THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....

[dtownsfinest]

Y'all need to let that Cena to heel shit go. That shit would suck. Cena is no heel. Don't let them fans at the Superdome or shit any fans fool you to what Cena is. He's their biggest wrestler. He's their most popular. People love him or love to hate him. No one gets a bigger reaction out of people. Parents hate him but have to purchase their shit for their kids.

Think about it. You turn Cena.....all that merchandise will decline. He's too limited in the ring to be anything more than what he is.

I missed this Paige thing. How was she so over with the fans? Is there a connection there?

And I think its fucked up Naomi didn't get that title. She took that hit to the eye that fucked her push up and still IMO, the best athlete in the women's division. If you gonna drop AJ's title it should've been to her or Tamina.

No one else beat Taker at Mania. No one has that claim.

Fair enough but it does nothing for Lesnar. He's a beast. We already know it. There's nothing you can do for him. That win against Taker does nothing.

And look at Heyman with Cesaro which is a great move by the way. Lesnar is going back home to chill.

Taker should've dropped to Bray or someone.

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

So it only took 1 night for Swagger to fuck up that trophy.

this kind of was a re-do of when Bret Hart did the sane thing after "Bad News"Brown(remember him? ) won some battle royal that long time ago

 

[RiverCity]

Apr 8 Observer Radio: All the news of a busy Monday + the eccentric annual post-Mania Raw~!
http://www51.zippyshare.com/v/78587186/file.html

 

[theoriginalgreatone]

So what was the point of stone cold, rock & Hogan showing up? Are they going to be regulars or just on ppvs

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[sturmars]

So what was the point of stone cold, rock & Hogan showing up? Are they going to be regulars or just on ppvs

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Motivational Speakers. Get the Crowd hype for the show.

 

[EPDC]

So what was the point of stone cold, rock & Hogan showing up? Are they going to be regulars or just on ppvs

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30th WrestleMania. WM is like the Super Bowl for Wrestling. Same reason why you see a lot of retired football legends at the Super Bowl. Nostalgia.

 

[sturmars]

Good RAW episode last night. That crowd was live as FUCK! Bryan's opener was great. In addition to that I am now officially a Paul Heyman fan/guy. That dudes speeches are epic and plus that Cesero move was a stroke of genius. I hope they don't do him like they did Curtis Axel when he first came. That dude didn't cut it.

WWE next PPV is in NJ I might have to going to that shit being that's right in my background. I have to see the YES movement live at least once.

Couple of questions though? Where does Bryan go from here how do they make sure he doesn't get stale and out of style? If he keep fighting Triple H its going to get boring.

Are they going to reform Evolution to become REAL competition for the Shield?

The Wyatt's are white hot right now.. What's the next step for them?

Is the Undertaker done? Are they not going to have him address the streak being broken??

Will people finally get it thru their heads that CM punk isn't coming back?

 

[dtownsfinest]

Good RAW episode last night. That crowd was live as FUCK! Bryan's opener was great. In addition to that I am now officially a Paul Heyman fan/guy. That dudes speeches are epic and plus that Cesero move was a stroke of genius. I hope they don't do him like they did Curtis Axel when he first came. That dude didn't cut it.

WWE next PPV is in NJ I might have to going to that shit being that's right in my background. I have to see the YES movement live at least once.

Couple of questions though? Where does Bryan go from here how do they make sure he doesn't get stale and out of style? If he keep fighting Triple H its going to get boring.

Are they going to reform Evolution to become REAL competition for the Shield?

The Wyatt's are white hot right now.. What's the next step for them?

Is the Undertaker done? Are they not going to have him address the streak being broken??

Will people finally get it thru their heads that CM punk isn't coming back?

I hope CM Punk is truly done with wrestling for his sake because if he's doing this to get people to miss him....he's mistaken. I know there's still chants but i've only forgotten about CM Punk and have moved on from him. There's too much fresh talent to be even remembering CM Punk. And its getting to the point where guys like Bray, Bryan, The Shield and Cesaro are some new guys who are filling that void CM Punk left.

Axel is the only one to fail under Paul Heyman. I honestly don't see anything in him to be honest other than what he is. A solid guy who's potential is as a mid-carder.

They fucked up because they tried to rush his push by throwing Heyman on him. Cesaro before Heyman is where they hoped Axel would be with Heyman.

 

[tajshan]

That shit should've just went to Naomi or Tamina smh

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FOR REAL - I've never even seen this chick before...

 

[EPDC]

Watching the Main Event on WWE Network, restarted the show. The Shield faced off against the Wyatt Family. Damn good match. I could see these guys wrestle every night and not get bored.

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

RE: WWE Network..that show coming up called Legends House looks interesting

 

[EPDC]

RE: WWE Network..that show coming up called Legends House looks interesting

I read that the show is actually a few years old, that WWE tried to shop it to a cable network but couldn't sell it, and had been sitting on it. Looking forward to checking it out myself. Have a feeling them legends are all f'd up one way or another.

 

[The Pope]

Breaking news: Ultimate Warrior has died
Posted by Aaron Rift on 04/08/2014 at 11:59 PM

From WWE.com:

"WWE is shocked and deeply saddened to learn of the passing of one of the most iconic WWE Superstars ever, The Ultimate Warrior."

Triple H posted on Twitter:

"Saddened to announce the passing of the Ultimate Warrior. Icon and friend. My sympathy to his wife Dana and his daughters"




NoDQ.com > WWE > TMZ.com: Warrior collasped at hotel
Posted by Aaron Rift on 04/09/2014 at 01:01 AM

From TMZ.com:

9:52 PM PT -- Officials tell TMZ ... Warrior collapsed outside an Arizona hotel at 5:50 PM on April 8th ... while walking to his car with his wife.

Warrior was transported to a nearby hospital ... where he was pronounced dead.

 

[RealHipHop]

Woowwwww. The timing of this is crazy... RIP Warrior

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[unknownsoldier]

RIP Warrior

Watching the Main Event on WWE Network, restarted the show. The Shield faced off against the Wyatt Family. Damn good match. I could see these guys wrestle every night and not get bored.

That match at Elimination Chamber should've been saved for Wrestlemania.

 

[younggiftedandblack]

I missed this Paige thing. How was she so over with the fans? Is there a connection there?

And I think its fucked up Naomi didn't get that title. She took that hit to the eye that fucked her push up and still IMO, the best athlete in the women's division. If you gonna drop AJ's title it should've been to her or Tamina.

Paige is the NXT women's champ. She was pretty big on the indie circuit in England before WWE brought her over. She has a strong fan base and people have been waiting for her to be brought to the main roster for a while now.

Naomi's athletic, but she botches too many spots.

 

[Simply Sickenin']

Breaking news: Ultimate Warrior has died
Posted by Aaron Rift on 04/08/2014 at 11:59 PM

"WWE is shocked and deeply saddened to learn of the passing of one of the most iconic WWE Superstars ever, The Ultimate Warrior."

Holy Hell. He looked like his was doing relatively well just two days ago .... Life is fragile people.
R.I.P. Warrior.

​

I missed this Paige thing. How was she so over with the fans? Is there a connection there?

And I think its fucked up Naomi didn't get that title. She took that hit to the eye that fucked her push up and still IMO, the best athlete in the women's division. If you gonna drop AJ's title it should've been to her or Tamina.

As someone else stated, Paige is pretty big on the indy circuit and she's been gaining a lot of steam on NXT. The problem I have with her winning the title the way she won it, was that most people don't watch NXT or the indies. She got a huge pop Monday .... with the post Mania Raw crowd. Come next week when we're back to normal-ish crowd, most people are still going to be scratching their heads wondering who the hell she is. I feel like they introduce her in a way that's going to make people not like her if they're not watching NXT. If AJ had to drop the title, they should have drop it to Tamina or Naomi. Or better yet, let her retire the belt and bring back the Women's title.

​

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Y'all need to let that Cena to heel shit go. That shit would suck. Cena is no heel. Don't let them fans at the Superdome or shit any fans fool you to what Cena is. He's their biggest wrestler. He's their most popular. People love him or love to hate him. No one gets a bigger reaction out of people. Parents hate him but have to purchase their shit for their kids.


Think about it. You turn Cena.....all that merchandise will decline. He's too limited in the ring to be anything more than what he is.

They just have a hard time booking heels and Cena would be corny as shit if he turned.

I missed this Paige thing. How was she so over with the fans? Is there a connection there?

And I think its fucked up Naomi didn't get that title. She took that hit to the eye that fucked her push up and still IMO, the best athlete in the women's division. If you gonna drop AJ's title it should've been to her or Tamina.

I know she's popular on NXT but nobody watches NXT (you know what I mean) so this is sudden. If they book her well, she can get over and this is a good start but the actual match and the awkward finish looked bad.

Fair enough but it does nothing for Lesnar. He's a beast. We already know it. There's nothing you can do for him. That win against Taker does nothing.

And look at Heyman with Cesaro which is a great move by the way. Lesnar is going back home to chill.

Taker should've dropped to Bray or someone.

Yep. Lesnar gets the biggest win of anyone is at least a couple years and now he goes away, with no follow up. If it was Bray or Cesaro or Reigns, they would have gone right into the next feud.

Good RAW episode last night. That crowd was live as FUCK! Bryan's opener was great. In addition to that I am now officially a Paul Heyman fan/guy. That dudes speeches are epic and plus that Cesero move was a stroke of genius. I hope they don't do him like they did Curtis Axel when he first came. That dude didn't cut it.

WWE next PPV is in NJ I might have to going to that shit being that's right in my background. I have to see the YES movement live at least once.

Couple of questions though? Where does Bryan go from here how do they make sure he doesn't get stale and out of style? If he keep fighting Triple H its going to get boring.

Are they going to reform Evolution to become REAL competition for the Shield?

The Wyatt's are white hot right now.. What's the next step for them?

Is the Undertaker done? Are they not going to have him address the streak being broken??

Will people finally get it thru their heads that CM punk isn't coming back?

I can see them doing Bryan vs Orton and Batista through the spring but he'll probably end up with Brock for SummerSlam but since his last loss was to Bray Wyatt, they can always go back to that.

Evolution vs the Shield? Damn good idea.

Taker's not done. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they have the rematch next year.


Punk will be back, just no time soon. He's going to pull a Rock (or Brock or HHH or Taker) and go away and come back for a huge money, short term run.

As someone else stated, Paige is pretty big on the indy circuit and she's been gaining a lot of steam on NXT. The problem I have with her winning the title the way she won it, was that most people don't watch NXT or the indies. She got a huge pop Monday .... with the post Mania Raw crowd. Come next week when we're back to normal-ish crowd, most people are still going to be scratching their heads wondering who the hell she is. I feel like they introduce her in a way that's going to make people not like her if they're not watching NXT. If AJ had to drop the title, they should have drop it to Tamina or Naomi. Or better yet, let her retire the belt and bring back the Women's title.

​

Yep. If they don't go hard with this, she becomes the new Fandango (remember how hot he supposedly was?).
Glad to see Barrett back and he won. After turning Cesaro and the Shield, they needed some new heels.

 

[The Pope]

I don't think Cesaro is going face, hell I hate breaking the rule, but on the Smackdown taping results Cesaro is using some noticeable heel tactics such as leaving the ring, huddling with Heyman and a thumb to the eye.

 

[unknownsoldier]

Glad to see Barrett back and he won. After turning Cesaro and the Shield, they needed some new heels.

Has Cesaro turned? Heyman isn't a face...the people cheer for him though. They have a problem, the kids love Cena & keep his merchandise tops, but adults are giving heels so much heat...they're popular as hell. Look at how many cheers Bray gets & now the crowd does the clap when he comes out. Barrett was over with that crowd big time on Raw. They're going to have to deal with the popularity of their heels & have Cena start putting these guys over. Look at how they buried Ryback after the Cena fued. We can only hope Bray doesn't get that treatment.

 

[ViCiouS]

Paige is the NXT women's champ. She was pretty big on the indie circuit in England before WWE brought her over. She has a strong fan base and people have been waiting for her to be brought to the main roster for a while now.

Naomi's athletic, but she botches too many spots.

still - this was rushed... Tamina v AJ should have been an angle with legs... the Divas are almost as bad as the bullshit they keep doing with the tag teams...

What happened to the WWE, why can't they develop and track multiple feuds that fans care about. there used to be non title fueds + tag team champ + intercontinental + champ fueds all hotly contested and going at the same time.

 

[unknownsoldier]

What happened to the WWE, why can't they develop and track multiple feuds that fans care about. there used to be non title fueds + tag team champ + intercontinental + champ fueds all hotly contested and going at the same time.

I still say too many PPVs, the monthly deal kills feuds as they're constantly moving on to the next thing. No way that Wyatt/Shield match shouldn't have been on the Mania card, but they burned that up at EC. Look at how many matches were at WM6 compared to WM30...they've got to reduce the number of PPVs.

 

[XXXplosive]

I still say too many PPVs, the monthly deal kills feuds as they're constantly moving on to the next thing. No way that Wyatt/Shield match shouldn't have been on the Mania card, but they burned that up at EC. Look at how many matches were at WM6 compared to WM30...they've got to reduce the number of PPVs.

I agree there's too many PPVs, but there's no way WWE will reduce the number.
Monthly PPVs are here to stay, for better or for worse.
The story lines were much better when there were only the Big 4 PPVs.

 

[ViCiouS]

Has Cesaro turned? Heyman isn't a face...the people cheer for him though. They have a problem, the kids love Cena & keep his merchandise tops, but adults are giving heels so much heat...they're popular as hell. Look at how many cheers Bray gets & now the crowd does the clap when he comes out. Barrett was over with that crowd big time on Raw. They're going to have to deal with the popularity of their heels & have Cena start putting these guys over. Look at how they buried Ryback after the Cena fued. We can only hope Bray doesn't get that treatment.

Monday's crowd is not the regular crowd... Raw after WM is always the super fans show... that crowd is filled with ROH, New Japan, etc watchers and fans the one show a year with an ECW type crowd. Last year in NYC was just as crazy- maybe crazier


Barrett is not going to get heat anywhere else since Cena buried him, hopefully the fans forgot by now, and they book him wisely

 

[theoriginalgreatone]

So where is aj now?
Also, why did they unify the belts again? Why didn't they separate them yet?

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[EPDC]

I don't think Cesaro is going face, hell I hate breaking the rule, but on the Smackdown taping results Cesaro is using some noticeable heel tactics such as leaving the ring, huddling with Heyman and a thumb to the eye.

Months ago Vince mentioned they are getting rid of traditional heels and faces. This could be a start. Hell, looking back, Austin used heel tactics but was a face or antihero.

 

[unknownsoldier]

I agree there's too many PPVs, but there's no way WWE will reduce the number.
Monthly PPVs are here to stay, for better or for worse.
The story lines were much better when there were only the Big 4 PPVs.

you right fam, WCW fucked everything up with Spring Stampede...then WWF countered w/ In Your House & we've had monthly PPVs every since. Something I thought may work is keeping the big 4 on PPV w/ the satellite and cable providers and putting all the other on the network.

Monday's crowd is not the regular crowd... Raw after WM is always the super fans show... that crowd is filled with ROH, New Japan, etc watchers and fans the one show a year with an ECW type crowd. Last year in NYC was just as crazy- maybe crazier

Barrett is not going to get heat anywhere else since Cena buried him, hopefully the fans forgot by now, and they book him wisely

True, but in the 3 house shows I've gone to between 29 & 30...Cesaro has gone from no pop as that soldier to popular as hell w/ that We The People shit. Those BNB segments has taken Barrett to higher than before. Last show in Dallas, he has one of the biggest pops when he came out. I think that elbow will catch on.

 

[XXXplosive]

you right fam, WCW fucked everything up with Spring Stampede...then WWF countered w/ In Your House & we've had monthly PPVs every since. Something I thought may work is keeping the big 4 on PPV w/ the satellite and cable providers and putting all the other on the network.



True, but in the 3 house shows I've gone to between 29 & 30...Cesaro has gone from no pop as that soldier to popular as hell w/ that We The People shit. Those BNB segments has taken Barrett to higher than before. Last show in Dallas, he has one of the biggest pops when he came out. I think that elbow will catch on.

Cesaro is OVER and is looking at a title shot within the year.
Barrett on the other hand, hasn't had the same pop since Nexus broke up.
Most people could care less about the Bad News segments.
That crowd on Monday (post-WM crowd) as already mentioned, is not the typical crowd.
Remember a year ago when everybody was "Fandango-ing" for about a week or two and then eventually no one gave a shit?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

still - this was rushed... Tamina v AJ should have been an angle with legs... the Divas are almost as bad as the bullshit they keep doing with the tag teams...

What happened to the WWE, why can't they develop and track multiple feuds that fans care about. there used to be non title fueds + tag team champ + intercontinental + champ fueds all hotly contested and going at the same time.

Good question.

Has Cesaro turned? Heyman isn't a face...the people cheer for him though. They have a problem, the kids love Cena & keep his merchandise tops, but adults are giving heels so much heat...they're popular as hell. Look at how many cheers Bray gets & now the crowd does the clap when he comes out. Barrett was over with that crowd big time on Raw. They're going to have to deal with the popularity of their heels & have Cena start putting these guys over. Look at how they buried Ryback after the Cena fued. We can only hope Bray doesn't get that treatment.

Seeing what happened in that 6 man, I don't think he will.
Man, that crowd was booing the hell out of Cena's team but they loved seeing Big E hit those backbreakers on Rowan. That dude is strong.

Months ago Vince mentioned they are getting rid of traditional heels and faces. This could be a start. Hell, looking back, Austin used heel tactics but was a face or antihero.

At first, but after a while, he was just a babyface. Faces have always used heel tactics. Dusty used to cheat all the time. Same with the Rock N Roll Express.
They do think they're going to do away with heels and faces but that's doomed to fail. Someone has to be the heel and someone has to be the babyface. You can mix and match but that's still going to be the dynamic of any feud. Guys in the middle don't stay there long, not successfully.
That's why Batista's return flopped, ultimately. He came back as a face but how can they expect people to cheer for him when they tell us every week he's their "good friend" and they're going against Daniel Bryan, the hottest face in the company?

Cesaro is OVER and is looking at a title shot within the year.
Barrett on the other hand, hasn't had the same pop since Nexus broke up.
Most people could care less about the Bad News segments.
That crowd on Monday (post-WM crowd) as already mentioned, is not the typical crowd.
Remember a year ago when everybody was "Fandango-ing" for about a week or two and then eventually no one gave a shit?

Cesaro's on the verge of being a big star if they don't fuck it up or he gets injured or something.
I think he's better as a heel that gets some good pops than a full fledged face (which is where they're heading).

 

[Simply Sickenin']

Yep. If they don't go hard with this, she becomes the new Fandango (remember how hot he supposedly was?).

I would hate if that's what happen to Paige, because despite that clumsy as fuck match with AJ on Raw, Paige is actually a really good female wrestler. This whole thing seemed super forced and WAY TOO early. Had they given her a slow build in the division, she could have been the next AJ by next year. I just hope that they didn't fuck that up just to get a cheap big pop with the post Mania crowd.

A much question Paige's win bring to my mind, is do they have any idea how to bring in people from NXT into the main roster. What is Xavier Wood doing right now
They're just bringing these NXT people over with little to no build up. ​

Glad to see Barrett back and he won. After turning Cesaro and the Shield, they needed some new heels.

I love the BNB segments, but it was nice to see him actually get in the ring and wrestle. And he seems to have more fun in the ring as a heel. I hope they let him cut loose and be a old school heel. The kind of heel who would talk shit on the mic, then get in the ring and back it up by kicking ass and not cheating every week to win. ​

What happened to the WWE, why can't they develop and track multiple feuds that fans care about. there used to be non title feuds + tag team champ + intercontinental + champ feuds all hotly contested and going at the same time.

WWE's problem is that they not only don't know how to carry multiple main event storylines, but they usually end up fucking up one story or someone else's character in order to build up another story. A clear example was the bullshit they pulled with the Usos on Monday. I just re-watched that segment and I'm even more upset about it the second time. Not only did they make The Usos look weak, but they also made the tag titles look weak. Orton and Batista get handed a title shot and they couldn't have cared less. So much so that they purposefully got themselves DQ'ed because the tag titles are beneath them. Way to shit on the whole tag team division, the current tag team champs, and the prestige of the tag titles themselves.

There was no reason that they needed to bury the tag titles just to show that Orton and Batista were frustrated. They could have just had them come out and say "we're frustrated!" Or have them come out go pull a Nexus and tear up the place to get across that they were frustrated. Or any other thing that didn't involve making the Usos look weak.
​

 

[EPDC]

Lol, they found the BGOL member who was front and center when Undertaker lost at WM
https://twitter.com/EllisMbeh

 

[younggiftedandblack]

Wrestling fans are fickle and have short attention spans. DB got his push from the YES movement. But how long will it be before fans get tired of him and want a new champion?

 

[sturmars]

Wrestling fans are fickle and have short attention spans. DB got his push from the YES movement. But how long will it be before fans get tired of him and want a new champion?

It's not fickle, it's keeping it fresh. Nobidy can be champion forever. At some point you have to move the story along. The same with Undertaker's streak although I didn't want Lesnar to break it, it was time someone did it was getting played out.

As far as the YES movement eho knows that could last for years. Steve Austin started the "What" movement and that shit is still alive today.(my favorite movement)

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I would hate if that's what happen to Paige, because despite that clumsy as fuck match with AJ on Raw, Paige is actually a really good female wrestler. This whole thing seemed super forced and WAY TOO early. Had they given her a slow build in the division, she could have been the next AJ by next year. I just hope that they didn't fuck that up just to get a cheap big pop with the post Mania crowd.

A much question Paige's win bring to my mind, is do they have any idea how to bring in people from NXT into the main roster. What is Xavier Wood doing right now
They're just bringing these NXT people over with little to no build up. ​

They know how to do it, look at how they've slow cooked Rusev, so it's about how they see that talent-as someone with potential or as someone to fill some time on tv and put over "real" stars (Xavier).
The Divas division only gets so much attention, especially the ones on the reality show, but I hope they treat her and push her right.

I love the BNB segments, but it was nice to see him actually get in the ring and wrestle. And he seems to have more fun in the ring as a heel. I hope they let him cut loose and be a old school heel. The kind of heel who would talk shit on the mic, then get in the ring and back it up by kicking ass and not cheating every week to win. ​

I thought those segments were dull but I got what they were trying to do.
That asskicking heel is what he was the last time they gave him some run and it looks like he's going to be that kind of heel again. I don't mind some cheating but he should mostly win by bullhammer, not grabbing the ropes.

WWE's problem is that they not only don't know how to carry multiple main event storylines, but they usually end up fucking up one story or someone else's character in order to build up another story. A clear example was the bullshit they pulled with the Usos on Monday. I just re-watched that segment and I'm even more upset about it the second time. Not only did they make The Usos look weak, but they also made the tag titles look weak. Orton and Batista get handed a title shot and they couldn't have cared less. So much so that they purposefully got themselves DQ'ed because the tag titles are beneath them. Way to shit on the whole tag team division, the current tag team champs, and the prestige of the tag titles themselves.

There was no reason that they needed to bury the tag titles just to show that Orton and Batista were frustrated. They could have just had them come out and say "we're frustrated!" Or have them come out go pull a Nexus and tear of the place to get across that they were frustrated. Or any other thing that didn't involve making the Usos look weak.
​

That's what I was thinking too. I was hoping they were going to have at least a competitive match and then a non-finish but to have Orton and Batista squash them just undid everything they've done to build them up over the last year unless they have the Usos come back and kick the shit out of both of them (but we know they won't).
Without the Usos wanting some immediate payback, they come off looking like bitches.

It's not fickle, it's keeping it fresh. Nobidy can be champion forever. At some point you have to move the story along. The same with Undertaker's streak although I didn't want Lesnar to break it, it was time someone did it was getting played out.

As far as the YES movement eho knows that could last for years. Steve Austin started the "What" movement and that shit is still alive today.(my favorite movement)

But Bryan's lack of good promo skills will short circuit his run. He'll be in the main picture for the foreseeable but they aren't going to give him the same kind of run they gave Cena (another guy with bad or at least inconsistent promo ability).
I hope he gets a better run than Punk.

Hate the "What?" chant.

 

[Heavenlywings77]

It's not fickle, it's keeping it fresh. Nobidy can be champion forever. At some point you have to move the story along. The same with Undertaker's streak although I didn't want Lesnar to break it, it was time someone did it was getting played out.

As far as the YES movement eho knows that could last for years. Steve Austin started the "What" movement and that shit is still alive today.(my favorite movement)

Nah it's being all over the place. We used to have champions for a good amount of time, not the belt switching hands every 10 seconds. That shit is lame. And wtf @ the Undertakers streak being played out... How the hell was it played out? He had the streak going 22 years strong and it was getting better every year since 3 years ago. If it was played out you wouldn't have gotten the reactions when he lost. C'mon stop just saying stuff to say it.