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Bosh wants rings, unless Dream, Horry, and Mad Max suit up, Houston cant help him.
Parsons
Harden
Beverly
Howard
Bosh
Sounds championship caliber to me
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Life is interesting.
Just find it amazing how a kid can grow up in an unstable home, and relative poverty...
...and years later, he has millions of people in the world on the edge of their seats waiting to find out what he's going to do next.
Not once...
...but twice - and in a four year period.
My poor son(s).
Just find it amazing how a kid can grow up in an unstable home, and relative poverty...
...and years later, he has millions of people in the world on the edge of their seats waiting to find out what he's going to do next.
Not once...
...but twice - and in a four year period.
My poor son(s).
I don't understand how Houston can afford Bosh at that rate, and still afford to pay Parsons. To me Parsons is a top 5 small forward in the league, he has a higher value than Gordon Hayword, meaning he should be looking to get around 10 mil for his value.
It does
It is
Some dude from Houston sports radio was just on 105.3 out here explaining that Houston could still keep Parsons even if y'all get Bosh and not be too deep into the tax
Good on paper but with Portland, OKC, SAS, CLIPS and the rest of the west Houston ain't fucking with them even if they add bosh
Parsons is very good but top 5?
James
Durant
Melo
George
Leonard
DeRozan
Iguodala
Gay
Deng
...
If bosh take that deal I think Melo will step in that stop in Miami
Sometime more is going on behind the scenes nobody talking about... Plus with all the smoke screens and leaks something major is bout to happen and it won't involve Lebron
Melo will command the ball more, but will give you a lot more buckets. Just a better scorer than Bosh.
However, defensively?
Maybe Lebron can get that nigga to commit to playing D.
Point is, no way you resign Melo to 3rd option status like you did Bosh.
He maybe can't play D, but he's an offensive force.
Ok got me there, top 10 lol, still up there in pay tho, and i'd def put him over Deng, and as a scoring threat he is way more efficient than Gay
Parsons can be retained because we can go over the cap to sign our own restricted free agent.
He and his agent are playing ball. They know that the rockets are gonna pay him once they make their big splash in free agency.
Once we get THAT guy, the rockets will tell Parsons and his agent GO OUT AND GET THE BEST DEAL YOU CAN, WE'LL MATCH IT.
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He and his agent are playing ball. They know that the rockets are gonna pay him once they make their big splash in free agency.
Once we get THAT guy, the rockets will tell Parsons and his agent GO OUT AND GET THE BEST DEAL YOU CAN, WE'LL MATCH IT.
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Melo will command the ball more, but will give you a lot more buckets. Just a better scorer than Bosh.
However, defensively?
Maybe Lebron can get that nigga to commit to playing D.
Point is, no way you resign Melo to 3rd option status like you did Bosh.
He maybe can't play D, but he's an offensive force.
Melo will be the first option scoring and second option no doubt about that which is good for Bron because of the facilitator he is
Melo would avg 30 easy and without much effort playing with Bron, plus u can get 15-19 from Wade and granger giving u 10 and mcrob giving you 10.. The offensive isn't the problem
The concern will def be the defense
We beat Portland regular season match ups but not when it mattered (playoffs)
Swept the season series against SAS
OKC and CLIPS are scary because they're young. But if you give me that potential rockets starting 5 i posted against those teams, I like my chances.
Funny how the ones that's really shittin' on the Bosh to Houston deal are Miami fans (king t/beatdown)
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Yeah top ten for sure. Id pick him over some guys in my list even cause he is young and improving. Im surprised Houston doesnt have him locked up yet.
Yea pretty amazing...
Cavs explain why they took down Dan Gilbert's letter to LeBron James
By Mike Prada @MikePradaSBN on Jul 7 2014, 2:00p 49
USA TODAY Sports
Dan Gilbert's infamous letter to LeBron just disappeared from the Cavs website. Here's their explanation.
By now, you've probably noticed that Dan Gilbert's famous Comic Sans letter to LeBron James, an active link on the team's website even four years later, was taken down for good Sunday night at the same time rumors circulated about a meeting between the Cavaliers and James' agent to discuss a potential reunion. This is the page that now exists in its place.
That's a simple redirect to the Cavaliers' news and features page.
The timing of the decision, given Cleveland's recruitment of James for a possible reunion in Cleveland, is impossible to ignore. But according to the Cavaliers, the decision to remove the letter was actually about closing a loophole they already believed had been shut.
"The letter was removed years ago from the Cavs.com website, but over the last week, it was discovered that it still existed from this external link to a stagnant archived page," Cavaliers director of communications Tad Carper told SB Nation. "It was on the content management system platform that was used back in 2010."
Thus, everyone within the organization proceeded as if nothing strange was going on. But when James' free agency started to kick into gear, one employee noticed a spike in traffic to a page that was believed to be purged from the Internet. A decision was made to delete the letter again, but the process was more complex because the team did not have direct access to the site's old CMS. Thus, the team had to ask the league to do it for them.
Cavaliers just might be the favorite for LeBron
James' rumored meeting with the Cavaliers Sunday is of course why the letter's deletion is significant in the first place, but Carper downplayed the timing of the move beyond noting the spike in traffic to that page.
"Quite frankly, we weren't looking for [the letter] because we knew we deleted it," he said. "If [it still being an active url] would have become apparent a year ago, we would have deleted it too."
Because this is hilarious, though, we're going to ensure the letter is still preserved in some form, which Carper said he understands will happen and has happened elsewhere. This way, though, at least it won't be associated with the team's official website.
By Mike Prada @MikePradaSBN on Jul 7 2014, 2:00p 49
USA TODAY Sports
Dan Gilbert's infamous letter to LeBron just disappeared from the Cavs website. Here's their explanation.
By now, you've probably noticed that Dan Gilbert's famous Comic Sans letter to LeBron James, an active link on the team's website even four years later, was taken down for good Sunday night at the same time rumors circulated about a meeting between the Cavaliers and James' agent to discuss a potential reunion. This is the page that now exists in its place.
That's a simple redirect to the Cavaliers' news and features page.
The timing of the decision, given Cleveland's recruitment of James for a possible reunion in Cleveland, is impossible to ignore. But according to the Cavaliers, the decision to remove the letter was actually about closing a loophole they already believed had been shut.
"The letter was removed years ago from the Cavs.com website, but over the last week, it was discovered that it still existed from this external link to a stagnant archived page," Cavaliers director of communications Tad Carper told SB Nation. "It was on the content management system platform that was used back in 2010."
Thus, everyone within the organization proceeded as if nothing strange was going on. But when James' free agency started to kick into gear, one employee noticed a spike in traffic to a page that was believed to be purged from the Internet. A decision was made to delete the letter again, but the process was more complex because the team did not have direct access to the site's old CMS. Thus, the team had to ask the league to do it for them.
Cavaliers just might be the favorite for LeBron
James' rumored meeting with the Cavaliers Sunday is of course why the letter's deletion is significant in the first place, but Carper downplayed the timing of the move beyond noting the spike in traffic to that page.
"Quite frankly, we weren't looking for [the letter] because we knew we deleted it," he said. "If [it still being an active url] would have become apparent a year ago, we would have deleted it too."
Because this is hilarious, though, we're going to ensure the letter is still preserved in some form, which Carper said he understands will happen and has happened elsewhere. This way, though, at least it won't be associated with the team's official website.
Tom Ziller @teamziller about 11 minutes ago
Congrats! The Heat signed the NBA's tallest combo guard: sbnation.com/nba/2014/7/8/5… #jebron #mcbob
The Miami Heat's new big man doesn't play like one
By Tom Ziller
@teamziller on Jul 8 2014, 9:48a 1
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New Miami Heat free-agent signing Josh McRoberts is unique: a big man that has the statistical profile of a point guard.
Josh McRoberts is not normal. He's a large human playing basketball, which is rather mundane in itself: the NBA is lousy with large humans, and being a normal-sized human is far more of an outlier. (Ask Isaiah Thomas' free agency prospects for proof.) What's abnormal about the 6'10 Josh McRoberts, a large basketball-playing human, is that he plays like a much smaller guy. A much, much smaller guy.
McRoberts agreed to a full mid-level exception deal -- four years, $23 million -- with the Heat on Monday. One assumes he'll be slotted in as the starting center next to Chris Bosh (assuming he returns) or will be the first big man off the bench in small lineups. But honestly, he's better served as a back-up or replacement for Dwyane Wade, because McBob is not really an NBA big man. In fact, he's really the league's tallest guard.
There are three things that stand out about McBob in 2013-14 statistically: he took a lot of three-pointers, he racked up a lot of assists and he didn't rebound very well. If you look for players who performed similarly to McRoberts in those three categories*, you find the following list.
* For our purposes, "similar to McBob" means at least four threes attempted per 36 minutes, a total rebound rate below 10 percent and an assist rate between 20 and 30 percent. We only included players with at least 1,200 minutes.
If you remove the upper limit on assist rate, you get lots more point guards, including Stephen Curry and the aforementioned Isaiah Thomas. Basically, McBob is a combo guard trapped in a big man's body.
Given that Miami's biggest issues in the Finals were interior defense and rebounding, I'm not sure McRoberts was the right choice. But they do call McBob "JeBron" for a reason. Maybe this signing is just insurance in case LeBron chooses Cleveland. (Which might happen because of the McBob signing, thus making it a self-fulfilling prophecy by Pat Riley.)
Congrats! The Heat signed the NBA's tallest combo guard: sbnation.com/nba/2014/7/8/5… #jebron #mcbob
The Miami Heat's new big man doesn't play like one
By Tom Ziller
@teamziller on Jul 8 2014, 9:48a 1
Sam Sharpe-USA TODAY Sports
New Miami Heat free-agent signing Josh McRoberts is unique: a big man that has the statistical profile of a point guard.
Josh McRoberts is not normal. He's a large human playing basketball, which is rather mundane in itself: the NBA is lousy with large humans, and being a normal-sized human is far more of an outlier. (Ask Isaiah Thomas' free agency prospects for proof.) What's abnormal about the 6'10 Josh McRoberts, a large basketball-playing human, is that he plays like a much smaller guy. A much, much smaller guy.
McRoberts agreed to a full mid-level exception deal -- four years, $23 million -- with the Heat on Monday. One assumes he'll be slotted in as the starting center next to Chris Bosh (assuming he returns) or will be the first big man off the bench in small lineups. But honestly, he's better served as a back-up or replacement for Dwyane Wade, because McBob is not really an NBA big man. In fact, he's really the league's tallest guard.
There are three things that stand out about McBob in 2013-14 statistically: he took a lot of three-pointers, he racked up a lot of assists and he didn't rebound very well. If you look for players who performed similarly to McRoberts in those three categories*, you find the following list.
* For our purposes, "similar to McBob" means at least four threes attempted per 36 minutes, a total rebound rate below 10 percent and an assist rate between 20 and 30 percent. We only included players with at least 1,200 minutes.
If you remove the upper limit on assist rate, you get lots more point guards, including Stephen Curry and the aforementioned Isaiah Thomas. Basically, McBob is a combo guard trapped in a big man's body.
Given that Miami's biggest issues in the Finals were interior defense and rebounding, I'm not sure McRoberts was the right choice. But they do call McBob "JeBron" for a reason. Maybe this signing is just insurance in case LeBron chooses Cleveland. (Which might happen because of the McBob signing, thus making it a self-fulfilling prophecy by Pat Riley.)
We beat Portland regular season match ups but not when it mattered (playoffs)
Swept the season series against SAS
OKC and CLIPS are scary because they're young. But if you give me that potential rockets starting 5 i posted against those teams, I like my chances.
Funny how the ones that's really shittin' on the Bosh to Houston deal are Miami fans (king t/beatdown)
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Please tell me where in my post I shitted on bosh to Houston? I said it was a good fit
Kurt Helin @basketballtalk about 25 minutes ago
Report: Heat inquired about adding Pacers’ Lance Stephenson dlvr.it/6G1NLh
^ old news .
It was reported last week.
They offered him less than the pacers
It was reported last week.
They offered him less than the pacers
The one I quoted...
Before it's even said or done you're already like "WELL EVEN WITH HIM....." blah blah blah
And u didn't say it's a good fit you said it's good on paper. That's the beginning of throwing shade on something....
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That right there would be a good look especially where he can start and wade come on the bench...
Looks like Mickey willing to dip in that tax
Just looking at how deep the west is you have nobody competing in Houston PG against the west top PGs
Lillard, Paul, Parker, Westbrook... Now tell me how is that hating? You putting Beverly on them niggas? That ain't hatin bruh
The Heat is the most feared dynasty in basketball history.
Everyone praying that it ends, and Inkosi goes back to massa so they can openly root for him again.
What's this Heat Dynasty bullshit? That shit BEEN over the minute Wade knees left him. Ain't no fucking Dynasty.
Its not about dipping into a tax. Y'all have 10 million to spend in free agency. You can dip into the tax to pay your own guys but signing free agents? And with McRoberts and Granger signings.......how much cap space y'all have now?
Who did the Heat throw out there and point guard in their 4 championship appearances?
Dwight, Bosh, Parsons and Harden? All of those guys are the best players at their positions except Parsons who is solid as well. Shit won't even matter who you put at point. That Rockets team is cold as fuck. And to be honest even if its the West.....i'd rather make more money and play with Dwight, Parsons and Harden than take a pay cut and make less playing alongside POSSIBLY Lebron, Napier and Josh McRoberts.
Yoooo Melo to Miami is seeming real as shit right now.
Its not about dipping into a tax. Y'all have 10 million to spend in free agency. You can dip into the tax to pay your own guys but signing free agents? And with McRoberts and Granger signings.......how much cap space y'all have now?
Who did the Heat throw out there and point guard in their 4 championship appearances?
That Rockets team is cold as fuck. And to be honest even if its the West.....i'd rather make more money and play with Dwight, Parsons and Harden than take a pay cut and make less playing alongside POSSIBLY Lebron, Napier and Josh McRoberts.
You talk a whole lot of dumb shit
Difference is Lebron period... And Houston don't have a Lebron to mask that pg deficiency that's the difference..
You saw how came time lillard washed Beverly and harden up
I would not put my future in these guys hands ........
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