Boxings Most Overrated Great: Mike Tyson

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

This Dude is celebrated for his career, but for the most part when he fought against real competition or stepped up in class he got fucked up! Once he finished with his bum of the month tour, he lost more often than he won, and lost bad as hell. Against better competition his fights ended like this:

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

You find 1 person that believes in you and guides you to a championship and then have him die and immediately get swept up by snakes in the form of women and a promoter who stole around 9 figures from you and go to jail for a rape charge and see how well you fight

 

[kes1111]

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

You find 1 person that believes in you and guides you to a championship and then have him die and immediately get swept up by snakes in the form of women and a promoter who stole around 9 figures from you and go to jail for a rape charge and see how well you fight

Ok... still doesn't invalidate my points Bruh... In the ring, his accomplishments were overrated.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

 

[34real]

That's your opinion but Mike clearly was in a bad place in his life when he started losing,as a matter of fact he never really was in a good place as far as his life was concern but when he was in a stable place he earned every defeat and everything that was said about him good or bad.

 

[Moore]

Mike was a clean fighter can't say the same for Holyfield.

 

[alexw]

regardless the op is right

this mofo is the most overrated "athlete" in history

he always gets mentioned with the greats but he lost all of his legacy fights badly

but hey he destroyed tomato cans and a weak spinks

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

regardless the op is right

this mofo is the most overrated "athlete" in history

he always gets mentioned with the greats but he lost all of his legacy fights badly

but hey he destroyed tomato cans and a weak spinks

Yep... and I used to really pull for Mike. Damn shame what happened to him but:

He stayed getting fucked up! When he ran out of Peter McNeelys shit went down hill. Plus, he was all crazy and shit against Lou Savarese, but when he got chipped up he was humble as a motherfucker! Danny Williams made his ass sit on the rope, conscious as hell like 'fuck it, this Dude is whipping my ass' and watched the ref count to 10

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

regardless the op is right

this mofo is the most overrated "athlete" in history

he always gets mentioned with the greats but he lost all of his legacy fights badly

but hey he destroyed tomato cans and a weak spinks

his legacy died with gus

everybody knows that

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

After you finish with the meme's, put your fingers on the keys and type some proof that I'm wrong

That's your opinion but Mike clearly was in a bad place in his life when he started losing,as a matter of fact he never really was in a good place as far as his life was concern but when he was in a stable place he earned every defeat and everything that was said about him good or bad.

It's not my opinion, it's a fact. His in ring accomplishments were overrated and he stayed getting his ass whipped! He was in a fucked up place when he beat those tomato cans after he was in jail and his life was in a bad place so again, once he stepped up in competition he got his ass whipped...

Mike was a clean fighter can't say the same for Holyfield.

Not sure what this has to do with Mike being overrated but... thanks for the contribution to the topic Bruh

 

[Flawless]

He is over rated, but I'm sure some cat will post some videos of a young mike Tyson knocking out other amateurs.

 

[TimRock]

This again?

 

[mathtest]

i somewhat reluctantly agree, imo im a fan of the raw natural talent that he possessed, the science of boxing can be boring and he brought a new animal like style to the ring, the speed and power of his punches are unmatched

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

his legacy died with gus

everybody knows that

Ok... I feel you, and the best guy Mike beat before Cus died was Donnie Long.. thus, the topic of this thread Bruh

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

This again?

Yes...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

i somewhat reluctantly agree, imo im a fan of the raw natural talent that he possessed, the science of boxing can be boring and he brought a new animal like style to the ring, the speed and power of his punches are unmatched

Dude, I totally agree with you!! He brought a lot of raw talent and power into the ring, especially against tomato cans! Actually your points further validate his status as an overrated fighter. With all that natural unheard of talent at Heavyweight, its obvious he could have accomplished much more but didn't, regardless of the reasons

 

[Megatron X]

You all hating on Tyson. He clearly could have been the greatest of all time. You forget who and what he was. You forget that he began to fade after he left kevin Rooney and got mixed up with Don King and Robin Givens. He was less technical, less focused, less disciplined, and became more of a brawler. He also was locked up for some years with no training unlike Ali who could still workout. His loss in interest in the sport even made it worse. But, his worse mistake was leaving kevin Rooney. I believe that a prime Mike Tyson would take out a prime Ali.

That war with Holyfield was great but that Tyson was not the same 1985-1988 Tyson. A 1985-1988 Tyson would destroy Lewis, Bowe, Holyfield, Ali, Foreman, Marciano, Frazier, Klitchko, etc. you all just don't want to admit that Tyson was really the best. You hating.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

You all hating on Tyson. He clearly could have been the greatest of all time. You forget who and what he was. You forget that he began to fade after he left kevin Rooney and got mixed up with Don King and Robin Givens. He was less technical and became more of a brawler. He also was locked up for some years with no training unlike Ali who could still workout. His loss in interest in the sport even made it worse. But, his worse mistake was leaving kevin Rooney. I believe that a prime Mike Tyson would take out a prime Ali.

That war with Holyfield was great but that Tyson was not the same 1985-1988 Tyson. A 1985-1988 Tyson would destroy Lewis, Bowe, Holyfield, Ali, Foreman, Marciano, Frazier, Klitchko, etc. you all just don't want to admit that Tyson was really the best. You hating.

Coppin a LOT of pleas Bruh

 

[creepin]

He was less technical, less focused, less disciplined, and became more of a brawler. He also was locked up for some years with no training unlike Ali who could still workout. His loss in interest in the sport even made it worse. But, his worse mistake was leaving Kevin Rooney.
That war with Holyfield was great but that Tyson was not the same 1985-1988 Tyson. A 1985-1988 Tyson would destroy Lewis, Bowe, Holyfield, Marciano, Frazier, Klitchko, etc. you all just don't want to admit that Tyson was really the best. You hating.

^^Truth!
Mike was a disciplined warrior before he became the champ! Rooney had him in shape and his defense was such that Mike was not taking too many hits. Check that footage of '85-'89 Tyson and watch his footwork and defense! Now as far as his body of work, no he would be overrated. For a few years though, HE WAS A BAD MAN! I can't give him but a few of those fighters because Foreman was very powerful and Ali has shown that he adapts well. I would have to see him fight those 2 before I give him those fights!

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

^^Truth!
Mike was a disciplined warrior before he became the champ! Rooney had him in shape and his defense was such that Mike was not taking too many hits. Check that footage of '85-'89 Tyson and watch his footwork and defense! Now as far as his body of work, no he would be overrated. For a few years though, HE WAS A BAD MAN!

85-89 (five years)

What about 90-2005 (minus 3 years for prison) - 12 years

 

[Megatron X]

85-89 (five years)

What about 90-2005 (minus 3 years for prison) - 12 years

You can't count. 90 to 2005 he was still mostly dominant. He only has 6 losses out of like 60 fights.

 

[World B Free]

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now this

 

[big pimp]

This again?

^^^

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

You can't count. 90 to 2005 he was still mostly dominant. He only has 6 losses out of like 60 fights.

I can count Son... and out of those 60 fights, 45 at least were against second tier competition... whenever he stepped up in competition, he got fucking roasted...

Douglas dominated him... Danny Williams... DANNY FUCKING WILLIAMS made him quit sitting on his ass laying against the ropes, Tyson and Lewis beat the shit out of him... Kevin McBride

His biggest win in his 'bad man' years was a 75 year old Larry Holmes and Bone Crusher Smith

Dude was overrated as fuck... Dominant! Yeah.. beat the shit out of a lot of tomato cans

 

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and

now this

Your point?

 

[H.Clarke]

his legacy died with gus

everybody knows that

Just that simple

 

[Megatron X]

I can count Son... and out of those 60 fights, 45 at least were against second tier competition... whenever he stepped up in competition, he got fucking roasted...

Douglas dominated him... Danny Williams... DANNY FUCKING WILLIAMS made him quit sitting on his ass laying against the ropes, Tyson and Lewis beat the shit out of him... Kevin McBride

His biggest win in his 'bad man' years was a 75 year old Larry Holmes and Bone Crusher Smith

Dude was overrated as fuck... Dominant! Yeah.. beat the shit out of a lot of tomato cans

I always ask why do some say Tyson fought bums? Is it because he destroyed his opponents? If that's the case you may as well say Ali, foreman, and Frazier fought bums. When they fought competition they were dominated. Ali got beat by Trevor Berbick. Tyson fought whoever was around.

I already said why Tyson lost those fights. A mentally focused Tyson would have destroyed buster Douglas. You should be able to see that that Tyson was not even with that fight. He was elsewhere. Check his fight with Jose Ribalta.

Tyson would have dominated a 20 year old larry Holmes. Again you say Tyson fought cans why because he destroyed them??? A great fighter can get wiped out by a much greater fighter.

 

[gene cisco]

You find 1 person that believes in you and guides you to a championship and then have him die and immediately get swept up by snakes in the form of women and a promoter who stole around 9 figures from you and go to jail for a rape charge and see how well you fight

his legacy died with gus

everybody knows that

You all hating on Tyson. He clearly could have been the greatest of all time. You forget who and what he was. You forget that he began to fade after he left kevin Rooney and got mixed up with Don King and Robin Givens. He was less technical, less focused, less disciplined, and became more of a brawler. He also was locked up for some years with no training unlike Ali who could still workout. His loss in interest in the sport even made it worse. But, his worse mistake was leaving kevin Rooney. I believe that a prime Mike Tyson would take out a prime Ali.

That war with Holyfield was great but that Tyson was not the same 1985-1988 Tyson. A 1985-1988 Tyson would destroy Lewis, Bowe, Holyfield, Ali, Foreman, Marciano, Frazier, Klitchko, etc. you all just don't want to admit that Tyson was really the best. You hating.

All of this.Tyson still would have had trouble with larger fighters, but had he kept his original crew, he could have overcame that shit.

After Gus passed, King threw bean pies at him and came up like it wasn't even funny. Don gives no fucks. I'll never forget what King and Givens did to him.

Styles make fights, so he doesn't destroy everyone. He may even take some losses since the division has people like Lewis and the Klitchkos(say what you want, but they could be a nightmare for Tyson while losing easily to other greats). Bowe would also be a problem.

I always loved his fights against razor....

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

I always ask why do some say Tyson fought bums? Is it because he destroyed his opponents? If that's the case you may as well say Ali, foreman, and Frazier fought bums. When they fought competition they were dominated. Ali got beat by Trevor Berbick. Tyson fought whoever was around.

I already said why Tyson lost those fights. A mentally focused Tyson would have destroyed buster Douglas. You should be able to see that that Tyson was not even with that fight. He was elsewhere. Check his fight with Jose Ribalta.

Tyson would have dominated a 20 year old larry Holmes. Again you say Tyson fought cans why because he destroyed them??? A great fighter can get wiped out by a much greater fighter.

I like that argument, mike made people look bad. They were bums because if you look at their careers and resumes 90 percent of the people he beat weren't worth shit! Find me ONE fighter he beat, who was dominant against a higher level of competition and was notable. So yeah, most of the fighters he beat, especially during his bad man years were bums. When he stepped up against true top level fighters, he got his ass beat, AND was forced to quit by a Bum Danny williams...

You reference a fight against Jose Ribalta? Who

You're doing a good job validating my points, and all this what he WOULD have done against certain fighters is your opinion bro... no proof. My argument is based on FACTS!!! His in ring achievements are overrated and at most he was a hype machine with slightly above average ring achievements...

 

[da_monumental_1]

You find 1 person that believes in you and guides you to a championship and then have him die and immediately get swept up by snakes in the form of women and a promoter who stole around 9 figures from you and go to jail for a rape charge and see how well you fight

Cus was six feet deep a year before Tyson smelled his first title strap.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

All of this.Tyson still would have had trouble with larger fighters, but had he kept his original crew, he could have overcame that shit.

After Gus passed, King threw bean pies at him and came up like it wasn't even funny. Don gives no fucks. I'll never forget what King and Givens did to him.

Styles make fights, so he doesn't destroy everyone. He may even take some losses since the division has people like Lewis and the Klitchkos(say what you want, but they could be a nightmare for Tyson while losing easily to other greats). Bowe would also be a problem.

I always loved his fights against razor....

Not buying none of this Gene. Again, can't based a career off of woulda coulda... Sure, he had some out of ring troubles, but that doesn't negate the fact that his IN RING accomplishments were overrated and when he stepped up in class he got his ass whipped! So, what do we do... put a special note on his resume to please discount his loses or the years 90-2005 because he was having problems? The ass whippings don't count? Mike never beat anyone of note, who had the resume of achievement OUTSIDE of the fight with Mike to support they should be considered an A Level fighter. The only one that comes close is Michael Spinks, who was two classes smaller and coming up, but I won't take that win from him.

 

[yaBoi]

tyson's career was destroyed outside of the ring by king, givens, and that bitch that sent him to jail for nothing


we will never know what he could have been

if you say he was overrated then Bo jackson was overrated....

 

[Lick]

This Dude is celebrated for his career, but for the most part when he fought against real competition or stepped up in class he got fucked up! Once he finished with his bum of the month tour, he lost more often than he won, and lost bad as hell. Against better competition his fights ended like this:

This young person have NO idea about much... let alone boxing.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Cus was six feet deep a year before Tyson smelled his first title strap.

That's all I'm saying. Dudes are coppin so many pleas for Dude. He beat a 15-7 Donnie Long before Cus died. Mike stayed getting his ass kicked after his tomato can run...