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Shit happens... here are some clips of King James looking very 'James Harden-ish' his damn self! :lol:

LeBron doesn't bother to close down a three-point shooter against the Lakers:


LeBron's guy runs right past him for an open layup against the Raptors:


LeBron thinks about giving some help defense, but doesn't bother:


LeBron falls down:


LeBron stands there, lets Raptors player rumble right down the lane:


LeBron guards no one:


LeBron runs away:






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LeBron James doesn’t help on defense, blames Tristan Thompson (Video)



Though LeBron is pretty clearly at fault on this play, that didn’t stop him from yelling at Thompson in a lengthy on-court spat during the ensuing timeout:
 
As usual, you speak the truth big guy! Basketball commonsense 101!! :yes:

Anybody who has played the game knows how difficult it is to lock in on an all-world offensive player an entire game, especially if that player is hot. Those videos you posted of Bron are examples of lack of effort, but when Bron was on the Heat, he locked in for the most part.

So I think the "exposures" from Leonard has to do more with off ball movement, which is really difficult to consistently defend when the other team know there is no rim protection.
 
Anybody who has played the game knows how difficult it is to lock in on an all-world offensive player an entire game, especially if that player is hot. Those videos you posted of Bron are examples of lack of effort, but when Bron was on the Heat, he locked in for the most part.

So I think the "exposures" from Leonard has to do more with off ball movement, which is really difficult to consistently defend when the other team know there is no rim protection.

Basically. That's just common sense basketball understanding. Funny how, when Dude struggles against Leonard, crickets, but he has a decent game and all of a sudden Leonard is overrated. Throughout his career, I guarantee you there are more games when LeBron struggled or was contained as opposed to decent games like last night, but hey, this is BGOL... :D

Great posts though my Dude, love it when you make sense :cheers:
 
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/12/leb...ensive-responsibility-cavaliers-celtics-video

LeBron James literally runs away from his defensive responsibility

LeBron. LeBron? Hey man. I know, I can’t believe the Celtics are the best team in the East right now either. But hey, you’ve gotta keep your head in the game. You’ve gotta rotate to the corner. I said you’ve gotta rotate to the CORNER. You don’t see Jonas Jerebko over there? He’s wide open. HE’S WIDE OPEN. You gotta check him up man.



LeBron. LEBRON! WHERE ARE YOU GOING? LEBRON, COME BACK. LEBRONNNNN!

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Fucking Pathetic :smh:
 
He does play him probably the best, but it's all about what Bron lets you do.

Lebron let defenders get their thoughts with the slowed down, Iso, coach killing approach...

Movement, aggression, confidence & pressure makes it difficult to cover anyone even the less skilled player would get open...

There were many time Leonard got beat on D in the GS game, but there is on thing no can say is that he didn't try. The back door play when he was guarding klay and the and one shot was all great offense. The shimmy from Steph was off ball movement that led up to the shake. The day Leonard stops showing effort is when I will criticize him or any other player on their ability to play defense.

Ball movement and off ball movement destroys any defenses. Look at GS now and the 2014 Spurs. Ball movement was key and still is.

Then again I sympathize because my game reflects to how Leonard plays. I was usually assigned the task to guard the best offensive players and it was hell a lot of nights. All I could do was play hard with effort and discipline while trying to score.
 
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Those who have said defense also consists of team defense as well are spot on. You've never seen LeBron make it difficult for Paul George, Melo, Stephen or even Leonard to score. I recall Paul Pierce giving him that work With LeBron you seem to always hear "look at the shootout these two are putting on". You don't hear LeBron held Melo to 5 for 20, or he held George to 3 for 15 shooting.
 
Funny
Kawhi Leonard locks down LeBron, 8 pts/7 TOs last 3 qtrs - 2014 Finals Game 3


I didn't see Leonard locking down LeBron, what I see is the Spurs collapsing hard on James with two or sometimes three players then in the 2nd half the Heat attempted to take advantage of their over commitment by making James more of a facilitator.. If Leonard is so much of a lock down one on one defender there is no way the Spurs would run a zone defense, because this is something that weaker one on one teams play..
 
Somebody said LeBron is the first Superstar to have two Dudes get Finals MVP specifically for locking him down defensively... :dunno:
Don't get it twisted and distorted, James had more rebounds, assist and points than anyone else in the finals, shit he damn near broke the scoring record yet he was the one locked down..:rolleyes: I swear, white people logic is funny sometimes..
 
Don't get it twisted and distorted, James had more rebounds, assist and points than anyone else in the finals, shit he damn near broke the scoring record yet he was the one locked down..:rolleyes: I swear, white people logic is funny sometimes..
There you go with that bullshit color reference again. Its amazing just how and fixated on white people you guys are. It really shows a lot of mental weakness even though you think it makes you spums intelligent. Those fools literally control your minds and you don't even realize it... :smh:
 
Don't get it twisted and distorted, James had more rebounds, assist and points than anyone else in the finals, shit he damn near broke the scoring record yet he was the one locked down..:rolleyes: I swear, white people logic is funny sometimes..


Man don't even bother
 
Man don't even bother
Bruh, I won't even wast my time, I been peeped It is what it is game a long time ago... He is nothing more than a contrarian troll, flip flopping just for effect... One year he hates LeBron, the next he's his favorite player, next year he hates him again...
I just come to realize that he looks at getting under people skin the way we look at bad chicks with fat asses...
 
Bruh, I won't even wast my time, I been peeped It is what it is game a long time ago... He is nothing more than a contrarian troll, flip flopping just for effect... One year he hates LeBron, the next he's his favorite player, next year he hates him again...
I just come to realize that he looks at getting under people skin the way we look at bad chicks with fat asses...

He's a master dick hopper. From dick to dick year to year. Whoever wins he jocks. Only player he consistently stayed loyal too was Kobe. He still gets tender if you diss him and is insecure bout Bron overshadowing him this decade. Him and Shady. :lol:

Kawhi has never shut Bron down. Brons best Finals performance "the headband game" came with Kawhi guarding him. Bron always gets off on him. Even their first matchup this year Bron dropped 20.

And to dude who said who has Bron guarded? Lmao. Post Paul Pierces statline the game Bron did 45 15 and 5 on him. Bron shut down Parker in the last Finals game of 2013, has guarded and shut down Garnett. Yall buggin. Dude was DPOY runner up 3 years in a row for a reason.
 
Bruh, I won't even wast my time, I been peeped It is what it is game a long time ago... He is nothing more than a contrarian troll, flip flopping just for effect... One year he hates LeBron, the next he's his favorite player, next year he hates him again...
I just come to realize that he looks at getting under people skin the way we look at bad chicks with fat asses...
The normal BGOL nonsense too... Now I'm a troll?! Cool... News flash, just because a player is great doesn't mean they are above criticism. You Dude are hilarious throwing the cliches around saying people say shit for effect when ultimately thats what y'all do. If someone disagrees with you they either are a troll, a CAC or don't know the sport?! Do you little fella, Unfortunately as great as LeBron is, he's not the perfect basketball player, He is not above having his weaknesses pointed out, as much as you guys cop pleas for his deficiencies, and contrary to popular belief, the shit on the vids I posted aren't fictitious they happened.

Also, do me a favor and quote a post where I said I hate him or he wasn't a great player. I'll wait :popcorn:

If you have an issue with me because I don't swallow your favorite players nuts and can be objective about things cool, don't respond to my posts.... But don't play yourself with those weak ass labels when a person doesn't agree with your views... I know it must be hard for you to accept this fact but you aren't the foremost authority on all topics lil fella... That is a pathetic trait to have actually, but that's all y'all, have at it..
 
He's a master dick hopper. From dick to dick year to year. Whoever wins he jocks. Only player he consistently stayed loyal too was Kobe. He still gets tender if you diss him and is insecure bout Bron overshadowing him this decade. Him and Shady. :lol:

Kawhi has never shut Bron down. Brons best Finals performance "the headband game" came with Kawhi guarding him. Bron always gets off on him. Even their first matchup this year Bron dropped 20.

And to dude who said who has Bron guarded? Lmao. Post Paul Pierces statline the game Bron did 45 15 and 5 on him. Bron shut down Parker in the last Finals game of 2013, has guarded and shut down Garnett. Yall buggin. Dude was DPOY runner up 3 years in a row for a reason.

Wow, more Dick references?! Got anything more creative in 2016 Dude... This shit after 3 years is :boring:
 
The normal BGOL nonsense too... Now I'm a troll?! Cool... News flash, just because a player is great doesn't mean they are above criticism. You Dude are hilarious throwing the cliches around saying people say shit for effect when ultimately thats what y'all do. If someone disagrees with you they either are a troll, a CAC or don't know the sport?! Do you little fella, Unfortunately as great as LeBron is, he's not the perfect basketball player, He is not above having his weaknesses pointed out, as much as you guys cop pleas for his deficiencies, and contrary to popular belief, the shit on the vids I posted aren't fictitious they happened.
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Also, do me a favor and quote a post where I said I hate him or he wasn't a great player. I'll wait

If you have an issue with me because I don't swallow your favorite players nuts and can be objective about things cool, don't respond to my posts.... But don't play yourself with those weak ass labels when a person doesn't agree with your views... I know it must be hard for you to accept this fact but you aren't the foremost authority on all topics lil fella... That is a pathetic trait to have actually, but that's all y'all, have at it..
I wont quite call you a troll but to your certainly a lamper, a person who likes to stir shit up for the sake of argument... Hey I get it, this is your stick, but I understand what you are about, and just leave it at that and keep it moving ...
 
I wont quite call you a troll but to your certainly a lamper, a person who likes to stir shit up for the sake of argument... Hey I get it, this is your stick, but I understand what you are about, and just leave it at that and keep it moving ...
So again, I don't see things sometimes the way others do on the board and because of that, I have a shtick and a label? I voice my viewpoint and I want to stir things up? Maybe I just dont always see things the way you do bruh... If a debate can't be had without labels, why the hell are we on a public forum Bruh? My bad, I guess I misinterpreted the 'rules'... We good, you are intitled to your opinion :cheers:
 
LISTEN UP NBA FANS.

Let me discuss with you something that makes no sense whatsoever.

When Kawhi Leonard "outplays" LeBron or somewhat "slows him down", he's labeled "A LeBron Stopper", but when LeBron outplays Kawhi nothing is said, no one gives him credit for playing him well offensively and especially, defensively.

In their earlier meeting in San Antonio, LeBron had 22 Points on 9/17 (53%) from the field only attempting 4 free throws in 37 minutes. Kawhi Leonard had 20 Points on 6/14 from the field (42%), attempting 6 free throws having 4 turnovers and playing 39 minutes. The Cavs were +9 with James on the floor and the Spurs were -5 with Kawhi on the floor.

In last nights game, LeBron went for 29 Points on 10/17 Shooting (59%), 2 Steals and 2 Blocks in 34 Minutes while Kawhi had 24 Points on 7/15 Shooting (46%), no steals, no blocks and 2 turnovers playing 35 minutes. The Cavs were +14 with LeBron on the floor while the Spurs were -14 with Kawhi on the floor.

This brings me to the question of why credit is given in one situation and not another. Why is LeBron not praised for his defense or outplaying Kawhi? Is it because he's LeBron James and this is what we expect? Or is it because we conveniently pick and choose how we want to label and publicize things?

How is it that LeBron can hold him to a combined 13/29 (44%) shooting and not be praised for his defense but if Kawhi causes LeBron to have a somewhat inefficient night he's labeled as a "LeBron Stopper".

This isn't even mentioning that LeBron shot 53% from the Field and 51% from 3 Point Range on Kawhi in a Finals series whilst averaging 28 but because they lost as TEAM, it's ignored and not given credit.

Why is it as NBA Fans, people choose to ignore one thing and open up their eyes for another.

It goes to show how the media can paint a picture and even create a consensus quite easily and NBA fans will follow and even believe it.

Really makes you wonder.

DPeters
 
Watching Aldridge lately, I'm glad we didn't get him. I've never been a big fan of his game. He's too finesse.
 
Watching Aldridge lately, I'm glad we didn't get him. I've never been a big fan of his game. He's too finesse.

Yeah, I agree. Dude has no strength or real toughness. All he really do is shoot jumpers and fadeaways. He not a great rebounder either. I know Pop will stick with his guns for the rest of the season, but I don't think he will be able to use Aldridge like he wants to. He is just not a back to the basket type player.
 
Man how y'all feeling about the Spurs after these last two weeks...

I think this has to do more with LA than anything. It's clear that the Spurs big 3 are shells of themselves, so the torch has been passed to Leonard and LA. Many people has stated in this thread that their biggest issues would be dynamic guards, which we clearly see is a huge problem against elite teams. The Spurs do not have a single player they can supplement for having small guards. The LA signing basically killed that chance (this year). Pop still trust Manu way too much and Parker is only as good as he is scoring against elite PGs. If he is not getting buckets, then he becomes really ineffective.

Now LA is the one I feel like that is holding the Spurs potential back. Pop was hoping that he would fit right in, but what Pop wasn't counting on was that this kat really isn't a Spurs player. Pop wants to use LA like he did Duncan and Robinson. And for good reason. LA is 7 foot, but he is too finesse. Leonard is the best post player on the team right now. What's happening is that LA wants to shoot jumpers, but he has played majority of his career in Portland being a high volume shooter. Now he is with the Spurs, the possessions are less and Pop is banking on him in being efficient with that jumper or control the paint against smaller players. Since LA really isn't a dominate post player like I thought (and others) he was, we are seeing him look fairly regular and a non-factor.

I said this before, but Pop is giving this type of style it's final go. The old NBA is on its way out. Big men are not like they use to be (except this kid Towns, that boys future is looking extremely promising). The Spurs will be in the playoffs and Pop is going to use whatever trick he has in the book. He is going to ride or die with Parker and Manu and the Spurs are going to go as they go. Unless LA and Leonard, specifically LA, can consistently score and control games, I don't see them getting over the hump of GS and even OKC. They're a very good team, but their lack of guard play is going to be their demise.
 
I didn't mention anything about Duncan because he's 40. He is going to do what he do when he can. I don't think anyone would be surprised if he goes for 25 and 10 or 6 and 2.

Danny Green has been the most disappointing Spur this year by far. He needs to find his shot because he is hindering their low post game the Spurs wants to play. Mills is best served with the Spurs squad from 2014 when they played like GS is now. They fuck up not signing Marco this summer. I like Simmons, but he is still raw in talent. Definitely the second best athletic player on the Spurs. Diaw is what he is.

Defensively, they need Duncan. He is their bail out guy. LA isn't what Duncan is in the paint.
 
Man how y'all feeling about the Spurs after these last two weeks...
They are exactly who we thought they are... Still the Spurs, a hit or miss team, I would not buy too much into regular season games with Pap as coach, he likes to play a lot of mind games... But one thing for certain this team will only go as far as their guards can carry them and with Parker and Manu being up their in age, its kind of iffy, to say the least..
 
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