Spreading false doctrine.
You mean the lies that gather and compound like dead flies on a dead carcass.
I'm no biblical scholar, so I chose wisely when I conversate about reglious beliefs or faith.Facts mean nothing to some.....![]()
I'm no biblical scholar, so I chose wisely when I conversate about reglious beliefs or faith.
So I'm not knowledgable enough to know if there's certain groups of individuals who's spreading the so called "fake doctrine" Mr chef spoke. I asked him to identify any concerns he have with the message Brotha Leo spoke. It's been a while, so I'll ASSUME(which I was taught you never do because it normally makes a "ASS out of U and ME") he's gather informative articles to dispute LEO claims.
That would have been waaaayyy too much to ask for ....hahahaha![]()
It's been damn near a month and I'm still waitingThat would have been waaaayyy too much to ask for ....hahahaha![]()
hybrid chef said:I'm working on my sugar work and pastries abroad. I don't have time to keep a blow by blow of what's said. I'll state by case when i get back state side. I have that particular thread bookmarked.
I'll do in the thread or by pm which way is none of my concern. I look at it as more of a jail house cult. What I've said to you I've said to people of that religion i know personally. Brothas peep it like some super savor of faith. The faith their Grand parents followed quote unquote inslaved us. I find it to be bullshit. No one breathing today was alive back then in terms of switching beliefs.
Remember Mr Chef...these aren't the words of Leo, Farrakhan, cokely or myself.
Mr. Rensburg stated this on his own.
SA poison plan to damage Mandela's brain
CHRISTOPHER MUNNION in Johannesburg10 May 2007 04:26 PM
PLANS by apartheid-era leaders to poison Nelson Mandela and impair his brain before releasing him from prison on Robben Island came to light yesterday at South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation commission.
PLANS by apartheid-era leaders to poison Nelson Mandela and impair his brain before releasing him from prison on Robben Island came to light yesterday at South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation commission.
The commission was shown a document in which the then all-powerful State Security Council recommended the release of Mr Mandela in 1986, outside South Africa and in a deliberately induced ''poor state of health''.
Details of the poisoning plans were given by scientists who were employed at a research company run covertly by the country's military intelligence service.
Dr Schalk van Rensburg, who worked on the military's chemical and biological warfare programme, said the aim was not to kill Mr Mandela but ``to reduce his level of effectiveness'' in political life.
He said the idea to put poisons into medication were made when the African National Congress leader was in Pollsmoor Prison, Cape Town. Nothing had come of the plans, he told the commission.
Dr van Rensberg said the obsession of the military officers at the Roodeport Research Laboratories had been to find an undetectable poison.
In several cases, poisons had been put into the clothing of ANC activists, including the Rev Frank Chikane, president of the South African Council of Churches. The military had been furious when the attempt on the Rev Chikane's life failed and the poison was detected during a visit to America
In another incident, anthrax spores had been put into food given to Russian advisers to the then exiled ANC in Lusaka. One of them had died.
Poisons were contained in cans of beer or bottles of whisky and in sugar and chocolates. The laboratory had also kept samples of cholera for possible use against ``dissident communities''.
Dr Michael Odendaal, a microbiologist, said he had prepared about 260 ml of cholera germ which, he said, was capable of causing a serious epidemic. He had understood cholera was to be used in a ``war situation'', not in South Africa.
The scientists giving evidence to the commission said they initially believed their work was concerned with the production of legitimate protective equipment for the nation's Defence Force but were slowly drawn into more sinister research and development.
The hearing continues.(Daily Telegraph London)
Michael Binyon writes: President Mandela will say goodbye to Europe at the Cardiff summit. The South African leader will be guest of honour at the final luncheon on Tuesday, where the 15 leaders of the European Union will pay glowing tribute to the man they all credit with the peaceful transition from apartheid to multiracial democracy.
Mr Mandela, who is in Britain on a private visit, will be received by Queen Elizabeth in Windsor Castle, and will fly to Cardiff to hold bilateral talks with EU leaders in the margins of the summit. Prime Minister Tony Blair has invited all leaders to stay on for a farewell lunch in his honour.(The Times London)
Nelson Mandela and Winnie Mandela
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Why Nelson Mandela was on a terrorism watch list in 2008
Nelson Mandela is being remembered across the world (and political spectrum) for his heroic, life-long battle against apartheid and injustice in South Africa. But with all the accolades being thrown around, it’s easy to forget that the U.S., in particular, hasn’t always had such a friendly relationship with Mandela -- and that in fact, as late as 2008, the Nobel Prize winner and former president was still on the U.S. terrorism watch list.
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FILE - In this Jan. 16, 1984, file photo, President Ronald Reagan displays reports gives to him by J. Peter Grace, right, of the Private Sector Survey on Waste and Cost Control in Government, in Washington at the White House. AP Photo/Ira Schwarz
The sticking point was, in Mandela’s case, ideological. In the mid-'80s, as activists in South Africa and around the world began to agitate in earnest for Mandela’s release, the Reagan administration still saw communism as one of its primary enemies -- and defeating communism as one of its foremost foreign policy goals. That complicated the administration’s take on South Africa.
The apartheid regime, it turns out, had supported the U.S. during the Cold War and had worked closely with both the Reagan and Nixon administrations to limit Soviet influence in the region, as Sam Kleiner chronicled in Foreign Policy last July.
Meanwhile, the African National Congress, which Mandela chaired, was peppered with members of the South African Communist Party. Even worse in the eyes of the Reagan Administration was the ANC’s apparent friendliness toward Moscow: The ANC’s secretary general, Alfred Nzo, bore greetings to the Soviet communist party congress in 1986. That was enough to inspire Reagan to accuse the ANC of encouraging communism in a 1986 policy speech, and to rule that South Africa had no obligation to negotiate with a group bent on “creating a communist state.”
The Reagan administration wasn’t alone in this fear, either -- Margaret Thatcher’s conservative regime in Britain shared Reagan’s “constructive engagement,” anti-sanctions views regarding South Africa. (It probably helped that the U.K., like the U.S., was a major South African trade partner.) Years later, former Canadian prime minister Brian Mulroney would write a memoir that detailed his attempts to persuade Thatcher and Reagan to take action in South Africa. All attempts, sometimes famously, failed:
When we spoke on the telephone the night before I left for London, however, it became clear that Ronald Reagan saw the whole South African issue strictly in East-West Cold War terms. Over the years, he and Margaret continually raised with me their fears that Nelson Mandela and other anti-apartheid leaders were communists. My answer was always the same. 'How can you or anyone else know that?' I'd ask again and again. 'He's been in prison for 20 years and nobody knows that, for the simple reason no one has talked to him -- including you.'
Tragically for South Africa, the cloud of communism prevented the U.S. from acting for several years. While the Reagan administration’s official goal was to end apartheid, and while it consistently called for South Africa to free Mandela, the U.S. dragged its feet on the crucial issue of economic sanctions. When a United Nations resolution came up that criticized apartheid, both the U.S. and Britain pushed through amendments to weaken it.
The Reagan administration also followed South Africa’s lead on characterizing the ANC, naming it a terrorist group in the 1970s and forcing Mandela to get special State Department clearance to enter the U.S. in 2008. (“It's frankly a rather embarrassing matter,” Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said at the time.)
Eventually, of course, the U.S. did pass economic sanctions, which are widely credited for helping topple -- at least in part -- the apartheid regime. Mandela went on to praise Reagan (as well as President Bush and Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev) for his role in ending apartheid.
But it was Mandela’s outspoken wife, Winnie, who probably best expressed the frayed relationship between the two world leaders -- and, for a time in the ‘80s, between the anti-apartheid movement and the United States. In 1986, after Winnie’s home was firebombed and burned down, the Reagan administration offered her $10,000 to rebuild it. She refused.
"This why our people are angry at the Reagan and Thatcher administrations in particular,” Winnie Mandela said. “[They] continue to condone the activities of the South African government. If they had any feeling for the downtrodden and oppressed majority of our country they would end their policy of gentle persuasion. It appears their interests in this country far outweighs their so-called abhorrence of apartheid."
1969 Winnie was placed in custody due to a terrorist act
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This thread is interesting... Bookmarked. I saw him twice a few years ago. And plan to make my journey out there again.I'll check him out again. 1) He speaks the truth about the Pale face
2) His first name is Leo
3) He is banned from this White Racist country