No Iowa caucus thread?

Sanders gonna get it by .1......come on, feel the Bern..

Nah I think Hillary will narrowly pull out the win
They are saying Polk county in Iowa, has a lot of people & delegates...and Hillary is favored there
Obama beat Hillary in Polk county, but Bernie will probably lose there
Bernie just needs to get his message out to more people in the next few weeks

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Damn son, I am seeing on the news they are calling it a tie !!!
Shit is like watching a football game ending in a tie (49ers & Rams game)
And how is Hillary going to spin this shit ???
Is a Clinton/Sanders tie even possible ???
Someone go find & ask Donovon McNabb


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Damn son, I am seeing on the news they are calling it a tie !!!
Shit is like watching a football game ending in a tie (49ers & Rams game)
Is a Clinton/Sanders tie even possible ???
And how is Hillary going to spin this shit ???


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The odds of this shit being a tie is like winning the lotto. WTF. Man Get this bitch off my TV. I'm about to donate $500 to Bernie. Fuck this shit.
 
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Trump needs to win New Hampshire. Not surprised Cruz is doing very well. I'm even more convinced Rubio will be the nominee at the end for the republicans.
The real winner tonight is RUBIO.

All that FAT GOP cash is headed his way.

Donors HATE Trump cuz blowhard doesn't want to play the game.
 
Check out your local NPR stations. They usually have online live streaming. For me it's wnyc.org. Not all shows are politcal but a fair amount are. The Diane Rehm show's Friday show is a really really good weekly rap up of political stuff (not slanted either way... well behaved guests from all sides and the middle).
I miss Air America...


Quick question fam...
What other (online) news shows do you watch besides CNN & MSNBC ???
I check out "The Young Turks" on youtube
But just wondering what other good alternatives are out there

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Damn son, I am seeing on the news they are calling it a tie !!!
Shit is like watching a football game ending in a tie (49ers & Rams game)
And how is Hillary going to spin this shit ???
Is a Clinton/Sanders tie even possible ???
Someone go find & ask Donovon McNabb


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Yeah this shit hurts her more than helps..

As for the GOP just off the strength a clown like Trump can come in 2nd place with zero ground game campaigning says a lot..
 
O'Malley got 8 delegates, since he got less than 15% of the vote, don't his delegates go elsewhere. Any chance of them going to Bernie?
 
Didn't help; but also though, Jeb has absolutely no fire. He seems like he wants to be President just because "dad and big bro did it, so I may as well carry on the tradition".
You sound like you are repeating everything the media wants you to think. Of course Bush wants to be president, he is just out of his league this election mostly because Trump neutered him from early on.
 
Yeah this shit hurts her more than helps..

As for the GOP just off the strength a clown like Trump can come in 2nd place with zero ground game campaigning says a lot..

We'll see. I think she was starting to believe she was going to lose Iowa. Bernie's support skews very heavily white. He has a huge deficit with latinos and black voters.

He's got a couple weeks to make major inroads there. I heard his head of communications last night when asked how they will start to draw more black and latino voters and he said they will emphasize that he is a son of Polish immigrants to appeal to latinos and talk about jobs and healthcare to appeal to black voters. He comes from a lily white state. He has never, ever had to communicate with or court voters of color. I don't think he knows how to talk to black and latino voters that aren't super progressive.
 
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The real winner tonight is RUBIO.

All that FAT GOP cash is headed his way.

Donors HATE Trump cuz blowhard doesn't want to play the game.



Don't Let The Media And Marco Rubio Tell You He 'Won' By Finishing Third In Iowa
Third place is the second loser.
02/01/2016 11:05 pm ET | Updated 9 hours ago
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Psst! Ted! Ted! We beat Marco!


Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) finished third in the Iowa Republican caucuses on Monday. His campaign and much of the media will tell you that this means he was the real winner of the first-in-the-nation contest. Don't believe them.

College debater-turned-pro Ted Cruz, the Texas senator whom even other senators hate, won the caucuses. Famed racist and lying liar Donald Trump finished second. Rubio finished third.

The news runs on surprise. People click on stories that surprise them. Things that are expected to happen -- like Trump and Cruz fighting it out for first place in Iowa -- are less surprising. Politicians know this and take advantage of it. Politicos call this the "expectations game" -- setting expectations of your performance at a certain level so that you can do "better than expected" and be the focus of the headlines.

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The spin is already happening. "This is the moment they told us would never happen," Rubio said Monday night. "They told me we had no chance." His campaign manager, Alex Conant, struck a similar tune. "This is a big night for us," Conant said. "It's probably a three-person race leaving here. If you don't want Trump or Cruz to be the nominee, you better get on board with Marco Rubio."

Reporters know they're being spun, but they go with it anyway. "It'll annoy Rubio detractors that his expectations management game worked, he overperformed, and it’ll have an impact in his coverage," Commentary's Noah Rothman tweeted Friday. Experts expect the press to be played like a fiddle. "We can call this right now: Marco Rubio will be the flavor of the week," election law expert Rick Hasen tweetedMonday.

The press doesn't have to -- and shouldn't -- take the bait.

The real story here is that more than half of Republican primary voters in Iowa opted for Trump -- a blowhard billionaire who has embraced open racism and is tearing the GOP apart -- and Cruz, the most loathed man in Washington. Nearly 10 percent of them voted for Ben Carson, a neurosurgeon who has never held federal political office.

The pro-Rubio narrative will be that, as the "establishment" candidate who did best in Iowa, he is well-positioned to gather the full strength of the Republican establishment behind him. But Monday night's results showed just how weak that establishment is: With 99 percent of the results in, Cruz, Trump and Carson, the candidates most often described as anti-establishment, took a combined 61 percent of the vote. Everyone else combined for 39 percent.

The results also showed the weakness of "establishment" as a label. While it does describe candidates' closeness to party elites, it doesn't tell voters much about their policy positions. Trump says racist things. But like Trump, Rubio holds several positions that are well outside the mainstream of American political opinion. He believes, for example, that women who are raped and become pregnant should have to carry the pregnancy to term. Only a quarter of Americans agree with him. There's more:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Responsible establishment candidate Marco Rubio wants a $4 trillion tax cut, a war with Iran, a balanced budget, and to shut down mosques.</p>&mdash; Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) <a href="">February 1, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Rubio could very well be the Republican nominee. He will likely be able to sign up more major donors and score a few endorsements by citing his Iowa results. And he'll have at least one fewer opponent to worry about: Mike Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas, suspended his campaign Monday night. But Rubio's performance in Iowa doesn't mean he won anything. It just means he still has a chance.
 
We'll see. I think she was starting to believe she was going to lose Iowa. Bernie's support skews very heavily white. He has a huge deficit with latinos and black voters.

He's got a couple weeks to make major inroads there. I heard his head of communications last night when asked how they will start to draw more black and latino voters and he said they will emphasize that he is a son of Polish immigrants to appeal to latinos and talk about jobs and healthcare to appeal to black voters. He comes from a lily white state. He has never, ever had to communicate with or court voters of color. I don't think he knows how to talk to black and latino voters that aren't super progressive.

How to talk to black people? What do you suggest? Jive? ....ebonics? You don't even realize that they've put that white wash on you...smh
 
I laugh every time i see Chris Christies numbers.He kept getting hyped up and asked by the media to run,and he kept denying
he was running and he was focused on NJ.Dude got so into running for prez he didnt even want to return to NJ during the blizzard.
 
I laugh every time i see Chris Christies numbers.He kept getting hyped up and asked by the media to run,and he kept denying
he was running and he was focused on NJ.Dude got so into running for prez he didnt even want to return to NJ during the blizzard.
When you've been governor, especially of a major state, you tend to get that bug of higher offices. His wife works on Wall Street, he was picked by Dubya.

He had two great things going for him. No one believed trump would run. We all figured he was close to getting the story back from Hawaii about Obama. When trump went unto his anti everything rants, there was no room left for a northeast windbag. Christie had his lunch ate. First time that has ever happened to him.
 
Maybe the Sanders campaign can find this woman....

After I made my post, I was stuck on YouTube watching the movie.

I picked the wrong time to be scheduled for work.

Can we admit that Jay Mohrs Mafia is a classic?

What's your name?
Diane.
I named him after his mother.
 
He had two great things going for him. No one believed trump would run. We all figured he was close to getting the story back from Hawaii about Obama. When trump went unto his anti everything rants, there was no room left for a northeast windbag. Christie had his lunch ate. First time that has ever happened to him.
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Check out your local NPR stations. They usually have online live streaming. For me it's wnyc.org. Not all shows are politcal but a fair amount are. The Diane Rehm show's Friday show is a really really good weekly rap up of political stuff (not slanted either way... well behaved guests from all sides and the middle).
I miss Air America...


Thanks for the info

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Oh, so I can't be a halfway intelligent person who listens, watches, reads, and independently comes up with his own opinions? Is that what you think?
I've listened to Bush a lot, and he sounds like he really doesn't want it. If you don't agree, cool, but please don't think that I'm a parrot, regurgitating a reporter.
Yes, Trump neutered him, and if he had any real fire in him, he'd come back hard, but he's not coming back hard. Kasich and Christy (and I hate his guts) sound like they have more fire than he does. Bush figured early on that he'd be the front runner and I don't think he ever thought it would end up like this. Dude is like Rousey 3 minutes into that fight with Holm when she knew she was getting her ass kicked, but didn't have anything to come back with.


You sound like you are repeating everything the media wants you to think. Of course Bush wants to be president, he is just out of his league this election mostly because Trump neutered him from early on.
 
If he had actually done a good job in NJ, he'd at least have some ammunition from that. Still wouldn't be able to out trump trump, but if he ever becomes enough of a threat to the top 3 guys, they'll be able to pick him apart with his own record as gov. ...but yeah, he figured he'd be the loudmouth tough acting (and I stress "acting", because he's a fuckin punk) guy out there.
I really hope he lasts until the NJ primary though, and then I hope he actually loses the state that he currently governs! That will make my year. Probably won't make it that far though because I think we're in June.


When you've been governor, especially of a major state, you tend to get that bug of higher offices. His wife works on Wall Street, he was picked by Dubya.

He had two great things going for him. No one believed trump would run. We all figured he was close to getting the story back from Hawaii about Obama. When trump went unto his anti everything rants, there was no room left for a northeast windbag. Christie had his lunch ate. First time that has ever happened to him.
 
How to talk to black people? What do you suggest? Jive? ....ebonics? You don't even realize that they've put that white wash on you...smh

So if someone said that they are going to address the problems of the black community, and they don't mention the criminal justice system, institutional racism, crime in our neighborhoods, poor schools in our neighborhoods, police brutality, red-lining for loans, or any of those things, but they say, let's just talk about jobs and healthcare, that's pretty much exactly what republicans say to black people about our issues.

Some of the same people that have been killing Obama for not doing anything for black people now willing to give Bernie Sanders a pass for not mentioning anything but iobs and healthcare??? Obama been killed on this board for years and now Bernie gets a pass for tailoring a message primarily to white liberals.

Ok.
 
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I wonder if Trump can hang on to his leads in NH and SC

To be fair, Iowa's always been a bit different in the GOP primaries because it skews heavily to the evangelical vote
If he loses NH it will be one of the biggest flameouts in political history.:lol:
 
Ted Cruz ADMITS his staff spread 'shameless' whisper campaign that Ben Carson was quitting presidential contest just before Iowa caucus voting began – but blames CNN for starting the rumor
  • Dr. Carson finished in fourth place in the Iowa caucus well behind Ted Cruz
  • But his team accused Ted Cruz's campaign of sabotaging his efforts with a whisper campaign saying he was dropping out of the race
  • Cruz apologized but blamed CNN for starting the rumor; Carson accepted the apology
  • If the ploy caused Cruz to gain just 4 votes in each Republican precinct, it was the margin of his victory over second-place Donald Trump
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ks-claiming-told-supporters-dropping-out.html



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