***2015-16 NFL QBs Are Mediocre List (Michael Bennett Edition)***

[KingTaharqa]

In celebration of this year's NFL season kicking off tonight, I've posted stats for every QB in the league. Ive listed their # and name, what year they were drafted and what round, their regular season and playoff records, their TD totals, INT totals, passing yardage & completion percentage, scrambling totals, their QB rating, and any individual accolades they may have received. Black QBs are highlighted with ITALICS. QBs listed in UPPER CASE FONT have won a Super Bowl as a starter. Use this thread to keep a realistic perspective on where QBs stand statistically and NOT the talking heads who's job it is to promote them and make excuses for the sake of white supremacy.

[ARIZONA CARDINALS]
#3 Carson Palmer ('03 #1 Overall) [70-73; 0-2] 224 TDs 155 INTs 35,365 yards (62.6%): 7 rush TDs 400 rush yards (1.6 YPC) 86.3 QB rating {2x Pro Bowl}
#5 Drew Stanton ('07 4th Round) [7-5] 12 TDs 14 INTs 2,869 yards (55.3%): 2 rush TDs 229 rush yards (4.2 YPC) 71.8 QB rating
#9 Matt Barkley ('13 4th Round) [no starts] 0 TDs 4 INTs 300 yards (60%): -5 rush yards (-.4 YPC) 43.7 QB rating

[ATLANTA FALCONS]
#3 Matt Ryan ('08 1st Round) [66-44; 1-4] 181 TDs 91 INTs 28,166 yards (64%): 5 rush TDs 700 rush yards (2.8 YPC) 91.1 QB rating {3x Pro Bowl}
#12 Sean Renfree ('13 7th Round) ----------------------NO EXPERIENCE---------------------------------

[BALTIMORE RAVENS]
#5 JOE FLACCO ('08 1st Round) [72-40; 10-5] 148 TDs 90 INTs 25,531 yards (60.5%): 10 rush TDs 631 rush yards (2.4 YPC) 84.8 QB rating {1x SB Champ}
#8 Matt Schaub ('04 3rd Round) [46-44; 1-1] 130 TDs 86 INTs 24,311 yards (63.9%): 4 rush TDs 352 rush yards (1.9 YPC) 89.5 QB rating {2x Pro Bowl}

[BUFFALO BILLS]
#5 Tyrod Taylor ('11 6th Round) [no starts] 0 TDs 2 INTs 199 yards (54.3%): 1 rush TD 236 rush yards (5.0 YPC) 47.2 QB rating
#16 Matt Cassel ('05 7th Round) [33-38; 0-1] 96 TDs 70 INTs 15,727 yards (59%): 5 rush TDs 931 rush yards (3.8 YPC) 80.1 QB rating {1x Pro Bowl}
#3 EJ Manuel ('13 1st Round) [6-8] 16 TDs 12 INTs 2,810 yards (58.6%): 3 rush TDs 238 rush yards (3.4 YPC) 78.5 QB rating

[CAROLINA PANTHERS]
#1 Cam Newton ('11 #1 Overall) [30-31-1; 1-2] 82 TDs 54 INTs 14,426 yards (59.5%): 33 rush TDs 2,571 rush yards (5.5 YPC) 85.4 QB rating {2x Pro Bowl}
#3 Derek Anderson ('05 6th Round) [20-25] 58 TDs 55 INTs 9,907 yards (53.7%): 5 rush TDs 227 rush yards (2.5 YPC) 71.3 QB rating {1x Pro Bowl}
#14 Joe Webb ('10 6th Round) [1-1; 0-1] 3 TDs 5 INTs 853 yards (57.9%): 4 rush TDs 273 rush yards (6.7 YPC) 66.6 QB rating

[CHICAGO BEARS]
#6 Jay Cutler ('06 1st Round) [61-58; 1-1] 183 TDs 130 INTs 27,749 yards (61.7%): 8 rush TDs 1,425 rush yards (4.4 YPC) 85.2 QB rating {1x Pro Bowl}
#8 Jimmy Clausen ('10 2nd Round) [1-10] 5 TDs 10 INTs 1,781 yards (52.7%): 66 rush yards (2.5 YPC) 60.2 QB rating
#12 David Fales ('14 6th Round) -------------------------NO EXPERIENCE-------------------------------

[CINCINNATI BENGALS]
#14 Andy Dalton ('11 2nd Round) [40-23-1; 0-4] 99 TDs 66 INTs 14,758 yards (61.6%): 11 rush TDs 624 rush yards (3.0 YPC) 85.2 QB rating {2x Pro Bowl}
#5 AJ McCarron ('14 5th Round) --------------------------NO EXPERIENCE-------------------------------

[CLEVELAND BROWNS]
#2 Johnny Manziel ('14 1st Round) [0-2] 0 TDs 2 INTs 175 yards (51.4%): 1 rush TD 29 rush yards (3.2 YPC) 42.0 QB rating
#12 Josh McCown ('02 3rd Round) [17-32] 61 TDs 59 INTs 11,033 yards (58.8%): 7 rush TDs 833 rush yards (4.7 YPC) 76.1 QB rating
#9 Austin Davis ('12 Undrafted) [3-5] 12 TDs 9 INTs 2,001 yards (63.4%): 36 rush yards (2.3 YPC) 85.1 QB rating

[DALLAS COWBOYS]
#9 Tony Romo ('04 Undrafted) [75-48; 2-4] 242 TDs 110 INTs 33,270 yards (65.2%): 5 rush TDs 607 rush yards (2.6 YPC) 97.6 QB rating {4x Pro Bowl}
#3 Brandon Weeden ('12 1st Round) [5-16] 26 TDs 28 INTs 5,419 yards (56%): 154 rush yards (3.4 YPC) 72.5 QB rating

[DENVER BRONCOS]
#18 PEYTON MANNING ('98 #1 Overall) [179-77; 11-13] 530 TDs 234 INTs 69,691 yards (65.5%): 18 rush TDs 673 rush yards (1.6 YPC) 97.5 QB rating {14x Pro Bowl; 7x All Pro; 5x MVP; 1x SB Champ}
#17 Brock Osweiler ('12 2nd Round) [no starts] 1 TD 0 INTs 159 yards (56.7%): -11 rush yards (-.8 YPC) 82.5 QB rating
#13 Trevor Siemian ('15 7th Round) -----------------------NO EXPERIENCE-------------------------------

[DETROIT LIONS]
#9 Matthew Stafford ('09 #1 Overall) [35-42; 0-2] 131 TDs 85 INTs 21,714 yards (59.6%): 11 rush TDs 485 rush yards (3.0 YPC) 83.6 QB rating {1x Pro Bowl}
#8 Dan Orlovsky ('05 5th Round) [2-10] 14 TDs 12 INTs 2,931 yards (58.5%): 34 rush yards (2.6 YPC) 76.0 QB rating

[GREEN BAY PACKERS]
#12 AARON RODGERS ('05 1st Round) [70-33; 6-5] 226 TDs 57 INTs 28,578 yards (65.8%): 20 rush TDs 1,831 rush yards (4.9 YPC) 106.0 QB rating {4x Pro Bowl; 2x All Pro; 2x MVP; 1x SB Champ}
#16 Scott Tolzien ('11 Undrafted) [0-1-1] 1 TD 5 INTs 717 yards (61.1%): 1 rush TD 55 rush yards (11.0 YPC) 66.8 QB rating
#7 Brett Hundley ('15 5th Round) -------------------------NO EXPERIENCE------------------------------

[HOUSTON TEXANS]
#7 Brian Hoyer ('09 Undrafted) [10-7] 19 TDs 19 INTs 4,557 yards (56.5%): 1 rush TD 75 rush yards (1.4 YPC) 76.8 QB rating
#15 Ryan Mallett ('11 3rd Round) [1-1] 2 TDs 3 INTs 417 yards (53.2%): -11 rush yards (-.8 YPC) 61.0 QB rating

[INDIANAPOLIS COLTS]
#12 Andrew Luck ('12 #1 Overall) [33-15; 3-3] 86 TDs 43 INTs 12,957 yards (58.6%): 12 rush TDs 905 rush yards (4.8 YPC) 86.6 QB rating {3x Pro Bowl}
#8 Matt Hasselbeck ('98 6th Round) [80-72; 5-6] 203 TDs 148 INTs 34,948 yards (60.4%): 8 rush TDs 1,216 rush yards (3.5 YPC) 82.3 QB rating {3x Pro Bowl}

[JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS]
#5 Blake Bortles ('14 1st Round) [3-10] 11 TDs 17 INTs 2,908 yards (58.9%): 419 rush yards (7.5 YPC) 69.5 QB rating
#7 Chad Henne ('08 2nd Round) [18-35] 58 TDs 63 INTs 12,931 yards (59.3%): 3 rush TDs 362 rush yards (3.1 YPC) 75.5 QB rating

[KANSAS CITY CHIEFS]
#11 Alex Smith ('05 #1 Overall) [57-47-1; 1-1] 122 TDs 76 INTs 20,858 yards (60.4%): 6 rush TDs 1,446 rush yards (4.3 YPC) 82.8 QB rating {1x Pro Bowl}
#10 Chase Daniel ('10 Undrafted) [1-1] 1 TD 1 INT 460 yards (64.0%): 97 rush yards (3.7 YPC) 79.9 QB rating
#7 Aaron Murray ('14 5th Round) ------------------------NO EXPERIENCE--------------------------------

[MIAMI DOLPHINS]
#17 Ryan Tannehill ('12 1st Round) [23-25] 63 TDs 42 INTs 11,252 yards (61.9%): 4 rush TDs 760 rush yards (5.2 YPC) 84.0 QB rating
#8 Matt Moore ('06 Undrafted) [11-12] 33 TDs 28 INTs 5,342 yards (58.9%): 2 rush TDs 87 rush yards (1.5 YPC) 79.2 QB rating
#6 Logan Thomas ('14 4th Round) [no starts] 1 TD 0 INT 81 yards (11.1%) 101.6 QB rating

[MINNESOTA VIKINGS]
#5 Teddy Bridgewater ('14 1st Round) [6-6] 14 TDs 12 INTs 2,919 yards (64.4%): 1 rush TD 209 rush yards (4.4 YPC) 85.2 QB rating
#13 Shaun Hill ('05 Undrafted) [16-18] 49 TDs 30 INTs 8,038 yards (62.2%): 4 rush TDs 326 rush yards (4.0 YPC) 85.5 QB rating
#6 Taylor Heinicke ('15 Undrafted) ---------------------NO EXPERIENCE---------------------------------

[NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS]
#12 TOM BRADY ('00 6th Round) [160-47; 21-8] 392 TDs 143 INTs 53,258 yards (63.5%): 14 rush TDs 823 rush yards (1.8 YPC) 95.9 QB rating {10x Pro Bowl; 2x All Pro; 2x MVP; 4x SB Champ}
#10 Jimmy Garoppolo ('14 2nd Round) [no starts] 1 TD 0 INT 182 yards (70.4%) 101.2 QB rating

[NEW ORLEANS SAINTS]
#9 DREW BREES ('01 2nd Round) [117-84; 6-5] 396 TDs 194 INTs 56,033 yards (66.2%): 13 rush TDs 690 rush yards (1.9 YPC) 95.4 QB rating {9x Pro Bowl; 1x All Pro; 1x SB Champ)
#7 Luke McCown ('04 4th Round) [2-7] 9 TDs 14 INTs 2,035 yards (58.0%): 177 rush yards (5.2 YPC) 68.3 QB rating
#18 Garrett Grayson ('15 3rd Round) --------------------NO EXPERIENCE-------------------------------

[NEW YORK GIANTS]
#10 ELI MANNING ('04 #1 Overall) [91-76; 8-3] 259 TDs 185 INTs 39,755 yards (59.0%): 5 rush TDs 462 rush yards (1.9 YPC) 82.4 QB rating {3x Pro Bowl; 2x SB Champ}
#9 Ryan Nassib ('13 4th Round) [no starts] 60 yards (80%): -3 rush yards (-1.5 YPC) 116.7 QB rating

[NEW YORK JETS]
#14 Ryan Fitzpatrick ('05 5th Round) [33-55-1] 123 TDs 101 INTs 19,273 yards (60.2%): 11 rush TDs 1,599 rush yards (4.6 YPC) 79.5 QB rating
#7 Geno Smith ('13 2nd Round) [11-18] 25 TDs 34 INTs 5,571 yards (57.5%): 7 rush TDs 604 rush yards (4.0 YPC) 71.5 QB rating
#9 Bryce Petty ('15 4th Round) ------------------------NO EXPERIENCE-------------------------------

[OAKLAND RAIDERS]
#4 Derek Carr ('14 2nd Round) [3-13] 21 TDs 12 INTs 3,270 yards (58.1%): 92 rush yards (3.2 YPC) 76.6 QB rating
#14 Matt McGloin ('13 Undrafted) [1-5] 9 TDs 10 INTs 1,676 yards (56.5%): 30 rush yards (1.5 YPC) 74.5 QB rating

[PHILADELPHIA EAGLES]
#8 Sam Bradford ('10 #1 Overall) [18-30-1] 59 TDs 38 INTs 11,065 yards (58.6%): 2 rush TDs 247 rush yards (2.5 YPC) 79.3 QB rating
#3 Mark Sanchez ('09 1st Round) [37-33; 4-2] 82 TDs 80 INTs 14,510 yards (56.3%): 13 rush TDs 429 rush yards (2.7 YPC) 74.1 QB rating
#4 Stephen Morris ('14 Undrafted) --------------------NO EXPERIENCE--------------------------------

[PITTSBURGH STEELERS]
#7 BEN ROETHLISBERGER ('04 1st Round) [106-52; 10-5] 251 TDs 131 INTs 39,057 yards (63.7%): 15 rush TDs 1,162 rush yards (3.1 YPC) 93.9 QB rating
#2 Michael Vick ('01 #1 Overall) [59-50-1; 2-3] 131 TDs 87 INTs 22,093 yards (56.1%): 36 rush TDs 6,010 rush yards (7.0 YPC) 80.4 QB rating {4x Pro Bowl}
#3 Landry Jones ('13 4th Round) ----------------------NO EXPERIENCE--------------------------------

[SAN DIEGO CHARGERS]
#17 Phillip Rivers ('04 1st Round) [88-56; 4-5] 252 TDs 122 INTs 36,655 yards (64.7%): 3 rush TDs 512 rush yards (1.8 YPC) 95.7 QB rating {5x Pro Bowl}
#10 Kellen Clemens ('06 2nd Round) [8-13] 15 TDs 20 INTs 3,954 yards (54.4%): 3 rush TDs 234 rush yards (3.0 YPC) 68.5 QB rating

[SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS]
#7 Colin Kaepernick ('11 2nd Round) [25-14; 4-2] 50 TDs 21 INTs 8,415 yards (60.1%): 10 rush TDs 1,576 rush yards (6.0 YPC) 90.6 QB rating
#2 Blaine Gabbert ('11 1st Round) [5-22] 23 TDs 24 INTs 4,395 yards (53.2%): 191 rush yards (2.5 YPC) 66.8 QB rating

[SEATTLE SEAHAWKS]
#3 RUSSELL WILSON ('12 3rd Round) [36-12; 6-2] 72 TDs 26 INTs 9,950 yards (63.4%): 11 rush TDs 1,877 rush yards (6.1 YPC) 98.6 QB rating {2x Pro Bowl; 1x SB Champ}
#7 Tarvaris Jackson ('06 2nd Round) [17-17; 0-1] 39 TDs 35 INTs 7,226 yards (59.6%): 6 rush TDs 644 rush yards (4.0 YPC) 78.5 QB rating

[ST. LOUIS RAMS]
#5 Nick Foles ('12 3rd Round) [15-9; 0-1] 46 TDs 17 INTs 6,753 yards (61.6%): 4 rush TDs 331 rush yards (3.9 YPC) 94.2 QB rating {1x Pro Bowl}
#17 Case Keenum ('12 Undrafted) [2-8] 11 TDs 8 INTs 2,195 yards (55.2%): 1 rush TDs 107 rush yards (4.5 YPC) 76.8 QB rating
#14 Sean Mannion ('15 3rd Round) ----------------------NO EXPERIENCE---------------------------------

[TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS]
#3 Jameis Winston ('15 #1 Overall) --------------------NO EXPERIENCE---------------------------------
#8 Mike Glennon ('13 3rd Round) [5-13] 29 TDs 15 INTs 4,025 yards (58.8%): 86 rush yards (2.3 YPC) 83.7 QB rating
#4 Ryan Griffin ('13 Undrafted) -----------------------NO EXPERIENCE---------------------------------

[TENNESSEE TITANS]
#8 Marcus Mariota ('15 1st Round) ---------------------NO EXPERIENCE---------------------------------
#7 Zach Mettenberger ('14 6th Round) [0-6] 8 TDs 7 INTs 1,412 yards (59.8%): 4 rush yards (.8 YPC) 83.4 QB rating
#12 Charlie Whitehurst ('06 3rd Round) [2-7] 10 TDs 6 INTs 2,131 yards (55.6%): 2 rush TDs 154 rush yards (3.0 YPC) 77.0 QB rating

[WASHINGTON REDSKINS]
#8 Kirk Cousins ('12 4th Round) [2-7] 18 TDs 19 INTs 3,030 yards (59%): 56 rush yards (4.0 YPC) 77.5 QB rating
#16 Colt McCoy ('10 3rd Round) [7-18] 25 TDs 23 INTs 5,458 yards (60.3%): 2 rush TDs 423 rush yards (3.7 YPC) 78.2 QB rating
#10 Robert Griffin III ('12 1st Round) [14-21; 0-1] 40 TDs 23 INTs 8,097 yards (63.9%): 8 rush TDs 1,480 rush yards (6.1 YPC) 90.6 QB rating {1x Pro Bowl}

82 QBs on active list
In a league that is 70% black only 17.1% of QBs are black
Only 16% of the current 50 backup QBs are black
There are currently 8 SB winning QBs as a starter, less than 10%
Only 3 have multiple SB Championships as a starter (Big Ben, Eli, Brady)
Only 25.6% of NFL QBs have a winning record as a starter
Only 28% of NFL QBs have started a playoff game
23% have won a playoff game
26.7% have been to a pro bowl
19.5% have been to multiple pro bowls
47.6% (almost half) have less than a full season of starts (16 games)
16 QBs have 100+ passing TDs [19.5%]
8 QBs have 200+ passing TDs [9.8%]
3 QBs have 300+ passing TDs (Peyton, Brees, Brady) [3.7%]

Despite the data showing that the worst QBs are overwhelmingly white, the sports media and fans go to great lengths to portray the few black QBs as the worst and most questionable. As the season progresses I will update this thread to highlight the ineptitude that dominates the NFL QB position. The greatest myth is that there is some sort of standard to be an NFL QB and that its rocket science. Race/White Supremacy is still the greatest factor in who gets to play QB, who gets patience as a QB, who gets to linger around in the league holding clipboards as a QB.

 

[ShadyPat]

Qg3 has not even been confirmed as a back up

 

[KingTaharqa]

QB SALARIES IN 2015​

Drew Brees Saints $26,400,000
Philip Rivers Chargers $21,166,668
Eli Manning Giants $19,750,000
Matt Ryan Falcons $19,500,000
Aaron Rodgers Packers $18,250,000
Matt Stafford Lions $17,721,250
Peyton Manning Broncos $17,500,000
Ben Roethlisberger Steelers $17,245,000
Jay Cutler Bears $16,500,000
Alex Smith Chiefs $15,600,000
Colin Kaepernick 49ers $15,265,753
Tony Romo Cowboys $14,973,000
Joe Flacco Ravens $14,550,000
Tom Brady Patriots $14,000,000
Cam Newton Panthers $13,000,000
Sam Bradford Eagles $12,985,000
Andy Dalton Bengals $9,600,000
Carson Palmer Cardinals $7,375,000
Russell Wilson Seahawks $7,054,868
Andrew Luck Colts $7,034,363
Robert Griffin III Redskins $6,719,713
Brian Hoyer Texans $5,218,750
Ryan Tannehill Dolphins $4,873,364
Chase Daniel Chiefs $4,800,000
Blake Bortles Jaguars $4,694,273
Jameis Winston Buccaneers $4,609,323
Marcus Mariota Titans $4,402,541
Nick Foles Rams $4,042,000
Josh McCown Browns $3,916,666
Drew Stanton Cardinals $3,866,668
Mark Sanchez Eagles $3,750,000
Chad Henne Jaguars $3,500,000
Ryan Fitzpatrick Jets $3,250,000
Shaun Hill Vikings $3,250,000
Ryan Mallett Texans $3,187,500
Matt Hasselbeck Colts $3,000,000
Matt Moore Dolphins $2,600,000
Charlie Whitehurst Titans $2,500,000
EJ Manuel Bills $2,423,264
Matt Cassel Bills $2,000,000
Matt Schaub Ravens $2,000,000
Johnny Manziel Browns $1,874,681
Bruce Gradkowski Steelers $1,833,334
Kellen Clemens Chargers $1,822,500
Derek Anderson Panthers $1,764,000
Blaine Gabbert 49ers $1,750,000
Teddy Bridgewater Vikings $1,556,705
Tarvaris Jackson Seahawks $1,500,000
Colt McCoy Redskins $1,375,000
Geno Smith Jets $1,368,983
Derek Carr Raiders $1,220,864
Scott Tolzien Packers $1,200,000
Jimmy Clausen Bears $1,125,000
Brock Osweiler Broncos $1,118,943
Tyrod Taylor Bills $883,333
Mike Glennon Buccaneers $846,563
Jimmy Garoppolo Patriots $791,795
Kirk Cousins Redskins $778,172
Ryan Nassib Giants $698,400
Landry Jones Steelers $694,805
Dan Orlovsky Lions $665,000
Luke McCown Saints $665,000
Joe Webb Panthers $665,000
Brandon Weeden Cowboys $660,000
Garrett Grayson Saints $618,292
Sean Renfree Falcons $596,474
Matt Barkley Cardinals $592,500
Sean Mannion Rams $591,449
Matthew McGloin Raiders $585,000
Case Keenum Rams $585,000
Michael Vick Steelers $585,000
Bryce Petty Jets $573,424
Aaron Murray Chiefs $563,606
AJ McCarron Bengals $555,413
Zach Mettenberger Titans $541,279
Tyler Bray Chiefs $513,334
David Fales Bears $510,000
B.J. Daniels Seahawks $510,000
Ryan Griffin Buccaneers $510,000
Logan Thomas Dolphins $510,000
Brett Hundley Packers $490,908
Trevor Siemian Broncos $448,196
Taylor Heinicke Vikings $438,333
Tyler Murphy Steelers $436,500
Stephen Morris Eagles $435,000
Tom Savage Texans $408,146
Mike Kafka Vikings $388,000
Connor Shaw Browns $318,000
G.J. Kinne Giants $112,200
Ricky Stanzi Lions $112,200
Bryn Renner Ravens $112,200
Kellen Moore Cowboys $112,200
Keith Wenning Bengals $112,200
Dylan Thompson 49ers $112,200
Zac Dysert Texans $112,200
Brad Sorensen Chargers $112,200
Garrett Gilbert Raiders $112,200
Jameill Showers Cowboys $112,200
Matt Simms Falcons $112,200

http://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2015/

 

[geezy]

Great info, thanks for this

 

[Mello Mello]

Derek Carr still hasn't impressed me yet. But as long as he can keep us on a steady win streak for a while I got no complaints.

 

[Spectrum]

smh @ Rivers, Stafford, Cutler, and Dalton making all that bread.. do those muthafuckas even have more than ONE playoff win collectively between them? and you can't pull the "NFL is a team sport bullshit" because all those muthafuckas have been surrounded with good talent.

 

[doggish_098]

this is off season chit chat the season kicks off tonight and i could give two shits about old stats im just excited football is back.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

smh @ Rivers, Stafford, Cutler, and Dalton making all that bread.. do those muthafuckas even have more than ONE playoff win collectively between them? and you can't pull the "NFL is a team sport bullshit" because all those muthafuckas have been surrounded with good talent.

Stacked teams
and been starters for years.

 

[BDR]

smh @ Rivers, Stafford, Cutler, and Dalton making all that bread.. do those muthafuckas even have more than ONE playoff win collectively between them? and you can't pull the "NFL is a team sport bullshit" because all those muthafuckas have been surrounded with good talent.

Fam u know what that shit is about already

 

[KingTaharqa]

I know this is from a few days ago, but had to link it in this thread as its very relevant to theme...

Brandon Marshall says race a factor in Tom Brady's suspension reversal​

New York Jets receiver Brandon Marshall said Tuesday that many players in the NFL believe race played a role in Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's four-game suspension being lifted.

"The race card," Marshall said. "There are a lot of players out there that believe that white players -- specifically, at the quarterback position -- are treated differently."

Marshall made his comments as part of a panel discussion on Showtime's "Inside the NFL."

A 10-year veteran, Marshall is a regular on the weekly show. Deflategate, naturally, was a hot topic on the season's first show.

"I think that there are three different types of players' views in this thing," said Marshall, glancing at prepared notes.

"No. 1 is the fighter. I think there are guys in the fight with Tom. When one player's rights are upheld, then all players' rights are upheld. It's not about what he did, if he's right or wrong. It's more about the process. Is it fair?

"The second is cowards -- I call them cowards. That's the guys that are afraid to face Tom Brady. They want him suspended; I don't believe in that."

The third, Marshall said, was "the race card."

Marshall said he has spoken to players across the league, noting, "This is not just from our locker room, this is from locker rooms across the States."

Marshall, entering his 10th season, certainly has played across the States. The Jets are his fourth team.

"This is how guys are feeling; this is not just my opinion," he said. "These are conversations I'm having with guys."

Asked if he believes black players are held to a different standard, Marshall said, "Absolutely. At times, yes."

Marshall added that he has talked to white players who share the same opinion.

Brady won his appeal last week when a federal judge ruled in his favor, nullifying a four-game suspension.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...ew-york-jets-race-factored-tom-brady-reversal

A black wide receiver pointing out the white supremacist leanings of the NFL especially towards white quarterbacks. B Marshall deserves a lot of respect for not being afraid to speak truth to power. Now lets look at how the white supremacist fans responded to his comments. Here's some I pulled from FB comments sections...

Gage Nemec writes..

"As much as I hate Tom Brady, Brandon Marshall sounds like every other whiny African American bringing race into everything..."

Michael Bowen Jr writes...

"What's the percentage of blacks in the league?"

Endre Banya writes..

"The NFL is 80 percent black, how is that racist?"

Bill Haubrich writes...

"I do agree the nfl is racist with so few whites playing"

Chris Jones writes

"More than half of the NFL are black so wtf I'd he talking about!!"

Stacey Capps writes

"I tried to scroll on past this and let all the other good people tell it like it is. But I can't. Here's what white kids are told; Keep your grades up, make a good ACT score, display good character, have no school/juvenile disciplinary record, be a good athlete and coach will help you pursue your fball dreams. While they're busy doing their homework and busting their ass in practice jokers like this skate through high school barely able to read, get 4 points on the ACT (Eddie Lacy-Alabama) get petted because they run fast and HS coach getting attention, get full ride college scholarships, get academic tutors to graduate college in underwater basket weaving and move on to the NFL to make millions. Let's apply Affirmative Action to sports teams! They're employers right?? Let's see what this ungrateful thug thinks then. Ridiculous!"

Julie Mayer Shaw then responded to that comment with...

"One good thing about this though by the time a player is out of the NFL he is broke within the first 5 years... Then what does the uneducated black athlete do to support himself? At least the white kid has a chance."

Frank Henson writes...

"How many of these Blacks got off easy for Dog Fighting. Beating their Wives and Girlfriends. Not to mention the Concealed Weapons they all carry, without a Permit. Forget about the Illegal Drugs. This is a Given.

Nick Raines then responded to that comment with...

"That's why I don't watch sports, its just an elaborate welfare program for ghetto blacks"

So the common themes we see in these comments from CACs are...

-The NFL is not racist because the majority of the workforce is black. It's very telling that the white supremacist are VERY aware of this fact. What they don't mention is the people who control it and are in ALL positions of authority are 85-90% white. The QBs, the offensive coordinators, the head coaches, the front office execs, the ownership, all exclusively white. It'd be like a white person saying apartheid wasn't racist because South Africa is 90% black, even though CACs controlled the government and resources. It also highlights their NEED to have white faces to offset it. Thus the importance of white QBs being the stars of the league.

-Blacks "play" the race card. Which was the most common response. Marshall admitted even some of the white players agreed with his stance, yet no comment towards them or even acknowledgement. One of the codes of white supremacy is that whites do NOT publicly challenge each other on race. Keep the heat squarely on the oppressed and victims of racism. And also none of those white players that agree with Marshall would EVER say so publicly.

-These CACs referenced all the crimes black players got in trouble for, some almost 10 years ago. Understand why ESPN and the media makes it a point to blow up any transgression black athletes get caught up in. It creates talking points for racist CACs to point to, and justifies their internal hatred and view of black males as "natural criminals" deserving of that hate.

-The CAC bitches comment about how "easy" blacks have it to get to the league and become millionaires speaks VOLUMES. That jealousy is very rampant among CAC sports fans. They love our entertainment but resent the lifestyle that provides to us (which is above theirs). It's also very telling that the other CAC bitch was very aware of how many NFL players go broke once their career is over and she seemed to revel in that while the white boys "have a chance". They are very cognizant that this system is there to use us for our gifts and talent but not designed to help us build and sustain long term wealth. After reading that, no black NFL fan should EVER be mad at a player who decides to hold out or go for as much cash as he can.

This is but a mere glimpse into the mind of psyche of NFL fans and only highlights the importance of white QBs to succeed in a "80% black league". And why they gloss over their failures and overrate their successes.

 

[KingTaharqa]

12-33 (36.4%) 126 yards 0 TDs 2 INTs 23.0 QB rating (COLTS LOSE 7-45)

Those were Andrew Luck's numbers in his final game of the season last year. And yet this offseason we got this...

Frank Gore: Colt's Andrew Luck Is A Football God
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...rank-gore-colts-andrew-luck-is-a-football-god

NFL execs weigh in: Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck rule QB roost
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...gh-in-aaron-rodgers-andrew-luck-rule-qb-roost

Andrew Luck has given the Colts a huge margin for error
http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13624289/andrew-luck-compensates-colts-flaws-mistakes-nfl

NFL Network analysts picked the Colts to win this year's Super Bowl and deemed Andrew Luck "elite". ESPN analysts had him ranked in their top 3 and top 5 QBs over a guy like Russell Wilson from his same draft who's already won a Super Bowl. It didn't matter that Luck nearly led the league in turnovers last year. Or that he had an abysmal playoff game (that was QUICKLY overshadowed by media coverage of DEFLATEGATE) and has had horrible playoff games before. Luck was being called a "future HOFer", "the perfect quarterback", "better than Cam Newton & Russell Wilson", etc. The media's coverage of Luck as being flawless began his sophomore year at Stanford and has carried over thru his first 3 seasons. Black & white NFL fans alike go out of their way not to be critical of him or point out his flaws but cant tell you why.

Fast forward to today's Week 1 matchup vs. the Bills, Luck goes...

26-49 (53.1%) 243 yards 2 TDs 2 INTs 63.6 QB rating (COLTS LOSE 14-27)

If any of the premier black QBs like Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Kaepernick, etc comes out and wets the bed in a blowout after all that offseason hype we would be told how OVERRATED they were. How the gamefilm has "caught up to them" or how they struggle grasping their offenses. But with Luck little mention will be made of that. Highlights of this game will show as little of his INTs and bonehead plays as possible and he will still be called "elite" or a "future HOFer" in spite of it. Andrew Luck represents white supremacy's need for their to always be heroes. Since so many of the white QB #1 picks (Stafford, Bradford, Smith etc) before him haven't lived up to the hype there is a need that he MUST succeed. Since all of the young hybrid black QBs (Newton, Wilson, Bridgewater, Taylor, etc) have either flourished or are flourishing So regardless of how shitty he plays, white supremacy will tailor the narrative to fit their needs.

It's only Week 1 so Luck has the chance to bounce back and have a strong 2015 campaign. But the fact remains, he is the living embodiment of white privilege and white supremacy at the NFL QB position. A 2nd generation player who's been grossly overhyped and overrated for the sake of white NFL fans having a great white hope to look to.

 

[KingTaharqa]

2014 1st Round pick (22nd) Johnny Manziel in 6 NFL games is...

31-59 (52.5%) 357 yards 1 TD 3 INTs 14 rushes 64 rush yards 1 rush TD 52.0 QB rating [0 wins 2 losses]

Conversely 2014 1st Round pick (32nd) Teddy Bridgewater in 13 games is...

259-402 (64.4%) 2,919 yards 14 TDs 12 INTs 47 rushes 209 rush yards 1 TD 85.2 QB rating [6 wins 6 losses]

Any questions?

 

[Soul On Ice]

Yeah didn't appreciate the way Gore was sucking Lucks dick this offseason. Quite disgusting.

 

[D-TOWN REP]

Let's not forget mediocre Brian Hoyer was handed the Texans starting job after being mediocre in Cleveland and already got himself benched

 

[Complex]

So now Andrew Luck isn't good

 

[Complex]

Yeah didn't appreciate the way Gore was sucking Lucks dick this offseason. Quite disgusting.

he had Kapernick and Alex Smith as QB's

A new accord is the greatest thing ever to someone who has had buckets.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

he had Kapernick and Alex Smith as QB's

A new accord is the greatest thing ever to someone who has had buckets.

Kap took his ass to the super bowl after years of not winning at all.


Cutler does what exactly? lol

 

[KingTaharqa]

Kap took his ass to the super bowl after years of not winning at all.


Cutler does what exactly? lol

Not to mention Kaep's QB rating is higher than Luck's. And he has more playoff TD than INTs unlike Luck.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Let's not forget mediocre Brian Hoyer was handed the Texans starting job after being mediocre in Cleveland and already got himself benched

He's benched in Houston?

Man fuck the Texans. You would think a town with its most successful QB being black (Moon) they'd want a brother back out there. But they wanna live and die by these retread bum ass white boys.

 

[unknownsoldier]

He's benched in Houston?

Man fuck the Texans. You would think a town with its most successful QB being black (Moon) they'd want a brother back out there. But they wanna live and die by these retread bum ass white boys.

Josh Freeman should get a shot there. I like Mallet, but he's a lot like Jamarcus Russell: 2-3 incredible throws followed by 2-3 WTFs. Strong arm guys like that often struggle with consistency.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Josh Freeman should get a shot there. I like Mallet, but he's a lot like Jamarcus Russell: 2-3 incredible throws followed by 2-3 WTFs. Strong arm guys like that often struggle with consistency.

Its over for mallet. should've been over. every time he could have won the starting job HE HASN'T

why keep someone on the roster who you know they will not be your future?

 

[KingTaharqa]

A few NFL Network memes today. These are league created not the fans....

They already shitting on Winston.

 

[Complex]

Not to mention Kaep's QB rating is higher than Luck's. And he has more playoff TD than INTs unlike Luck.

You dudes pay way too much attention to some QB ratings when you don't even know how they come up with the fucking rating.

Did they get there because of Kaep or because of the defense

Alex Smith had a 104 rating his last year with San Fran and 90 the year before that, so that means Alex Smith is a good QB according to you.

Kap took his ass to the super bowl after years of not winning at all.


Cutler does what exactly? lol

So did Alex Smith

 

[KingTaharqa]

You dudes pay way too much attention to some QB ratings when you don't even know how they come up with the fucking rating.

Did they get there because of Kaep or because of the defense

LargeBills Ima let you answer this one. Complex is in here BLINDLY parroting the talking heads.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

So did Alex Smith

No alex smith did not. Alex smith did not lead them to the super bowl. Colin Kaepernick did.
Colin Kaepernick is 4-2 in the playoffs.

What is Cutler's record?

Colin Kapernick is 3-0 againt green bay including 2 playoff wins (1 of them his 1st ever playoff game and 1 of them on the road the week after Cutler wasn't able to beat Rogers at home for a chance to get into the playoffs)

What has cutler done?

2 and a half years starting 4-2 playoff record super bowl appearance and separate nfccg appearance.

Again

What has cutler done?

Raise your hand if your QB is under 30 and has been to a super bowl.

wait

Raise your hand if your QB is a long tenured starter, over 30 and has been to a super bowl.

Your hand raised?

 

[unknownsoldier]

They already shitting on Winston.

The biggest takeaway from this game is Wisenhunt > Cutter. Look at this Titans offense & how they've incorporated things Mariota does well, night & day. The Bucs defense is getting destroyed.

So now Andrew Luck isn't good

He's good, but his flaws don't get nowhere near the scrutiny they should.

 

[^SpiderMan^]

Good thread.....

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

LargeBills Ima let you answer this one. Complex is in here BLINDLY parroting the talking heads.

The defense has NOTHING to do with the super bowl run.

Rogers put up 31 points. Kap put up 45.

Ryan put up 24 in the first damn half.

And Flacco put up 28.

If they play NEAR the level people like him claimed they were... it would have been an easy ring. EASY.

Aside from that. every game is actually on Kap.

There wasn't a time where GORE stepped up or someone else on offense said OK we're going to do this while you get yourself together. we literally live or die with whether kap can make the play or not.

Complex is sadly mistaken and it's funny he's in here talking shit when his fucking quarterback is Jay Cutler.

 

[Complex]

No alex smith did not. Alex smith did not lead them to the super bowl. Colin Kaepernick did.
Colin Kaepernick is 4-2 in the playoffs.

What is Cutler's record?

Colin Kapernick is 3-0 againt green bay including 2 playoff wins (1 of them his 1st ever playoff game and 1 of them on the road the week after Cutler wasn't able to beat Rogers at home for a chance to get into the playoffs)

What has cutler done?

2 and a half years starting 4-2 playoff record super bowl appearance and separate nfccg appearance.

Again

What has cutler done?

Raise your hand if your QB is under 30 and has been to a super bowl.

wait

Raise your hand if your QB is a long tenured starter, over 30 and has been to a super bowl.

Your hand raised?

am I arguing about Cutler

Muthafucka, is Kaepernick better than Luck?

 

[Complex]

The defense has NOTHING to do with the super bowl run.

Rogers put up 31 points. Kap put up 45.

Ryan put up 24 in the first damn half.

And Flacco put up 28.

If they play NEAR the level people like him claimed they were... it would have been an easy ring. EASY.

Aside from that. every game is actually on Kap.

There wasn't a time where GORE stepped up or someone else on offense said OK we're going to do this while you get yourself together. we literally live or die with whether kap can make the play or not.

Complex is sadly mistaken and it's funny he's in here talking shit when his fucking quarterback is Jay Cutler.

So your defense isn't the reason your team did good the past few years?

So this year you should get to the NFC Championship, since the defense doesn't matter, right

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

So your defense isn't the reason your team did good the past few years?

So this year you should get to the NFC Championship, since the defense doesn't matter, right

The defense isn't the reason we won in the playofs. Kapernick is.

The defense AND Kaepernick is why we were good.

Truth be told Harbaugh/Roman didn't even know what they were doing offensively. Not knowing what they were doing doesn't mean they aren't smart. It means they didn't know what to do and switched entirely too much which showed in the inconsistent showings.

 

[Soul On Ice]

Complex why are you riding so hard against Kap?
This thread was meant to point out the bad/over rated cac qbs.

Sounding like a hurt lil girl.
In all of your blind hate you have yet to justify why he's not good.

 

[jasonblacc]

Why did Crabtree shit on Kap Though?

 

[Complex]

Complex why are you riding so hard against Kap?
This thread was meant to point out the bad/over rated cac qbs.

Sounding like a hurt lil girl.
In all of your blind hate you have yet to justify why he's not good.

Because you mentioned Gore's comments

and instead of saying...hmmmmm, maybe he's right. Maybe that's his opinion. He has first hand knowledge.

I have no problem with Kaep. But I do have a problem with dudes trying to diss Luck. Are ya'll going to diss Aaron Rodgers too? He's white. He only has one title.

Nobody was saying Alex Smith had a 104 QB rating when they wanted him gone.

Nobody was saying, well Alex Smith just took us to the NFC Championship game.

You muthafuckas want to pick and choose your arguments and defense of QB's.

 

[tampabay904]

I just hope that my jags are as bad as they looked.