it's no fun if he dominates. he's just trying to get the most money possible. im not mad at him. maybe his last fight he'll come out and tyson somebody and get $50 million for 2minutes of work.
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it's no fun if he dominates. he's just trying to get the most money possible. im not mad at him. maybe his last fight he'll come out and tyson somebody and get $50 million for 2minutes of work.
Let's be real. With them brittle hands he can't KO people that much. Has to be some special odd occasion
Pretty much...his hands kinda limit the pop on those licks
Sr. said Floyd hand was boring him before the fight
Man dude is out of his weight class nicca weighing 148 on fight night, he just a blown up welterweight fighting naturally bigger men, a K.O. aint happening
Lol ol "I'm new to boxing" ass. You missed the era when he was KOing fools. YouTube is your friend
after watching it again, it doesnt look as close as many thought...myself included. tough fight but round by round i got 8-4/116-112 in favor of Floyd. i think what made the fight look closer or seem to favor Chino was Floyd backing up on the ropes all fight. Chino barely connected. not any clean, crisp shots whereas floyd had several of those neck snapping shots. No way i wanna see this fight again. They could have fought 10 more rounds and Floyd still probably wouldnt have gotten hit. Please dont do a rematch. Why should he get one? and how the hell do the Maidana camp think they actually won the fight? 
after watching it again, it doesnt look as close as many thought...myself included. tough fight but round by round i got 8-4/116-112 in favor of Floyd. i think what made the fight look closer or seem to favor Chino was Floyd backing up on the ropes all fight. Chino barely connected. not any clean, crisp shots whereas floyd had several of those neck snapping shots. No way i wanna see this fight again. They could have fought 10 more rounds and Floyd still probably wouldnt have gotten hit. Please dont do a rematch. Why should he get one? and how the hell do the Maidana camp think they actually won the fight?
Floyd won, and he should move on. Maidana can howl all he wants, but he lost the fight
nah, im not new i was just stating the impossible trying to make it possible man lol.wanted him to ko one more for the gipper yall don't want a brotha to dream
ol let's ruin a good time ass
nah, im not new i was just stating the impossible trying to make it possible man lol.wanted him to ko one more for the gipper yall don't want a brotha to dream
ol let's ruin a good time ass
Lol I feel ya. I wish for it every time. Last time it happened with Ortiz I was shocked.
Deep pockets have connections and stub hub (premium) I wouldn't be doing a rematch with a dirty fighter.
A lot of "diehards" don't even spend bread on their team like that. Maybe a $5 walmart t-shirt or blanket.
Most people streamed because they couldn't stomach seeing at theatres or bar hence why we have to endure
the mex national anthem.
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When you whole persona is based on understanding the power of an "uppity negro." Well - any semi-close fight will draw interest and controversy cause folks want to impute a loss on you.
People pay Floyd a ton of money to see him lose. Mix that in with Spanish/Mexican fighters whose fan base are notoriously racist towards Blacks - then you have people foregoing rent to pay for the fight. Dude and Robert Garcia - who I respected like a muthafucka - but realize is a dirty trainer who will do anything to win a fight, went absolute WWF villian Saturday night. Shit was crazy.
I want Floyd to fight him again. Fuck it. I want to see Floyd get dirty. Give that ninja the business while making a ton of more money off of folks who hate him.
Lastly - I don't understand why Oscar is still talking shit. His hate for Floyd is so crazy, that it's borderline obsessive.
People pay Floyd a ton of money to see him lose. Mix that in with Spanish/Mexican fighters whose fan base are notoriously racist towards Blacks - then you have people foregoing rent to pay for the fight. Dude and Robert Garcia - who I respected like a muthafucka - but realize is a dirty trainer who will do anything to win a fight, went absolute WWF villian Saturday night. Shit was crazy.
I want Floyd to fight him again. Fuck it. I want to see Floyd get dirty. Give that ninja the business while making a ton of more money off of folks who hate him.
Lastly - I don't understand why Oscar is still talking shit. His hate for Floyd is so crazy, that it's borderline obsessive.
Floyd should be 43-3...he lost to Castillo, Oscar and now Maidana. This is after he gave the blueprint to Canelo, etc...
At lightweight, Floyd would put the hurt on people. His KO rate at lightweight was very respectable. He used to be a real ass beater at lightweight. His hands are too brittle for welterweight and up. He can occassionally KO welters, but he takes the chance of breaking his hands.
DLH said that shit?
DLH was beating him early though but he stopped popping his jab. He did have Floyd's face looking like mush...but he barely won a round after round 5. He was throwing all those flurries but not hitting anything. He could have won that fight if he had lead with his jab for the entire 12 rounds.
The Castillo fight is kind of like the Maidana fight in that Floyd had to fight for 12 rounds (castillo gave him a tougher fight than Maidana though), but considering how Floyd beat the fucking brakes off of Castillo in the rematch, I don't even listen to that shit anymore. He killed Castillo.
Maidana threw 400 more punches than Floyd but landed fewer than Floyd! That tells the entire story.
I will say this though. Floyd is lucky to be fighting now. I think a prime Shane Mosely would have beaten him in their first fight. There is no gaurantee that he would have landed that same type of punch (like he did in round 2) but a younger and prime Shane would have finished Floyd easily.
He's an all-time great and would be a great fighter in ANY era but he would have taken losses in more competitive eras.
Hell yeah he does. He'll make more from those two fights than probably the rest of his career fights collectively.
DLH said that shit?
DLH was beating him early though but he stopped popping his jab. He did have Floyd's face looking like mush...but he barely won a round after round 5. He was throwing all those flurries but not hitting anything. He could have won that fight if he had lead with his jab for the entire 12 rounds.
The Castillo fight is kind of like the Maidana fight in that Floyd had to fight for 12 rounds (castillo gave him a tougher fight than Maidana though), but considering how Floyd beat the fucking brakes off of Castillo in the rematch, I don't even listen to that shit anymore. He killed Castillo.
Maidana threw 400 more punches than Floyd but landed fewer than Floyd! That tells the entire story.
I will say this though. Floyd is lucky to be fighting now. I think a prime Shane Mosely would have beaten him in their first fight. There is no gaurantee that he would have landed that same type of punch (like he did in round 2) but a younger and prime Shane would have finished Floyd easily.
He's an all-time great and would be a great fighter in ANY era but he would have taken losses in more competitive eras.
Man - I don't think so. A prime Mosley would have to deal with a prime Mayweather. Can't have a prime Mosley vs. an older Mayweather...lol. At 140 Floyd would have definitely beat him just like he did at 147. At 147 both in primes, Floyd still got him. Mosley had no defense, he just relied on throwing quick bombs. And who would have been his trainer? His pops?
You would have to say a prime Mosley with Nazeem and now we are getting into hypos that aren't even real. Mosley signature win a 147 was Oscar and a post-wraps Margo. At 154 who did he beat? Mayorga? Who else? He lost to Winky twice and Forest twice. Y'all drinking the koolaid.Who would have beaten Floyd at 154 was Winky Wright and Vernon Forest. Same reason Oscar wanted no parts of them ninjas and Floyd backed out against Wright. That was probably his only duck of his career that is actually correct and cannot be argued.
dude got what? 1.5m. after he pays his crew and taxes, what is he left with? dude just fought for free. minus whale have just sold the belts to floyd for 500k.
At lightweight or heavyweight. I don't think defense is really the issue. There have been fighters that have given Floyd problems that were hardly defensive fighters. Being a defensive fighter is not really going to be that much of an advantage against a counterpuncher like Floyd. It's gonna be about your speed and how good your offense is. If Castillo and Chop Chop could give Floyd issues at lightweight and if Zab could give Floyd problems early (i know he's a southpaw though), Shane could and Shane is equally a good defensively as any of those fighters. The difference is that Shane hit MUCH harder than any of those guys, had power in both hands, and was a combo puncher. The issue is whether he does indeed land that one punch like he did in their previous bout. If he does, he finishes the fight. I also don't think a guy like Pacman ever really had a significant chance because he's not a KO artist in the sense that he has one hitter quitter power. He accumulates. You're not going to hit Floyd enough to accumulate that type of damage over an entire fight. You've got the first few rounds to do it or your window closes. I think guys like a prime Mosley, prime SRL, Prime Hearns,... those types of guy with power in both hands could do it. I think Sweat Pea...being faster than Floyd and being a defensive counter-puncher could possibly do it to.. Sweat Pea is the only one who could do it fighting Floyd's style
Notice that I didn't say that he automatically beats Floyd. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that he definitely has the possibility of beating him...And a prime Shane is better than anyone that Floyd has fought during their prime. That's not his fault. It's not like Floyd is beating prime Shanes or prime Sweat Peas... I'm a huge fan of his ability.. but his resume is questionable only because of his era. How many "slick" boxers has Floyd beaten during their primes. I'm not saying he couldn't... but he hasn't fought another slick young fighter in how many years?
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I'm with you - I got caught up on finishing Floyd easily. I don't think anyone could have finished Floyd easily from 130 -147. Winning- maybe sure (Prime Duran, Leonard, Robinson, Hearns). Additionally, who did Mosley knock out with one punch at 135 - 147 who was worth a damn. Mosley is strong but naw bruh - you do remember Floyd took that punch and had enough in the tank to catch the punch and started firing back immediately. I think legend has grown on that punch, but in reality Shane kept firing back and Floyd was coming right back (the youtube video is out there).
The Floyd who fought at 140 was probably top 5 of all time. Period. Dude was a KO artist with hellacious speed, movement and defense. Cotto and Hatton wanted no parts of that (neither did Shane or Oscar for that matter). Shit was stupid. At 147 he is small. Point blank. Anytime you gain 2 pounds after weigh-in and you are fighting cats at 165 - 168 something is crazy.
Once all the flash and craziness dies down. We are gonna see that Floyd was fighting all comers or tried (damn near) at something that is unique in its own right (he was fighting good fighters who outweighed him significantly) at 147. Sure Leonard, Hagler, etc.. were different times - hell the 80s era is probably the greatest in sprots history (Gretzky era, 49ers era, A's era,etc..). But nutrition and sports enhancements have allowed guys to come in at crazy weights and gain 20 lbs in one day without losing speed or stamina. Leonard wasn't exactly dealing with cats like that. It's a different era (yes Leonard fought at 154 and 160 - but he was still close to those weights himself).
Meanwhile Maidana is acting like he fought like a man or folks are calling Floyd out for sticking and moving and not necessarily always going toe to toe - while ignoring that this cat is 148 and fighting cats with no hydration clauses (cough, Manny P, cough).
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I'm talking specifically IF he had landed that type of punch like he did in that second round. Shane was 6-7 years off his prime at that point. If he lands anything like that during his prime, he would have definitely finished Floyd in that round. A testiment to Floyd in that he was smart enough to hold and Shane could never really get off after that. Then he came back out in round 3 and starting whooping Shane's ass.
I said it was a big IF, but IF he landed that type of right hand during his prime, Floyd doesn't make it out of that round...not even a chance. There was still 2 minutes left in the round.
Floyd hasn't ducked anyone. I agree with the above. I'm just saying his resume lacks all-time great fighters during their primes. I even initially said it wasn't even his fault. He's been fighting at welter for like what... 7 years now? There have been some really good fighters at welter.. but how many all-time greats? That's why I'm saying that floyd has the gift and the curse. He's going to run up an amazing record covering 20 years of professional fighting... but how is his resume truly going to look next to SRL for instance. Notice I'm not saying he's a lesser boxer than SRL. I'm just talking about resume. I think SRL was gifted a couple of close fights, but he has multiple wins against guys that are MUCH better than anyone Floyd has ever faced and he faced those guys during their primes.
So I think we have to put that into perspective. It's hard for me to TRULY judge his overall greatness because of that fact. I don't honestly know how good this guy really is. he's the greatest defensive fighter I've ever watched.... but I wonder how he could have won with such little offense against a guy like Tommy Hearns for instance. The counter-punching strategy is not going to work against a guy with that much of an advantage in reach. Hearns would have peppered him with jabs all fight. Floyd would have been forced to come out of his shell.. if ONLY to just get some offense off because counter on Hearns would not have given him much to hit given the length advantage of Hearns.
Maidana has never been knocked out. Floyd is not going to knock him out. He's probably going to dismantle him over 12 rounds though. It's probably going to look like the Guerrero fight.
He was nasty at lightweight. But top 5 of all-time? you mean across all-time at all weight-classes?
If you mean a top 5 lightweight I could get with that. He doesn't really have the resume at lightweight to call him the greatest lightweight of all-time or even top 5 of all-time. The only way Floyd can truly get himself into the top 5 of all-time is if he goes up and beats a Middleweight champ. I can't justifiably take people off that list to put Floyd there. Bhop has to rank higher than Floyd at this point and BHOP is not top 5 of all-time. Resume means A LOT in boxing man.
How in the hell do you gain 20lbs in one day?
These guys dehydrate to make weight. Then they eat and rehydrate over the next 24 hours after the weight-in. Floyd is actually one of the few fighters that actually fights at his natural weight. He trains year round. That's why it's difficult for him to make the higher weights.
I know but I think if Floyd works the body early, Maidana is food. Maidana has been knocked down several times in fights, and I think with Floyd being the architect he is, he'll dismantle him like you said, leading to a KO.
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Understood - I can see it.
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