Engineering Graduate Student Developing Heated Pavement System for Airfield Runways

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Scraping ice off windshields, salting driveways, shoveling walks — all miserable activities associated with winter weather. As much as individuals dread those activities, airport directors dread them even more because they have to carry them out on a much larger scale. However, graduate student Joseph Daniels is on the verge of developing a solution.

Daniels, a doctoral student in civil engineering, is studying heated pavement systems for airfields. The idea is to incorporate wiring into concrete, then transfer heat through the wires to warm the pavement.

The concept of a heated pavement system for airfields has been around for decades, but has yet to be implemented because of cost constraints. So, Daniels is taking a new approach.

"I am looking at using solar energy to heat the pavement," he said. "I am collecting solar energy, storing it in battery banks and then pushing the collected energy through the wiring system to heat the concrete."

In his preliminary research, Daniels has found an inch of ice will melt from a heated pavement surface in under an hour.

"An inch of ice is not a typical condition, but I wanted to get worst case scenario results," he said.

Airfields are currently cleared of ice with snow plows, chemical deicers and salts. However, these products can be damaging to the pavement, causing cracking, spalling and surface scaling.

In addition to the damaging effects, the current process lacks in efficiency.

"When snowy and icy conditions are present throughout the day, maintenance crews have to continue plowing and applying chemicals all day long," Daniels said. "That's not something you have to worry about with a heated pavement system."

The lack of efficiency can also impact flyer safety, which is a big concern for the Dwight David Eisenhower Research Fellow.

"Last year, a plane landing at LaGuardia airport skidded off the runway and crashed into a berm upon landing," Daniels said. "The runway had been cleared of snow and ice just five minutes before, but within that time frame the ice reappeared, preventing the plane from gaining traction on the ground."

Though these types of incidents are rare, Daniels wants to prevent them altogether.

Daniels said it will likely be two or three more decades before a heated pavement system is employed on a drastic scale, but he thinks real progress is being made.

"I feel like we're on the cusp of this research actually being implemented, and I want my research approach to be recognized and seen as credible in the field," he said.

http://news.uark.edu/articles/33619...g-heated-pavement-system-for-airfield-runways
 
But they already have heated sidewalks and heated driveways.....is his a new idea or just the application is new ?
 
If he had been an electrical engineer, he would probably have shelved the
idea.. I think it is stupid.
 
Thankfully no one pays you to think. No American born American takes your views seriously.
Concrete is a terrible conductor
Concrete is a very brittle material
You would need thick wire running
under the concrete to be able to
get enough energy to effect any kind of
warming... But E= IxIxR, and R is inversely
proportional to the cross sectional area
of a conductor meaning that the bigger
the conduct, the less the resistance, and
therefore the less heat generated. To
counteract this, you would need to drive
in more current. Clearly you cannot do
this with a solar panel. But maybe you
can draw the power directly from an
electrical power station, after all, when
transmitting electrical power over a
distance, we step the the power to say,
18 000 volts, in order limit the IxIxR
losses...

The scheme is stupid, and he might be better
advised to run pipes of hot water under
the runway....
 
As I have said, engineering is not a perfect science and 99% of the
experiments go nowhere. If this scheme had any possibility of
working, don't you think that the excellent engineers in the many
countries in Europe would have embedded heaters in the walls of
their cold homes?
 
As I have said, engineering is not a perfect science and 99% of the
experiments go nowhere. If this scheme had any possibility of
working, don't you think that the excellent engineers in the many
countries in Europe would have embedded heaters in the walls of
their cold homes?


Don't come at me like I'm not well versed in alternative energy. I'm not the average bgol member. I liked u better when u spoke so highly of fellow african bisquick chicongo the spit flinger playing the butt trumpet
 
Don't come at me like I'm not well versed in alternative energy. I'm not the average bgol member. I liked u better when u spoke so highly of fellow african bisquick chicongo the spit flinger playing the butt trumpet

Who said anything about alternative energy?

Why should I care about what you think of
yourself?
 
This reminds me of he solar highway project that had everybody so stoked, that is until they started crunching the numbers about its effectiveness and real world cost...
 
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All you gotta do is run HOT water thru pex pipe under your drvieway.. (then right back into your hot water heater/tank) then into your shower/bath.


during the summer months, the HOT concrete keeps YOUR water hot.

during the snow days, it melts the snow/ice.

during all the other days, just disable it.


folsk been doing it this way for years

pex pipe is only 100feet for like $26 at homedepot/lowes.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_307998-61002-APPR10012_1z10xvu__?productId=3660048&pl=1
 
I did ya chump. I don't value the opinion and useless wisdom of individuals like yourself.
You could displayed that by ignoring me. I never
even heard of you until you decided to play high
and mighty today. You are obviously so useful
yourself that no one even cares to know who you
are
 
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All you gotta do is run HOT water thru pex pipe under your drvieway.. (then right back into your hot water heater/tank) then into your shower/bath.


during the summer months, the HOT concrete keeps YOUR water hot.

during the snow days, it melts the snow/ice.

during all the other days, just disable it.


folsk been doing it this way for years

pex pipe is only 100feet for like $26 at homedepot/lowes.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_307998-61002-APPR10012_1z10xvu__?productId=3660048&pl=1

Thank you; Finally someone with sense in his head
 
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they like 50cents from china each. and on ebay for under $1 each
The thermal mass of this is what, 0.0001? How many would you need,
for one runway, 1, 000, 000? What about the energy to run them, and
how well would they work under the pressure of a 200 MD80s landing on
them a day, 365 days a year, as is the case with the 7 runways at DFW airport?


Let talk about simple electricity. So lets assume you deploy that contraption
with those same 18 gauge wires, and you run them 200 meters from the
battery bank, if you modelled that circuit, you would probably have more
resistance in the wires than in whatever transducer you have enclosed in
that white container. The power, ie heat energy, would be dispersed in direct
proportion to the resisters in a series circuit. The wire would therefore
consume most of the energy before, and after it got to the heating element.....

Errr
 
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