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Andrew Wiggins Would Welcome LeBron Pairing
June 25th, 2014 1:16 pm
By JOSH NEWMAN

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NEW YORK - As it becomes increasingly likely that Jabari Parker will be selected No. 2 overall at the NBA Draft by the Milwaukee Bucks, that would leave Andrew Wiggins for the Cleveland Cavaliers with the No. 1 pick.

If that does happen and newly-minted free agent LeBron James somehow ends up going back to the Cavaliers next month, that potential pairing is something Wiggins would obviously be interested in.

“I could play there forever, I think that would be a good combination obviously,” Wiggins said at NBA Draft media day on Wednesday afternoon in midtown. “He’s arguably the best player in the NBA right now.”


However remote a LeBron-Wiggins combination may seem, the possibility is dangling out there until James says otherwise.

James’ agent, Rich Paul, informed the Heat that his client will opt out of the final two years of his contract to test free agency. He can now re-sign with the Heat for five years and $130 million, or go elsewhere for four years and $96 million. Several teams, including the Cavaliers, are expected to make a run at James once free agency negotiating opens on July 1.

While a union with James may never come to be, Wiggins is set to reunite with fellow-Canadian Anthony Bennett, whom the Cavs selected No. 1 last June. Wiggins would certainly welcome playing with his countryman, as both are expected to be part of the future of a rising Canadian national team program.

“We’re all boys, you know?” Wiggins said of Bennett, as well as Canadian draft prospects Nik Stauskas and Tyler Ennis. “We’ve known each other for a few years now. I’ve played with him and against him for a long time now, so the chemistry is already really good.”

Wiggins, Ennis and Stauskas are all expected to be selected inside the first 20 picks on Thursday at Barclays Center.
 
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Grizzlies new ownership trying to force the demise of that team
 
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The only problem they have is outside scoring...

Well if y'all let me vent a little...Rudy Gay and Oj Mayo don't have trouble doing this.
I understand they didn't get along, and C. Lee and Tony Allen complement each other pretty good, but damn kinfolk...
 
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Memphis got that new cheap ownership

That's the real issue
 
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Word on the screet

Harden gonna get traded for melo

Then rockets sign Lebron

Melo Lebron Howard


That's NY best offer IMO

We can't trump harden

O well

Affalo 2 draft picks and pooh is our off season

:(
 
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Man I'd trade Harden for Melo so fast it wouldn't make any sense
 
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Word on the screet

Harden gonna get traded for melo

Then rockets sign Lebron

Melo Lebron Howard


That's NY best offer IMO

We can't trump harden

O well

Affalo 2 draft picks and pooh is our off season

:(

Stop listening to Chris Beusarrd
 
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Fuck...

We gone fuck around and amnesty Boozer just to get Randolph :smh:
 
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Fuck...

We gone fuck around and amnesty Boozer just to get Randolph :smh:

Not shutting on Zach, but that don't solve anything...well finally getting rid of Carlos should be some relief
 
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Fuck...

We gone fuck around and amnesty Boozer just to get Randolph :smh:

Zbo basically a better version but it doesn't solve your problem

Still no explosiveness

Dudes like Zbo, Boozer, David West got a maximum amount they can give you each night due to lack of height/athleticism

Zbo just the best version of it
 
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WEDNESDAY BUZZ COLUMN

Mostly Heat chatter today:

### Though his return is not certain by any means, the Heat remains the favorite to retain free agent LeBron James, but he wants issues with the roster addressed, according to an associate with knowledge of the situation.

When James speaks with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh this week, he will gauge their willingness to opt out of existing contracts and agree to deals that give the Heat more spending money. Both of them appear receptive to opting out and taking pay cuts in exchange for longer deals, provided the cuts aren’t too steep.
The good news for the Heat: None of James’ other most attractive suitors have the cap space to give him a max contract, and creating that space will either be difficult or cost them assets that would make their rosters potentially no more appealing than Miami’s. (More on that in a minute.)

### Even though Bosh said he would be receptive to taking a pay cut and a Wade associate said Wade is open to the idea, it might not create enough space to add one of this summer’s priciest free agents if James doesn’t do the same.
A Wade associate said Wade would be receptive to considering a four-year, $60 million deal to replace the $42 million he’s owed over the next two seasons.
But let’s say Wade and Bosh each take cuts to $15 million next season.

And let’s say Udonis Haslem can be convinced to opt out of the $4.6 million he’s owed next season for a three-year deal starting at $2 million or $2.5 million. (Haslem has told me he's open to the idea of exchanging money for years if it would help add pieces to the roster.)
And let’s say the Heat dumps its other cap commitments except Norris Cole --- meaning Miami trades its first-round pick and cuts Justin Hamilton. (Cole is due $2.15 million, by the way.)
Under that scenario, with Wade and Bosh each earning $15 million and James making $20 million (which would be his max for next season), the Heat would have only $5.5 million to $6 million of space under the projected $63.6 million cap, factoring in required cap holds topping $500,000 each for roster spots unfilled up to 12.
The Heat also would have a $2.7 million “room” exception in this scenario and also could sign players to the minimum, topping out at $1.4 million.
But the $6 million or so in cap space in this scenario could not be combined with the room exception.

And what could $6 million buy in free agency?
It wouldn’t be enough to lure Carmelo Anthony.

Luol Deng’s agent, Herb Rudoy, said even though Deng believes the Heat is “fantastic,” there’s “not a chance” Deng --- who made $14.3 million last season --- would agree to that amount of money.

Toronto point guard Kyle Lowry likes the Heat but is looking for $10 million a year or more.

Lakers forward/center Pau Gasol, who earned $19 million last season, would like to play for a winner, but the Heat will have competition from some of the 15-plus teams with significant cap space, including Dallas, which has $30 million, a lot of which will be used on Dirk Nowitzki.

Washington Wizards free agents Trevor Ariza and Marcin Gortat, who each earned $7.7 million last season, are both expecting raises, as is Cleveland center Spencer Hawes ($6.5 million). So is Phoenix forward Channing Frye, who opted out of a guaranteed $6.8 million next season.

But if James also took a cut of several million dollars, Miami could make a competitive offer for any of those except possibly Anthony, whom the Heat will call nonetheless. Though the idea of another James pay cut isn’t appealing to some of his associates, it’s possible he might do it for a few select players.
### If James doesn’t take a cut, but Wade and Bosh takes cuts of about $5 million apiece, the $6 million or so that would be created in space would make the Heat a contender for players such as point guards Darren Collison, Kirk Hinrich, Patty Mills or Steve Blake (each could warrant a share of that money if Miami splits it up), Brooklyn’s Paul Pierce (an associate said he wants to play for a winner and included Miami, the Clippers and the Nets among several possibilities), Charlotte power forward Josh McRoberts, Lakers power forward Jordan Hill (Miami has pursued him before) and Clippers forward Danny Granger.

The Heat then could use its $2.7 million room exception and minimum contracts on the likes of Ray Allen (ESPN says he's leaning toward playing), Chris Andersen (still has interest in possibly returning despite opting out), Marvin Williams, Jordan Hamilton, Chris Kaman, Andray Blatche, Kris Humphries, Vince Carter, Shawn Marion, Jodie Meeks, Caron Butler or Emeka Okafor.

The Heat also has a $2.2 million trade exception from the Joel Anthony deal.
If four or five quality rotation players can be added through these means, the roster would be much better even without signing one of the most expensive free agents. And the Heat would not be paying a luxury tax in this scenario.

### The Heat could create more space by asking Bosh and Wade to go down to $12 million next season and making it up on the back end of their deals, so that each gets $60 million over four years. In this scenario, even without James taking a pay cut, the Heat could have enough space (around $11 million) to land Lowry.

But the Heat would then be clogging its cap with a 36-year-old Wade making $18 million in 2017-18, with no assurances that James would still be around at that point. And you would be asking two-thirds of the Big Three not only to accept a huge cut from $20 million to $12 million next season but also take far, far less than LeBron would be making.
### James planned to opt out even if the Heat had won the Finals and likely will at least listen to suitors that interest him, according to the associate.

But none of those attractive suitors have the cap space Miami did four years ago.
James likes Clippers coach Doc Rivers and is close with Chris Paul, but creating enough space to sign him would require the Clippers to find teams able to take DeAndre Jordan ($11.4 million), Jamal Crawford ($5.4 million), Jared Dudley ($4.2 million), Matt Barnes ($3.3 million) and Reggie Bullock ($1.2 million) without sending contracts back AND persuading James to agree to a salary as much as $8 million under the $20 million max next season. (Thanks to NBA salary cap guru Larry Coon for confirming my calculations on this.)

The idea of the Clippers being able to rid themselves of that much salary (especially Dudley, Barnes and Bullock) without taking any back appears unrealistic.
The Clippers' other alternative, if James wants to sign there, is to propose to the Heat a sign-and-trade with Blake Griffin. But Yahoo! reported the Heat has told people it’s adamant against sign-and-trades for James.

And for James, he would need to ask himself this: Would playing for a Griffin-less Clippers in a tougher conference offer any better chance of winning than Miami does? He would be opting for Paul and Jordan instead of Wade and Bosh and whatever supporting casts each team can assemble.

Houston will make a run at James, but to offer James even $19 million, the Rockets would need to find a taker for Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin --- who are each due $14.9 million balloon payments and have $8.4 million cap numbers --- and make other minor moves.

Chicago would need to amnesty Carlos Boozer and likely trade Taj Gibson to make James a representative offer.

Though the idea of returning to Cleveland down the road holds some appeal to him, James would want the Cavaliers to add another significant piece for him to even consider that this summer, the associate said. And doing that would require parting with Anderson Varejao and perhaps other pieces.

ESPN reported several teams, including Cleveland and Atlanta and the Lakers, are exploring ways to create enough cap space to add both Anthony and James at reduced salaries. The odds are against that, though the Heat hasn’t given up hope of Anthony joining the Big Three at reduced salaries.

James can explore that Anthony scenario immediately if he chooses, but the Heat cannot call Anthony until 12:01 a.m. Tuesday.
### James can sign for as much as five years, $115 million with the Heat but no more than four year, $85.5 million with other teams.
### The Heat, awaiting word from Allen, hasn’t told several of its non-Big Three free agents --- including Rashard Lewis, Michael Beasley and James Jones --- whether it wants to keep them. Jones seems likely to be invited back, especially if James returns.
 
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It's not inconceivable that Lowry could wind up playing with James if he re-ups with the Miami Heat, but the economics in that equation would make it extremely challenging. The more likely scenario, by far, involves Lowry getting paid handsomely by a team that wasn't able to convince the four-time MVP to come its way.
 
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Kevin Durant defends LeBron James
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All eyes are on LeBron James after he opted out of the final year of his contract with the Miami Heat, including those of Oklahoma City Thunder forward Kevin Durant, who said at the release of his new Nike shoe that he doesn't see what all the commotion is about.

"I don't know what the big deal is," Durant said during a brief Q&A session about his new KD 7 shoe, according to the Washington Post. "As a player, I think that's the best way to go about it. You can have all your options. It's better for you as a player to opt-out, because you can get a market deal. You can get more years. You never know what will happen if you pass up on that. So I didn't know what the big deal was. I'm sure it was a decision he made, something he was thinking about, for him and his family."

Kevin Durant says LeBron James' decision to opt is "the best way to go about it."
Durant, 25, is signed with the Thunder through 2016, but the buzz surrounding his pending free agency has already begun. Durant re-signed with the Thunder during the summer of 2010, announcing it with a tweet. The interesting part of Durant's current deal is that, unlike James', it does not include an opt-out after the fourth season, at his request.

"I've always been a loyal person," Durant said after signing his deal in 2010. "I just love this organization, what we stand for, which is family. I'm really big on that. This is the only place for me. I told everybody a couple of years back that I wanted to be a part of this organization, so I stuck with it."

There have been growing comparisons between Durant and San Antonio Spurs forward Tim Duncan because both play in small markets, and to this point, have only played for one franchise.

"I don't think it's fair," Durant said of the parallel. "I don't think anything that you guys criticize LeBron [about] is fair. He switched teams. He's not the first guy to do it. He decided to opt out. He's not the first guy to do it. Sometimes a lot of people criticize him a little bit too much for doing normal things, doing stuff that everybody has done. [Even] Tim Duncan went into free agency before. He got courted by quite a few teams. We'll see what happens with me, but everybody's done the same thing. He's not the first."

James left Cleveland after seven seasons for Miami, primarily because of the Cavaliers' failure to build a championship team around him. Durant just completed his seventh season with the Thunder and while the team has experienced an impressive run of success -- three trips to the Western Conference finals and one to the NBA Finals the last four years -- the team has yet to cap it with a title.

While James left his hometown team, there's an assumption that Durant might possibly find sentimental value in joining his, the Washington Wizards. Durant grew up in Seat Pleasant, Maryland, a town near Washington D.C.

"I've been getting a lot lately," Durant said at the shoe release. "But everybody knows I love OKC and knows that I'm under contract right now. A lot of people ask me, but I just try to stay focused on today, and I'll worry about that when I get there."
 
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Jerry West - "Pop is the best coach I've ever seen"


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Hall of Famer Jerry West, the man the NBA "logo" is modeled after, said on Wednesday's Colin Cowherd Show on ESPN that longtime Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich is the best he's ever seen.

The 76-year-old West, a 14-time All-Star who won an NBA championship as a player with the Lakers and another four as an executive, said Popovich does "less with more" -- likely meaning to say "more with less" -- and he praised San Antonio's recruiting and draft programs.

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“I’ve never seen a better coach than Gregg Popovich. He does less with more. But having said that, when he gets less, he develops it into something really good. They have a great development program down there.
“For a coach coming into this league, if they don’t hire people who are really competent, to take these young kids who haven’t made it somewhere but have talent and build a system they can prosper in, but more importantly to get these kids shoot the ball. When they got Kawhi Leonard, he was not a shooter. It tells you the significance of what they’ve done internally to improve their team.”

Popovich has been a coach with the Spurs for nearly 30 years, joining fellow Hall of Fame coach Larry Brown as an assistant coach with the team in 1986. Popovich later became head coach of the Spurs in 1996. He has five titles on his resume, winning all five during with Tim Duncan from 1999-2014. He is also a three-time NBA coach of the year, has coached the Western Conference All-Stars three times and led the Spurs to six Western Conference finals dating back to the first ring he and Duncan won in 1999.
 
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Zbo basically a better version but it doesn't solve your problem

Still no explosiveness

Dudes like Zbo, Boozer, David West got a maximum amount they can give you each night due to lack of height/athleticism

Zbo just the best version of it

Don't get me wrong, I like Z-Bo. Old school kind of player. He'd be great to have.

But he's not the piece we need throw all our cap space at.

I just don't want the Bulls to settle again like when they crapped out in the 2010 free agency and that's how we ended up with Boozer in the first place. And then end up signing him because he's the best of what's left.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I like Z-Bo. Old school kind of player. He'd be great to have.

But he's not the piece we need throw all our cap space at.

I just don't want the Bulls to settle again like when they crapped out in the 2010 free agency and that's how we ended up with Boozer in the first place. And then end up signing him because he's the best of what's left.

I like Z-bo but I would rather the Bulls pursue Lance Stephenson and Pau Gasol.
 
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I used to like Lance, but he's got bitch tendencies. That whole blowing in Lebron ear thing, and the fighting in the locker room threw me off his bandwagon. We don't need that type of shit in our locker room. PG and Hibbert act like they ain't even gone miss dude when he's gone.

Pau for cheap is good. Like if we got a good 2 guard, got Pau and then kept Taj, DJ, Mirotic and our picks, I wouldn't be mad.
 
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No shit




Warriors Concerned Upgrading From Lee To Love Not Worth Trading Thompson
Jun 25, 2014 1:15 PM EDT


The Golden State Warriors continue to be reluctant in including Klay Thompson in their trade package for Kevin Love.

At least one member of the Warriors' front office is so high on Thompson that he wouldn't trade him in a straight-up deal for Love, according to a source.

It had been believed that the Warriors and Minnesota Timberwolves had agreed upon the central parts of a trade with Love and Kevin Martin coming to the Warriors for Thompson and David Lee.

The Warriors have reservations about whether upgrading from Lee to Love is not worth parting with Thompson.
 
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It's hard to say Jerry West is wrong about Pop

Pop has won numerous ways

He's had good players, but look how he's adjusted his team according to talent

They used to be a slow it down defensive team that revolved around the interior. He took what he had and turned them in to a faster pace euro style three point shooting team.

If he would have won last year I think it would be easier to say that.
 
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Darryl morey flippin our assets n shit

Z-Bo???

GTFO

I rather have stromile swift
 
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Asik just got traded

They need to amnesty Boozer ass right fuckin' now
 
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Report: Heat Interested In Kendrick Perkins
Jun 25, 2014 4:31 PM EDT


The Miami Heat are interested in Kendrick Perkins, according to a report from Chris Broussard.

The Heat certainly need improved interior defense, though Perkins has fallen off dramatically during his time with the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Via Chris Broussard/ESPN
 
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Asik just got traded

They need to amnesty Boozer ass right fuckin' now

Just saw that


Houston is finalizing a deal to send Omer Asik to New Orleans, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) June 26, 2014
 
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Asik for a 1st rounder shit not bad...



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Good trade for the Knicks future. Melo is definitely gone.
 
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Report: Heat Interested In Kendrick Perkins
Jun 25, 2014 4:31 PM EDT


The Miami Heat are interested in Kendrick Perkins, according to a report from Chris Broussard.

The Heat certainly need improved interior defense, though Perkins has fallen off dramatically during his time with the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Via Chris Broussard/ESPN

I had to look it up like damn OKC finally amnesty that nigga?

But they had not :hmm::lol:
 
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Warriors Interested In Parsons Deal If Rockets Need Help Unloading Lin
Jun 25, 2014 4:39 PM EDT


The Golden State Warriors may be interested in trading for Chandler Parsons if the Houston Rockets need to create cap space by attaching Jeremy Lin.

Lin first played in the NBA with the Warriors.

Parsons will be a restricted free agent and the Rockets would like to re-sign him, but they are also interested in acquiring Carmelo Anthony and/or LeBron James.

The Warriors have a $9.8 million traded player exception.

Via Marc Stein/ESPN
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I had to look it up like damn OKC finally amnesty that nigga?

But they had not :hmm::lol:

I dont know what happened, but I typed


OKC would have to amnesty him, then if he cleared the waiver wire
He could sign with who ever...


Pros:
Great locker room guy(Perk and UD would be awesome if they had young guys to school)
Tough defender
Rebounds
Play in the post season often(this year may have been his best post season outing)
Would come cheaply


Cons:
Age
Injuries
 
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I think Lin days are numbered...shit doubt he makes it thru the night
 
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I dont know what happened, but I typed


OKC would have to amnesty him, then if he cleared the waiver wire
He could sign with who ever...


Pros:
Great locker room guy(Perk and UD would be awesome if they had young guys to school)
Tough defender
Rebounds
Play in the post season often(this year may have been his best post season outing)
Would come cheaply


Cons:
Age
Injuries

Perkins is trash but for what the Heat need him to do he would be ok for cheap

The problem in OKC is he is making 9 mill a season :smh::lol:
 
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I dont know what happened, but I typed


OKC would have to amnesty him, then if he cleared the waiver wire
He could sign with who ever...


Pros:
Great locker room guy(Perk and UD would be awesome if they had young guys to school)
Tough defender
Rebounds
Play in the post season often(this year may have been his best post season outing)
Would come cheaply


Cons:
Age
Injuries
Low Basketball IQ
No clue what to do on offense
No ability to hit a open jumper (which the Heat need)
Not a great rebounder
terrible on defensive rotations
Would clog the lane rendering the Heat's offense useless at times with him on the court.

Fixed
 
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