What other races practiced racism

[water]

Tania died in hospital on January 30, a day after being beaten up by several shopkeepers in south Delhi's Lajpat Nagar area following an argument over his appearance and clothing.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26222493


Will then, Indians of African descent, the Siddis, settled in Gujarat, Maharashtra and Karnataka ever be truly accepted as Indians? Would Ugandans, if they settled down in India, ever become citizens with full rights, just the way 12,000 Indians have in Uganda? If Indians from the Northeast are not accepted into the mainstream, does that then weaken the case for Arunachal Pradesh being an integral part of India? If indeed mainstream India is unwilling to accept the Northeasterner’s Indianness, why then is the Kashmiri’s position questioned? Is the Indian Kashmiri’s applause for Pakistan at a cricket match as much a betrayal as a resident Indian supporting the Indian team against England in England? The answers probably lie in the larger issue of who is an Indian anyway.

Many Hindus still believe that they are the true settlers of India. Muslims, they maintain, became settlers only through invasion, and Christians through missionary imposition. On the other hand, Muslims — and many Hindus — believe that cultural assimilation is the true strength of the country; while some regard aboriginals as the only original inhabitants of India. Whatever the merits of the debate, once cultural and ethnic contamination — rather than purity — is accepted as the overriding theme of Indian identity, questions of who is Indian become redundant.

Till then, Assamese women will continue to be groped on the metro; at bus stops, Mizo nurses on their way home will be seen by many passing motorists as easy prey. Africans anywhere will be presumed to be drug addicts and suppliers. The enforcing of such stereotypes is a cultural flaw, an acid test for an urban culture that oscillates between modernity, tradition and barbarity, often in the same breath. However long a Ugandan woman may live in a Delhi mohalla, or an Arunachal girl in a Bangalore suburb, they will not be invited to join the residents’ welfare association. Sadly, the stamp of “Resident Alien” is permanently fixed on their ethnicity. The Indian is an unforgiving and ruthless host, living by the rules of some imaginary past, uncomfortable in the rapidly changing present, and completely disconnected with his future in the city.
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/the-great-indian-racist/article5681976.ece

How many races are there in India?

All i see in that article are nationalities: Ugandans, Indian, Pakistani

Give me the names of the races practicing racism in that article.

 

[water]

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[kefta]

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There is only one race and that is the white race that practices racism/white supremacy!

 

[water]

There is only one race and that is the white race that practices racism/white supremacy!

 

[BigATLslim]

there is only one race and that is the white race that practices racism/white supremacy!

boom!!!

 

[kefta]

boom!!!

 

[water]

boom!!!

 

[water]

bump

 

[II Dxnum]

bump them all.

 

[Owes]

While tribalism and inter-nation conflict have existed since the dawn of human civilization, the concept of race as we know it was not really formulated until the 17th-18th centuries, with the expansion of the transatlantic slave trade and conquest of the New World. Theories of white racial supremacy and African/indigenous inferiority were crafted to explain how certain races were fit only to be subservient and docile.

If we look at slavery previously, we can see that a person's skin colour really mattered very little; enslaved persons were captured through warfare or bought from foreign markets to work as cheap, forced labour.

For much of human history, culture mattered more than racial grouping, and this way of thinking is what led the Greeks and Romans to create their famous 'civilized-barbarian' dichotomy. I would recommend "Before Colour Prejudice: the Ancient View of Blacks" by Frank Snowden jr. as further reading to illustrate race relations in antiquity, and racism as a relatively modern concept.
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2xhu8b/did_racism_always_exist/

Ancient Roman citizens strike me as more nationalist elitist bigots than racists. They didn't hate you because of your race; you were looked down or subjugated because you weren't Roman.

It's especially funny since the whites current supremacists idolize were barbarians during the period of the Roman Republic and Empire.

 

[Owes]

If you dig down deep enough, you'll probably find that colonialism and imperialism were almost never motivated by racism or ideology, not even by religion. It was always about power and money and little else. Racism or religion (or whatever else) were just tools the rulers sometimes used to get people to do their dirty work.

PS: Mediterraneans (Southern Europeans) and Slavs (Eastern Europeans) have partial ancestry outside Europe. It shows in their features too... Mongol, Middle Eastern, etc.

Nordics (Northern European, blonde, blue eyes) are probably the purest white.

Southern Europeans may be dark skinned caucasians, but are not pure whites.

If you are looking for pure white then a pure white is definitely a person of north European, north-west European ancestry.

 

[Joe Money]

If you dig down deep enough, you'll probably find that colonialism and imperialism were almost never motivated by racism or ideology, not even by religion. It was always about power and money and little else. Racism or religion (or whatever else) were just tools the rulers sometimes used to get people to do their dirty work.

PS: Mediterraneans (Southern Europeans) and Slavs (Eastern Europeans) have partial ancestry outside Europe. It shows in their features too... Mongol, Middle Eastern, etc.

Nordics (Northern European, blonde, blue eyes) are probably the purest white.

Southern Europeans may be dark skinned caucasians, but are not pure whites.

If you are looking for pure white then a pure white is definitely a person of north European, north-west European ancestry.

Bjork is from Iceland but looks half-Asian. Didn't Ghengis Khan do so much fucking that his genes are all up in Europe as well? Or there is a lot of Inuit/Eskimo ancestry in Northern Europe?

 

[samh32]

There is only one race and that is the white race that practices racism/white supremacy!

Thank You!!! So would you please tell this guy that what he experienced trying to become a teacher in South Korea wasn't racism. Because we clearly know that Asians are not racist! They have no power!

AN AMERICAN teacher claims he was denied a job in a South Korean school because of his skin colour.

Sean Jones said he was on his way to a job interview in the capital Seoul when he received a text message from a recruiter which stopped him in his tracks.

“Hey Sean. Sorry they just told me they actually want a white teacher” the message read.

Despite more than two years teaching experience, having the correct certification and intermediate Korean, Mr Jones said he was turned down before the interview process began.

But his shock didn’t end there.

The 30-year-old told the Korea Observer he received a similar message two days later on his Facebook page informing him “my school is one of those who don’t hire black people”.

The Oklahoma resident said it was blatant racism and if South Korea wanted to teach its students about western culture than children should be exposed to all people of western culture.

A spokeswoman at the English language academy in Seoul told the Observer it often has to eliminate certain candidates because their students are very young and scared of strange foreigners.

She said the school had already found someone when the recruiter had contacted Sean for the interview.

http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/a...e-of-skin-colour/story-fnh81fz8-1227129513228

 

[4 Dimensional]

Thank You!!! So would you please tell this guy that what he experienced trying to become a teacher in South Korea wasn't racism. Because we clearly know that Asians are not racist! They have no power!

AN AMERICAN teacher claims he was denied a job in a South Korean school because of his skin colour.

Sean Jones said he was on his way to a job interview in the capital Seoul when he received a text message from a recruiter which stopped him in his tracks.

“Hey Sean. Sorry they just told me they actually want a white teacher” the message read.

Despite more than two years teaching experience, having the correct certification and intermediate Korean, Mr Jones said he was turned down before the interview process began.

But his shock didn’t end there.


The 30-year-old told the Korea Observer he received a similar message two days later on his Facebook page informing him “my school is one of those who don’t hire black people”.

The Oklahoma resident said it was blatant racism and if South Korea wanted to teach its students about western culture than children should be exposed to all people of western culture.

A spokeswoman at the English language academy in Seoul told the Observer it often has to eliminate certain candidates because their students are very young and scared of strange foreigners.

She said the school had already found someone when the recruiter had contacted Sean for the interview.

http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/a...e-of-skin-colour/story-fnh81fz8-1227129513228

Imo, that's discrimination and not racism. I do not interchange the two.

 

[Owes]

Bjork is from Iceland but looks half-Asian. Didn't Ghengis Khan do so much fucking that his genes are all up in Europe as well? Or there is a lot of Inuit/Eskimo ancestry in Northern Europe?

yep

I saw a video of a German girl who I swore looked Asian, she looked kind of odd in general, but overall I didn't think Germany had much Asiatic influence as I haven't seen many Germans with that look. I know Mongolians traveled far west which is why Germany, Poland, Russian all have some Asian features even President Putin, and all presidents before etc. even south to of Eastern Europe. All have round face, Asian eyes, lips and even hands etc.

I've seen Russians who definitely look Eurasian, and in Finland too. They are seldom considered part of the pure Aryan race because of Mongoloid admixture.

 

[samh32]

Imo, that's discrimination and not racism. I do not interchange the two.

So why did they "discriminate" against him ?

 

[Owes]

So why did they "discriminate" against him ?

Xenophobia? The world is filled with it.

Racism? That is a European invention.

There are numerous examples in Europe, from the period at the very cusp of the advent of racism, of black Africans marrying into white groups without any shame or stigma. (It may have been a novelty effect overwhelming general xenophobia, but it definitely happened.)

It was not until Linnaeus began putting all life into boxes that people began to write philosophical and proto-scientific texts explaining that specific groups throughout the entire world were "higher" or "lower". That was a Western European invention.

The Chinese had texts detailing the superiority of the Chinese, but they had no texts rating other peoples by imagined qualities. The same is true of the Romans.

Only in the Western European-controlled Americas did the notion arise that a person could be singled out for slavery simply by their appearance. Prior to the Atlantic slave trade, slaves were simply war captives. Once the Atlantic slave trade got going, laws were passed to inhibit the freeing of slaves because of their "low" status and, in some places, laws were passed that permitted the re-enslavement of persons based on their appearance.

 

[Owes]

Most slave systems (See Patternson's global survey) tended to integrative, that is the slave, or his or her immediate descendants eventually were integrated into the "new" society. The Americas' system was a stark departure. Once in, no exit -- with very few exceptions, and those declined with time.

Contrast this with the Islamic system where freeng slaves was considered a 'good work' and the ideology of Umm Walid, mother of my child ensured a relatively high first generation rate of freeing for women. (Specific injunction actually, but the ideology which supported the legal principle is important.

 

[Owes]

The insecurity of whites are in my opinion is the reason for the worlds ills, as many of you made clear, whites are the masters of the modern world...but how did they get to that point well due to their inherited insecurity as we see today...

Are you really proud that whites have virtually destroyed the planet and has made everyone sick... Are whites really proud that they have killed Billions of Black/Brown/Asian and whites than more ppl in history than any other race in the world? are white proud that they have created new sub groups such as Mezitos and Mulattos due to rape and slave breeding....

So while you all throw insults at me ... I dont care white people have never fazed me at all... and one more thing In a European constructed system which has been in existence for only 600 years max... for every step forwards for whites is four steps back for the whole world ..... As we watch and wait till the Europeans start WWW3 again due to their insecurity and selfish ways, I think to myself "wow I am so happy white people are thinking about the rest of the world, as they prepare for thermo nuclear war" .... whites have no respect for the world, and thus have put it to the brink of collapse .....So which would you choose Mud huts in a lush paradise of Africa or burned out nuked building.

 

[samh32]

Xenophobia? The world is filled with it.

So this is how the Korean "Xenophobia" view the Caucasian woman.

 

[kefta]

So why did they "discriminate" against him ?

So this is how the Korean "Xenophobia" view the Caucasian woman.

They learnt from the racist man and racist woman (white people that practice racism/white supremacy).

Do not mix the two. Discrimination and racism/white supremacy.

Again, There is only one race and that is the white race that practices racism/white supremacy!

 

[samh32]

They learnt from the racist man and racist woman (white people that practice racism/white supremacy).

Do not mix the two. Discrimination and racism/white supremacy.

Again, There is only one race and that is the white race that practices racism/white supremacy!

Oh okay...they learnt it... This will be my final entry in the thread. I will the let those who job it is to define words have the last say.



Dictionaries define the word as follows:

The Oxford English Dictionary defines racism as the "belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races" and the expression of such prejudice.

Merriam-Webster's Dictionary defines it as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority or inferiority of a particular racial group, and alternatively that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief.

The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism as: "the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others."

 

[kefta]

Oh okay...they learnt it... This will be my final entry in the thread. I will the let those who job it is to define words have the last say.

Dictionaries define the word as follows:

The Oxford English Dictionary defines racism as the "belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races" and the expression of such prejudice.

Merriam-Webster's Dictionary defines it as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority or inferiority of a particular racial group, and alternatively that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief.

The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism as: "the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others."

Giving up definitions by the usual suspects themselves. Not a good look. Try looking up the definition of racism/white supremacy by Neely Fuller Jr., Dr. Cress Welsing or Dr Claud Anderson.

White people definitions are irrelevant in day and time. Why? because they are intended to mask the truth and promote confusion.

Again, There is only one race and that is the white race that practices racism/white supremacy!

 

[gene cisco]

Oh okay...they learnt it... This will be my final entry in the thread. I will the let those who job it is to define words have the last say.



Dictionaries define the word as follows:

The Oxford English Dictionary defines racism as the "belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races" and the expression of such prejudice.

Merriam-Webster's Dictionary defines it as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority or inferiority of a particular racial group, and alternatively that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief.

The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism as: "the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others."

There is a dictionary definition and one put forth by sociologists. As with anything, people will choose the definitions that best suit their arguments.

 

[kefta]

There is a dictionary definition and one put forth by sociologists. As with anything, people will choose the definitions that best suit their arguments.

No.

people will present the definitions that support the evidence and reveal the truth.

Please don't get it twisted. Its about revealing the truth and supporting the evidence. Nothing to do with arguments or emotions. It is what it is.

 

[gene cisco]

No.

people will present the definitions that support the evidence and reveal the truth.

Please don't get it twisted. Its about revealing the truth and supporting the evidence. Nothing to do with arguments or emotions. It is what it is.

No, people deal with definitions that support their versions of the truth. That's just people. The point is that there are different DEFINITIONS of racism.

And what is the truth? Is it that humans tend to do shit they can get away with?

But to the point about Asians(some), they were already racist by dictionary definition, but they believed in isolation. Europeans showed them how important expansion was. So if China becomes world dominant, do we create another definition for their version of bias?

Also, remember context. In recorded history, whites were the first to take their bullshit on the road to all parts of the globe IN a successful back-and-forth manner.

 

[mangobob79]

it was really interesting readin the replies!! somethings never change, the constant deflection and cac rationalization

 

[mangobob79]

CLASSIC MOONISM!
CAN BLACK PEOPLE BE RACISTS?

 

[Owes]

Black Men don't need to worry about divorce rape because no one in our community is getting married. It's all about child support extortion right now. The conservatives have recognized that they can get far more money in aggregate from encouraging enforcement of child support orders than trying to promote increased marriage rates in the Black community (which was purposely discouraged through various methods in the 80's and 90's) only to have divorces and the courts profit off of that. Children are far more lucrative to the courts than marriages.

The funny thing is there is no more need for rituals. The deep indoctrination which as occurred since the Jim Crowe era has remained unchanged and is still lasting at potent levels to present day. This was long before the lynchings. The slave masters had the house negro and the field negro to create division in the community. They purposely impregnated the Black woman to produce mulattos who would deliberately receive better treatment to further dilute the race while simultaneously dividing the community even more.

This also happened in Mexico. This is why Mexico is just now building it's economy after how many years? The conquistadors did not bring in many African slaves to that country but they purposely impregnated indigenous Americans and pit the mestizos against the pure breeds, at the end of the day both were treated like shit relative to a pure Spaniard.

Today the Mexicans have overcome the tendency to prefer hiring and associating with those of fairer skin and value those with "Sangre Puro" and are getting back to having serious (not superficial) pride in their roots. I think what it comes down to is that the Spaniards were not as sophisticated in their programming compared with the British. The British were people who analyzed their subjugated kingdoms down to the finest details and developed social scientific theories on how to best keep them mildly content enough not to revolt but still disempowered enough to remain weak. Look at any former British colony vs. Spain or France and see who is doing better economically. Proof is in the pudding. The former colonies of the British with the exception of perhaps Malaysia and the United States are doing very poorly relative to their potential when it comes to commodities and resources.

The process resulting from these rather deliberate and organized efforts at subjugation have breeded some of the most dysfunctional people on the planet known to mankind. Indians have a highly dysfunctional culture compared to pre-colonialism. Black Americans are more dysfunctional than they have ever been since the civil right's movements. Somehow the effects of colonialism have had a boomerang effect. It's effects are incredibly hard to shake off. The Jews were in thousands of years of slavery, much longer than any African, but their subjugators knowledge on cultural manipulation were arcane and inferior. The Romans were the best at this but the imploded and failed before they could perfect the method.

To this day even the Nazis pale in comparison to the lasting effects of British colonialism. British colonialism is the sole reason why India is still in the garbage bin, why African Americans can't get it together, why Argentina continues to declare bankruptcy like buffoons and why most African countries remain impoverished (Gotta love Cecil Rhodes and Co.!!!). Chile has it's up and down years but they are fucked up too for the most part. Chileans are hung up on skin color as well. Over there and in Peru they can't seem to get past skin color either. "White is Right" as far as those countries are considered, still.

 

[BigATLslim]

Black Men don't need to worry about divorce rape because no one in our community is getting married. It's all about child support extortion right now. The conservatives have recognized that they can get far more money in aggregate from encouraging enforcement of child support orders than trying to promote increased marriage rates in the Black community (which was purposely discouraged through various methods in the 80's and 90's) only to have divorces and the courts profit off of that. Children are far more lucrative to the courts than marriages.

The funny thing is there is no more need for rituals. The deep indoctrination which as occurred since the Jim Crowe era has remained unchanged and is still lasting at potent levels to present day. This was long before the lynchings. The slave masters had the house negro and the field negro to create division in the community. They purposely impregnated the Black woman to produce mulattos who would deliberately receive better treatment to further dilute the race while simultaneously dividing the community even more.

This also happened in Mexico. This is why Mexico is just now building it's economy after how many years? The conquistadors did not bring in many African slaves to that country but they purposely impregnated indigenous Americans and pit the mestizos against the pure breeds, at the end of the day both were treated like shit relative to a pure Spaniard.

Today the Mexicans have overcome the tendency to prefer hiring and associating with those of fairer skin and value those with "Sangre Puro" and are getting back to having serious (not superficial) pride in their roots. I think what it comes down to is that the Spaniards were not as sophisticated in their programming compared with the British. The British were people who analyzed their subjugated kingdoms down to the finest details and developed social scientific theories on how to best keep them mildly content enough not to revolt but still disempowered enough to remain weak. Look at any former British colony vs. Spain or France and see who is doing better economically. Proof is in the pudding. The former colonies of the British with the exception of perhaps Malaysia and the United States are doing very poorly relative to their potential when it comes to commodities and resources.

The process resulting from these rather deliberate and organized efforts at subjugation have breeded some of the most dysfunctional people on the planet known to mankind. Indians have a highly dysfunctional culture compared to pre-colonialism. Black Americans are more dysfunctional than they have ever been since the civil right's movements. Somehow the effects of colonialism have had a boomerang effect. It's effects are incredibly hard to shake off. The Jews were in thousands of years of slavery, much longer than any African, but their subjugators knowledge on cultural manipulation were arcane and inferior. The Romans were the best at this but the imploded and failed before they could perfect the method.

To this day even the Nazis pale in comparison to the lasting effects of British colonialism. British colonialism is the sole reason why India is still in the garbage bin, why African Americans can't get it together, why Argentina continues to declare bankruptcy like buffoons and why most African countries remain impoverished (Gotta love Cecil Rhodes and Co.!!!). Chile has it's up and down years but they are fucked up too for the most part. Chileans are hung up on skin color as well. Over there and in Peru they can't seem to get past skin color either. "White is Right" as far as those countries are considered, still.

 

[kefta]

No, people deal with definitions that support their versions of the truth. That's just people. The point is that there are different DEFINITIONS of racism.

And what is the truth? Is it that humans tend to do shit they can get away with?

But to the point about Asians(some), they were already racist by dictionary definition, but they believed in isolation. Europeans showed them how important expansion was. So if China becomes world dominant, do we create another definition for their version of bias?

Also, remember context. In recorded history, whites were the first to take their bullshit on the road to all parts of the globe IN a successful back-and-forth manner.

What do you mean when you say "versions of truth"?

Truth is truth. Regardless of context.

Water is water and fire is fire. Be it in Africa, Asia or Amerikkka. Water is water and fire is fire.

 

[kefta]

it was really interesting readin the replies!! somethings never change, the constant deflection and cac rationalization

C/S!

What says gene cisco?

"Asians(some) were already racist by dictionary definition"? WTF? According to who's definition? Isolation is not equal to being racist.

 

[wadusay]

Do All So-Called "Races" Practice Skin Color Supremacy?

Mr. Neely Fuller, Jr., in his 1969 Textbook for Victims of White Supremacy, described racism as a "universal operating system of white supremacy rule and domination in which the majority of the world's white people participate."

Mr. Fuller suggested that economic forms of government such as capitalism and communism were created to perpetuate white domination and that the white "race" is really an "organization" dedicated to maintaining control over the world. In addition, he argued that people of color have never imposed "colored" supremacy on anyone. ​

Some might argue that Mr. Fuller is incorrect, and that white supremacy is simply human nature, because it is natural to discriminate against people who look different. They might also add that slavery existed all over the world long before Europeans enslaved Africans 400 years ago.

Certainly, it is true that whites AND non-whites have enslaved other human beings throughout history, but this usually happened after the victors won a war or a conflict. The victors NEVER justified this enslavement with a system of SKIN COLOR SUPREMACY. If one looks at the overwhelming historical evidence, it appears Mr. Fuller's argument may be correct.

Countless battles have been fought between warring tribes throughout human history, but those tribes never justified these wars with a system of SKIN COLOR SUPREMACY. Nowhere on earth does a system of SKIN COLOR SUPREMACY exist EXCEPT among white people (Europeans).

If it was normal (human nature) for ALL ethnic groups to kill and oppress other ethnic groups based on skin color differences alone, there would be a long HISTORY (and evidence) of such skin-color-based conflicts and systems.

For example:

• Brown people would have developed a system of brown-skin supremacy
• Red people would have developed a system of red-skin supremacy
• Black people would have developed a system of black-skin supremacy
• Yellow people would have developed a system of yellow-skin supremacy

America -- as we know it -- would be a very different nation, as would most of the world, because Native Americans, Africans, and the first (black) Australians would have murdered or enslaved the first European arrivals on sight, instead of helping them survive in the new world.


From Chapter 7 of Trojan Horse: Death of a Dark Nation

 

[water]

it was really interesting readin the replies!! somethings never change, the constant deflection and cac rationalization

Yup

 

[Owes]

Part of the genius mechanism that keeps hegemonic systems of value in place is their ability to remain concealed. It's harder to attack what can't be seen. White supremacy works via gaslighting.

I stand by my point that white supremacy is constant yet the reaction and ability to confront it is lacking in the black community. Our politicians, our church leaders, our activists will confront issues that affect us but ever the root cause which is white supremacy. Many initiatives are pushed on the black community but until we address the ways in which we eradicate white supremacy, we will always be going in circles.