Deadpool dropped 58% ...Race 7 million weekend...

I wanted to see it this weekend, specifically... especially when I learned it was independently produced. Just didn't have the time.

And a 58% drop for Deadpool is normal for an action film, but I thought it would have held a little better than that from word of mouth. I wonder if that's ominous, or if it's a case of it opened so huge, it had no choice but to fall off that much. I mean, a $55 million second week ain't nothing to shake a stick at.
 
I saw Race.....1pm show on Saturday 15 people in the theater
My Mother in Law goes at 7pm same day...Crowded but More White People than Black :confused::angry:
 
i saw deadpool so i had to go see race off gp.
it was an ok movie. it was what hollywood wanted it to be.
notice a pattern though?
find an unknown black guy to play a well known prominent historical american black figure.
look for him to blow up and get offered some part in the future off of this.
 
Maybe it's me

The movie poster with the black man's face and the word "race" underneath it struck me as unsettling.

Maybe it's me.

I'm thinking it's a play on words. Running a race, the Germany master race, and the race of the man that whipped that ass.
 
Nuff respect to Jesse Owens. His story deserves to be told. I loved reading about him as a kid but I'm kind of exhausted with all these movies about black people struggling.

Right the whole story about Jessie Owens needs to be told as he didn't care for some of the black movements back in the day.
 
I hope Race does some business because Eddie the Eagle is right on its heels and the reviews are good. The director aint had a hit since Predator 2 , his framing is solid, I like the way some of his editing works on screen too. Not sure about the pacing but that is the story crammed together not so much the editing, I dunno, Im not sure where the beats were missed but something is always off with his films.

Deadpool will survive, the word of mouth is still building and it may have legs well into March.

Matter fact, even if its knocked out the top spot, it doesn't matter Deadpool proved its point on the first weekend. And this was after they gave them 50 plus mil and then took 7 mil back and made them edit out a slew of action scenes leading up to the finale. It broke enough records on its baby budget and has the biggest R rated opening of all time and that aint going nowhere no time soon.

I saw Race.....1pm show on Saturday 15 people in the theater
My Mother in Law goes at 7pm same day...Crowded but More White People than Black :confused::angry:

THIS.

There are times when I see whites are more socially curious about blacks than... blacks. Weird shit but true. I remember walking into Straight Outta Compton and half the theatre was filled with white folks. And more of them knew the words more than I did.

Maybe it's me

The movie poster with the black man's face and the word "race" underneath it struck me as unsettling.

Maybe it's me.

No. Youre right. That was the point. It was a play on all those issues at once because that's largely what the flick was based on. At the same time too many threads take the focus off of the main one but that's okay. They tried.

i saw deadpool so i had to go see race off gp.
it was an ok movie. it was what hollywood wanted it to be.
notice a pattern though?
find an unknown black guy to play a well known prominent historical american black figure.
look for him to blow up and get offered some part in the future off of this.

42 - co sign.

Soon as that cat was announced for Black Panther, people were screaming and jumping up n down because of the instant connection. Again - more white folks were happy about this than black folks. To be honest, some cats that aint into comics don't even know exactly who Black Panther is.

I'm thinking it's a play on words. Running a race, the Germany master race, and the race of the man that whipped that ass.

Yup. You got it.

Right the whole story about Jessie Owens needs to be told as he didn't care for some of the black movements back in the day.

DAMN. Youre right too. So many thinks working for Owens as a black athlete but then again personally, he had some issues. All gifted people do but when it comes to race and you are a black man - your actions speaks VOLUMES.\

oNE
 
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I aint worried about Deadpool...it did MORE then it was supposed to to and not only started a franchise but saved a few OTHER franchises probably STARTED a few NEW franchises and saved a studio

so salute to them they gonna KILL on cable streaming and DVDs

heard the actual comics are on a strong uptick too...

RACE just something was off...looked a little whitewashed to me.

And if they didn't discuss how the American Government destroyed that man later in life...I wasn't interested.

a quality documentary would have been fine even a good 30 for 30.

the preview looked like the Jason Sudekis Golden Globe nomination reel

and I actually LIKE him.
 
i saw deadpool so i had to go see race off gp.
it was an ok movie. it was what hollywood wanted it to be.
notice a pattern though?
find an unknown black guy to play a well known prominent historical american black figure.
look for him to blow up and get offered some part in the future off of this.

hope so
 
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

expected number for Race...?



anybody see it...?

Review...?

read this review...interesting

Predictable Jesse Owens Biopic Race Works Best When It Focuses on Its Subject


The best moment in Race comes about midway through the film, as young American athlete Jesse Owens (Stephan James) first walks into the 100,000-plus-seat Berlin Olympic Stadium, newly built by the Nazis for the 1936 Summer Olympics in Germany. We’ve seen glimpses of the construction up until this point, complete with ominous, martial music. The building is meant to be imposing, a symbol of the then-resurgent Reich, and it is. In one continuous take, we see Jesse walking in, his mouth agape at the immensity of the place, as the camera pans around the arena, taking in the sprawl of the crowd, before catching, way off in the distance, the tiny figure of Adolf Hitler taking his seat. We then continue to follow Jesse as he puts on his running shoes, digs a hole in the track with a trowel, takes his position, and waits for the starter pistol. But even though the camera shows us the crowd, we’re not really wowed with the scale or size of the stadium; any awe we may feel for the ingenuity or accomplishment of the people who built that place remains second-hand. No, the biggest thing on that screen is Jesse Owens. It’s a scene that encapsulates what’s best about Race, which works when it remains focused on his experience.

Directed by Stephen Hopkins, Race is, in many ways, a fairly staid and predictable biopic about Owens’s early career in college athletics and his triumph at the 1936 Olympics, where he won four gold medals, virtually thumbing his nose at the Nazis’ deluded visions of lily-white Übermenschen. The film’s early scenes show Owens arriving at the Ohio State University, contending with the racism of the era and learning to work with coach Larry Snyder (Jason Sudeikis). These scenes are filled with sports movie coach-and-pupil tropes, with obligatory references to how Snyder himself lost out his chance to go to the Paris Olympics and whatnot. Still, there’s an interesting idea here, in Snyder’s belief that hard work and training are more important than natural talent; it’s a subtle rebuke to the notion of superior races. (“Me personally, I don’t trust naturals,” Snyder says. “They think they don’t have to work as hard as everyone else.”) But the script doesn’t take it much further than that, and Sudeikis’s performance never quite manages to transcend the character’s clichés. He’s his usual bland, inoffensive self here, minus any humor or irony or edge; we’re told Snyder regrets and maybe even resents the fact that he missed out on his big chance as an athlete, but we don’t really feel it. The young Canadian actor James, however, is something else. As Jesse Owens, he mixes confidence, bewilderment, and subdued rage into a powerful whole. It’s not a big, show-offy performance. Quite the contrary: He’s surprisingly quiet, watchful. Everything seems to be submerged, but still present.

We find little of that delicacy in the film’s several other subplots. Race also takes us backstage as the Americans debate boycotting the Olympics, and U.S. Olympic Committee head Avery Brundage (Jeremy Irons) negotiates with Joseph Goebbels (Barnaby Metschurat) over what can and can’t happen during the Games. Meanwhile, the filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl (played by the great Carice van Houten as a plucky artiste with little patience for authority or ideology) prepares to shoot her documentary about the 1936 Olympics, which she will turn into a testament to the physical wonder of the athlete. It’s interesting, watching Riefenstahl film the momentous Olympia in the midst of this whole other movie about the Olympics: There’s always something to be said for the gumption of a film that contains a major subplot about another, better film being made about the same event.

There’s a lot of tempering and whitewashing going on here.

Riefenstahl, Brundage… these are complicated historical figures with complicated reputations, and the film presents watered-down, easily-digestible versions on them. Even its portrait of that monster Goebbels leaves something to be desired; here, he’s not a character, but a perpetual cold sneer. It’s not so much that the film should be humanizing these personages.

But given the amount of time it does spend with them, one wishes Race offered up something beyond their comic book variations. Like so many other historical lessons, it winds up being a film of half-measures: It offers up just enough context and color, but not so much as to actually make you think.

Well, not entirely. Race does draw some uncomfortable parallels between the situations in Germany and the U.S. in the 1930s. There’s something electric when Jesse, visiting with the German athlete Luz Long (David Kross), whom he’s just defeated in the long jump, remarks that deep down, the racist U.S. doesn’t feel that different from Hitler’s Germany. “When was the last time you played 18 holes with a Jew, or a Negro?” someone asks in the midst of the American officials’ debate over whether to boycott the Games over the Nazi treatment of Jews. The question hangs in the air, and Race makes it clear that, in some ways, Germany’s madness is simply a more brutal manifestation of hatreds that know no borders. In rare moments like these, Race achieves the moral complexity that this fascinating story deserves. Would that it were this brave more often.

http://www.vulture.com/2016/02/race-works-best-when-it-focuses-on-jesse-owens.html
 
I wanted to see it this weekend, specifically... especially when I learned it was independently produced. Just didn't have the time.

And a 58% drop for Deadpool is normal for an action film, but I thought it would have held a little better than that from word of mouth. I wonder if that's ominous, or if it's a case of it opened so huge, it had no choice but to fall off that much. I mean, a $55 million second week ain't nothing to shake a stick at.
For real
 
Maybe it's me

The movie poster with the black man's face and the word "race" underneath it struck me as unsettling.

Maybe it's me.
The thing that got me was these scene in the promo with the white dude jacking Owens up on the wall then the line "Well you're white! "
Owens was critical of the black power salute brothers as well.
I'm glad for those that went to see it though. It is an important story to tell.
For those that did see it, did they make the American white man look like the motivator?
 
I wanted to see it this weekend, specifically... especially when I learned it was independently produced. Just didn't have the time.

And a 58% drop for Deadpool is normal for an action film, but I thought it would have held a little better than that from word of mouth. I wonder if that's ominous, or if it's a case of it opened so huge, it had no choice but to fall off that much. I mean, a $55 million second week ain't nothing to shake a stick at.

agreed
 
Maybe it's me

The movie poster with the black man's face and the word "race" underneath it struck me as unsettling.

Maybe it's me.

It's not just you. Once again Hollywood decided to bite Paul Mooney

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read this review...interesting

Predictable Jesse Owens Biopic Race Works Best When It Focuses on Its Subject


The best moment in Race comes about midway through the film, as young American athlete Jesse Owens (Stephan James) first walks into the 100,000-plus-seat Berlin Olympic Stadium, newly built by the Nazis for the 1936 Summer Olympics in Germany. We’ve seen glimpses of the construction up until this point, complete with ominous, martial music. The building is meant to be imposing, a symbol of the then-resurgent Reich, and it is. In one continuous take, we see Jesse walking in, his mouth agape at the immensity of the place, as the camera pans around the arena, taking in the sprawl of the crowd, before catching, way off in the distance, the tiny figure of Adolf Hitler taking his seat. We then continue to follow Jesse as he puts on his running shoes, digs a hole in the track with a trowel, takes his position, and waits for the starter pistol. But even though the camera shows us the crowd, we’re not really wowed with the scale or size of the stadium; any awe we may feel for the ingenuity or accomplishment of the people who built that place remains second-hand. No, the biggest thing on that screen is Jesse Owens. It’s a scene that encapsulates what’s best about Race, which works when it remains focused on his experience.

Directed by Stephen Hopkins, Race is, in many ways, a fairly staid and predictable biopic about Owens’s early career in college athletics and his triumph at the 1936 Olympics, where he won four gold medals, virtually thumbing his nose at the Nazis’ deluded visions of lily-white Übermenschen. The film’s early scenes show Owens arriving at the Ohio State University, contending with the racism of the era and learning to work with coach Larry Snyder (Jason Sudeikis). These scenes are filled with sports movie coach-and-pupil tropes, with obligatory references to how Snyder himself lost out his chance to go to the Paris Olympics and whatnot. Still, there’s an interesting idea here, in Snyder’s belief that hard work and training are more important than natural talent; it’s a subtle rebuke to the notion of superior races. (“Me personally, I don’t trust naturals,” Snyder says. “They think they don’t have to work as hard as everyone else.”) But the script doesn’t take it much further than that, and Sudeikis’s performance never quite manages to transcend the character’s clichés. He’s his usual bland, inoffensive self here, minus any humor or irony or edge; we’re told Snyder regrets and maybe even resents the fact that he missed out on his big chance as an athlete, but we don’t really feel it. The young Canadian actor James, however, is something else. As Jesse Owens, he mixes confidence, bewilderment, and subdued rage into a powerful whole. It’s not a big, show-offy performance. Quite the contrary: He’s surprisingly quiet, watchful. Everything seems to be submerged, but still present.

We find little of that delicacy in the film’s several other subplots. Race also takes us backstage as the Americans debate boycotting the Olympics, and U.S. Olympic Committee head Avery Brundage (Jeremy Irons) negotiates with Joseph Goebbels (Barnaby Metschurat) over what can and can’t happen during the Games. Meanwhile, the filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl (played by the great Carice van Houten as a plucky artiste with little patience for authority or ideology) prepares to shoot her documentary about the 1936 Olympics, which she will turn into a testament to the physical wonder of the athlete. It’s interesting, watching Riefenstahl film the momentous Olympia in the midst of this whole other movie about the Olympics: There’s always something to be said for the gumption of a film that contains a major subplot about another, better film being made about the same event.

There’s a lot of tempering and whitewashing going on here.

Riefenstahl, Brundage… these are complicated historical figures with complicated reputations, and the film presents watered-down, easily-digestible versions on them. Even its portrait of that monster Goebbels leaves something to be desired; here, he’s not a character, but a perpetual cold sneer. It’s not so much that the film should be humanizing these personages.

But given the amount of time it does spend with them, one wishes Race offered up something beyond their comic book variations. Like so many other historical lessons, it winds up being a film of half-measures: It offers up just enough context and color, but not so much as to actually make you think.

Well, not entirely. Race does draw some uncomfortable parallels between the situations in Germany and the U.S. in the 1930s. There’s something electric when Jesse, visiting with the German athlete Luz Long (David Kross), whom he’s just defeated in the long jump, remarks that deep down, the racist U.S. doesn’t feel that different from Hitler’s Germany. “When was the last time you played 18 holes with a Jew, or a Negro?” someone asks in the midst of the American officials’ debate over whether to boycott the Games over the Nazi treatment of Jews. The question hangs in the air, and Race makes it clear that, in some ways, Germany’s madness is simply a more brutal manifestation of hatreds that know no borders. In rare moments like these, Race achieves the moral complexity that this fascinating story deserves. Would that it were this brave more often.

http://www.vulture.com/2016/02/race-works-best-when-it-focuses-on-jesse-owens.html

I felt the same way about the Jackie Robinson movie.
 
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