I can see that. Not alot of action. Comedy. More focus on characterization in that book. Seems like her strong suit.
Movie News: Marvel Reportedly Wants Ava DuVernay To Direct Superhero Movie
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I can see that. Not alot of action. Comedy. More focus on characterization in that book. Seems like her strong suit.
agreed
A lot of Black fanboys and fangirls are relieved. Now what? Rick Famuyiwa?
EXCLUSIVE: Ava DuVernay Won’t Be Directing ‘Black Panther’ Movie
http://www.essence.com/2015/07/03/exclusive-ava-duvernay-not-directing-black-panther-movie
The first Black female superhero movie director moment is going to have to be put on hold, folks.
It turns out those rumors of Ava DuVernay directing Marvel’s Black Panther movie were not totally factual—she considered it, but passed.
The Selma director tells ESSENCE she did meet with execs about bringing the story of Marvel’s first superhero of color to life, but they had different ideas of how to move forward.
“I guess I'll declare my independence from this rumor on 4th of July weekend and Essence weekend!” DuVernay said on her way to accept a McDonald’s 365 Award during the ESSENCE Festival in New Orleans.
“I'm not signing on to direct Black Panther,” she added. “I think I’ll just say we had different ideas about what the story would be. Marvel has a certain way of doing things and I think they’re fantastic and a lot of people love what they do. I loved that they reached out to me.”
The Black Panther movie is currently in the works, with Chadwick Boseman (Get on Up) slated to play the role of T’Challa, the ruler of the fictional nation of Wakanda and the first Black superhero to appear in a mainstream comic book franchise in the 60s.
“I loved meeting Chadwick and writers and all the Marvel execs,” said DuVernay. “In the end, it comes down to story and perspective. And we just didn't see eye to eye. Better for me to realize that now than cite creative differences later.”
The civil right pilot she recently shot for CBS, tentatively titled For Justice, didn’t get picked up. “We turned it in the week of the Baltimore uprising, and we had an uprising in our piece when we filmed it,” she said. “I think they thought it was a little close to real life. But I had an absolute ball making it.”
DuVernay, a 2013 ESSENCE Black Women in Hollywood honoree, is currently filming a love story set against Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.
As for the Black Panther movie, she says she’s in full support of the project.
“I love the character of Black Panther, the nation of Wakanda and all that that could be visually. I wish them well and will be first in line to see it."
EXCLUSIVE: Ava DuVernay Won’t Be Directing ‘Black Panther’ Movie
http://www.essence.com/2015/07/03/exclusive-ava-duvernay-not-directing-black-panther-movie
The first Black female superhero movie director moment is going to have to be put on hold, folks.
It turns out those rumors of Ava DuVernay directing Marvel’s Black Panther movie were not totally factual—she considered it, but passed.
The Selma director tells ESSENCE she did meet with execs about bringing the story of Marvel’s first superhero of color to life, but they had different ideas of how to move forward.
“I guess I'll declare my independence from this rumor on 4th of July weekend and Essence weekend!” DuVernay said on her way to accept a McDonald’s 365 Award during the ESSENCE Festival in New Orleans.
“I'm not signing on to direct Black Panther,” she added. “I think I’ll just say we had different ideas about what the story would be. Marvel has a certain way of doing things and I think they’re fantastic and a lot of people love what they do. I loved that they reached out to me.”
The Black Panther movie is currently in the works, with Chadwick Boseman (Get on Up) slated to play the role of T’Challa, the ruler of the fictional nation of Wakanda and the first Black superhero to appear in a mainstream comic book franchise in the 60s.
“I loved meeting Chadwick and writers and all the Marvel execs,” said DuVernay. “In the end, it comes down to story and perspective. And we just didn't see eye to eye. Better for me to realize that now than cite creative differences later.”
The civil right pilot she recently shot for CBS, tentatively titled For Justice, didn’t get picked up. “We turned it in the week of the Baltimore uprising, and we had an uprising in our piece when we filmed it,” she said. “I think they thought it was a little close to real life. But I had an absolute ball making it.”
DuVernay, a 2013 ESSENCE Black Women in Hollywood honoree, is currently filming a love story set against Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.
As for the Black Panther movie, she says she’s in full support of the project.
“I love the character of Black Panther, the nation of Wakanda and all that that could be visually. I wish them well and will be first in line to see it."
its almost impossible for a known director to have less experience than Ms Duvernay...
less talented or not as good as her? yes, but not less experienced
Who the fuck were the Russo Brothers before Winter Soldier?
Ava is an Oscar nominated director.
They were less experienced, if I recall correctly.
This scares me. I wasn't to pleased with what i saw in Avengers 2 of Wakanda now this really really scares me.
Wakanda wasn't in Avengers 2, other than being mentioned.
Hold on, 90% of this thread didn't want her now people disappointed she ain't get it?
I'm telling ya'll she would have done well but would be able yo direct by committee.
Reading between the lines Marvel is going straight action movie, no real social commentary beyond the the usual black hero finds the light by going against his father old school hate of the outside world to help white people ie the avengers.
I'm telling ya'll she would have done well but would be able yo direct by committee.
Reading between the lines Marvel is going straight action movie, no real social commentary beyond the the usual black hero finds the light by going against his father old school hate of the outside world to help white people ie the avengers.
She's done 3 films. I'm sure there are filmmakers with less experience than that...
Ssshhheeeiiiitt... I'm glad she's not directing Black Panther anymore.
Don't get me wrong, she's highly talented....
But 'superhero' movies are just not her lane
... and she probably realized that.I think she's better off making movies where she has 'more creative control' telling captivating stories that focus heavily on GREAT ACTING with intricate plot-twists & deeper 'character development', which are geared toward more mature audiences than a 'comic book movie' aims for.
Because Marvel superhero movies are mostly rated PG-13 and the acting is GOOD... but 'the acting' alone is not the PRIMARY reason that fans go to see them.
Instead, Ava would do well directing R-rated movies built for an adult demographic, imo.
Personally, I could see her THRIVING more in the 'crime/drama', 'heist/caper', or 'political thriller' types of genres... and possibly win Oscars for it. (Or at least get nominated, year after year.)
i.e. Making the types of movies that ask the audience to 'stay focused & pay attention to the smallest details' which build toward a powerful climax, or unexpected plot-twist... as opposed to making the types of movies that ask the audience to just 'buckle up & enjoy the ride'.
She could knock shit out the park by casting black actors & making movies similar to these....
- The Score
- Carlito's Way
- LA Confidential
- The Pelican Brief
- House of Cards
- Devil in a Blue Dress
- Silence of the Lambs
- All The President’s Men
- The Thomas Crowne Affair
- The Manchurian Candidate
- Three Days of the Condor
Not saying she should do any 'remakes' at all.
Rather, she should 'aim' for these types of stories, performances & audiences, in general.
She doesn't have to make superhero movies at all.
She'd prolly win more Oscars if she didn't.
Just my opinion.
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Lowkey she prob lurk here and saw bgol wasnt too keen on her directing lmao.
I trust she made a sound decision based on her capabilities and vision as a director. As someone else said, I'm guessing marvel wanted less depth and more action.
I trust she made a sound decision based on her capabilities and vision as a director. As someone else said, I'm guessing marvel wanted less depth and more action.
Basically. Can't do anything that would scare off the white folks or make them squirm for a few seconds. The blackest thing about Black Panther will be his costume.
So who ya'll want now?
This is why I never take the opinions of comic book movies serious here. It's a roller coaster of opinions that never end.
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God please no. She may be a talented director, but I don't want any more "Ang Lee" superhero movies.
i still agree with these sentiments
Same dudes we been talking about from jump.
Pick any of these guys....
- F Gary Gray
- Antoine Fuqua
- John Singleton
- The Hughes Brothers
some of those marvel execs seem to be really difficult to work with.....good luck to whoever gets to sit at the helm of the new franchise.
Not so Marvel-ous: How walkouts, unpleasantries are tainting the brand
Is Marvel Studios losing its identity? (Marvel)
When Edgar Wright dropped out of directing Ant-Man, a film he had essentially nurtured since 2005, the internet exploded in outcry. Wright had been a fanboy favourite for years with his supremely exciting Blood and Ice Cream trilogy. His decision to do a Marvel movie, that too one featuring such an unlikely hero promised great things. And now, in what is becoming regrettable commonplace for a studio that once boasted an unblemished record, we learn that Selma director Ava DuVernay has also dropped out of directing the upcoming Black Panther movie.
In what would have been a first for Marvel, and Hollywood in general, DuVernay’s hiring on Black Panther (or Captain Marvel) would have marked the first time a woman, furthermore a black woman would have been given charge of a movie of this magnitude.
Ava DuVernay on the sets of Selma
After Marvel head Kevin Feige admitted that they had been having conversations with DuVernay for the job, today the director released this statement to Essence: “I’m not signing on to direct Black Panther. I think I’ll just say we had different ideas about what the story would be. Marvel has a certain way of doing things and I think they’re fantastic and a lot of people love what they do. I loved that they reached out to me.”
“I loved meeting Chadwick and writers and all the Marvel execs. In the end, it comes down to story and perspective. And we just didn’t see eye to eye. Better for me to realize that now than cite creative differences later,” she continued.
What DuVernay says makes sense, especially since only last week Thor: The Dark World director Alan Taylor had some decidedly bitter words to say about his Marvel experience while out doing publicity rounds for his latest film Terminator: Genisys.
When asked about how his time on Thor compared to his Terminator experience, the Game of Thrones veteran said to Uproxx, “They were very different. I’ve done two and I’ve learned that you don’t make a $170 million movie with someone else’s money and not have to collaborate a lot. The Marvel experience was particularly wrenching because I was sort of given absolute freedom while we were shooting, and then in post it turned into a different movie. So, that is something I hope never to repeat and don’t wish upon anybody else. This was not like that. The story we started telling is essentially the story we finished and are bringing out into the world. But there was a lot of collaboration, as there is going to be on something this big.”
Chris Hemsworth takes directions from Alan Taylor
And such ‘wrenching’ experiences are becoming far too common with Marvel. Once lauded for being a studio that appreciated the talents of auteur filmmakers, giving them the liberty to leave their stamp on material that had thus far been treated with patronizing indifference, Marvel is turning into an operation that has become too wrapped up in its own success, concerned more with crafting an overall universe than stand-alone movies.
Before Taylor was hired in what seemed like an inspired choice considering his experience with sword and sandal fantasy, Marvel courted yet another GoT alum for the gig: Brian Kirk, who passed soon after citing ‘contractual sticking points’. Next on the list was Monster director Patty Jenkins, whose appointment was confirmed not too long after. But, she dropped out dangerously close to the start of production. Once again, blame was hurled at ‘creative differences’. Said Jenkins to The Hollywood Reporter, “I have had a great time working at Marvel. We parted on very good terms, and I look forward to working with them again.”
The façade of a utopic studio where talent is nurtured and collaboration encouraged, much like the heroes of their films, was breaking.
The final straw came with the Ant-Man debacle last year. For years it had been one of the most highly anticipated films on the studio’s roster, simply because of director Edgar Wright’s unique vision, a sentiment that was strengthened when he released extremely well-received test footage and even began tweeting pictures of early production and sets.
Latino Review offered explanation: About 3 months ago, Marvel had notes. The meat of the notes were about the core morality of the piece, must include franchise characters. etc., These notes came from the big four at Marvel. Joe Cornish and Edgar Wright did two drafts to try and answer the notes without compromising their vision. 6 weeks ago Marvel took the script off them and gave the writing assignment to two very low credit writers. One of the writers was from Marvel’s in house writing team. Edgar stayed cool, agreed to stay on the project, and read the draft. The script came in this week and was completely undone. Poorer, homogenised, and not Edgar’s vision. Edgar met with Marvel on Friday to formally exit and the announcement went out directly after.
Edgar Wright's Ant-Man test
But it wasn’t always like this. Iron Man sported all the humour and bravado of a Jon Favreau film. Kenneth Branagh elevated Thor into a modern retelling of Shakespeare. Joe Johnston brought his Lucasfilm expertise into Captain America: The First Avenger. James Gunn’s Guardians of the Galaxy was an eccentric blast and, looking back, it seems that Shane Black was given somewhat unprecedented freedom in making Iron Man 3 his own. Joss Whedon, untested in the choppy waters of big-budget filmmaking, culminated the ambitious Phase 1 with the giddy highs of The Avengers. The film was widely considered to be the best of them all, giving Whedon significant pull in the business after it grossed $1.5 billion at the wordwide box-office. But even their new godfather wasn’t spared with the sequel.
Talking about the difficulty he had with convincing the heads of studio that the entire farmhouse sequence and the dream sequences were vitally important to the film, Whedon lamented in the Empire Podcast, “The dreams were not an executive favourite. The dreams, the farmhouse, these were things I fought [for]. With the cave, they pointed a gun at the farm’s head and ‘Give us the cave’. They got the farm. In a civilised way – I respect these guys, but that’s when it got really unpleasant. There was a point when there was going to be no cave, and Thor was going to leave and come back and say, ‘I figured some stuff out.’ And at that point I was so beaten down, I was like, ‘Sure, okay… what movie is this?’ The editors were like, ‘No no, you have to show the thing, you just can’t say it.’ I was like, ‘Okay, thank you, we can figure this out!’ You can tell it was beaten down, but it was hard won.”
Lone wolf: Joss Whedon is master and commander
Whedon left Marvel following the release of Avengers: Age of Ultron, like many before him. And just like the new team that takes over from the original group in the Avengers, a new crop of directors has been handed the reins of the multi-billion dollar franchise. What remains to be seen is if the series can escape from the shadow of the growing generic nature of their movies and reach higher.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/holly...passes-on-black-panther/article1-1365798.aspx
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Same dudes we been talking about from jump.
Pick any of these guys....
- F Gary Gray
- Antoine Fuqua
- John Singleton
- The Hughes Brothers
lets take one by one....
F Gary Gray
Friday (1995)
Set It Off (1996)
The Negotiator (1998)
Ryan Caulfield: Year One (1999) (TV series)
The Italian Job (2003)
A Man Apart (2003)
Be Cool (2005)
Law Abiding Citizen (2009)
Straight Outta Compton (2015)
I need to see SOC...but looking at The Negotiator, The Italian Job (in a odd way a precursor to the Fast & the Furious we see now), A Man Apart he can handle big budget summer big action big cast films.
Be Cool is an excellent movie which shows he could do the smart dialogue heavy and funny.
This is NOT a bad choice.
Friday (1995)
Set It Off (1996)
The Negotiator (1998)
Ryan Caulfield: Year One (1999) (TV series)
The Italian Job (2003)
A Man Apart (2003)
Be Cool (2005)
Law Abiding Citizen (2009)
Straight Outta Compton (2015)
I need to see SOC...but looking at The Negotiator, The Italian Job (in a odd way a precursor to the Fast & the Furious we see now), A Man Apart he can handle big budget summer big action big cast films.
Be Cool is an excellent movie which shows he could do the smart dialogue heavy and funny.
This is NOT a bad choice.
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Antoine Fuqua
1998 The Replacement Killers
1999 Usher Live Straight to video
2000 Bait
2001 From Toni with Love: The Video Collection Straight to video
2001 Training Day
2003 Tears of the Sun
2004 Lightning in a Bottle Documentary
2004 King Arthur
2005 Murder Book TV
2006 The Call
2007 Shooter
2010 Brooklyn's Finest
2013 Olympus Has Fallen
2014 The Equalizer
2015 Southpaw
2017 The Magnificent Seven Filming
I wasn't enthusiastic off King Arthur because he wasn't able to establish his own 'world' ...but he can handle big budget and is a VERY smart director who knows how to get the best out of his actors and connect with the audience.
1998 The Replacement Killers
1999 Usher Live Straight to video
2000 Bait
2001 From Toni with Love: The Video Collection Straight to video
2001 Training Day
2003 Tears of the Sun
2004 Lightning in a Bottle Documentary
2004 King Arthur
2005 Murder Book TV
2006 The Call
2007 Shooter
2010 Brooklyn's Finest
2013 Olympus Has Fallen
2014 The Equalizer
2015 Southpaw
2017 The Magnificent Seven Filming
I wasn't enthusiastic off King Arthur because he wasn't able to establish his own 'world' ...but he can handle big budget and is a VERY smart director who knows how to get the best out of his actors and connect with the audience.
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John Singleton
Boyz n the Hood (1991) (Nominated- Academy Award for Best Director)
Poetic Justice (1993)
Higher Learning (1995)
Rosewood (1997)
Shaft (2000)
Baby Boy (2001)
2 Fast 2 Furious (2003)
Four Brothers (2005)
Abduction (2011)
Empire (2015) (TV series; one episode)
I don't think so. Four Brothers was a dope throwback flick and he has the humor dialogue and pacing down he he is really smart with the audience but I just don't think so off of Shaft.
Boyz n the Hood (1991) (Nominated- Academy Award for Best Director)
Poetic Justice (1993)
Higher Learning (1995)
Rosewood (1997)
Shaft (2000)
Baby Boy (2001)
2 Fast 2 Furious (2003)
Four Brothers (2005)
Abduction (2011)
Empire (2015) (TV series; one episode)
I don't think so. Four Brothers was a dope throwback flick and he has the humor dialogue and pacing down he he is really smart with the audience but I just don't think so off of Shaft.
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The Hughes Brothers
Menace II Society (1993)
Dead Presidents (1995)
American Pimp (1999) – documentary
From Hell (2001)
The Book of Eli (2010)
Broken City (2013) – Allen Hughes only
Yeah I like this.
Book of Eli was a post apocalyptic superhero movie.
Dead Presidents and Menace II Society they got the Black aesthetic down flat.
They won't compromise this to much and seem to understand how to work with a monster studio influence like Marvel.Disney. I could see them leaving over 'creative differences' just before post production but they would steer the ship enough to create great final product.
I was one of the few that From Hell was an outstanding effort and I think they would do for Wakannda the same thing they did for Victorian England.
Menace II Society (1993)
Dead Presidents (1995)
American Pimp (1999) – documentary
From Hell (2001)
The Book of Eli (2010)
Broken City (2013) – Allen Hughes only
Yeah I like this.
Book of Eli was a post apocalyptic superhero movie.
Dead Presidents and Menace II Society they got the Black aesthetic down flat.
They won't compromise this to much and seem to understand how to work with a monster studio influence like Marvel.Disney. I could see them leaving over 'creative differences' just before post production but they would steer the ship enough to create great final product.
I was one of the few that From Hell was an outstanding effort and I think they would do for Wakannda the same thing they did for Victorian England.
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They were also going to direct the Akira remake before the project fell apart.
Visually creative cats.
They were also going to direct the Akira remake before the project fell apart.
Visually creative cats.
Agreed
Why Top Directors Do Not Want to Work for Marvel
Marvel has driven away another creative, innovative filmmaker with its overly strict movie-making machine. Ava DuVernay was widely rumored to be the studio’s top choice to direct Black Panther, which will be the first Marvel film centered on an African American character, but the Selma director recently told Essence magazine that she had discussions with Marvel about the film and decided not to pursue the project. Apparently her and the company had some different ideas about how the movie should go. Marvel seems to want acclaimed directors to come and make superhero movies for them, but won’t let the filmmakers have the creative control they’re going to want/need/probably demand in order to make the movies.
The company is seeking to get a person of color to direct Black Panther and a woman to direct Captain Marvel, which will be the company’s first movie focusing on a female superhero. Black Panther is set to star Chadwick Boseman as the titular hero, the prince of the fictional African nation of Wakanda who has to take on his father’s throne and avenge the king’s death.
Marvel’s aspirations have always been high, as the company has made comic book-based movies that appeal to both wide audiences and critics. It has seduced the most famous and the most acclaimed actors in the business into roles as superheroes. But Marvel has had a harder time with getting big name directors on board. Not that they haven’t had talented filmmakers work with the company, but the need for the movies to have continuity in the Marvel Cinematic Universe as well as comply with the vision of Marvel head Kevin Feige has been a turnoff for filmmakers who are used to having creative control over their films.
“I’m not signing on to direct Black Panther,” DuVernay told Essence. “I think I’ll just say we had different ideas about what the story would be. Marvel has a certain way of doing things and I think they’re fantastic and a lot of people love what they do. I loved that they reached out to me.”
“I loved meeting Chadwick and writers and all the Marvel execs,” DuVernay continued. “In the end, it comes down to story and perspective. And we just didn’t see eye to eye. Better for me to realize that now than cite creative differences later.”
She’s alluding to Marvel’s last director snafu, one that will be fresh in people’s minds as Ant-Man is due to come out later this month. Filmmaker Edgar Wright, best known for the trilogy Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz, and The World’s End, developed that project for the better part of a decade before finally dropping out, citing creative differences with Marvel. Peyton Reed was brought in to replace him and Wright is still getting screenwriting and other credits for his contributions to the film, but he still essentially lost years of work due to the inability to find common ground with Marvel on the project.
This happened yet again with Monster director Patty Jenkins and the Thor sequel, The Dark World. Monster was a widely acclaimed look at serial killer Aileen Wuornos, who murdered seven men while working as a prostitute. Charlize Theron won pretty much every award there is to win, including the Oscar, for her portrayal of Wuornos. Jenkins signed on to direct The Dark World, but exited the project citing creative differences. She said she remained open to the idea of doing a superhero movie and Marvel, a company in need of a female director as it’s under fire for a lack of diversity at every level of filmmaking, allowed Jenkins to get scooped up by Warner Bros. and DC first. She’ll be directing Wonder Woman for that studio.
If Marvel really wants to get these interesting and acclaimed filmmakers on board with its projects, then the company needs to allow more room for their varying creative interpretations. The way the studio has all of its movies planned out for so many years in advance, with their varying interlocking plots, there’s little room for experimentation with story.
Ditto goes for style with the way Marvel has established the feel of its films and hasn’t shown much willingness to stray from that aesthetic.
If the studio wants the best and most distinctive filmmakers in the business to work for it, then it’s going to have to loosen up.
Black Panther is due to be released on July 6, 2018 and DuVernay remains supportive of the movie. “I love the character of Black Panther, the nation of Wakanda and all that that could be visually. I wish them well and will be first in line to see it,” she said.
Marvel has driven away another creative, innovative filmmaker with its overly strict movie-making machine. Ava DuVernay was widely rumored to be the studio’s top choice to direct Black Panther, which will be the first Marvel film centered on an African American character, but the Selma director recently told Essence magazine that she had discussions with Marvel about the film and decided not to pursue the project. Apparently her and the company had some different ideas about how the movie should go. Marvel seems to want acclaimed directors to come and make superhero movies for them, but won’t let the filmmakers have the creative control they’re going to want/need/probably demand in order to make the movies.
The company is seeking to get a person of color to direct Black Panther and a woman to direct Captain Marvel, which will be the company’s first movie focusing on a female superhero. Black Panther is set to star Chadwick Boseman as the titular hero, the prince of the fictional African nation of Wakanda who has to take on his father’s throne and avenge the king’s death.
Marvel’s aspirations have always been high, as the company has made comic book-based movies that appeal to both wide audiences and critics. It has seduced the most famous and the most acclaimed actors in the business into roles as superheroes. But Marvel has had a harder time with getting big name directors on board. Not that they haven’t had talented filmmakers work with the company, but the need for the movies to have continuity in the Marvel Cinematic Universe as well as comply with the vision of Marvel head Kevin Feige has been a turnoff for filmmakers who are used to having creative control over their films.
“I’m not signing on to direct Black Panther,” DuVernay told Essence. “I think I’ll just say we had different ideas about what the story would be. Marvel has a certain way of doing things and I think they’re fantastic and a lot of people love what they do. I loved that they reached out to me.”
“I loved meeting Chadwick and writers and all the Marvel execs,” DuVernay continued. “In the end, it comes down to story and perspective. And we just didn’t see eye to eye. Better for me to realize that now than cite creative differences later.”
She’s alluding to Marvel’s last director snafu, one that will be fresh in people’s minds as Ant-Man is due to come out later this month. Filmmaker Edgar Wright, best known for the trilogy Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz, and The World’s End, developed that project for the better part of a decade before finally dropping out, citing creative differences with Marvel. Peyton Reed was brought in to replace him and Wright is still getting screenwriting and other credits for his contributions to the film, but he still essentially lost years of work due to the inability to find common ground with Marvel on the project.
This happened yet again with Monster director Patty Jenkins and the Thor sequel, The Dark World. Monster was a widely acclaimed look at serial killer Aileen Wuornos, who murdered seven men while working as a prostitute. Charlize Theron won pretty much every award there is to win, including the Oscar, for her portrayal of Wuornos. Jenkins signed on to direct The Dark World, but exited the project citing creative differences. She said she remained open to the idea of doing a superhero movie and Marvel, a company in need of a female director as it’s under fire for a lack of diversity at every level of filmmaking, allowed Jenkins to get scooped up by Warner Bros. and DC first. She’ll be directing Wonder Woman for that studio.
If Marvel really wants to get these interesting and acclaimed filmmakers on board with its projects, then the company needs to allow more room for their varying creative interpretations. The way the studio has all of its movies planned out for so many years in advance, with their varying interlocking plots, there’s little room for experimentation with story.
Ditto goes for style with the way Marvel has established the feel of its films and hasn’t shown much willingness to stray from that aesthetic.
If the studio wants the best and most distinctive filmmakers in the business to work for it, then it’s going to have to loosen up.
Black Panther is due to be released on July 6, 2018 and DuVernay remains supportive of the movie. “I love the character of Black Panther, the nation of Wakanda and all that that could be visually. I wish them well and will be first in line to see it,” she said.
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^^^^^^
Great. Fucking. Drop.
This is exactly WHY I like these 'Behind The Scenes' type of videos.
Because you can see exactly HOW the 'creative process' works.
Assist.
Lemme help 'convince you' a bit more.
That 2nd ('behind the scenes') video that Raze just dropped is exactly how it goes down.
(SIDENOTE: For anyone reading this who has not seen it.... watch those 2 videos above FIRST... then come back to this post and continue reading from here
)Now imagine either Antoine Fuqua or F. Gary Gray teaming up with either one of these 2 Marvel Storyboard artists to make the Black Panther movie.
The Copeland Brothers are 'on the rise' in the world of Storyboards & Animatics.
Look out for them.Chris Copeland
Storyboard Artist at Warner Bros. Animation
Justin Copeland
Storyboard Artist at Marvel Animation Studios
Justin’s Filmography:
2015 Batman Unlimited: Animal Instincts (Video) (storyboard artist)
2014 Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H. (TV Series) (storyboard artist)
2013-2014 Marvel's Avengers Assemble (TV Series) (storyboard artist)
2014 Iron Man and Captain America: Heroes United (Video) (storyboard artist)
2012 Ultimate Spider-Man (TV Series) (storyboard revisionist)
2012 The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes (TV Series) (storyboard revisionist)
2013-2014 Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H. (TV Series) (storyboard artist)
2013 Marvel's Avengers Assemble (TV Series) (storyboard artist)
2012-2013 NFL Rush Zone: Season of the Guardians (TV Series) (storyboard artist)
2012 Ultimate Spider-Man (TV Series) (storyboard artist)
2011 The Super Hero Squad Show (TV Series) (storyboard revisionist)
Justin's Storyboard Action Sequence
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Federico D'Alessandro
Head Storyboard Artist and Animatic Supervisor at Marvel Studios
This dude is responsible for ALOT of the BIGGEST ACTION SCENES at Marvel Studios.
It would be AWESOME to have both him & Justin working on Black Panther.
Federico's Filmography:
2016 Doctor Strange (animatics supervisor) (pre-production)
2015 Ant-Man (storyboard artist)
2015 Terminator Genisys (storyboard artist)
2015 Avengers: Age of Ultron (animatics supervisor) / (lead storyboard artist)
2014 Captain America: The Winter Soldier (animatics supervisor) / (storyboard artist)
2013 Thor: The Dark World (animatics supervisor) / (storyboard artist)
2013 Iron Man 3 (animatics supervisor) / (storyboard artist)
2012 The Avengers (animatics supervisor) / (storyboard artist)
2011 Captain America: The First Avenger (storyboard artist)
2011 Thor (lead storyboard artist)
2010 The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (storyboard artist)
2009 Where the Wild Things Are (storyboard artist - as Federico D'Allesandro)
2008 The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian (storyboard artist)
2007 I Am Legend (storyboard artist)
2007 The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (storyboard artist - uncredited)
2006 Abominable (creature designer) / (storyboard artist)
2006 Stay Alive (storyboard artist)
2006 Behind the Smile (storyboard artist)
2005 All the Invisible Children (storyboard artist)
2005 Aliens of the Deep (Documentary) (storyboard artist)
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^^ Now, no offense meant to Ava Duvernay... BUT THIS RIGHT HERE.... is the 'other side of the game' that is at the very heart of the Superhero/action movie-making magic.
The Movie Director shapes the storyboards... and envisions everything 'frame by frame'.
Then collaborates with the Artists, who bring their own skills to the table to improve upon the idea.
But if she doesn't have the 'vision' to imagine these types of sequences... then DIRECT the storyboard artists to DRAW UP these types of 'visuals'... then she won't make these types of movies that are filled with 'over the top' type of action scenes... and still tell a good dramatic story at the same time.
And after plenty of arguments & interference from the Marvel Execs... it might end up exactly how she thinks it would.... 'we had different ideas about what the story would be'.
Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt whatsoever that Ava could tell a helluva GREAT 'dramatic' story.
That's why I had said earlier that she would probably be better suited for movies that require FAR, FAR LESS 'over the top' types of action scenes, if any.
But these dudes like F. Gary Gray, Antoine Fuqua, the Hughes Brothers, or John Singleton could pull this shit off nicely, imo.
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You need to send that presentation to their respective agents...and get 10%
Cause that convinced me.
You need to send that presentation to their respective agents...and get 10%
Cause that convinced me.
Ava DuVernay opens up about why she passed on directing Black Panther
For months, rumors swirled about Ava DuVernay potentially being on board to direct Marvel’s Black Panther — the first Marvel superhero movie to star a black character. And although DuVernay ultimately passed on the gig, she’s been open about her reasons for her decision.
During the recent 2015 BlogHer conference in New York, DuVernay delivered the closing keynote where she shared advice about how to get ahead in the industry when you’re a minority. Unsurprisingly, the conversation about her Marvel meetings came up and DuVernay went into detail about why she decided to not take the project.
And while she was intrigued by the cultural impact the film would have, especially with a black superhero at the helm, she also went on to explain that “everyone is interested in different things.”
These kinds of talks aren’t uncommon — Alan Taylor recently shared his frustration about working with a big studio like Marvel, and DuVernay has openly admitted that the film she would have wanted to make would have been different than what the studio wanted. But for DuVernay, the most important thing was being able to stay true to the work she wanted to create (she also said she plans to see Black Panther when it’s released).
“This is my art. This is what will live on after I’m gone,” she said. “So it’s important to me that that be true to who I was in this moment. And if there’s too much compromise, it really wasn’t going to be an Ava DuVernay film.”
For months, rumors swirled about Ava DuVernay potentially being on board to direct Marvel’s Black Panther — the first Marvel superhero movie to star a black character. And although DuVernay ultimately passed on the gig, she’s been open about her reasons for her decision.
During the recent 2015 BlogHer conference in New York, DuVernay delivered the closing keynote where she shared advice about how to get ahead in the industry when you’re a minority. Unsurprisingly, the conversation about her Marvel meetings came up and DuVernay went into detail about why she decided to not take the project.
“For me, it was a process of trying to figure out, are these people I want to go to bed with? Because it’s really a marriage, and for this it would be three years,” DuVernay said of the intense commitment Marvel films tend to put on their creative teams. “It’d be three years of not doing other things that are important to me. So it was a question of, is this important enough for me to do?”
And while she was intrigued by the cultural impact the film would have, especially with a black superhero at the helm, she also went on to explain that “everyone is interested in different things.”
These kinds of talks aren’t uncommon — Alan Taylor recently shared his frustration about working with a big studio like Marvel, and DuVernay has openly admitted that the film she would have wanted to make would have been different than what the studio wanted. But for DuVernay, the most important thing was being able to stay true to the work she wanted to create (she also said she plans to see Black Panther when it’s released).
“This is my art. This is what will live on after I’m gone,” she said. “So it’s important to me that that be true to who I was in this moment. And if there’s too much compromise, it really wasn’t going to be an Ava DuVernay film.”
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