Damon Dash Breakfastclub interview

I really enjoyed the interview, dude is super arrogant, but I like people like that. :dunno:

I think he is wrong for clowning people who don't want to own a business or be the boss.
That responsibility is not for everyone. Some people want to get up everyday, go to work,
make a decent living and enjoy their family. There is nothing wrong with that. There is
also nothing wrong with making good money working for a company doing what you enjoy.
His rant toward envy was off the mark in my opinion.

Having said that I have a new respect for this crazy Mofo :cheers:


HNIC

100% Agreed. Besides the everyone being a boss concept can never work. You can't have any employees if everybody is too busy being bosses. And there's far too many people in the world now for everything to work on a trade/barter system. I feel like he's a powerful dude. But honestly, I feel like the only bosses are people living completely off grid. Sell off everything, buy what supplies you need to make the supplies you'll need to survive. After which, you collect your own water, kill and/or grow your own food. And depend on no one else for anything. That's real #BossStatus :yes:
 
He said what he said.

Dame is not his "own boss". Is he subject to the rules and laws of the nation state called "Amerikkka"? If he is then, he is not his "own boss".

Context is still racism/white supremacy!
 
DJ envy should have asked that dumb ass if his mother had a job. And were is all this deep hustle game when you cant even meep teeth in your mouth. Pause. Lol. It is astonishing that people think that stupid shit this moron said is a gem. All u Dame supporters go send Creflo Dollar some money s9 he cqn cop that jet. Lol. Didnt nobody ask that dum nigga for no lecture on not having a job. He cant get one cause he has talked all that shit and now no will give him the time of day without jay z.
 
And yeah, Dame's position on being his own boss in that no one cuts him a check is, from my opinion, a very narrow perspective of the whole picture. What about the people that print your money? what about the people that define your money? what about the people that implemenent fiscal policies? what about the people that build the plane that you use to travel overseas? what about the people that bank your money and determine its interest rate?

Dame needs to rethink his position of being his "own boss". Can't be that, especially within the context of racism/white supremacy.

The focus should be the whole context and not just about being employed or self employed.

:hmm:
 
why is this nigga still relevant???? who gives a fuck about what he says or thinks???? only an idiot would give a fuck!
 
Did anyone notice in the interview Charlemagne took him off the subject of jay-z and asked him about business this fool went back to talking about to and then went to rambling and trying to verbally bully envy with insults. This niggas is tight cause he broke and trying to cover it up with bullying. Dame Dummy. Lol . Actually go back and watch how this conversation develops. Real power brokers in the industry used to and still laugh in his face at that halem act. Lyor would piss all over him. Steve Stoute too. He got away with tough act with certain people because they wanted an access to Jay-Z.
 
peace

100% Agreed. Besides the everyone being a boss concept can never work. You can't have any employees if everybody is too busy being bosses. And there's far too many people in the world now for everything to work on a trade/barter system. I feel like he's a powerful dude. But honestly, I feel like the only bosses are people living completely off grid. Sell off everything, buy what supplies you need to make the supplies you'll need to survive. After which, you collect your own water, kill and/or grow your own food. And depend on no one else for anything. That's real #BossStatus :yes:



 
DR BOYCE take!!:yes::yes:
i have my moments with Dr Boyce's bs but i totally C/S him on this video..
WHITE AMERICA DONT LIKE , GET IT IN UR HEAD!!,
STOP BEGGING !,STOP ASKING!
U CANT PASS ON A JOB TO UR SON!

YES, NOT EVERYONE WILL BE A BOSS BUT FOR THOSE WHO HEARS THIS INTERVIEW AND GETS INSPIRED, THEN ITS BEEN WORTH IT!!

i dont understand in this Damon dash thread so many bruhs were on him so hard, but in reality he aint no different from From Mark "arrogant" Cuban but cuban is seen as genious and dash as an asshole! i have my days with dash too but that interview was revolutionary in my estimation, he is saying GO FOR BROKE!! ALL OR NOTHING!! thats been my M.O. my whole life, im not judging his past but this particular ONE INTERVIEW and its one of the dopest shit!
 
Alright, I have taken a couple of days to digest this thread.

Let's start with who it's about.

Dame Dash is an African in America, that is insecure, brash, and from Harlem, BUT, assertive, aggressive, and intelligent.

Bottom line, he is human.

Yeah, on paper, he looks like sh!t...but so did Donald Trump in the 70's, 80's and 90's WITH a rich dad AND other people's money.:hmm:

The advice he is offering is from his OWN experience, and even though I do not always agree with his delivery, it does not negate that he is tellin' the muthaf*ckin' truth about us, about looking to work a job rather than create opportunites for our family and jobs for others.

Now, this is one of the few threads that went WAAAAAAAAAY left, but for the better. We got to discussing being a "boss," rampant employee mentality in our community, and group economics. Let me shed light on this for a moment.

First of all, white people talking about entrepreneurship to me, means nothing at this point in my mental development, it's fraud. These mofos made it of a string of artificial advantages and never want to use their own talents or own money, but leech off of every one else and call sh!t original. They are ONLY in it to make money and if others benefit, it is a symptom or a by product, not intentional, so f*cking what?!

That's not sustainable.:hmm:

When you study Africa, especially Ethiopia, Nubia, Kemet, and Egypt, from my research, there was a high concentration of "bosses," but not in the Western and hip hop-erized concept many of us are seeing it.

You had orators, master teachers, and philosophers.
You had holistic practitioners, for the mind, spirit and body.
You had astronomers, astrologers, and mathmeticians.
You had metalurgists, brick masons, carpenters, plumbers, and blacksmiths.
And you can't have any civilization without people who can farm, and according to my research EVERYBODY had the skill of farming and a skill IN ADDITION to that.

These are all bosses. Everyone had a gift OR "procured" a gift into a SKILL or a TRADE.
So, none of us Africans in America can do these and make business out of them? Not to mention technological advances in every vertical has created evolving skills and trades.:dunno:

In closing, I want to give a shout out to VICOUS and GAMETHEORY on group economics inclusion. The latest buzz is that we are ""40 million" strong and we have over "a trillion in buying power" and we spend a fraction of that sh!t in the community...A FRACTION!

It is unrealistic for us to shoot for converting the entire trillion. We have been to pschologically damaged for that to happen in our lifetime, unless there just continues to be a MAJOR AWAKENING.

However, if we simply could rotate TEN to TWENTY FIVE percent of that trillion into our community, we will have data for our brothers and sisters who are completely brainwashed that the white man's ice is colder.:smh:

And Dame was right for talking to the entire shows cast the way he did because Envy was in the game BEFORE Dame and Dame was not asking him to be "him," but wonders why he does not have enough knowledge and/or confidence in his BRAND to strike out on his own. It would have been impractical when they first started, but with the internet and satellite radio, Dame was right, ain't no excuses no more.

Think like a partner, hire a manager if you need to, but CONTROL YOUR BRAND! The Breakfast Club is a brand, but they can replace them ninjas while I am typing this sentence. When you have a true reach, that ain't livin'.:smh:

His ego and arrogance is what had made him but it has been his down fall.
Yeah, it's his blessing and his curse.
I actually felt Dame on that tho man. 5minutes in and you asking the same ole Jay Z questions. Shit is kind of dismissive of him and very lazy from an interviewers perspective.
Yeah, I agree.

Sure, he will always be connected to Jay but like Dame said it has been 15 years. Even if Dame talked about his handful of successes, it would take up 70 minutes and if he included his failures, you would run over:lol:, but the ninja has no quit in him.:smh:

I work with some of the most incompetent white people you've ever seen in your life and their responsibilities and pay reflect it too...

So that white privilege card doesn't "ALWAYS" have it's privileges....
It shill does.

They got the oppotunity to be incompetent.;)

Yeah, it's just that engrained into the mentality to where it is seamless and you don't even recognize it.
Dame is a moron of epic proportions. No one starts a business in order to make your employees "bosses". I employ almost 50 people I don't want any of them to become my competition. If they do, so be it, but I'm not setting out to make it happen.

People are in business for profit not for helping out their fellow man, once you figure that out you'll understand your place in the world.
Well Drayonis, I hear you and I feel you, but it's a student's job to learn the trade and do their thing. It will always be unique because it is art. Personality tends to have no filter when it comes to art. It's like personality you can see. No two student are alike, so yeah you are not planning competition, but it is the nature of evolving as a teacher and your students evolving as artists.

To your second paragraph, that's white folks, period. The "I want it all" mentality is straight bullsh!t. Profit can be had, while helping your fellow man, simultaneously. Build a business around a need and you have killed two birds with one stone. Its called cooperative economics. We don't need to do what "they" do...that's why were are in the situation we are in now.:dunno:
 
alright, i have taken a couple of days to digest this thread.

Let's start with who it's about.

Dame dash is an african in america, that is insecure, brash, and from harlem, but, assertive, aggressive, and intelligent.

Bottom line, he is human.

Yeah, on paper, he looks like sh!t...but so did donald trump in the 70's, 80's and 90's with a rich dad and other people's money.:hmm:

The advice he is offering is from his own experience, and even though i do not always agree with his delivery, it does not negate that he is tellin' the muthaf*ckin' truth about us, about looking to work a job rather than create opportunites for our family and jobs for others.

Now, this is one of the few threads that went waaaaaaaaay left, but for the better. We got to discussing being a "boss," rampant employee mentality in our community, and group economics. Let me shed light on this for a moment.

First of all, white people talking about entrepreneurship to me, means nothing at this point in my mental development, it's fraud. These mofos made it of a string of artificial advantages and never want to use their own talents or own money, but leech off of every one else and call sh!t original. They are only in it to make money and if others benefit, it is a symptom or a by product, not intentional, so f*cking what?!

That's not sustainable.:hmm:

When you study africa, especially ethiopia, nubia, kemet, and egypt, from my research, there was a high concentration of "bosses," but not in the western and hip hop-erized concept many of us are seeing it.

You had orators, master teachers, and philosophers.
You had holistic practitioners, for the mind, spirit and body.
You had astronomers, astrologers, and mathmeticians.
You had metalurgists, brick masons, carpenters, plumbers, and blacksmiths.
And you can't have any civilization without people who can farm, and according to my research everybody had the skill of farming and a skill in addition to that.

These are all bosses. Everyone had a gift or "procured" a gift into a skill or a trade.
So, none of us africans in america can do these and make business out of them? Not to mention technological advances in every vertical has created evolving skills and trades.:dunno:

In closing, i want to give a shout out to vicous and gametheory on group economics inclusion. The latest buzz is that we are ""40 million" strong and we have over "a trillion in buying power" and we spend a fraction of that sh!t in the community...a fraction!

It is unrealistic for us to shoot for converting the entire trillion. We have been to pschologically damaged for that to happen in our lifetime, unless there just continues to be a major awakening.

However, if we simply could rotate ten to twenty five percent of that trillion into our community, we will have data for our brothers and sisters who are completely brainwashed that the white man's ice is colder.:smh:

And dame was right for talking to the entire shows cast the way he did because envy was in the game before dame and dame was not asking him to be "him," but wonders why he does not have enough knowledge and/or confidence in his brand to strike out on his own. It would have been impractical when they first started, but with the internet and satellite radio, dame was right, ain't no excuses no more.

Think like a partner, hire a manager if you need to, but control your brand! The breakfast club is a brand, but they can replace them ninjas while i am typing this sentence. When you have a true reach, that ain't livin'.:smh:


Yeah, it's his blessing and his curse.

Yeah, i agree.

Sure, he will always be connected to jay but like dame said it has been 15 years. Even if dame talked about his handful of successes, it would take up 70 minutes and if he included his failures, you would run over:lol:, but the ninja has no quit in him.:smh:


It shill does.

They got the oppotunity to be incompetent.;)

yeah, it's just that engrained into the mentality to where it is seamless and you don't even recognize it.

Well drayonis, i hear you and i feel you, but it's a student's job to learn the trade and do their thing. It will always be unique because it is art. Personality tends to have no filter when it comes to art. It's like personality you can see. No two student are alike, so yeah you are not planning competition, but it is the nature of evolving as a teacher and your students evolving as artists.

To your second paragraph, that's white folks, period. The "i want it all" mentality is straight bullsh!t. Profit can be had, while helping your fellow man, simultaneously. Build a business around a need and you have killed two birds with one stone. Its called cooperative economics. We don't need to do what "they" do...that's why were are in the situation we are in now.:dunno:


boom!!!!
 
Alright, I have taken a couple of days to digest this thread.

Let's start with who it's about.

Dame Dash is an African in America, that is insecure, brash, and from Harlem, BUT, assertive, aggressive, and intelligent.

Bottom line, he is human.

Yeah, on paper, he looks like sh!t...but so did Donald Trump in the 70's, 80's and 90's WITH a rich dad AND other people's money.:hmm:

The advice he is offering is from his OWN experience, and even though I do not always agree with his delivery, it does not negate that he is tellin' the muthaf*ckin' truth about us, about looking to work a job rather than create opportunites for our family and jobs for others.

Now, this is one of the few threads that went WAAAAAAAAAY left, but for the better. We got to discussing being a "boss," rampant employee mentality in our community, and group economics. Let me shed light on this for a moment.

First of all, white people talking about entrepreneurship to me, means nothing at this point in my mental development, it's fraud. These mofos made it of a string of artificial advantages and never want to use their own talents or own money, but leech off of every one else and call sh!t original. They are ONLY in it to make money and if others benefit, it is a symptom or a by product, not intentional, so f*cking what?!

That's not sustainable.:hmm:

When you study Africa, especially Ethiopia, Nubia, Kemet, and Egypt, from my research, there was a high concentration of "bosses," but not in the Western and hip hop-erized concept many of us are seeing it.

You had orators, master teachers, and philosophers.
You had holistic practitioners, for the mind, spirit and body.
You had astronomers, astrologers, and mathmeticians.
You had metalurgists, brick masons, carpenters, plumbers, and blacksmiths.
And you can't have any civilization without people who can farm, and according to my research EVERYBODY had the skill of farming and a skill IN ADDITION to that.

These are all bosses. Everyone had a gift OR "procured" a gift into a SKILL or a TRADE.
So, none of us Africans in America can do these and make business out of them? Not to mention technological advances in every vertical has created evolving skills and trades.:dunno:

In closing, I want to give a shout out to VICOUS and GAMETHEORY on group economics inclusion. The latest buzz is that we are ""40 million" strong and we have over "a trillion in buying power" and we spend a fraction of that sh!t in the community...A FRACTION!

It is unrealistic for us to shoot for converting the entire trillion. We have been to pschologically damaged for that to happen in our lifetime, unless there just continues to be a MAJOR AWAKENING.

However, if we simply could rotate TEN to TWENTY FIVE percent of that trillion into our community, we will have data for our brothers and sisters who are completely brainwashed that the white man's ice is colder.:smh:

And Dame was right for talking to the entire shows cast the way he did because Envy was in the game BEFORE Dame and Dame was not asking him to be "him," but wonders why he does not have enough knowledge and/or confidence in his BRAND to strike out on his own. It would have been impractical when they first started, but with the internet and satellite radio, Dame was right, ain't no excuses no more.

Think like a partner, hire a manager if you need to, but CONTROL YOUR BRAND! The Breakfast Club is a brand, but they can replace them ninjas while I am typing this sentence. When you have a true reach, that ain't livin'.:smh:


Yeah, it's his blessing and his curse.

Yeah, I agree.

Sure, he will always be connected to Jay but like Dame said it has been 15 years. Even if Dame talked about his handful of successes, it would take up 70 minutes and if he included his failures, you would run over:lol:, but the ninja has no quit in him.:smh:


It shill does.

They got the oppotunity to be incompetent.;)

Yeah, it's just that engrained into the mentality to where it is seamless and you don't even recognize it.

Well Drayonis, I hear you and I feel you, but it's a student's job to learn the trade and do their thing. It will always be unique because it is art. Personality tends to have no filter when it comes to art. It's like personality you can see. No two student are alike, so yeah you are not planning competition, but it is the nature of evolving as a teacher and your students evolving as artists.

To your second paragraph, that's white folks, period. The "I want it all" mentality is straight bullsh!t. Profit can be had, while helping your fellow man, simultaneously. Build a business around a need and you have killed two birds with one stone. Its called cooperative economics. We don't need to do what "they" do...that's why were are in the situation we are in now.:dunno:

Great post! :cool: :yes:
 
So many blacks in a America especially those here who are spending more time looking and talking about Dames flaws instead of the message he was talking about (Black group economics) have forgotten a very simple fact that since African Americans were sent in chains to the shores of America, their brain power, labour, skills, talent and wealth have been taken, given and spent toward building and adding to the civilization of another people.

Its true not everyone can be a boss but what OR can run a business but we can employ each other, we can work for ourselves we can become partners in our companies...hell we can always go an buy out white businesses and all that.

I will repeat, sometimes I feel like Slavery robbed African Americans that old age cultural savings tradition which they could practice on a mass level. If you go to the Koreans you will find them practising the "GAE" and if you come to us in East Africa we often practise UJIMA and UJAMAA in Tanzania, while SUSU among West Africans while our brothers in Jamaica often practice PARTNERS among them while in Ethiopian/Eriteans brothers practice EKUOUB among themselves, the Chinese have HUI while the Japanese have KENJIKAI...all which they channel pools of savings into an essential and integral economic activities such as investment and charity.

Truth is Black Americans, unfortunately never had and do not have an informal cultural tradition to build upon like the ones I mentioned above, which pretty much have same goals which reinforce the importance of savings and investments as well as connect wage earners,families, whole neighborhoods and business networks. Once black people in America realise that then the rest will be easy.

Love him or hate him but Dame sure made us have a debate and I know some elements on this forum are quite annoyed with blackfolks having such discussion.
 
So many blacks in a America especially those here who are spending more time looking and talking about Dames flaws instead of the message he was talking about (Black group economics) have forgotten a very simple fact that since African Americans were sent in chains to the shores of America, their brain power, labour, skills, talent and wealth have been taken, given and spent toward building and adding to the civilization of another people.

Its true not everyone can be a boss but what OR can run a business but we can employ each other, we can work for ourselves we can become partners in our companies...hell we can always go an buy out white businesses and all that.

I will repeat, sometimes I feel like Slavery robbed African Americans that old age cultural savings tradition which they could practice on a mass level. If you go to the Koreans you will find them practising the "GAE" and if you come to us in East Africa we often practise UJIMA and UJAMAA in Tanzania, while SUSU among West Africans while our brothers in Jamaica often practice PARTNERS among them while in Ethiopian/Eriteans brothers practice EKUOUB among themselves, the Chinese have HUI while the Japanese have KENJIKAI...all which they channel pools of savings into an essential and integral economic activities such as investment and charity.

Truth is Black Americans, unfortunately never had and do not have an informal cultural tradition to build upon like the ones I mentioned above, which pretty much have same goals which reinforce the importance of savings and investments as well as connect wage earners,families, whole neighborhoods and business networks. Once black people in America realise that then the rest will be easy.

Love him or hate him but Dame sure made us have a debate and I know some elements on this forum are quite annoyed with blackfolks having such discussion.

Where do you live?
 
dame said he want nigs to progress and step their standards up and a bunch of scary nigs who like to stay in 1 place and don't want to upgrade their lives celebrate his failures in this thread..summary of thread
 
So many blacks in a America especially those here who are spending more time looking and talking about Dames flaws instead of the message he was talking about (Black group economics) have forgotten a very simple fact that since African Americans were sent in chains to the shores of America, their brain power, labour, skills, talent and wealth have been taken, given and spent toward building and adding to the civilization of another people.

Its true not everyone can be a boss but what OR can run a business but we can employ each other, we can work for ourselves we can become partners in our companies...hell we can always go an buy out white businesses and all that.

I will repeat, sometimes I feel like Slavery robbed African Americans that old age cultural savings tradition which they could practice on a mass level. If you go to the Koreans you will find them practising the "GAE" and if you come to us in East Africa we often practise UJIMA and UJAMAA in Tanzania, while SUSU among West Africans while our brothers in Jamaica often practice PARTNERS among them while in Ethiopian/Eriteans brothers practice EKUOUB among themselves, the Chinese have HUI while the Japanese have KENJIKAI...all which they channel pools of savings into an essential and integral economic activities such as investment and charity.

Truth is Black Americans, unfortunately never had and do not have an informal cultural tradition to build upon like the ones I mentioned above, which pretty much have same goals which reinforce the importance of savings and investments as well as connect wage earners,families, whole neighborhoods and business networks. Once black people in America realise that then the rest will be easy.

Love him or hate him but Dame sure made us have a debate and I know some elements on this forum are quite annoyed with blackfolks having such discussion.

:yes::yes::yes:
 
So many blacks in a America especially those here who are spending more time looking and talking about Dames flaws instead of the message he was talking about (Black group economics) have forgotten a very simple fact that since African Americans were sent in chains to the shores of America, their brain power, labour, skills, talent and wealth have been taken, given and spent toward building and adding to the civilization of another people.

Its true not everyone can be a boss but what OR can run a business but we can employ each other, we can work for ourselves we can become partners in our companies...hell we can always go an buy out white businesses and all that.

I will repeat, sometimes I feel like Slavery robbed African Americans that old age cultural savings tradition which they could practice on a mass level. If you go to the Koreans you will find them practising the "GAE" and if you come to us in East Africa we often practise UJIMA and UJAMAA in Tanzania, while SUSU among West Africans while our brothers in Jamaica often practice PARTNERS among them while in Ethiopian/Eriteans brothers practice EKUOUB among themselves, the Chinese have HUI while the Japanese have KENJIKAI...all which they channel pools of savings into an essential and integral economic activities such as investment and charity.

Truth is Black Americans, unfortunately never had and do not have an informal cultural tradition to build upon like the ones I mentioned above, which pretty much have same goals which reinforce the importance of savings and investments as well as connect wage earners,families, whole neighborhoods and business networks. Once black people in America realise that then the rest will be easy.

Love him or hate him but Dame sure made us have a debate and I know some elements on this forum are quite annoyed with blackfolks having such discussion.

group economics is one thing..telling a man he's not a man and a loser for not having the same aspirations as him is another. It shows his immaturity at least in that regard.

and as far as group economics is concerned him, puffy, irv gotti, suge, master p were all there making hip hop go mainstream and at no point did it occur to them to band together to control the music they were creating and promoting. they ALL took deals to be boutique labels on the white mans conglomerate. Remember when he asked Vlad to partner and that cac turned him down to his face on camera.. You don't conduct business like that.. Dame is great hustler and good business instincts but he has a tendency to apply street mentality to the boardroom and thats why people don't want to fuck with him after a while..pause.:hmm:
 
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dame said he want nigs to progress and step their standards up and a bunch of scary nigs who like to stay in 1 place and don't want to upgrade their lives celebrate his failures in this thread..summary of thread

You sound as ignorant as Dame with this comment. Lol....you just summed up a one hour interview and a 9 page thread in one sentence. C'mon son.
 
Where do you live?
Worthless piece of shit limey with US dick envy. Same misinformed asswipe who accused black americans of being obsessed with greek culture despite having a near 95% non participation rate. Hes like a muthafucka from texas calling himself a expert on Japanese culture because he eats sushi. Fucking clown.
 
group economics is one thing..telling a man he's not a man and a loser for not having the same aspirations as him is another. It shows his immaturity at least in that regard.

And as far as group economics is concerned him, puffy, irv gotti, suge, master p were all there making hip hop go mainstream and at no point did it occur to them to band together to control the music they were creating and promoting. They all took deals to be boutique labels on the white mans conglomerate. Remember when he asked vlad to partner and that cac turned him down to his face on camera.. You don't conduct business like that.. Dame is great hustler and good business instincts but he has a tendency to apply street mentality to the boardroom and thats why people don't want to fuck with him after a while..pause.:hmm:

this isnt a time to play nice! This is black liberation time !
Lay down and get rolled over!
Group economics, business minds are what is needed, weak minds who want to be babied will not make it independently,
they will continue to be slaves , just well off slaves,
true black kingship like us will rise and create the next new kings,

remember this........
When the jews were taking theirs they werent nice,
when the european were taking theirs they werent nice ,
but u want my people to play nice and polite until kingdom comes to liberate ourselves,
freedom has price and its price tag isnt polite!!
 
You sound as ignorant as Dame with this comment. Lol....you just summed up a one hour interview and a 9 page thread in one sentence. C'mon son.

u said i sound ignorant as dame which means u clearly couldn't comprehend everything he said in that 1 hr interview.. notice mostly the dudes with their own bizzness or strive to progress picked up on some of his good points in his rant.. while a lot of other hated his comments mostly because he made some remarks to 9-5 workers and 9-5 living.. that's the real animosity towards him in this thread.. i'll be the first to say dame is an asshole cause i've personally met him, been around him, and kno people that dealt with him but when a dude makes a good point sometime u have to give him credit
 
this isnt a time to play nice! This is black liberation time !
Lay down and get rolled over!
Group economics, business minds are what is needed, weak minds who want to be babied will not make it independently,
they will continue to be slaves , just well off slaves,
true black kingship like us will rise and create the next new kings,

remember this........
When the jews were taking theirs they werent nice,
when the european were taking theirs they werent nice ,
but u want my people to play nice and polite until kingdom comes to liberate ourselves,
freedom has price and its price tag isnt polite!!

the price tag is war and death..not name calling and shouting and cussing. you take shit and defend shit by killing for it...thats the difference.

It isn't about what are you willing to die for..its about what are you willing to kill for and I mean that literally.
 
How can you look at anything he said as inspiration when all he did was demean and denigrate 3 working class successful black people.

Folks like him and a lot of you on the board promote that on your own philosophy and your wrong as shit. Just because you can cook doesn't mean you know how to run a restaurant. To run a business, a successful business you need to know how to do more than the work and run your mouth about it.

Nobody is celebrating his failures, his failures shed light on his business acumen or lack thereof. His credibility is diminished when he doesn't have a successful business to point to.

He should welcome conversations about Jay Z because without Jay's music success, which the coattails Dame was riding on, how successful or relevant would he really be?

Do you hear Samuel Jackson complain or nut up when he is asked about working with Spike Lee 25 years ago?

Saving is for suckers should tell you all you need to know about this fool. He has no idea what a p/l statement or an income statement is. If he did he would know with out cash on hand (savings) you can't grow or maintain a business. All he is doing is playing a shell game with debt.

Real talk right here. If you gotta shit on successful hard working people who happen to have jobs just to bolster your position or lack thereof....then something is wrong with YOU!

Talking to people like they're nothing than talking about group economics solves nothing. No one wants to partner with anyone who demeans them. Who is he to send for Spike Lee as opposed to approaching that man directly? HE is the one who wants to collab....Spike ain't checking for him. As if shit is supposed to fall in his lap.
 
How can you look at anything he said as inspiration when all he did was demean and denigrate 3 working class successful black people.

Folks like him and a lot of you on the board promote that on your own philosophy and your wrong as shit. Just because you can cook doesn't mean you know how to run a restaurant. To run a business, a successful business you need to know how to do more than the work and run your mouth about it.

Nobody is celebrating his failures, his failures shed light on his business acumen or lack thereof. His credibility is diminished when he doesn't have a successful business to point to.

He should welcome conversations about Jay Z because without Jay's music success, which the coattails Dame was riding on, how successful or relevant would he really be?

Do you hear Samuel Jackson complain or nut up when he is asked about working with Spike Lee 25 years ago?

Saving is for suckers should tell you all you need to know about this fool. He has no idea what a p/l statement or an income statement is. If he did he would know with out cash on hand (savings) you can't grow or maintain a business. All he is doing is playing a shell game with debt.

making money off of food dosen't mean u have to own a restaurant there's many ways to make money selling food.. hell i'll give u a perfect example of a true story on that subject.. i had a situation where i knew a person that knew how to cook their ass off.. i personally could've put them in a position where they could set up shop at a location and make about 400 dollars in a few hrs about 3-4 times a week tax free.. all they had to do is cook their food bring it at the location and people would literally have money in hand waiting to buy the food..3-4 times a week came up to 1200-1600 a week tax free.. the person still made a 1000 excuses why not to jump on that situation.. that person was so used to working for somebody that they was scared to progess and step up their situation even when it was no chance of failure and money wise would've been way better.. this is 1 of the points dame was trying to make why be comfortable in a situation when if u step out of it u could completely upgrade ur life
 
making money off of food dosen't mean u have to own a restaurant there's many ways to make money selling food.. hell i'll give u a perfect example of a true story on that subject.. i had a situation where i knew a person that knew how to cook their ass off.. i personally could've put them in a position where they could set up shop at a location and make about 400 dollars in a few hrs about 3-4 times a week tax free.. all they had to do is cook their food bring it at the location and people would literally have money in hand waiting to buy the food..3-4 times a week came up to 1200-1600 a week tax free.. the person still made a 1000 excuses why not to jump on that situation.. that person was so used to working for somebody that they was scared to progess and step up their situation even when it was no chance of failure and money wise would've been way better.. this is 1 of the points dame was trying to make why be comfortable in a situation when if u step out of it u could completely upgrade ur life

just because a person can play a trumpet doesn't mean they want to be dizzy gillespie and head up a band...some people are more comfortable being in the horn section. Should have to be a judgment of fear. Busta Rhymes didn't WANT to be a solo act circumstance made that happen and even in that it took him a few YEARS to figure it out meanwhile he guested on everyones shit.. according to Dash logic Busta was a sucka all that time..:smh:
 
So many blacks in a America especially those here who are spending more time looking and talking about Dames flaws instead of the message he was talking about (Black group economics) have forgotten a very simple fact that since African Americans were sent in chains to the shores of America, their brain power, labour, skills, talent and wealth have been taken, given and spent toward building and adding to the civilization of another people.

Its true not everyone can be a boss but what OR can run a business but we can employ each other, we can work for ourselves we can become partners in our companies...hell we can always go an buy out white businesses and all that.

I will repeat, sometimes I feel like Slavery robbed African Americans that old age cultural savings tradition which they could practice on a mass level. If you go to the Koreans you will find them practising the "GAE" and if you come to us in East Africa we often practise UJIMA and UJAMAA in Tanzania, while SUSU among West Africans while our brothers in Jamaica often practice PARTNERS among them while in Ethiopian/Eriteans brothers practice EKUOUB among themselves, the Chinese have HUI while the Japanese have KENJIKAI...all which they channel pools of savings into an essential and integral economic activities such as investment and charity.

Truth is Black Americans, unfortunately never had and do not have an informal cultural tradition to build upon like the ones I mentioned above, which pretty much have same goals which reinforce the importance of savings and investments as well as connect wage earners,families, whole neighborhoods and business networks. Once black people in America realise that then the rest will be easy.

Love him or hate him but Dame sure made us have a debate and I know some elements on this forum are quite annoyed with blackfolks having such discussion.

Bruh, respect to Mr. Nyerere, but all that so called "group economics" does not hold up within a global system of racism/white supremacy. Seen and have many Tanzanian friends come over to Amerikkka and Babylon Europe to ask white folks for help. American Americans are in the same position as Africans. Why? because the system of oppression and subjugation is global.

:hmm:
 
100% Agreed. Besides the everyone being a boss concept can never work. You can't have any employees if everybody is too busy being bosses. And there's far too many people in the world now for everything to work on a trade/barter system. I feel like he's a powerful dude. But honestly, I feel like the only bosses are people living completely off grid. Sell off everything, buy what supplies you need to make the supplies you'll need to survive. After which, you collect your own water, kill and/or grow your own food. And depend on no one else for anything. That's real #BossStatus :yes:
You, sir, get it.

The next level is Living Off the Grid, which is all indigenous people do anyway, which white people have now adopted...like it's something new.

I mean the way they think, in relation to nature, is absolutely IN-SANE!:confused:
And yeah, Dame's position on being his own boss in that no one cuts him a check is, from my opinion, a very narrow perspective of the whole picture. What about the people that print your money? what about the people that define your money? what about the people that implemenent fiscal policies? what about the people that build the plane that you use to travel overseas? what about the people that bank your money and determine its interest rate?

Dame needs to rethink his position of being his "own boss". Can't be that, especially within the context of racism/white supremacy.

The focus should be the whole context and not just about being employed or self employed.

:hmm:
You know what, I never had a problem with you answering each question with "context of racism/white supremacy, but you broke it down so real in this example.

I don't think we, even those of us that are conscious, truly understand when we first become aware how racism/white supremacy touches such benign and inocuous parts of our lives, especially as black men.

This was a great drop.:yes:
DR BOYCE take!!:yes::yes:
i have my moments with Dr Boyce's bs but i totally C/S him on this video..
WHITE AMERICA DONT LIKE , GET IT IN UR HEAD!!,
STOP BEGGING !,STOP ASKING!
U CANT PASS ON A JOB TO UR SON!

YES, NOT EVERYONE WILL BE A BOSS BUT FOR THOSE WHO HEARS THIS INTERVIEW AND GETS INSPIRED, THEN ITS BEEN WORTH IT!!

i dont understand in this Damon dash thread so many bruhs were on him so hard, but in reality he aint no different from From Mark "arrogant" Cuban but cuban is seen as genious and dash as an asshole! i have my days with dash too but that interview was revolutionary in my estimation, he is saying GO FOR BROKE!! ALL OR NOTHING!! thats been my M.O. my whole life, im not judging his past but this particular ONE INTERVIEW and its one of the dopest shit!
From the 12 minute mark ON, Boyce spilled straight ETHER on that ass.:itsawrap:
this isnt a time to play nice! This is black liberation time !
Lay down and get rolled over!
Group economics, business minds are what is needed, weak minds who want to be babied will not make it independently,
they will continue to be slaves , just well off slaves,
true black kingship like us will rise and create the next new kings,

remember this........
When the jews were taking theirs they werent nice,
when the european were taking theirs they werent nice ,
but u want my people to play nice and polite until kingdom comes to liberate ourselves,
freedom has price and its price tag isnt polite!!
You're right...a lot of us just...don't...get it.:dunno:
How can you look at anything he said as inspiration when all he did was demean and denigrate 3 working class successful black people.

Folks like him and a lot of you on the board promote that on your own philosophy and your wrong as shit. Just because you can cook doesn't mean you know how to run a restaurant. To run a business, a successful business you need to know how to do more than the work and run your mouth about it.

Nobody is celebrating his failures, his failures shed light on his business acumen or lack thereof. His credibility is diminished when he doesn't have a successful business to point to.

He should welcome conversations about Jay Z because without Jay's music success, which the coattails Dame was riding on, how successful or relevant would he really be?

Do you hear Samuel Jackson complain or nut up when he is asked about working with Spike Lee 25 years ago?

Saving is for suckers should tell you all you need to know about this fool. He has no idea what a p/l statement or an income statement is. If he did he would know with out cash on hand (savings) you can't grow or maintain a business. All he is doing is playing a shell game with debt.
Think on a higher vibration.

Cooking is the cooks lane. Alright, that is established. Now, you have to partner...practice group economics. Find someone that fits in the accountant lane. Find someone that fits into the attorney lane. Find someone that consults on how to locate and brand how to open and run a restaurant.

Is it easy? No. Is it simple? Yes...if you want it to be.

The sh!ts just mindset, Fam.
 
You, sir, get it.

The next level is Living Off the Grid, which is all indigenous people do anyway, which white people have now adopted...like it's something new.

I mean the way they think, in relation to nature, is absolutely IN-SANE!:confused:

You know what, I never had a problem with you answering each question with "context of racism/white supremacy, but you broke it down so real in this example.

I don't think we, even those of us that are conscious, truly understand when we first become aware how racism/white supremacy touches such benign and inocuous parts of our lives, especially as black men.

This was a great drop.:yes:

From the 12 minute mark ON, Boyce spilled straight ETHER on that ass.:itsawrap:

You're right...a lot of us just...don't...get it.:dunno:

Think on a higher vibration.

Cooking is the cooks lane. Alright, that is established. Now, you have to partner...practice group economics. Find someone that fits in the accountant lane. Find someone that fits into the attorney lane. Find someone that consults on how to locate and brand how to open and run a restaurant.

Is it easy? No. Is it simple? Yes...if you want it to be.

The sh!ts just mindset, Fam.

Bruh, many questions can be asked of Dame Dash and y'all will realize that he is looking at things from a narrow perspective. The reality is that, as black people, if you even want to be your own president with your own country, you first have to address white people. Ask all the delegates that have a seat at the so called UN. White folks have to first approve of you for you to be a member of the UN. Why did most African countries join the UN? Because without the UN you are in a venerable position as a black president and with your own country while trying to be your "own boss".

Dame said what he said.

But its not that simple and no black person, Even Mr Obama, is his or her own boss within the context of racism/white supremacy.

Damn, even some of us do not grow our own food or bake our own bread. There are many levels to being a boss and not just cutting checks.

:hmm:
 
just because a person can play a trumpet doesn't mean they want to be dizzy gillespie and head up a band...some people are more comfortable being in the horn section. Should have to be a judgment of fear. Busta Rhymes didn't WANT to be a solo act circumstance made that happen and even in that it took him a few YEARS to figure it out meanwhile he guested on everyones shit.. according to Dash logic Busta was a sucka all that time..:smh:
that's cool the person i offered that opportunity to end up losing their comfortable job that they was making way less money at and working more hrs/days..that same person has been unemployed since than and is in a fucked up situation meanwhile the person who took me up on that opportunity is happy as fuck not only making all that consistant tax free money but all the spinoff gigs he got from that situation i provided.. u see that was 1 of dame's other points was how can u get so comfortable in a position that at anytime u can get fired.. thru his rant i understood some of his points cause some of them i to think about
 
dame said he want nigs to progress and step their standards up and a bunch of scary nigs who like to stay in 1 place and don't want to upgrade their lives celebrate his failures in this thread..summary of thread

I've said it before and I'll say it again: you're one of the few realist posters on here. There are so many immature idiots or "agents" that love to focus on petty shit. Divert attention away from the real issue. I'd love to believe a lot of so called "brothers" on here are really white agents but I've come to accept that celebrating another person's failure in pervasive amongst a lot of black folk.

When MC Hammer went broke, he became a running punchline. Yet a lot of people seem to overlook he went broke trying to help a lot of his people out of the hood. People overlook he had a black wife, black children and was creating jobs for black people. But I guess it's easier to shit on him. Even Ice Cube was out of line to go at him because look at Ice Cube now? The hypocrisy is staggering sometimes.

People in here have tried to move the topic to the wider context of black economics but fools on here want to focus on how "broke" Dame is. I find that interesting. Rather than focus on why we are the only group who don't practice group economics on a larger scale, idiots on here want to make excuses.

I make sure that at least 90% of my disposable income goes towards black owned businesses. It's not easy but I try. I make sure I always go above and beyond to tip black businesses. I look for opportunities to expand with other black bussinesses. That's all I'm focused on.

If you have a black community but hardly any of the businesses in that area are owned by black people, it's going to go straight into the hands of people who despise us. Imagine as a black person, you can wake up and buy your breakfast from a black owned cafe. Then catch a cab/bus/train to work by a black owned business. Have your lunch at a black owned restaurant etc etc. I bet if most people in here sat down and look at how much their disposable income goes towards non-black businesses, maybe they'd get off this petty shit.
 
just because a person can play a trumpet doesn't mean they want to be dizzy gillespie and head up a band...some people are more comfortable being in the horn section. Should have to be a judgment of fear. Busta Rhymes didn't WANT to be a solo act circumstance made that happen and even in that it took him a few YEARS to figure it out meanwhile he guested on everyones shit.. according to Dash logic Busta was a sucka all that time..:smh:

This. Ask Ronnie Wood.

But I'm taking what Dame says with caution.

Some months back Kanye was railing against the racist fashion industry.

A unisex fashion show and a few checks later he essentially claims that racism doesn't exist.

One wonders if someone blesses a recently toothless Dame with a few millie if he doesn't change his tune.

I'm kinda skeptical of what black celebs say at this point.

More and more they're proving that in the end they have a price.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again: you're one of the few realist posters on here. There are so many immature idiots or "agents" that love to focus on petty shit. Divert attention away from the real issue. I'd love to believe a lot of so called "brothers" on here are really white agents but I've come to accept that celebrating another person's failure in pervasive amongst a lot of black folk.

When MC Hammer went broke, he became a running punchline. Yet a lot of people seem to overlook he went broke trying to help a lot of his people out of the hood. People overlook he had a black wife, black children and was creating jobs for black people. But I guess it's easier to shit on him. Even Ice Cube was out of line to go at him because look at Ice Cube now? The hypocrisy is staggering sometimes.

People in here have tried to move the topic to the wider context of black economics but fools on here want to focus on how "broke" Dame is. I find that interesting. Rather than focus on why we are the only group who don't practice group economics on a larger scale, idiots on here want to make excuses.

I make sure that at least 90% of my disposable income goes towards black owned businesses. It's not easy but I try. I make sure I always go above and beyond to tip black businesses. I look for opportunities to expand with other black bussinesses. That's all I'm focused on.

If you have a black community but hardly any of the businesses in that area are owned by black people, it's going to go straight into the hands of people who despise us. Imagine as a black person, you can wake up and buy your breakfast from a black owned cafe. Then catch a cab/bus/train to work by a black owned business. Have your lunch at a black owned restaurant etc etc. I bet if most people in here sat down and look at how much their disposable income goes towards non-black businesses, maybe they'd get off this petty shit.

i feel u man i can say that's 1 of the best things about nyc even though this is a jewish run city they're small pockets of various minority bizzness/ small networks in various neighborhoods... afro-americans, west indians, africans, latins, mideastern, asian, etc.. u could go to various areas and see non cac bizzness in them hell some of the chains mite on the low low have a non cac owner.. in my neigborhood i grew up in i was inspired by all these non cac owned bizzness and said fuck it i can own 1 too.. yemen owned bodega, black owned hardware store, black owned liq stores/ eatery/ barber/beauty salon, west indian eatery, chinese eatery, korean cleaners, african owned laundry, african eatery , dominican owned bodega, puerto rican eatery, etc.. it was mad diff non cac bizzness in my area so i was like u don't need cacs to make money or get a job...it was like that in a lot of non cac neighborhoods... hell a nyc legend in my eyes was a hondurian guy who died last yr this guy made icee's and literally rented out a bunch of carts to people to sell his icee's all over nyc.. that shit was/is still huge in nyc for ova the past 3 decades.. to many non cac entrepreneurs that said fuck depending on a paycheck and decided to make money on their own shit like that says fuck that i can do that to.. 10 yr old kids selling candy in train stations or selling water in the street on a hot day if a lil kid understands the concept how and why aren't older people
 
dame said he want nigs to progress and step their standards up and a bunch of scary nigs who like to stay in 1 place and don't want to upgrade their lives celebrate his failures in this thread..summary of thread

100% truth but check this out niggas like get retrospective when the money gone and the access dry up

Fact is who he was at the height of his success he was preaching that progress and stepping up standards.. He was shittin on those that in position or level.. So it's no surprise people are laughing at him now and he being a complete joke.

Dude burned so many bridges to the point everything he touches now turns to complete shit.

Who's fault is that? It's all his fault. Had he been for progress for brothers trying to get in the game and no burning bridges Dame would be 100 times far better off than he is now..

Dude is the definition of Eddie Kane Jr now and it's quiet sad.. Jay wouldn't even piss on the nigga no more... He can't call no one up in the industry

That's the saddest part in all of this so him talking about progress and stepping up standards only shows that now he's for the people climbing up because it serves him to latch onto anyone that's gonna get him to where he needs to be again, the same folk he shitted on and honestly it's too late the people see right through that fake shit he trying preach, shit ain't genuine coming from him
 
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