The Annoyingly Effective Ways African and Caribbean Parents Get Their Kids to Get A’s

[rNubb]

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I realize that you want so badly to defend yourself but there is no need.


The stereotype fits those who immigrate to the US for education..In most cases these are those that were professionals and educated at home. Upper or middle class so to speak.


But don't act like there aren't many people who immigrate here from all those countries you named that bust their ass because they came from shit and don't want to go back....Don't act like american poor don't act like they are entitled and better because they were born here

What are you saying?

How and why do I need to defend myself? I didn't created a divisive thread pitting blacks folks vs black folks.

You didn't quote my not first comment in this thread.

I already distinguished in my previous posts that immigrants are a motivated group regardless of race or national origin.

These threads are fluff and fantasy to stroke the egos of some folks by bashing others folks.

There is no better or worst. There is no upper class or lower class.

Folks love to cherry pick these versus theme topics.

 

[Flawless]

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The school district my daughter and grandson go to has something called skyward which allows you to monitor grades missing assignments class attendance and any comments the teachers input.

Its great because you don't have to wait for conferences or report cards to see if they are struggling.

Now my grandson is like you were with the video games and tv so its simple.

During the school week no tv before 8:00 pm and in bed before 10. Video games on the weekend after chores and only three hours in a day.

Always check the website on Friday and if there are missing assignments then you will spend the weekend doing them...

And of course any help he needs with anything .

But I have to keep him focused.

Bro you might want to ease up because research has shown that a parenting style like that does not guarantee your kids will be successful later in life

 

[ballscout1]

Bro you might want to ease up because research has shown that a parenting style like that does not guarantee your kids will be successful later in life

It was needed for him..when I got him he had a lot of issues and not a lot of foundation....

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[woodchuck]

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Bro you might want to ease up because research has shown that a parenting style like that does not guarantee your kids will be successful later in life

I can agree with this, but I can only speak for our 3 boys. We monitored them, but we didn't place time limits on what they did, and 2 of them were on the Dean's List. We only made sure that they did what they were supposed to do. I have a friend that did place time limits on stuff, and both of her kids ended up on the Dean's List, so it depends on the kid, I guess.

 

[Better]

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Bro you might want to ease up because research has shown that a parenting style like that does not guarantee your kids will be successful later in life

Absolutely. Because it is well documented that being lenient on children is the surest way for them to achieve great success academically and later in their careers.

 

[Drayonis]

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Why is every black foreign nation so fucked up with a nation full of foreign black parents?

From Cape town to Lagos to Nairobi to Dominica to Haiti to Jamaica to Grenada to Panama to the Bahamas.

It's harder to make it there than it is here. Education is free and the government is more geared towards success. You have roads that are fully constructed that lead to the school, where in other countries, you walking on grass and stone to get where you have to go.

My parents laughed when how Black Americans have everything in front of them but won't take advantage. My dad came to America with $300 dollars and no where to live. He's retired now and owns 5 homes....

My Mom was a nurses aid and my dad was carpenter. No real education outside of some college....take it as you will.

 

[Africanama]

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Its simple really. No one owes you shit.

Except for repartitions.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

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man...

 

[Megatron X]

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You didn't lay the path.

The people who came before us did.

Some of them have no respect for us because they can't understand why we don't take full advantage of everything that's available.

Through my uncle, I've met A LOT of Caribbeans from NYC, and some of those people have done incredibly well for themselves. I know a lot of black millionaires from the Caribbean.

The United States is not perfect, but it is the land of opportunity.

There are people who think I contradict myself because I decry white supremacy but call the US the land of opportunity.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

Things could be A LOT better, but I've seen close family members and relatives make a hell of a life for themselves. I've had a subscription to Black Enterprise for forever, and I've read the stories.

I've networked with black entrepreneurs in Atlanta, DC, Charlotte, and NYC -- and to hear what some of these people have accomplished under the radar would blow a lot of black people's minds.

So, yes, it is the land of opportunity, but it creates too many unnecessary hurdles for blacks.

Where did I say I laid the path? Also, Where does this myth come from that black Americans don't take advantage of whatever you're talking about. I keep hearing the same Old cliché statements. Give me a examples of what we don't take advantage of. Or are you just repeating what you heard somebody else said. Can you do your thinking for once. It's funny to me that people just point to the Caribbean or African people who are successful. Driving a cab for owning a corner store or mechanic shop is not so successful to me.

They have to come to the US to be successful. Why can't they try to be successful in the own country by fixing it up?

 

[Spectrum]

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How did this become a black thing? I thought this was an immigrant thing. In many areas, immigrants in America do perform higher than Americans who were born on American soil. But it's a really convoluted theory as to why it happens. And it's not all immigrants. It's really "1.5" generation : Children who were born in another country and immigrated before they were teenagers. Teachers and sociologists call it the "immigrant paradox”. The story is a bit different for second generation immigrants who were born in the U.S. It's a unique set of circumstances for "some" immigrants so comparing them to the native population isn't fair anyway.

 

[rNubb]

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It's harder to make it there than it is here. Education is free and the government is more geared towards success. You have roads that are fully constructed that lead to the school, where in other countries, you walking on grass and stone to get where you have to go.

My parents laughed when how Black Americans have everything in front of them but won't take advantage. My dad came to America with $300 dollars and no where to live. He's retired now and owns 5 homes....

My Mom was a nurses aid and my dad was carpenter. No real education outside of some college....take it as you will.

I don't have a problem with your statement in theory but in reality it is silly.

It's silly because it is not factoring in the different challenges that different people must overcome. I homeschooled my children and my old enough children all have degrees and graduated summa cum laude. I didn't receive no governmental or community assistance.

I listed a bunch of black countries which have more social, political, educational and economic pitfalls than the US.

Why is this a reality when we have tangible evidence that folks from those country can come to the US and functions as model citizens and contributors to this US system? Do they need a white man's educations, a white man's sponsorship and a white man's system to excel? Don't just tell me there is a lack of opportunity because this is the same excuse offered by underachieving Black Americans. Why can't more black people prosper and function in a capacity to improve their own black country of national origin? Are foreign blacks more driven to please the white man and to live in the white man's shadow?

I am asking these question just to illustrate or to point out that we all have our bizarre non self serving challenges.

I know African Americans struggle with the curse and blessing of self determination.

This ain't a new problem. It a survival response that still infects our people while most immigrants are not afflicted at the same rate.

We have to throw out these notions of a black hierarchy. It is all an illusion. No brother is greater than another.

 

[kefta]

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I don't have a problem with your statement in theory but in reality it is silly.

It's silly because it is not factoring in the different challenges that different people must overcome. I homeschooled my children and my old enough children all have degrees and graduated summa cum laude. I didn't receive no governmental or community assistance.

I listed a bunch of black countries which have more social, political, educational and economic pitfalls than the US.

Why is this a reality when we have tangible evidence that folks from those country can come to the US and functions as model citizens and contributors to this US system? Do they need a white man's educations, a white man's sponsorship and a white man's system to excel? Don't just tell me there is a lack of opportunity because this is the same excuse offered by underachieving Black Americans. Why can't more black people prosper and function in a capacity to improve their own black country of national origin? Are foreign blacks more driven to please the white man and to live in the white man's shadow?

I am asking these question just to illustrate to point out that we all have our bizarre non self serving challenges.

I am know African Americans struggle with the curse and blessing of self determination.

This ain't a new problem. It a survival response that still infects our people most immigrant are afflicted.

We have to throw out these notions of a black hierarchy. It is all an illusion. No brother is greater than another.

Thank You for This.

Sorry to say but this is one of those threads where "slaves are competing to be slaves" or "victims of racism/white supremacy are competing to be victims of racism/white supremacy". Sorry but I do not mean to offend anyone.

But yeah, No brother is greater than another

 

[Better]

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If you need examples...

...then the portion in red is anti-immigrant, faux elitism.

Where did I say I laid the path? Also, Where does this myth come from that black Americans don't take advantage of whatever you're talking about. I keep hearing the same Old cliché statements. Give me a examples of what we don't take advantage of. Or are you just repeating what you heard somebody else said. Can you do your thinking for once. It's funny to me that people just point to the Caribbean or African people who are successful. Driving a cab for owning a corner store or mechanic shop is not so successful to me.

They have to come to the US to be successful. Why can't they try to be successful in the own country by fixing it up?

 

[playahaitian]

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You're included.

I KNOW....

we saying we need a parody vid too.

Because each island has its own uniqueness of methods...

 

[Tha Baldavenger]

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Coming up in a Jamaican household I knew that not going to college wasn't an option. both my brother and i are college grads and we were brought up to work hard, and do the best in everything we do...dad and mom didn't play that

 

[lazarus]

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Bullshit propaganda. Immigrants are a differen breed for the reason they are immigrants. You can't say that's how everyone in their homeland is that way and you can't compare them to natives of said country dumb article.

 

[The Jamaican]

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Except for repartitions.

That is past due.

 

[Drayonis]

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Bullshit propaganda. Immigrants are a differen breed for the reason they are immigrants. You can't say that's how everyone in their homeland is that way and you can't compare them to natives of said country dumb article.

This I also agree with. People who have drive to leave also have drive to be successful. I remember my dad being deported twice in St.croix and coming back. He told me once he was in the US virgin Islands. And his work visa expired and he it was raining and he had no where to go...he stayed in the rain the street freezing and he said "I'm not going back, no matter what".....

 

[Black Radical]

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I won't even argue w/ someone who will deny this.

Thing is, I've seen see that attitude in all races. They're struggling, but want to look down on someone who is willing to come here and work their asses off.

Kind of fuck shit is that?

Poverty alone isn't doing us down. Its the lack of strong cultural ties, which gives way to popular culture influencing the things we value. It is all about values and expectations.

Lax ass parenting will do it everytime. Anything goes, dont put time in, dont set boundaries, dont provide guidance dont think about your kids future, dont do shit but send them to school and let anybody watch them. I have a cousin like this. Her son is gonna end up in prison and he's 8 now, but how he's being raised, this is how it ends more often than not.

I have another cousin, good person, horrible parent. She's too weak, never demanded anything from her son, bought him everything, lived in section 8 housing, let him do as he pleased with little repurcussions and where did he end up? In prison. twice. And hes 21 or some shit. She didn't have a bad house by any stretch, shes not ghetto or hood AT ALL, shes actually pretty sweet, but she lives in the hood, she goes to work everyday and didn't lay any groundwork for success with her son. No values placed on education and no expectation of success.

Values. Putting the time in matters, and putting the right values in your child's head matters.


BTW, these skits were pretty funny.

Anerican blacks had this at one time. You used to always hear:
"Get your education, thats one thing that can't take away from you."

Heroin & Crack, did a lot to diminish that.

 

[cashwhisperer]

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[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

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I don't have a problem with your statement in theory but in reality it is silly.

It's silly because it is not factoring in the different challenges that different people must overcome. I homeschooled my children and my old enough children all have degrees and graduated summa cum laude. I didn't receive no governmental or community assistance.

I listed a bunch of black countries which have more social, political, educational and economic pitfalls than the US.

Why is this a reality when we have tangible evidence that folks from those country can come to the US and functions as model citizens and contributors to this US system? Do they need a white man's educations, a white man's sponsorship and a white man's system to excel? Don't just tell me there is a lack of opportunity because this is the same excuse offered by underachieving Black Americans. Why can't more black people prosper and function in a capacity to improve their own black country of national origin? Are foreign blacks more driven to please the white man and to live in the white man's shadow?

I am asking these question just to illustrate to point out that we all have our bizarre non self serving challenges.

I am know African Americans struggle with the curse and blessing of self determination.

This ain't a new problem. It a survival response that still infects our people most immigrant are afflicted.

We have to throw out these notions of a black hierarchy. It is all an illusion. No brother is greater than another.

Maaan!

 

[(0_0)..l.. finger]

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This incomplete without Haiti & Trinidad.

Trinidad

 

[samh32]

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It's harder to make it there than it is here. Education is free and the government is more geared towards success. You have roads that are fully constructed that lead to the school, where in other countries, you walking on grass and stone to get where you have to go.

My parents laughed when how Black Americans have everything in front of them but won't take advantage. My dad came to America with $300 dollars and no where to live. He's retired now and owns 5 homes....

My Mom was a nurses aid and my dad was carpenter. No real education outside of some college....take it as you will.

That's why your "anchor baby" azz need to learn to respect the country you call home. You could be back on the Island working on a sugar cane plantation. You talk crap about Mexicans but your parents came here illegally just like they did.

 

[brickwall92]

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If you need examples...

...then the portion in red is anti-immigrant, faux elitism.

Forreal he talked down on Owning your own cab or Mechanic shop like it's "bad' there's millions of cars on the road and many can't fix them....

 

[voodoo]

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been on my sons ass from day one and he graduates this weekend heading to Baylor University on academic scholarship. only made one C ever in IB physics and played multiple sports etc. 4.6 GPA cause I never played that shit.

 

[fabregas]

Why is every black foreign nation so fucked up with a nation full of foreign black parents?

From Cape town to Lagos to Nairobi to Dominica to Haiti to Jamaica to Grenada to Panama to the Bahamas.

What does that have to do with this thread?

Sent from Surulere, lagos. Nigeria.

 

[Joe Money]

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Caribbean and African parents don't raise kids that routinely get A's. The examples you hear about are just as exceptional as the American parents.

Parents who have education and money almost always push their children harder to get good grades because that was how they achieved their own dreams. If you are immigrating to America you usually have to have both. That's the only connection.

Of the countries that report literacy rates 7 of the bottom 10 are African countries. The sample you're seeing is very skewed.

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This is yet another bash the African American thread.

Every island and every country with a black population has an underachieving black population.

There are plenty fuck ups back home.

The very essence of being an immigrant is the drive to find and fulfill oopportunities.

This ain't just true for black immigrants. It's true for all immigrants.

Loser Irish folks stay in Ireland. The same is true for the French, German, Indian, Chinese and cambodian.

If a brother relocates from Harlem or Houston or Compton to Hong Kong then you know he is going to get shit done.

Immigrants excel because they have the drive and motivation regardless of race, creed or national origin.

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My parents are from Grenada and some of that shit is on point. West Indian parents put pressure on you from the jump. My dad's belt and my mother's mouth was enough.

I hate to say it, but black foreign parents have more discipline when it comes to their kids. A lot of what ya'll call child abuse is just a way of life.

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Why is every black foreign nation so fucked up with a nation full of foreign black parents?

From Cape town to Lagos to Nairobi to Dominica to Haiti to Jamaica to Grenada to Panama to the Bahamas.

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Something I noticed about West Indians. I could be having a conversation with them about the sport and they all of a sudden talk about how they were born in the Caribbean or their parents are from the Caribbean and they were born in the US. They actually think that because they're from the Caribbean islands that that's suppose to mean something as if they're special. But. I do laugh when they get their nigga wake up call. Some Islanders just some love to talk shit about black Americans. But yet they want to come here to US to excel which they can't for some reason in their own countries. The funny thing is they come from black countries and still can't excel. They want to go somewhere where the path is already been fought for them and they don't want to do that work. Don't talk shit about the path layers. Go back and build up that shithole country.

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It's harder to make it there than it is here. Education is free and the government is more geared towards success. You have roads that are fully constructed that lead to the school, where in other countries, you walking on grass and stone to get where you have to go.

My parents laughed when how Black Americans have everything in front of them but won't take advantage. My dad came to America with $300 dollars and no where to live. He's retired now and owns 5 homes....

My Mom was a nurses aid and my dad was carpenter. No real education outside of some college....take it as you will.