same time too, it is understandable. All I can say is the people that came together to do Nina, came together out of love for Nina and that will never be wrong, and I will always stand behind that.”

Good points. Check out the full interview and series of videos from her sit-down where she looked visibly uncomfortable over at BET.com.

http://www.bet.com/news/celebrities...find-it-uncomfortable-talking-about-race.html
 
Actress Zoe Saldana has been inserting the proverbial foot in her mouth in recent weeks. The “Colombiana” starlet has been media blitzing for the upcoming “Star Trek Into Darkness” film and leaving a trail of disrespect in her wake. A fellow Clutch editor, Yesha Callahan, thinks Saldana needs a dictionary and a clue. I concur and also think she needs to enroll in an Introduction to Critical Race Theory course ASAP.

During an interview with BET, Saldana candidly discussed how she views race, alleging “there’s no such as people of color.”

When asked how she racially-identifies, Saldana responded:

I find it uncomfortable to have to speak about my identity all of the time, when in reality it’s not something that drives me or wakes me up out of bed everyday. I didn’t grow up in a household where I was categorized by my mother. I was just Zoe and I could have and be anything that I ever wanted to do…and every human being is the same as you. So to all of a sudden leave your household and have people always ask you, “What are you, what are you” is the most uncomfortable question and it’s literally the most repetitive question. I can’t wait to be in a world where people are sized by their soul and how much they can contribute as individuals and not what they look like.

She wasn’t done retorting.

I literally run away from people that use words like ethnic. It’s preposterous! To me there is no such thing as people of color cause in reality people aren’t white. Paper is white. People are pink, it’s a bit ridiculous when I have to explain to a human being, that is an adult like I am, that looks intelligent but for some reason I have to question his intelligence and explain to him as if he was a two year old, my composition in order for him to say, “Oh I guess I can chill with you, I can work with you.” I will not underestimate a human being and I will not allow another human being to underestimate me. I feel like as a race, that’s a minute problem against the problems we face just as women versus men, in a world that’s more geared and designed to cater towards the male species.

That is a situation that, I spend time thinking about, and working towards ending that, I guess we could talk about that.

Saldana’s decision to accept the role of Nina Simone as a labor of “love” makes her view of race and racism all the more puzzling. It appears as if donning Blackface and depicting Simone has done little to connect the actress with the crooner’s spirit. You can’t portray Nina Simone without realizing how intricately race was intertwined with her life and career.

In fact, communities of color must contend with race and racism daily, from the school-to-prison pipeline to the slow siphoning of resources from our schools. But I guess for women like Saldana, we’re post-racial, Simone’s legacy be-damned.

Maybe the ultimate fixer, Olivia Pope Kerry Washington, can hip her fellow thespian to the truth about post-racial fantasies.

http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2013/05/girl-bye-zoe-saldana-claims-people-of-color-dont-exist/

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No wonder. Why the fuck are we letting people who look like this write about and direct movies of our legendary Afrian-Americans?

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Cause you aint financing this film or any other film.

Call Spike with a budget and a commitment from Jennifer Hudson and Terrence Howard and you can tell any story you want.

Them Jews in Hollywood don't care about Black tears.
 
I'm not surprised she now wants to start identifying as a "black woman." For her and hollyweird it's all about box office. She and they will do and say anything to sell tickets. Man listen, those dominicans are some of the most color struck Black folks on the planet. She has never in her life considered herself black and doesn't now. She's also not that good an actress to pull off somebody as powerful and important as Nina. And all these white folks involved. smh. They have no idea of how Nina was intertwined black lives in the 60s. Like I said, it's all about ticket sales.
 
Joseph Fiennes playing Michael Jackson or Idris Elba playing James Bond... same scenario or different?
 
It's hard to take this movie seriously as a biopic when the main character has been caricaturized in this manner. No respect for Nina Simones legacy because if they did they would take the time to properly cast her. It's just an attempt at snagging an Oscar because biopics about musicians and black musicians often win. It speaks to the already lack of respect Hollywood has for black actors and talent. It doesn't matter who plays us anyone can be or play black people in a movie or can be easily replaced. Once again black people are marginalized even when trying to play ourselves and once again it just shows the utter powerlessness black people have in any industry in this country. They're getting Joseph Fiennes to play Michael Jackson in a biopic and I guess it wouldn't be so bad if he could pull it off I mean that's what Hollywood is all about right?
 
It's hard to take this movie seriously as a biopic when the main character has been caricaturized in this manner. No respect for Nina Simones legacy because if they did they would take the time to properly cast her. It's just an attempt at snagging an Oscar because biopics about musicians and black musicians often win. It speaks to the already lack of respect Hollywood has for black actors and talent. It doesn't matter who plays us anyone can be or play black people in a movie or can be easily replaced. Once again black people are marginalized even when trying to play ourselves and once again it just shows the utter powerlessness black people have in any industry in this country. They're getting Joseph Fiennes to play Michael Jackson in a biopic and I guess it wouldn't be so bad if he could pull it off I mean that's what Hollywood is all about right?

Two things:

1) Will blackface become more accepted in society today after this? "Well shit Zoe did it, why can't I?"

2) If color no longer matters, can Elba play Bond?
 
Two things:

1) Will blackface become more accepted in society today after this? "Well shit Zoe did it, why can't I?"

2) If color no longer matters, can Elba play Bond?

1) If they can convince people no one else could have played these roles without blackface. Or someone is trying to win an award for make-up artist. Blackface been accepted it just wasn't PC back then. Hollywood just going back to its roots trying to do it PC.


2) James Bond is a billion dollar franchise I doubt they letting a black face lead that shit. You know race only matters when white people say it does. :rolleyes:
 
Wow! Those pics look terrible!

I'm afraid to even look at the trailer.







Her sister can get it tho
 
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