R. Kelly answering questions LIVE... not going well at all

[DV8ed]

Again, you are just making shit up. You are arguing against a position that was never taken in the first place.

Your words, taken from your previous post:

"Why are we so critical of some entertainers and not others? Why does this selective application impact African American male artists more than their white counterparts? No one wants to address that. Niggas just wanna be mad at R Kelly cause he's an easy target. Marvin Gaye did the exact same shit, Elvis and countless others and you won't hear a peep about not listening to their music."

 

[Big Tex]

Classic strawman argument. Strawman= Misrepresenting someone's opinion to make it easier to attack. This is a favorite of R Kelly haters. R Kelly is a pedo, R Kelly makes music, if you like R Kelly's music you like Child molestation. That's how ya'll operate. 100% illogical. No one in this thread has said they approve of child molestation. Your are debating a point that was never advanced.

What is troubling is the apparent selective application of the morality code when it comes to entertainers. Why are we so critical of some entertainers and not others? Why does this selective application impact African American male artists more than their white counterparts? No one wants to address that. Niggas just wanna be mad at R Kelly cause he's an easy target. Marvin Gaye did the exact same shit, Elvis and countless others and you won't hear a peep about not listening to their music.

In this thread, people said fuck R Kelly, he's a child molester.

Your consistent response has been to point out that other people molest kids.

No one in the thread said, we are only upset about one pedophile.

Let me help you. Fuck all pedophiles. Including R Kelly. I won't defend a single one.

Now for your part, you have made it clear that child molestation is not something that really bothers you. Your basic point is "so what? Lots's of people do it"

This has nothing to do with likin his music or not. I love Michael Jackson's music. Always have.

Mike was a pedophile, and you will never, ever, ever find me in a thread defending his pedophilia.

Ever.

If you had said "Well, Kells is a pedo but I still like his music.." That would be one thing.

You didn't.

You have basically shrugged and pointed out that lots of people do it. That inherently suggeats pedophilia as not a huge deal to you.

But that's for you and your conscience.

 

[peterlongshort]

In this thread, people said fuck R Kelly, he's a child molester.

Your consistent response has been to point out that other people molest kids.

No one in the thread said, we are only upset about one pedophile.

Let me help you. Fuck all pedophiles. Including R Kelly. I won't defend a single one.

Now for your part, you have made it clear that child molestation is not something that really bothers you. Your basic point is "so what? Lots's of people do it"

This has nothing to do with likin his music or not. I love Michael Jackson's music. Always have.

Mike was a pedophile, and you will never, ever, ever find me in a thread defending his pedophilia.

Ever.

If you had said "Well, Kells is a pedo but I still like his music.." That would be one thing.

You didn't.

You have basically shrugged and pointed out that lots of people do it. That inherently suggeats pedophilia as not a huge deal to you.

But that's for you and your conscience.

Which brings me back to my original point about Robert Downey Jr. Why is he allowed to work and make millions without suffering the consequences of his immorality? The easy answer is racism. But let's go one step further, Marvin Gaye did the same exact, if not worse, shit than R Kelly, but his music is played at sporting events and in the White House without controversy. So you can't chalk that up to racism cause Marvin is black.

So again, in the grand universe of artist behaving badly, why is R Kelly singled out and not Rob Lowe, Woody Allen, and good old boy Elvis? Why do we so easily and readily consume this narrative that the black man is the face of pedophilia, when the exact opposite is true? Micheal Jackson wasn't convicted of not one charge yet he's the poster boy for child molestation. R Kelly is just a scapegoat for a much larger narrative.

 

[Big Tex]

Which brings me back to my original point about Robert Downey Jr. Why is he allowed to work and make millions without suffering the consequences of his immorality? The easy answer is racism. But let's go one step further, Marvin Gaye did the same exact, if not worse, shit than R Kelly, but his music is played at sporting events and in the White House without controversy. So you can't chalk that up to racism cause Marvin is black.

So again, in the grand universe of artist behaving badly, why is R Kelly singled out and not Rob Lowe, Woody Allen, and good old boy Elvis? Why do we so easily and readily consume this narrative that the black man is the face of pedophilia, when the exact opposite is true? Micheal Jackson wasn't convicted of not one charge yet he's the poster boy for child molestation. R Kelly is just a scapegoat for a much larger narrative.

No one said R Kelly couldn't work. This thread is about him being asked tough questions in an interview.

 

[tallblacknyc]

All I knew if he got a hit on that album everybody gonna forget this shit happened just like all the other times....

making love like a marching band mite be his next hit on that albulm

 

[ballscout1]

making love like a marching band

is that the real song title ? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

y'all should have known he has issues based on his song titles.

half on a baby

and his lyrics

1. “I like the crotch on you.”
SONG/ALBUM: “I Like the Crotch on You” – 12 Play

2. “Put on some clothes and lets go to the IHOP, baby/ No matter how good the food may taste/ I'm still thinking about your body baby, yes I am.”
SONG/ALBUM: “Etcetera” — R

We all know IHOP food ain't good unless you lifted

3. “Then she cries out/'Oh my goodness, I'm about to climax'/And I said, 'Cool climax/Just let go of my leg.'”
SONG: “Trapped in the Closet (Chapter Four)

4. "It's like a jungle atmosphere/ And we're two monkeys, baby."
SONG/ALBUM: “The Zoo” — Double Up
5. “Girl, push menu and check out the features/ Just let me put this adaptor in you/ It will keep you charged up.”
SONG/ALBUM: “Remote Control” — TP. 3 Reloaded
6. “Tonight you are my master/And I will be your slave/Bury myself all in you/As if you were my grave.”
SONG/ALBUM: “Whole Lotta Kisses” — Unititled


Cat will sing any damn thing and mofokrs buy it..

 

[hussla's paradice]

Kellz is a molester, who makes good music.

 

[woodchuck]

 

[tallblacknyc]

is that the real song title ? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

y'all should have known he has issues based on his song titles.

half on a baby

and his lyrics

1. “I like the crotch on you.”
SONG/ALBUM: “I Like the Crotch on You” – 12 Play

2. “Put on some clothes and lets go to the IHOP, baby/ No matter how good the food may taste/ I'm still thinking about your body baby, yes I am.”
SONG/ALBUM: “Etcetera” — R

We all know IHOP food ain't good unless you lifted

3. “Then she cries out/'Oh my goodness, I'm about to climax'/And I said, 'Cool climax/Just let go of my leg.'”
SONG: “Trapped in the Closet (Chapter Four)

4. "It's like a jungle atmosphere/ And we're two monkeys, baby."
SONG/ALBUM: “The Zoo” — Double Up
5. “Girl, push menu and check out the features/ Just let me put this adaptor in you/ It will keep you charged up.”
SONG/ALBUM: “Remote Control” — TP. 3 Reloaded
6. “Tonight you are my master/And I will be your slave/Bury myself all in you/As if you were my grave.”
SONG/ALBUM: “Whole Lotta Kisses” — Unititled


Cat will sing any damn thing and mofokrs buy it..

 

[woodchuck]

You know what's funny? When this shit first broke, the most of the dudes were ripping him, and a lot of females were ripping the girl.

 

[tallblacknyc]

You know what's funny? When this shit first broke, the most of the dudes were ripping him, and a lot of females were ripping the ripping the girl.

kells was 1 of them celebs that proved how much females can be full of shit..let any dude be called a pedo and they would shit on his life even wish him death..this nig came out with the pedo tapes and broads was giving him props cause he eat ass and was happy to see the nig nude..putting the blinders on that he was doin pedo acts... in fact he was 1 of the dudes that showed how big this celeb worshipping had gotten in the 2000's.. cause some people were on some it look like she wasn't a stranger to sex and maybe he didn't kno her real age..mad living in denial shit..kellz was 1 of the founders of the 2000 dickriders community explosion

 

[woodchuck]

kells was 1 of them celebs that proved how much females can be full of shit..let any dude be called a pedo and they would shit on his life even wish him death..this nig came out with the pedo tapes and broads was giving him props cause he eat ass and was happy to see the nig nude..putting the blinders on that he was doin pedo acts

Man, I heard broads saying shit like, "She knew what she was doing! That lil' bitch ain't an angel! He shouldn't lose his career over that lil' ho!"

 

[tallblacknyc]

Man, I heard broads saying shit like, "She knew what she was doing! That lil' bitch ain't an angel! He shouldn't lose his career over that lil' ho!"

yeah the capes were flapping for the pedo kells tape

 

[Temujin]

Which brings me back to my original point about Robert Downey Jr. Why is he allowed to work and make millions without suffering the consequences of his immorality? The easy answer is racism. But let's go one step further, Marvin Gaye did the same exact, if not worse, shit than R Kelly, but his music is played at sporting events and in the White House without controversy. So you can't chalk that up to racism cause Marvin is black.

So again, in the grand universe of artist behaving badly, why is R Kelly singled out and not Rob Lowe, Woody Allen, and good old boy Elvis? Why do we so easily and readily consume this narrative that the black man is the face of pedophilia, when the exact opposite is true? Micheal Jackson wasn't convicted of not one charge yet he's the poster boy for child molestation. R Kelly is just a scapegoat for a much larger narrative.

R. Kelly is singled out because he is relevant in our time and his crimes were on video tape. No one fed me a narrative there is video evidence of his crimes. There is never a context or excuse or justification for pedophilia or any of the negative press that comes from it. He deserves everything he is getting. Are you suggesting we should go light on Kells or give him a pass because elvis did it?

 

[rNubb]

It a lot of self-confessed kiddie porn
watchers in these Rkelly threads.

They were so disgusted in the allegations that they had to see Rkelly pissing in some girls mouth with their own eyes.

They searched that shit out and watched that nasty shit.

Freaks.

 

[Gods_Debris]

Niggas don't be poppin that righteous shit when they goin to see the new Avengers movie are they?

What underage chicks did he get caught with? I don't give a fuck about another grown person's drug use as long as they aren't endangering the lives of others. That's that religious/conservative moral policing bullshit.

 

[woodchuck]

What underage chicks did he get caught with? I don't give a fuck about another grown person's drug use as long as they aren't endangering the lives of others. That's that religious/conservative moral policing bullshit.

He got caught with an underage chick in an Atlanta hotel back in the day.

 

[tallblacknyc]

since we clowning pedo's..make sure ya don't support that new x-men that's comin out cause pedo bryan singer made it..even if ur kids beg to see it u tell them wait till a clear copy hits the net

 

[ballscout1]

He got caught with an underage chick in an Atlanta hotel back in the day.

every first year law student is taught not to ask questions they don't know the answer tooo..

since we clowning pedo's..make sure ya don't support that new x-men that's comin out cause pedo bryan singer made it..even if ur kids beg to see it u tell them wait till a clear copy hits the net

Man these same cats will be there opening night in costume,

 

[Gods_Debris]

He got caught with an underage chick in an Atlanta hotel back in the day.

Fuck him then but why can't I find that shit? Link?

 

[Gods_Debris]

every first year law student is taught not to ask questions they don't know the answer tooo..

That explains why so many lawyers are pompous arrogant dumbasses. Humility is nothing to be ashamed of. "Know-it-all" and "fool" are synonyms

 

[tallblacknyc]

every first year law student is taught not to ask questions they don't know the answer tooo..





Man these same cats will be there opening night in costume,

yeah i kno a few gonna turn a blind eye to that cac boy fucker pedo and be like but but the last two were good..uhh but my son really really wants to see this 1..uhhh it's nothing like the cinema experience

 

[Big Tex]

Once again, no one said R Kelly can't make music or that people shouldn't buy it.

They just said Kelly deserved that grilling. Just like every other pedophile deserves theirs.

Please point out where I said that people shouldn't buy his music?

I even pointed out that I like Mike's music, but don't support him being a pedophile.

Dudes in here caping for Kells pedophilia. Making this about other pedophiles, kells music, rascism, etc. everything except the fact the Kelly is a proven pedophile and trying to diminish the seriousness of that.

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

He got caught with an underage chick in an Atlanta hotel back in the day.

i thought that was Rob Lowe..?

 

[ballscout1]

okay time to put this thread down....

 

[Mr. Met]

You know what's funny? When this shit first broke, the most of the dudes were ripping him, and a lot of females were ripping the girl.

Sad but true.

 

[woodchuck]

i thought that was Rob Lowe..?

Yeah, you're right! I've always gotten them confused. That's probably why Gods_ Debris couldn't find a link.

 

[furlough]

 

[Mr. Met]

http://www.essence.com/2008/06/25/lisa-van-allen-speaks

 

[Artist Monk]

Oh well.

 

[peterlongshort]

No one said R Kelly couldn't work. This thread is about him being asked tough questions in an interview.

I think someone said they would not support R Kelly or his music.

R. Kelly is singled out because he is relevant in our time and his crimes were on video tape. No one fed me a narrative there is video evidence of his crimes. There is never a context or excuse or justification for pedophilia or any of the negative press that comes from it. He deserves everything he is getting. Are you suggesting we should go light on Kells or give him a pass because elvis did it?

I'm suggesting there is a certain level of hypocrisy in condemning one artist over the other just because it's the cool thing to do. Admit it, it's cool to hate on Kells. Shit, the lady that did the interview probably couldn't name one R Kelly song if you asked her, but she knew about that pedo shit. It's the cool thing to do, the low hanging fruit, the "look at me I stand against pedos" type of shit.

But again, are folks gonna boycott the next Spiderman movie because James Franco is in it? You do know he got caught trying to fuck a 16 year old right? Better yet, would an interviewer even fix her mouth to ask that shit? Nope, Nope, and Nope. That's to big a fish to fry.

Same thing with Marvin Gaye, a fuckin legend who got his own 15 year old niece pregnant with his first child. Anybody wanna take a stab at that boycott? Any takers? You don't need video evidence of that, he's walking around America somewhere.

But this horse is about dead and cats are making the same illogical arguments so I'll just chill and go back to my pedo anonymous meeting

 

[geechiedan]

Classic strawman argument. Strawman= Misrepresenting someone's opinion to make it easier to attack. This is a favorite of R Kelly haters. R Kelly is a pedo, R Kelly makes music, if you like R Kelly's music you like Child molestation. That's how ya'll operate. 100% illogical. No one in this thread has said they approve of child molestation. Your are debating a point that was never advanced.

What is troubling is the apparent selective application of the morality code when it comes to entertainers. Why are we so critical of some entertainers and not others? Why does this selective application impact African American male artists more than their white counterparts? No one wants to address that. Niggas just wanna be mad at R Kelly cause he's an easy target. Marvin Gaye did the exact same shit, Elvis and countless others and you won't hear a peep about not listening to their music.

Kelly is an easy target because HE VIDEOTAPED HIMSELF PISSING ON AND FUCKING A 13 YEAR OLD BLACK GIRL...

first why do celebrities get a pass period...I always thought that of all criminals CHILD MOLESTERS should be expelled from the community period. Here's an example..Some guy owns a convenience store in your neighborhood and he wasn't just accused of raping a kid but theres EVIDENCE..do you think the people in that neighborhood would STILL patronize his store?? yes or no?

second when a male can VIDEO TAPE HIMSELF pissing on a 13 year old black girl's face or publicly beat a black woman (dre)...and BOTH these motherfuckers can still have a career..then you can literally do ANYTHING to a black woman and have no fear of consequences as long as you keep producing good music or win championships or whatever it is people like.

 

[Lucky7s]

Why did we hear more about Kobe getting accused of rape by a chick with 3 strains of nut on her draws than Charlie Sheen fucking bitches with AIDS? You know damn well he was fucking these broads without telling them his status. Yet the media isn't interviewing every woman coming forward like they did Cosby. Even the whole hotel incident, they covered up that he was yelling calling the prostitute the n-word.

What hotel incident with Charlie Sheen? He called his own damned ex-wife a n-word on a recorded call...several times.

 

[badboyyawdie]

Context of white supremacy/ blah blah blah

 

[Flawless]

She invited him on the show to promote his album then switched it around. That was very unprofessional