he wasnt that fat to begin with. he's poking his stomach out. there's fuckery afoot.
Man loses 40 pounds, gains a six-pack and $50,000
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It's impressive but it is possible without steroids.
Before pics are always with the stomach pushed out, it makes you look fatter. His arms and chest still have hints of muscle, so you know he used to work out but let himself go.
If he was dead ass serious and started working out hard plus followed a strict diet for 3 months, you can absolutely can change this much. That whole p90x thing did a bunch of changes in 3 months.
It just takes dedication. I wonder how many ninjas would have the willpower to do the same thing if they were promised 50K?
Before pics are always with the stomach pushed out, it makes you look fatter. His arms and chest still have hints of muscle, so you know he used to work out but let himself go.
If he was dead ass serious and started working out hard plus followed a strict diet for 3 months, you can absolutely can change this much. That whole p90x thing did a bunch of changes in 3 months.
It just takes dedication. I wonder how many ninjas would have the willpower to do the same thing if they were promised 50K?
Ok so Ill say this.....its quite impressive. However achieving those gains in 3 months 
I kinda doubt it....Its def possible however he honestly looks like someone who regularly bulks for mass gains or he's on some shit. I work out on the reg and I'm pretty fit but genetics and effort only take you so far in 3 months 
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I kinda doubt it....Its def possible however he honestly looks like someone who regularly bulks for mass gains or he's on some shit. I work out on the reg and I'm pretty fit but genetics and effort only take you so far in 3 months .
I'm not exaggerating his before photo. I'm pointing out the starting point and the finish point for 90 days. That is a miraculous transformation. It's EXTREMELY difficult to get that cut period......especially considering his starting point and ony 90 days. You can't get that much of a transformation with "moderate" weight training and hard cardio unless you were doing multiple sets of very extreme HIIT but then that's going to affect the muscle mass he built. I'm telling you the only way he got to that end result is IF the before image has been manipulated + this guy had already had experience with body building and he was returning to form.
He looks like one of those dudes on youtube who demonstrates how to fake before and after vidoes for workout transformations. I'm willing to bet he did everything he could to make that "before" pic look like that. Also, you can tell that the guy has actually trained before in the 'before" pic.
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That's not gains, that's retention
^ This....He looks like someone during their bulk phase. Like I stated, he's either on some shit or he's clearly an experienced body builder that bulks and cuts regularly.
That's not gains, that's retention
40 pounds is not going to create a lot of excess skin. The muscles probably canceled that out.
Anyhow, I found his profile. this was his schedule.
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/programs/my-nutrition/nobody4242
Basically HIIT 2 a days, cardio, daily, weight lifting and a 900 to 1500 calorie diet.
It also reads that he was a weightlifter before, so a lot of the muscle was there just behind the fat.
Agreed. That's all I'm saying. There is more to the story than what is being presented. You can't start green and gain both a large amount of MUSCLE and get his percentage of body-fat down that low in fucking 90 days at 45 while being 100 percent clean unless he has hulk genes.
I'm willing to bet
a. he manipulated the before pic (i'm not talking photoshop.. i'm talking about positioning, lighting, bloating, etc
b. that he had already been into body building and gained the extra weight BEFORE the process started in order to enhance the drastic natue of the transformation
c. wasn't clean
d. all of the above
I knew it. He bulked up before taking a "before" pic and then returned back to form. Yeah. That's possible in 90 days. Athletes do that all the time.
Also, never underestimate water retention. I started the old 'steak and egg' diet Sunday. I'm already down half a inch and 7 pounds. But I know that's nothing but water. BTW, I don't recommend doing this. I'm only going to do it a month max, or until I lose around 25 pounds.
look at his neck and shoulders in the before picture
dude has been lifting weights for years
maybe stress or an injury stopped him from lifting but when he returned to the gym muscle memory kicked in
now you add in the anabolic he took and you have those quick results
pretty damn impressive though
dude has been lifting weights for years
maybe stress or an injury stopped him from lifting but when he returned to the gym muscle memory kicked in
now you add in the anabolic he took and you have those quick results
pretty damn impressive though
Yeah, cat probably been in shape before. It's much easier to get your 'look' back(strength and endurance are different animals). If he used gear before, there is a chance it would be even easier -- much easier in some cases.
A little fat burning stack near the end, and boom..... $50,000.
@ the 12 almonds by Quaid......
A little fat burning stack near the end, and boom..... $50,000.
@ the 12 almonds by Quaid......
His looks natural. He most likely already had muscle mass under the fat.
Youre wrong bro. And imma leave it at that. And I already said in my original post that he clearly worked out before and had good mass and structure. His fat was centralized in the belly and he was not grossly overweight. You can ABSOLUTELY get those results with strict diet and cardio and moderate weight program.
You would be amazed what your body would do if you cut out 100% salt and sugar and hit a 90 day strict program with diet. A 50k carrot on a string wont hurt either. You guys act like he gained a ton of mass and size. He didn't. He is smaller and leaned the fuck out.
You said he had worked out "years ago".
This guy was likely working out a month before he took that "before" pic.
I still consistently work out...not as much as I used to though. I used to be a gym rat. That's how I know this guy (especially at 45) didn't walk into the gym "green" and have that type of transformation.
I wouldn't be amazed. My body has looked like that before. I've gone on some hardcore regiments and seen some really nice gains in 2-3 month periods. I'm trying to tell you that this is muscle memory. NO ONE is walking into a gym looking like him (while also being green) at his age and coming out like that "After" pic with just a "good" diet, basic weight lifting regiment and hardcore HIIT training. You're only getting a small part of the story. That guy has definitely trained before and most likely was training and then bulked up in order to do that "before" pic.
I'm not going to argue it anymore though. Neither of us can "prove" our position. However, I've seen people manipulate before and after pics to sell products online. The affiliate marketing industry for supplements and weight training programs is built on it. I would be willing to be anything this guy took the time and made a deliberate effort over a couple of weeks period to bloat himself up and retain a massive amount of water weight and angled himself to look like that in the "before" pick... and then worked liked hell to get "back" in shape.
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Let's be honest here, I don't know what dude did but you ain't going to the gym and look like that in 3 months, I'm guessing he ate a lot of food to make himself bloated in the before pichelll yea i going to the gym now
We dont disagree. I too don't think he took that pick fresh off the couch.
I don't disagree with anything you said here either. And that last sentence is indeed possible.
I posted a link to his blog. Think you can live on 900 calories a day and HIIT training twice a day?
3 months?? He deserved every fuckin penny
just because you cant doesnt mean everyone else cant
as a matter of fact let find that hgh thread...
You CANNOT lose that much fat and retain that much muscle without steroids. It's impossible. Specifically, on a 900 - 1500 calorie diet.
Okay...let me just say this because some of you people are coming off as really ignorant.
Yes, the results that this man has achieved can be done naturally. With my powers of estimation, I would have guessed it took him 10 to 14 months.
Boom! Now, we have a clash because supposedly it was done in 3 months - less than 100 days. Less than 100 days. Again, less than 100 days.
I'm sorry but I just don't see the muscularity in the "before picture" for him to have those remarkable results in the "after picture."
If some of y'all want to entertain this bullshit, go right ahead. Just know you're gullible.
Yes, the results that this man has achieved can be done naturally. With my powers of estimation, I would have guessed it took him 10 to 14 months.
Boom! Now, we have a clash because supposedly it was done in 3 months - less than 100 days. Less than 100 days. Again, less than 100 days.
I'm sorry but I just don't see the muscularity in the "before picture" for him to have those remarkable results in the "after picture."
If some of y'all want to entertain this bullshit, go right ahead. Just know you're gullible.
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