Father Ordered to Pay $600 in Child Support Arrested for Killing Mother and Child

Most of my shit is flying over some of you guys head... I am not suggesting that men shouldn't be held accountable for children, I am suggesting that both mother and father be held accountable...
Not one get thrown in jail while the other rewarded with money no matter how bad of a parent they are..
Women want to fuck, then they can fuck, but they have to protect themsleves from allwoing shit to grow out of their bodies... They need to stop with that bullshit, saying it was an accident... Because if it was an accident then all women of all races who fuck (and believe me they all do) would have the same rates of "accidents"..
Now if they say it happens because the guy promised he love her, then simple, make him and his love marry them... Hmmmmmm not happening is it... I find it strange that the same women complaining about child support are also the women who are getting married the least...
Hmmmm I wonder why, perhaps the child support system makes them virtually unmarryable, or less attracted to guys who want a wife...
The fact is many black women choose to have babies by some of the worst pieces of shit excuse for a man, and once they do, both her children and herself has to live with that decision for the rest of their lives..
Now I don't give a fuck how these women choose to live their lives, but when their dumb decision fucks with the lives of innocent children I have a big problem...
 
"Dude the vast majority don't get pregnant because it is some diabolical plan to get 18% from some minimum wage worker.

They are either careless or they are in love ( or think they are ) and if you add in the very young ones because they love the thought of having a baby to love because they don't get love anywhere else."


So as soon as they came out with the child support system black women all of a sudden got stupid and careless? The how would you explain the dramatic drop in teen pregnancies in NYC right after they reduced the welfare support for children?
Did they all of a sudden get smart and careful???
 
Guys complain because they feel they are giving the woman money and not getting anything for it.

All their complaints are about the woman and you never hear them speak of the child

They aren't complaining about the child's treatment nor are the going to court...and let the woman start fukkn somebody else they lose their fukkn minds and want to stop paying

Its about the child period...

I think a large part of it is this. But i also think they don't want ANYTHING taken from them. That's a part of it i feel. A percentage of it seems to me to be, the powerlessness of it they feel. As i've said before, a bunch of them don't want the responsibility of taking care of the child. And a slightly larger percent know their not properly FIT to take care of a child.

I remember many times telling men to seek custody. And i can't remember how many times i heard enthusiasm or SURE! It was almost always i can't by myself. Their mother... this or that. Or they automatically assume that the court gives a child to the mother just cause. They have no idea how the process works. And also i heard a lot of "Well just give the kids to me then...(after they hear how much the judge tells them to pay in support). Because ya know... that's going to work.

The more compassionate side of me feels it may be all of the above. But regardless. They do not know how the system works.
 
or maybe your uncle was an aberration like the videos you post and this faggot ass that shot his baby
Perhaps and perhaps your case doesn't fully represent what some guys experience in the system... Or perhaps if there were no child support system maybe you and the child mother wouldn't had the child or perhaps if you did perhaps you guys will still be together... The statistics sort of points that out...
 
"Dude the vast majority don't get pregnant because it is some diabolical plan to get 18% from some minimum wage worker.

They are either careless or they are in love ( or think they are ) and if you add in the very young ones because they love the thought of having a baby to love because they don't get love anywhere else."


So as soon as they came out with the child support system black women all of a sudden got stupid and careless? The how would you explain the dramatic drop in teen pregnancies in NYC right after they reduced the welfare support for children?
Did they all of a sudden get smart and careful???

No there have been unwed mothers and outside children forever...Stop thinking it started with child support.

child support was a reaction it was preventive.

and they aren't smart and careful now..
 
I didn't doubt the cause and effect, but as I said before it not as clear as say Jim crow.you can call those men and women dumb but they are still making free choices.not only that but you also have to take into account more women going to the work force and a lot being more educated/paid than men.to your point at one point in time women were more depended on men and it was excepted.when I was asking about numbers, I was more so speaking on your proof that other races/cultures are treated differently when it comes to child support and visitation.
Its a lot more dramatic that I thought look at these numbers..

And yes it does effect other races also, but not as much as us blacks, so I am not so concern about them as I am my people...
My question is, if welfare is supposed help black mothers and children, why is it the stats are saying the opposite..[/QUOTE]
I didn't ask about that and one of your original statements was that (correct if I'm wrong or I misread) blacks were treated differently when it came to child support and visitation rights. That's the data I'm asking about but that doesn't change the part men play in creating life.
 
Perhaps and perhaps your case doesn't fully represent what some guys experience in the system... Or perhaps if there were no child support system maybe you and the child mother wouldn't had the child or perhaps if you did perhaps you guys will still be together... The statistics sort of points that out...

it ain't my case its real life.....it's quite a lot of people I have known and people in my family as well...

it's real life not some statistic created to bolster a position
 
No there have been unwed mothers and outside children forever...Stop thinking it started with child support.

child support was a reaction it was preventive.

and they aren't smart and careful now..
I never said you would be together I am saying accordign to the numbers chances are you guys would have been or at least not have a child, because before 1970 most black people who had children did it under wed lock, today I believe 80 of blacks do it out of wed lock... So with out speaking in absolutes according to those figures, chances are you guys would have been married or not have a child, back then..
 
I think a large part of it is this. But i also think they don't want ANYTHING taken from them. That's a part of it i feel. A percentage of it seems to me to be, the powerlessness of it they feel. As i've said before, a bunch of them don't want the responsibility of taking care of the child. And a slightly larger percent know their not properly FIT to take care of a child.

I remember many times telling men to seek custody. And i can't remember how many times i heard enthusiasm or SURE! It was almost always i can't by myself. Their mother... this or that. Or they automatically assume that the court gives a child to the mother just cause. They have no idea how the process works. And also i heard a lot of "Well just give the kids to me then...(after they hear how much the judge tells them to pay in support). Because ya know... that's going to work.

The more compassionate side of me feels it may be all of the above. But regardless. They do not know how the system works.

Of course it's that. it's telling her that I don't need no white mans court to tell me how to take care of my seed...and you know I'll do what I can...then the baby is without but when she files it's a betrayal...nevermind he been betraying his child.

besides that as long as she has to depend on him to hand it to her then he has control and what he gives will rely on that control.....i was gonna drop off a couple hundred last night but your ass wasn't home so get it from that nigga..

:lol:
 
Its a lot more dramatic that I thought look at these numbers..

And yes it does effect other races also, but not as much as us blacks, so I am not so concern about them as I am my people...
My question is, if welfare is supposed help black mothers and children, why is it the stats are saying the opposite..
I didn't ask about that and one of your original statements was that (correct if I'm wrong or I misread) blacks were treated differently when it came to child support and visitation rights. That's the data I'm asking about but that doesn't change the part men play in creating life.[/QUOTE]
I never said they were treated differently, even thought I've heard both black men and whites say this all the time... I said black people and poor people are usually effected by the system more, only because poorer women are more enticed by the money and the added perks... Notice you seldom see educated black women with tons of kids and baby daddy dramma..
 
Bitch was a jump off. His weak ass check was prolly only 1100 every 2 weeks

How much is your check?

Its a lot more dramatic that I thought look at these numbers..

And yes it does effect other races also, but not as much as us blacks, so I am not so concern about them as I am my people...
My question is, if welfare is supposed help black mothers and children, why is it the stats are saying the opposite..
I didn't ask about that and one of your original statements was that (correct if I'm wrong or I misread) blacks were treated differently when it came to child support and visitation rights. That's the data I'm asking about but that doesn't change the part men play in creating life.[/QUOTE]

RoadRage won't address your questions empirically because he pushing a neoconservative narrative that doesn't hold up under scrutiny. Welfare benefits don't wholly correlate with the rise in OOW births.
 
I never said you would be together I am saying accordign to the numbers chances are you guys would have been or at least not have a child, because before 1970 most black people who had children did it under wed lock, today I believe 80 of blacks do it out of wed lock... So with out speaking in absolutes according to those figures, chances are you guys would have been married or not have a child, back then..


bullshit......all you gotta do is read obituaries and you'll see how many cats had kids from different women the same ages or withing they marriage to another woman.

dude....you have no clue what you are talking about...

you also had more family taking the children from their unwed pregnant relatives and raising them..
 
and most of those cats would not take custody for a couple hundred dollars a month...and have their lives dominated by the needs of a child.

it sounds good to say fuck that she ain't shit ima get my daughter/son until they realize that couple hundred ain't no reward and it takes a lot to be a parent and do it alone.....
 
bullshit......all you gotta do is read obituaries and you'll see how many cats had kids from different women the same ages or withing they marriage to another woman.

dude....you have no clue what you are talking about...

you also had more family taking the children from their unwed pregnant relatives and raising them..
Then that would show up in the unwed children statistics, don't you think?
 
Then that would show up in the unwed children statistics, don't you think?

doesn't have too.... much of that isn't reported and there were a lot that called them selves common law married.


besides census data always been wrong in our communities.
 
and most of those cats would not take custody for a couple hundred dollars a month...and have their lives dominated by the needs of a child.

it sounds good to say fuck that she ain't shit ima get my daughter/son until they realize that couple hundred ain't no reward and it takes a lot to be a parent and do it alone.....
The problem I am talking about isn't fathers taking care of their children, because in my opinion every father should... The problem and real cause of our problems in America, is that women are having babies by men who don't want to be fathers..
Any real father knows that their is way more to raising a child than paying their bills and buying clothes for them...
So just like most responsible men protect themselves form ratchet irresponsible women, women should protect their children from ratchet irresponsible men.. But they don't, you know why, because their master is paying them good money not to....
 
so do a better job of raising your sons.

bad parenting and lack of resources takes time to show the consequences..

do a better job of raising your daughters and give them a male role model to strive to get......if the males she sees growing up ain't shit she will end up with a cat who ain't shit
 
All I know is if you were fucking a dime and your condom broke in her whats the odds of her having your baby..
Your condom breaks in a prostitute what is the odds of her having your baby...
Your condom breaks in a cute Asian chick what are the odds
Your condom breaks off in a educated black woman what are the odds.
Your condom breaks off in a educated white woman.....
Your condom breaks off in a ugly fat, hood rat chick now tell me whats the odds of an accident happening....
This is why bugar bears always be having at least three kids.... And real dudes who actually gets pussy know what the fuck I am talking about!!!
 
so do a better job of raising your sons.

bad parenting and lack of resources takes time to show the consequences..

do a better job of raising your daughters and give them a male role model to strive to get......if the males she sees growing up ain't shit she will end up with a cat who ain't shit
You are right , but guess who will not raise their kids to think like this.... The same bugar bear that some poor sap condom broke off in.... The ugly fat chick with the three kids and no baby daddy to be found...
Now her sons are the retarded mother fuckers that these women seek to have their baby daddy of their own, especially when no real man would fuck with them like that...
Ever see a bitch so ugly with five kids and you have to ask yourself , now who or what would fuck something like that...
Well its the retards, and on retarded man can father way over five women in a year... They don't care becasue they are retarded, and the mothers don't care, because they are getting paid, but sorry to say, the ones who suffer the most are the children...
 
I could easily say I don't give a fuck about men who get fucked by these dumb broads, because in my opinion half of them are either simps with no pussy game, or retards... I know that shit has not and will not happen to me... But this situation is not about me and whats happening to me.. It's more about our children and the children being denied growing up growing up under the love of both parents who care and love them more than life itself..
 
so do a better job of raising your sons.

bad parenting and lack of resources takes time to show the consequences..

do a better job of raising your daughters and give them a male role model to strive to get......if the males she sees growing up ain't shit she will end up with a cat who ain't shit
Not just your kids but kids in general. White man does this and does that to our communities but they live by the whites rules of everything though. If you want to build a black community you can't just let it end with your kids. Everyone's kid is your kid in the community.
 
Not just your kids but kids in general. White man does this and does that to our communities but they live by the whites rules of everything though. If you want to build a black community you can't just let it end with your kids. Everyone's kid is your kid in the community.
I know a lot of Russian sluts who like to party and fuck, a lot of time raw dog, but guess what, they never wind up pregnant...
Once they are done playing the slut role, the ones that keep their looks wind up marrying some conservative rich guy and they move on withe their lives... Mater of fact the only white bitches that wind up with babies are the poor trash ones...
 
Man go to the meat packing district in NYC on a Friday night and you will see all types of white chicks ready to fuck hard... But guess what, they fuck hard, drink hard and take their drugs, but guess what they never get pregnant... But why is it you fuck one Buger Cow and your condom breaks, your 90% certain to get them pregnant. Why is that???
 
Not just your kids but kids in general. White man does this and does that to our communities but they live by the whites rules of everything though. If you want to build a black community you can't just let it end with your kids. Everyone's kid is your kid in the community.

Exactly...this is how our communities use to be...We still had poverty, we still faced racism but we had community and as a people we were better for it...

To many have sold their sold for material things and lost that focus..we have to get that back
 
how would everyone fell, if the kid wasnt his? (and he had to pay child support on it)

If he lived in a state that had a law that said the child is yours if you are married or some similar law, I may feel bad, however if that isn't the case I wouldn't care. I would always recommend all men to make sure the child is their kid as soon as possible.if you choose not to for any reason, you don't have the right to complain about taking responsibility for another man's child. People usually only think about money, but you or the child finding out the truth later on in life could cause bigger problems than the money you invested.
 
Not so fast playa!!! Lets check how the real world works...


This fuckery is the norm that happens to black men in family court.

And yet you niggas applaud your faggot POTUS and Pill Cosby for calling out so called dead beat dads.
 
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