When it comes to Blacks and ciminal justice most BGOL members are coons

[Black A. Camus]

Everyone here is quick to call Clarence Thomas, who is highly conservative and the only Black Supreme Court Justice, a coon. Yet, when it comes to the fates of convicted Black criminals BGOL members side with Justice Thomas. How is that not "cooning?"

As a point of reference, I refer to the USC shooter thread. http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=791615
In that thread, most who replied agreed with sentencing a young 21 year Black man to forty years--even though he didn't take a life. That's just one instance though.

With few exceptions, throughout the years, when it comes to Black convicts, and the sentences they receive, BGOL seems to believe they got what they deserved. When it's pointed out that white convicts who committed similar crimes receive less harsh sentences the BGOL consensus opines that Black's should accept that, because that's just the way it is. How is that view materially dissimilar to Clarence Thomas's view?

Clarence Thomas thinks that because he's a successful Black man, and didn't make many mistakes, that other Blacks have the same opportunities. That's why, he would say, there is no need for distinctions based on race; nor is there need for distributive justice. Moreover, he does not believe in helping disadvantaged groups. That's why I think he's a coon.

With few exceptions, in accordance with Thomas, most of BGOL believes that Black convicts don't deserve leniency. Moreover, despite blatant sentencing disparities between Blacks and other races, most BGOL members believe Black convicts deserve whatever sentences they receive, no matter how harsh. How is that not cooning like Justice Thomas?

 

[Dr. Truth]

Clarence Thomas is in a position to make change but chooses not to because he is ashamed to be black. None of us are on the most powerful bench in America and affect actual outcomes like he can. He chooses to remain quiet and bash being Black. Fuck this coon ass minstrel and to compare anything on BGOL to that pathetic house nigga is a disgrace.

 

[Black A. Camus]

Clarence Thomas is in a position to make change but chooses not to because he is ashamed to be black. None of us are on the most powerful bench in America and affect actual outcomes like he can. He chooses to remain quiet and bash being Black. Fuck this coon ass minstrel and to compare anything on BGOL to that pathetic house nigga is a disgrace.

So what? No where in that reply did I read you denounce that BGOL members agree with Thomas's views on the fates of Black criminals. You didn't even imply that BGOL members would change their views on sentencing Black convicts if they were Supreme Court Justices. So in essence, I read and replied to what you wrote for nothing, because what you wrote in no way refuted the argument I presented.

 

[Black Radical]

BLack people are victims of and influenced by the same racist system they hate. Sometimes black folks can't think through all of the indoctrination to get it right. Its a lot for the average person to deal with.

 

[MonkeyBizness]

As a point of reference, I refer to the USC shooter thread. http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=791615
In that thread, most who replied agreed with sentencing a young 21 year Black man to forty years--even though he didn't take a life. That's just one instance though.

You serious?

Someone said it in the original thread – he gets a pass because he's a bad shot?

 

[UnoBetter2]

Ahhhhh, what BGOL are you reading? Your way off base with this thread. Delete it before the wolves come and bite you in the azz!

 

[Dr. Truth]

So what? No where in that reply did I read you denounce that BGOL members agree with Thomas's views on the fates of Black criminals. You didn't even imply that BGOL members would change their views on sentencing Black convicts if they were Supreme Court Justices. So in essence, I read and replied to what you wrote for nothing, because what you wrote in no way refuted the argument I presented.

Because what your wrote was bullshit and fuck the Seahawks.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

the real truth on clarence is

he really is a puppet for george bush

sr.

 

[gene cisco]

He shot recklessly into a fucking crowd. He isn't getting 40 years for having a BB gun during a bank robbery. It's just luck that he didn't hurt anyone. He gave zero fucks when he bust, so zero fucks should be given to him.

Plenty of cases to use for the injustice system, but this is not one of them.

I could see if he lured his intended target outside of the party and THEN missed killing him. But he didn't even do that. What if an honor student got bodied that night by a stray bullet? What if just some regular person died? What if that person was your fam?

 

[Black A. Camus]

He shot recklessly into a fucking crowd. He isn't getting 40 years for having a BB gun during a bank robbery. It's just luck that he didn't hurt anyone. He gave zero fucks when he bust, so zero fucks should be given to him.

Plenty of cases to use for the injustice system, but this is not one of them.

I could see if he lured his intended target outside of the party and THEN missed killing him. But he didn't even do that. What if an honor student got bodied that night by a stray bullet? What if just some regular person died? What if that person was your fam?

I'm not trying to rehash that thread, really I'm not. I only meant to use that thread as an example: I just wanted to draw attention to the dearth of BGOL threads that decry the excessive sentences that Black convicts receive. I'm not saying there are none. Rather, I'm saying such threads are really, really, rare. That's because when it comes to Blacks and criminal justice most BGOL members are just as conservative as Justice Thomas.

 

[gene cisco]

I not trying to rehash that thread, really I'm not. I only meant to use that thread as an example: I just wanted to draw attention to the dearth of BGOL threads that decry the excessive sentences that Black convicts receive. I'm not saying there are none. Rather, I'm saying such threads are really, really, rare. That's because when it comes to Blacks and criminal justice most BGOL members are just as conservative as Justice Thomas.

I think it depends on the situation. A lot of us have buried people due to this dumb shit. Most cats on here are for letting non-violent drug offenders off(and the prison industrial complex has been built on non-violent drug offenders).

What we don't want is violent offenders getting off. 46 people shot in Chi this weekend...it's just horseshit that needs to stop.

I think we really need to break this down to non-violent and violent offenders. We can then talk about conservative opinions. Clarence Thomas wants black folks put under the prison for non-violent shit. Most on BGOL just want the gunshots to stop.

 

[RoadRage]

Man in the hood there are only a handful of kats doing 80% of the dirt.. Most of the time they get away with shit, cause everyone is scared to snitch.. But deep inside most hardworking people want them off the streets but are too scared to step up and do something... However when they do get popped, for their bullshit, they couldn't give a flying fuck..
If white boys feel good about setting their killers and child molester back out on the streets to do it again, thats on them, just as long as they stay away from my people.. But push comes to shove between some dude who decided to fire a gun shot into a crowded party filled with black or the safety of the people minding their own business, well fuck that dumb motherfucker!!!!

 

[RoadRage]

AS far as non-violent criminals getting that time, most of them fuck up because they are dumb as shit, buying money on cars and fast women instead of setting money aside for a good lawyer.. Plus most of them are dumb shit when it comes to whats legal and what isn't assuming they would get a light sentence based on the way they see the law system..
Many of them take their cases to trial when they would be much better off taking the the D.A. deal on the table.
Real dealers know the law and not only do they have money put away for a lawyer, they also make sure that the people who are close to them are taken cared of also, both lawyer situations and financial, sweeting the pot so they wont snitch..
So yeah you are going to get lighter sentences in most upper level nonviolent offenders, but yes racism does play a big role also, which makes busting gun shots in a club even dumber... Did he actually expect them CAC's to be lenient and give him a 2nd chance? If anything that should have been a major factor to consider, before doing that stupid shit..

 

[Black A. Camus]

...What we don't want is violent offenders getting off. 46 people shot in Chi this weekend...it's just horseshit that needs to stop...

You do bring up a good point. But, I don't think anyone is in favor of setting murderers free. Anyone who commits a crime should be punished in proportion to that crime. Where we differ, I think, is the punishment that Black criminals should receive, and on the issue of if the punishment is so excessive that it takes the criminal's life away--thus ruling out any notion of rehabilitation. Maybe the difference arises because, like you wrote, too many people are dying from Black on Black crime and constantly witnessing that becomes tiresome.

Perhaps you, and most other BGOL members, are in favor of harsh and excessive sentences because you've been affected by violent crime. That's understandable. Nonetheless, we differ because I believe that, after society punishes them, society can rehabilitate some Black criminals.

Granted, prison is unlikely to rehabilitate everyone, especially someone who has committed two, or more, violent crimes. But, depending on the nature of the crime, and the harm that crime caused, I think that society has a duty to rehabilitate first time offenders. Moreover, society should not forsake that duty because it feels a need to retaliate, or because it's convenient to.

 

[RoadRage]

You do bring up a good point. Moreover, I don't think anyone is in favor of setting murderers free. Anyone who commits a crime should be punished in proportion to that crime. Where we differ is the punishment they receive, and on the issue of rehabilitation. Maybe the difference arises because, like you wrote, too many people are dying from Black on Black crime.

Perhaps you, and most other BGOL members, are in favor of harsh and excessive sentences because you've been affected by violent crime. That's understandable. Nonetheless, we differ because I believe that, after society punishes them, society can rehabilitate some Black criminals.

Granted, prison is unlikely to rehabilitate everyone, especially someone who has committed two, or more, violent crimes. But, depending on the nature of the crime, and the harm that crime caused, I think that society has a duty to rehabilitate first time offenders. Moreover society should not forsake that duty to retaliate, or because it convenient.

Its not like I want harsher sentences, its more about using your intelligence. Intelligence is knowing and adapting to your environment, now if you know you live in a racist system, that will fuck you over the first chance they get, how dumb are you to be doing stupid shit throwing away your life on some bullshit? Its not like these guys are freedom fighters, these motherfucker are killing each other for shit on facebook, or some sneakers.. That shit is beyond retarded..

 

[illdog]

u.s. justice system has always been corrupt, especially in regards to race and wealth..he was actually given 40 to life, which means they can legally lock him up until he's dead. homie did some fowl shit and was made an example of because of his race, afffiliation and the crime location...

 

[Black A. Camus]

Its not like I want harsher sentences, its more about using your intelligence. Intelligence is knowing and adapting to your environment, now if you know you live in a racist system, that will fuck you over the first chance they get, how dumb are you to be doing stupid shit throwing away your life on some bullshit? Its not like these guys are freedom fighters, these motherfucker are killing each other for shit on facebook, or some sneakers.. That shit is beyond retarded..

Everybody makes mistakes. There are a plethora of variables that contribute to how bad the mistakes are that some people make--e.g., poverty, poor environment, poor education, lack of opportunities, etc. Given that, race should not determine the tolerance that society has for the mistakes its members make.

This is why there is something fundamentally wrong when Black people accept the blatant sentencing discrepancies other Blacks receive. Blacks receive harsher sentences because of the racist notion that Blacks are inferior to begin with, so second chances are wasted on them. This is why I say that most BGOL members are coons, like Clarence Thomas, when they say and expect for Black criminals to receive harsher sentences than their white counterparts. More than acknowledging sentencing discrepancies, most BGOL members would perpetuate them.

 

[yureeka9]

You sound like one of those ignorant clowns in the hood talkin about "stop snitchin" even when some idiot has robbed you, raped your woman and slapped your mother. I don't want to be around anyone that shoots into a crowd black, white or otherwise. I fully understand that the justice system is unfair to black people. But you're asking why I don't have sympathy for a fool that would have shot me for being in the wrong place at the wrong time?!? Nigga please! That dumbass needs all the time he got and then some. We as black people can't be issuing out behavior passes just because the fool is black. Wrong is wrong and that dude was wrong. So let him do his time. This isn't about color. I'd have applauded a white person getting the same time and more had he done the same crime.

 

[Black A. Camus]

You sound like one of those ignorant clowns in the hood talkin about "stop snitchin" even when some idiot has robbed you, raped your woman and slapped your mother. I don't want to be around anyone that shoots into a crowd black, white or otherwise. I fully understand that the justice system is unfair to black people. But you're asking why I don't have sympathy for a fool that would have shot me for being in the wrong place at the wrong time?!? Nigga please! That dumbass needs all the time he got and then some. We as black people can't be issuing out behavior passes just because the fool is black. Wrong is wrong and that dude was wrong. So let him do his time. This isn't about color. I'd have applauded a white person getting the same time and more had he done the same crime.

Instead of focusing on the USC shooter thread, focus on how conservative your reply sounds. More importantly, tell me how your reply differs from how Clarence Thomas would reply. You and Clarance Thomas have no differences on this issue, because when it comes to criminal justice you are just as coonish... err., I mean conservative as he is.

 

[Mello Mello]

Hypocrisy is rampant, what'chu expect?

 

[yureeka9]

Instead of focusing on the USC shooter thread, focus on how conservative your reply sounds. More importantly, tell me how your reply differs from how Clarence Thomas would reply. You and Clarance Thomas have no differences on this issue, because when it comes to criminal justice you are just as coonish... err., I mean conservative as he is.

Well let's see. Historically black people have always been socially conservative. Of course the intelligent modern black person rejects the conservative platform because it means we have to get in bed with racists. Not gonna happen. The non-thinking black rejects conservatism because it takes away from the social programs they depend on. I don't have a dog in that fight. But both the thinking and non-thinking black want to be comfortable in their environment. There isn't a society or community in the world that would co-sign an out of control youth firing into a crowd. Why do you expect the black American community to be any different? We don't abide dumbasses like this guy or the people that want to make excuses for him. The whole coon thing simply doesn't apply here. Comparing a desire to avoid stray bullets to underscoring Clarence Thomas is just ridiculous. I challenge you to find a member of the Supreme Court that WOULD give that fool a pass for the crime he committed. I'll check back later to see what you come up with. In the mean time realize that I'm the first person to call Clarence Thomas a lawn jockey for the right. I've been saying it for years and I'll continue to say it. He's a disgrace to us all. But people like you are way too far to the left and you're not doing black people any favors.

 

[southrue]

Everyone here is quick to call Clarence Thomas, who is highly conservative and the only Black Supreme Court Justice, a coon. Yet, when it comes to the fates of convicted Black criminals BGOL members side with Justice Thomas. How is that not "cooning?"

As a point of reference, I refer to the USC shooter thread. http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=791615
In that thread, most who replied agreed with sentencing a young 21 year Black man to forty years--even though he didn't take a life. That's just one instance though.

With few exceptions, throughout the years, when it comes to Black convicts, and the sentences they receive, BGOL seems to believe they got what they deserved. When it's pointed out that white convicts who committed similar crimes receive less harsh sentences the BGOL consensus opines that Black's should accept that, because that's just the way it is. How is that view materially dissimilar to Clarence Thomas's view?

Clarence Thomas thinks that because he's a successful Black man, and didn't make many mistakes, that other Blacks have the same opportunities. That's why, he would say, that there is no need for distinctions based on race; nor is there need for distributive justice. Moreover, he does not believe in helping disadvantaged groups. That's why I think he's a coon.

With few exceptions, in accordance with Thomas, most of BGOL believes that Black convicts don't deserve leniency. Moreover, despite blatant sentencing disparities between Blacks and other races, most BGOL members believe Black convicts deserve whatever sentences they receive, no matter how harsh. How is that not cooning like Justice Thomas?

Great perspective. However, are we asking for leniency based on race or do we want sentencing guidelines to apply evenly across the board. Sentencing guidelines are going to be higher for minorities because we are not choosing each others fate, not saying we should accept it but we should be aware. When you look at the jury how many are black, the prosecutor in many cases are not black and neither are the judges. While we are pushing for across the board fairness in sentencing we should also encourage our own to join the justice system and go to jury duty. When the judges who often times are old white males look at a black defendant he doesn't see his peoples face he sees depending on where he grew especially in some counties those that are "destroying" his great country. Also, in reference to sentencing your lawyer plays a big part, so if you can't afford a lawyer you're pretty much being sold up the river.

 

[carsun1000]

There is even a better solution to this disparity in the criminal justices system.Don't fucking do the crime and you won't become a data for rest of us and them to use. Instead we need to focus on how to pull the less fortunate out of this everlasting rot. If half of the black prison population were offered a job instead of crime they will still pick crime. We,ve set ourselves up for a failure even before we claimed the system set us up to fail. Tell your kids to go to school, be in their lives, monitor and mentor them. If we take the time to be in their lives half of them will turn out better than we expect especially if you know that the system does not favor you skin color. My two cents.

 

[RoadRage]

Everybody makes mistakes. There are a plethora of variables that contribute to how bad the mistakes are that some people make--e.g., poverty, poor environment, poor education, lack of opportunities, etc. Given that, race should not determine the tolerance that society has for the mistakes its members make.

This is why there is something fundamentally wrong when Black people accept the blatant sentencing discrepancies other Blacks receive. Blacks receive harsher criminals sentences than whites because of the racist notion that Blacks are inferior to begin with, so second chances are wasted on them. This is why it's Clarence Thomas like when BGOL members say and accept that Black criminals should expect to receive harsher sentences than their white counterparts. More than acknowledging that fact, most BGOL members would perpetuate it.

According to atterny.com you usually get ten years for attempted murder, Duke in the club shooting shot 4 people and got charged for 4 attempted murders, plus it was premeditated due to him going home and getting the gun... So 4 time 10 is 40 so whats the problem?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Everyone here is quick to call Clarence Thomas, who is highly conservative and the only Black Supreme Court Justice, a coon. Yet, when it comes to the fates of convicted Black criminals BGOL members side with Justice Thomas. How is that not "cooning?"

As a point of reference, I refer to the USC shooter thread. http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=791615
In that thread, most who replied agreed with sentencing a young 21 year Black man to forty years--even though he didn't take a life. That's just one instance though.

With few exceptions, throughout the years, when it comes to Black convicts, and the sentences they receive, BGOL seems to believe they got what they deserved. When it's pointed out that white convicts who committed similar crimes receive less harsh sentences the BGOL consensus opines that Black's should accept that, because that's just the way it is. How is that view materially dissimilar to Clarence Thomas's view?

Clarence Thomas thinks that because he's a successful Black man, and didn't make many mistakes, that other Blacks have the same opportunities. That's why, he would say, that there is no need for distinctions based on race; nor is there need for distributive justice. Moreover, he does not believe in helping disadvantaged groups. That's why I think he's a coon.

With few exceptions, in accordance with Thomas, most of BGOL believes that Black convicts don't deserve leniency. Moreover, despite blatant sentencing disparities between Blacks and other races, most BGOL members believe Black convicts deserve whatever sentences they receive, no matter how harsh. How is that not cooning like Justice Thomas?

Interesting.
Good points.
The response don't actually counter any of these points but are attempts to validate their thinking.

 

[Black A. Camus]

According to atterny.com you usually get ten years for attempted murder, Duke in the club shooting shot 4 people and got charged for 4 attempted murders, plus it was premeditated due to him going home and getting the gun... So 4 time 10 is 40 so whats the problem?

You said "usually" because those are only guidelines. Ultimately, though, judges have discretion on how to utilize those guidelines. Hence, the problem is that when it's a Black convict judges typically exercise their discretion more harshly than they do for white convicts.

In the USC shooting case, the judge didn't have to give the defendant 10 years for each victim he shot. Instead, the judge could have given the defendant, say, 5 years for each victim the defendant injured. In any case, it's likely that that same judge would have issued a lesser sentence to a white defendant.

 

[smiffnwessun]

this sounds like because we as black people are in an unjust system we should decry harsh sentences for other blacks that are statistically more likely to harm me or you ....was the sentence excessive absolutely but is he the guy we rally around to point out the hypocrisy in the system absolutely not.....we know what were up against but you cant excuse his actions.....I know many black judges and it's frustrating for them because they have to sentence brothers all the time who are reinforcing all of the bullshit said about black men all the time even though they are not the majority of most black men trying to operate within this system...OP is misguided with his proposition/hypothesis

 

[Better]

I don't subscribe to the 'woe is me/us' mentality.

It ultimately gets you nowhere.

My mentality is, you shape the fuck up, and then when you are being mistreated, then you come to the table with your demands. You have credibility then.

However, no one respects whiners or those who do nothing, even if they have just cause to whine. No one takes seriously someone who fucked up asking for leniency. Of course you want leniency...

...but where was that leniency when he was clapping at innocent bystanders?

Maybe I'm wrong, and if I am it is what it is, but I believe you get a lot more out of people being a hardliner than you do coddling people.

Coddling does nothing but make lazy people lazier, and bad people worse.

Human beings are capable of a lot more than even they know, but if you keep providing safety nets and holding their hands on everything, they will never have a need to dig any deeper within themselves.

I've been nose to nose with the face of death, and accepted that I was well deserving of it because of my own negligence. I got lucky. But, from that point forward, I made certain that, if there is lack or disease in my life, it will not be because of my own bad decision-making. I can only control what I can control.

Beyond that point, the chips will fall where they will.

 

[Black A. Camus]

this sounds like because we as black people are in an unjust system we should decry harsh sentences for other blacks that are statistically more likely to harm me or you ....was the sentence excessive absolutely but is he the guy we rally around to point out the hypocrisy in the system absolutely not.....we know what were up against but you cant excuse his actions.....I know many black judges and it's frustrating for them because they have to sentence brothers all the time who are reinforcing all of the bullshit said about black men all the time even though they are not the majority of most black men trying to operate within this system...OP is misguided with his proposition/hypothesis

You're implying that Black's deserve harsh sentences because they're inferior, and are incapable of being rehabilitated like other races. Otherwise you would believe that while Black criminals deserve to punished for their crimes, they don't deserve sentences that are so harsh that they rule out rehabilitation.

Again, this is why there is something fundamentally wrong when Black people accept the blatant sentencing discrepancies other Blacks receive. Blacks receive harsher sentences because of the racist notion that Blacks are inferior to begin with, so second chances are wasted on them. This is why I say that most BGOL members are coons, like Clarence Thomas, when they say and expect for Black criminals to receive harsher sentences than their white counterparts. More than acknowledging sentencing discrepancies, most BGOL members would perpetuate them.

 

[JamesATL]

 

[Black A. Camus]

I don't subscribe to the 'woe is me/us' mentality.

It ultimately gets you nowhere.

My mentality is, you shape the fuck up, and then when you are being mistreated, then you come to the table with your demands. You have credibility then.

However, no one respects whiners or those who do nothing, even if they have just cause to whine. No one takes seriously someone who fucked up asking for leniency. Of course you want leniency...

...but where was that leniency when he was clapping at innocent bystanders?

Maybe I'm wrong, and if I am it is what it is, but I believe you get a lot more out of people being a hardliner than you do coddling people.

Coddling does nothing but make lazy people lazier, and bad people worse.

Human beings are capable of a lot more than even they know, but if you keep providing safety nets and holding their hands on everything, they will never have a need to dig any deeper within themselves.

I've been nose to nose with the face of death, and accepted that I was well deserving of it because of my own negligence. I got lucky. But, from that point forward, I made certain that, if there is lack or disease in my life, it will not be because of my own bad decision-making. I can only control what I can control.

Beyond that point, the chips will fall where they will.

I respect your opinion, I really do. But even you have to admit it reeks of Clarence Thomas. When it comes to Blacks and criminal justice, even you have to admit that, you're every bit the coon Clarence Thomas is.

 

[gene cisco]

You do bring up a good point. But, I don't think anyone is in favor of setting murderers free. Anyone who commits a crime should be punished in proportion to that crime. Where we differ, I think, is the punishment that Black criminals should receive, and on the issue of if the punishment is so excessive that it takes the criminal's life away--thus ruling out any notion of rehabilitation. Maybe the difference arises because, like you wrote, too many people are dying from Black on Black crime and constantly witnessing that becomes tiresome.

Perhaps you, and most other BGOL members, are in favor of harsh and excessive sentences because you've been affected by violent crime. That's understandable. Nonetheless, we differ because I believe that, after society punishes them, society can rehabilitate some Black criminals.

Granted, prison is unlikely to rehabilitate everyone, especially someone who has committed two, or more, violent crimes. But, depending on the nature of the crime, and the harm that crime caused, I think that society has a duty to rehabilitate first time offenders. Moreover, society should not forsake that duty because it feels a need to retaliate, or because it's convenient to.

When has BGOL NOT been conservative when it comes to whites doing the same crimes(violence)? I'd like to see some examples. We tend to want all the violent fucks -- regardless of race -- locked the fuck up. Period.

Everybody makes mistakes. There are a plethora of variables that contribute to how bad the mistakes are that some people make--e.g., poverty, poor environment, poor education, lack of opportunities, etc.

Violent crime isn't a mistake. Most poor people don't commit violent crimes. Most people with little education don't commit violent crimes. Most black people don't commit violent crimes. Forgetting your car keys inside your car is a mistake. Forgetting to turn off the oven is a mistake. Forgetting to buy something at the store is a mistake.

Pointing a gun at someone and opening fire isn't a mistake. Pointing a gun at a person's head and trying to take their shit isn't a mistake. Those are willful CHOICES. Choices most humans regardless of race or social status simply don't make.

That 'everybody makes mistakes' shit is the shit one of these violent fucks family says. It's up there with the 'he was turning his life around ' horseshit.

Fuck violent criminals. Let's concentrate on the disparity with Non-violent criminals. You know, the black people who are thrown in 'con-college' with these violent fucks while white people get papers or county jail.

My views are far from conservative. I think all drugs should be decriminalized. I think non-violent offenders of the crimes leftover should get papers and/or community service. Prison should be saved for violent offenders.

 

[jack walsh13]

Stupid ass Thread by a stupid ass nigga. I'm proud I added you to the Beeiii ban list pussy. No bitch post in here neither. Fuck you, these bullshit fucked up thoughts you typed and ya Grandma Susan pussy!! Sick of this dumb shit on here man.

 

[Black A. Camus]

Violent crime isn't a mistake. Most poor people don't commit violent crimes. Most people with little education don't commit violent crimes. Most black people don't commit violent crimes. Forgetting your car keys inside your car is a mistake. Forgetting to turn off the oven is a mistake. Forgetting to buy something at the store is a mistake.

Pointing a gun at someone and opening fire isn't a mistake. Pointing a gun at a person's head and trying to take their shit isn't a mistake. Those are willful CHOICES. Choices most humans regardless of race or social status simply don't make.

That 'everybody makes mistakes' shit is the shit one of these violent fucks family says. It's up there with the 'he was turning his life around ' horseshit.

Merriam-webster.com defines mistake as (1)to understand (something or someone) incorrectly; (2)to make a wrong judgment about (something). Therefore, someone could commit a violent crime by mistake when he understands his options other than committing that violent crime incorrectly. Or, someone could commit a violent crime by mistake when out of fear, anger, or ignorance, he makes a wrong judgement and becomes violent, instead of calming down and thinking things out first.

 

[FLoss]

Stupid ass Thread by a stupid ass nigga. I'm proud I added you to the Beeiii ban list pussy. No bitch post in here neither. Fuck you, these bullshit fucked up thoughts you typed and ya Grandma Susan pussy!! Sick of this dumb shit on here man.

I think this thread is outstanding, and he makes valid points.