6 Reasons Young Black People Are Leaving The Church

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I want to thank kefta for starting the most relevant thread I could find on the subject on the board

I did a search for this article on the board and couldn't find it anywhere.

This is NOT an attempt to bash christians, church goers, or holy rollers.

It is to open a dialogue and discuss why we as a people do not question, vet, and verify the very thing that is too be responsible for our "salvation".:hmm:

I know indoctrination is a muthaf*cka, but DAMN!!!:smh:

We are all adults.

We all know that this can be a volatile topic.

I am shooting for more critical thinking questions, than answers belittling of the board members.:)

6 Reasons Young Black People Are Leaving The Church

Social And Economic Improvements Make The Church Appear Less Relevant

Black millennials are experiencing economic and social benefits that previous generations only dreamed about. As a result, a need for faith in their lives may not have the same pull as it did in the past. Feeling judged and being told to check their generational habits at the door does not necessarily create a want for religious life either.

The Church Appears To Be Old And Stagnant

Christianity and young people’s culture have always clashed. More than ever– the digitalized, global community we live in demands that the church constantly elevate how it will be relevant to this and emerging generations. As the church seeks to preserve tradition, it constantly will be faced with resistance from rebellious young people. The church continues to alienate young people with old stagnant ideas that young people don’t view as innovative enough to keep up with their lives in the digital age.

Young Evangelicals Feel They Have to Choose Between Their Intellectual Integrity And Their Faith

Millennials long for faith communities in which they are safe asking tough questions and wrestling with doubt. Up to one-third of young people say the church is out of step on scientific developments and debate.

Disagreement With Passages In The Bible On Slavery And Genocide

Slavery is one of the biggest atrocities in human history. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments. The Bible clearly speaks of slavery in many passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.
Young people are now waking up to the fact that Christianity and the Bible was used as a tool to control their ancestors, and that’s not a narrative they want to be a part of.

Sex

The church is perceived as simplistic and judgmental. For a fifth or more, a “just say no” philosophy is insufficient in a fast-paced world. According to researchers at Yale and Columbia University, young Christian singles are as sexually active as their non-churched friends, and many say they feel judged.
Young people want to be challenged to live lives of holiness, not only when it comes to sex, but also when it comes to living simply, caring for the poor and oppressed, pursuing reconciliation, engaging in creation care and becoming peacemakers.

They Are Tired of Pretending

Some segments of Christianity suggest that being a Christian removes all struggle from life. But that message rings hollow for many kids who try to serve God and continue to face difficult challenges … or who see their parents teach a similar message while succumbing to anger or depression themselves. Many youth feel Christianity leaves no room for authenticity.
 
As a daughter of a preacher, I can tell you why I stopped going. The people in the church is more wicked than the people outside. Every evil thing you can think of, is being done in the church. I never seen so many cliques formed since High School. Ive never meet so many unfriendly people in my life. :smh:

I love the Lord but I can't waste time on foolishness.
 
As a daughter of a preacher, I can tell you why I stopped going. The people in the church is more wicked than the people outside. Every evil thing you can think of, is being done in the church. I never seen so many cliques formed since High School. Ive never meet so many unfriendly people in my life. :smh:

I love the Lord but I can't waste time on foolishness.

I have seen this more and more recently. The most 'devout' believers who put their kids into church early and often seem to have actually turned those kids AWAY from the church because by being SO involved and for so long they see the inner working and the hypocrisy.

For a child to see adults doing one thing and saying something COMPLETELY different every week and in the name of the Lord?

And then being given so many excuses about forgiveness for SOME people and not others and THOSE people are bad but WE are good although we are doing the EXACT same things.

Kids are smarter then we give them credit for.
 
As a daughter of a preacher, I can tell you why I stopped going. The people in the church is more wicked than the people outside. Every evil thing you can think of, is being done in the church. I never seen so many cliques formed since High School. Ive never meet so many unfriendly people in my life. :smh:

I love the Lord but I can't waste time on foolishness.


Props to your father for preaching the word to those that need it the most.
 
the Lord is free and does not need a go-between. These preachers driving around and Benzes and Cadillacs wow the Parisian errors barely have enough money to catch the bus to come to church. Collection plate pushed around multiple times a day and does not provide service to the people who put in to the collection.

10 percent of my money, really? and some churches make you bring your w2 so they can ensure that you were giving 10 percent. That's a joke no preacher or church has gotten my money since I've been grown.

Okay, one. Bishop C. V. Russell of Mount Carmel Baptist Church in Norfolk. Great servive when I was in the military and in that area. But that's it
 
I have seen this more and more recently. The most 'devout' believers who put their kids into church early and often seem to have actually turned those kids AWAY from the church because by being SO involved and for so long they see the inner working and the hypocrisy.

For a child to see adults doing one thing and saying something COMPLETELY different every week and in the name of the Lord?

And then being given so many excuses about forgiveness for SOME people and not others and THOSE people are bad but WE are good although we are doing the EXACT same things.

Kids are smarter then we give them credit for.




Why do you think the church should be filled with the most moral people? That is not who needs the Word. Hypocrisy is judging others for what they do and not admitting to you own faults. If your kids are spending their time looking for faults in others instead of improving themselves than they are not smart at all.
 
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As a daughter of a preacher, I can tell you why I stopped going. The people in the church is more wicked than the people outside. Every evil thing you can think of, is being done in the church. I never seen so many cliques formed since High School. Ive never meet so many unfriendly people in my life. :smh:

I love the Lord but I can't waste time on foolishness.
I call them the 1 hour Christians...


THere are good people of faith, but I can't reconcile that with what I've seen and learned in church
 
As a daughter of a preacher, I can tell you why I stopped going. The people in the church is more wicked than the people outside. Every evil thing you can think of, is being done in the church. I never seen so many cliques formed since High School. Ive never meet so many unfriendly people in my life. :smh:

I love the Lord but I can't waste time on foolishness.

I feel you yet that was only a small part for me. I was told not to have sex before getting married and damn near everyone I saw or knew in the MOFO was having or has sex before they got married... from the poolpit to the damn back door! :lol:
 
the Lord is free and does not need a go-between. These preachers driving around and Benzes and Cadillacs wow the Parisian errors barely have enough money to catch the bus to come to church. Collection plate pushed around multiple times a day and does not provide service to the people who put in to the collection.

10 percent of my money, really? and some churches make you bring your w2 so they can ensure that you were giving 10 percent. That's a joke no preacher or church has gotten my money since I've been grown.

Okay, one. Bishop C. V. Russell of Mount Carmel Baptist Church in Norfolk. Great servive when I was in the military and in that area. But that's it

Man they told you to stop posting trannies and you haven't been back since. Fag
 
I denounced Christianity when I turned 19. It made no sense to me whatsoever. These so called church going chicks (dudes) went so hard on the lying, manipulating, sex, judging and so on. Not just a couple, but many.

What solidified it for me is when I started researching on how it was used against us during slavery.
 
Im a hustler, and as a hustler, i know when I'm being hustled!

The Church Game is just another hustle to fill pockets of Crocked Preachers, That used to be Ex-Felons,Pimps,and Hustlers.

What is the church being done about massive Black Unemployment?, Gang Violence,etc..

Black People should pool our money and build business, and wealth, That how we can help each other,

Stop giving your money to these hustlers, That Are driving Benzs, while you take the B60 to work! :yes:
 
People tend to forget that "church" and a "relationship" with God are two different things. People should go to "church" as they are, then build and grow their "relationship with God. you build your "relationship" by reading and studying His word. This in turn will change their ways. Not everybody in "church" is saved. Also, everyone on here saying how bad and evil the people are in their church should switch to another one.

Don't let other people ruin your chances of salvation if that's what you believe in.
 
all I know is that most preacher's daughters are freaks...and like to get high too.

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As a daughter of a preacher, I can tell you why I stopped going. The people in the church is more wicked than the people outside. Every evil thing you can think of, is being done in the church. I never seen so many cliques formed since High School. Ive never meet so many unfriendly people in my life. :smh:

I love the Lord but I can't waste time on foolishness.


Pretty much. I believe in God, but church is the most fake waste of time ever these days.
Its a hustle. And on top of that, people that go to church are the most hypocritical people on Earth. First thing they teach is not to judge, and thats all they do :smh:
 
Lot of reasons for me. :colin: :colin: :colin: :colin: :colin:

1) I learned simple economics - Religion is sold as a product that will provide you a guarantee of good/great things in this life and after. Yet it is an intangible 'good' that is only as good as someone's word with no actual proof that it is responsible for whatever gains/good that one comes upon or that it will get you to the afterlife you desire. On top of that, I'm expected to give my after-tax dollars to an entity that doesn't pay a dime of tax for the building it owns and the land the building is upon. And some have the nerve to say that you should tithe on your pre-tax income. GTFOH.

2) I know when I'm being hustled - Back to point one, I was at a service one Sunday during "tithing" week. The church had family after family come up and give testimonies on how, during illness, job losses, hard times, they faithfully gave their tithe and God took them out of their predicament. The shit was appalling to me but the sheep of the church lapped it up. Your level of access to the preacher is based on your giving. Folks who've been in churches for years can't even get married/buried by certain preachers, an "associate" handles it. Fuck that.

3) I recognized the parallels between a church service and a sporting event/concert/play - It's ALL entertainment. Preacher gives a fiery sermon? Entertainment. At best it's a long ass pep talk. But think about it; at your mid/large black churches, the whole thing is a script. The music, the reading, the preaching, the collection, it's all a show. If I go to church, I'll put a few dollars in the offering plate, no different than buying a ticket to a show, but I recognize that's all it is, a show for the most part.

4) I don't like getting up on Sunday - So it's the "day of the Lord" so are the other six days and five of those I'm busting my ass to be a father/husband/employee/commuter/etc. I'm tired and I honestly don't feel like getting up, spending 2 hours getting myself and my kid ready to go spend 2 hours in front of folks who talk a good game but most won't piss on you if you were on fire.

5) "Rock star" Preachers - The kind of church I grew up in had preachers who preached on Sunday and worked a square gig M-F (steel mill was common). If they didn't work they visited the sick and shut in, did funerals, etc. Often their wife worked a job (teacher, city gov, etc.) They lived a decent middle class lifestyle. Now cats are ballin like athletes using the non-tangible good of religion to become wealthy. Jesus was a humble, poor man but he wants you to have a mansion with an X5, private jet and a fleet of other cars to preach his word? Come on man....

6) The state of the 'black part' of town - I live in Indianapolis and drive through the East Side everyday day. There are no less that 75 churches (and I'm probably short changing it) between 10th and 46th streets (south to north) and Shadeland to College (west to east). Yet the hood is FUCKED UP. No capital improvements, no food pantries (expect one on 34th street that I think is ran by Catholics), no church subsidized housing, but the church is the nicest building in a 1 mile radius in any direction. It's like that in damn near every major city I've ever lived in or visited east of the Mississippi River (and through St. Louis and Kansas City in too). Pathetic.

7) Religion and politics - Politicians use the black church as their personal special interest group, campaign fund and voting block and the church falls for it hook, link and sinker. A large mega preacher here was on urban radio last election open shilling for a candidate; didn't say his church name or that he was "Pastor" in the ad but everyone knows who he his and where he preaches. His horse lost but it was just another story of how politicians pimp the black church for votes then, if elected, give nothing back to the community.

8) The people - FB is full of the most holier than thou folks you'll ever meet; of course for a lot of them this is AFTER they've had 4 kids with 3 men, done time for drugs or violence, etc. Then you have the nerve to look down on me because I don't attend church? Miss me with that holier than thou shit.

9) Church drama - You deal with enough bullshit in life between family and career; who needs added stress? All the shit I hear from church folks; fighting on certain boards, funny money issues, being asked to consistently give of yourself and your $$ "for the good of God"; fuck all that.

10) I had my own moment with God and that was all I needed to know that I didn't need religion - Hit a rough patch a few years back and started openly, honestly praying to God (I do believe in God). Just thanks for what I had and asking to get me thru. And it happened in a way that I can't describe in writing but that I felt physically and with action that happened thereafter. Now, this is not contradicting what I've said above but it showed me that I don't need a middle man or to be around a bunch of folks stylin and profilin to have a relationship with God.

11) I realized religion in the black community is a drug that turns otherwise rationale people into sheep - People from the highest Ph.D's to the lowest in the gutter will use religion to justify ANYTHING.

12) Following the same religion that was used to enslave and persecute blacks is ass backwards - Enough said


chuuuch!!!
 
People tend to forget that "church" and a "relationship" with God are two different things. People should go to "church" as they are, then build and grow their "relationship with God. you build your "relationship" by reading and studying His word. This in turn will change their ways. Not everybody in "church" is saved. Also, everyone on here saying how bad and evil the people are in their church should switch to another one.

Don't let other people ruin your chances of salvation if that's what you believe in.

Then stay home and read the bible, You don't have to go to church to believe in God.
 
Why should I follow the Bible? How are those fairy tales 'Tha Truth'? Can any of you Christians answer that?

Personally, any black reverend that continues to intimidate our people with the Heaven/Hell bullshit is guilty of treason and should be shot on the spot.
 
I want to thank the fam!

20 post in and it hasn't gotten ignant......yet.:lol:

cold-n-cocky you NAILED IT!!!

As a daughter of a preacher, I can tell you why I stopped going. The people in the church is more wicked than the people outside. Every evil thing you can think of, is being done in the church. I never seen so many cliques formed since High School. Ive never meet so many unfriendly people in my life. :smh:

I love the Lord but I can't waste time on foolishness.
Son of a lifetime deacon.

Really not much difference than pastor, minister, and deacon board when it comes to seeing the inner workings of a congregation.

I love my dad to death, but I let him know I can't do this all my adult life, I just don't get any fulfillment from it.

When I look at how my dad has treated my mom, my sister, me, and other human beings, he truly is what "christianity" is all about, but it is so mired in bullsh!t I just wish he was spiritual or conscious so he would have even greater freedom.

Maybe his spirit will in his next assignment...anyway.:dunno:

I have seen this more and more recently. The most 'devout' believers who put their kids into church early and often seem to have actually turned those kids AWAY from the church because by being SO involved and for so long they see the inner working and the hypocrisy.

For a child to see adults doing one thing and saying something COMPLETELY different every week and in the name of the Lord?

And then being given so many excuses about forgiveness for SOME people and not others and THOSE people are bad but WE are good although we are doing the EXACT same things.

Kids are smarter then we give them credit for.
Man, they try to make that sh!t a way of life and I get it from a social aspect, but the indoctorination they pour upon you while you are there, man, is straight criminal.:smh:

And when you stop going to church, the first thing they want to shout is not to let the actions of others deter you from attending.

So, if I know a ninja whose murder game is just trump tight, I should keep hanging out with that ninja because he is my friend and I am true to my convictions and I want people to see me for me vs. the ninja I hang with...really...word?!

I am going to have to stop hanging with that ninja before a) he kills me b) people think I'm a killa too or c) before his behavior alters my behavior. It's as simple as that.

Why do you think the church should be filled with the most moral people? That is not who needs the Word. Hypocrisy is judging others for what they do and not admitting to you own faults. If your kids are spending their time looking for faults in others instead of improving themselves than they are not smart at all.
Church should not be filled with the most moral people, but gotdamnit, LIE TO ME..pretend to give a f*ck, show me some effort.

Man, do you know how hard it was to got to church in the early 80's with grown adults that I love, cherish, and respected and by the end of the 80's my biblical acumen and scriptural understanding had run laps around them, but they had been in church 20 to 30 to 40 years longer than me?

That's when the red flags went up and I started to connect church to a LIFESTYLE choice and not a true center for enlightenment and "salvation".

I started to mentally walk away...right...then.:smh:

I denounced Christianity when I turned 19. It made no sense to me whatsoever. These so called church going chicks (dudes) went so hard on the lying, manipulating, sex, judging and so on. Not just a couple, but many.

What solidified it for me is when I started researching on how it was used against us during slavery.
Our stories are similar as far as the age where I just had to step completely away.

Then when you fully find out about the creation of religion as a tool for enslavement, political control, profit, and power, I had to leave that sh!t ALL THE WAY ALONE!

Im a hustler, and as a hustler, i know when I'm being hustled!

The Church Game is just another hustle to fill pockets of Crocked Preachers, That used to be Ex-Felons,Pimps,and Hustlers.

What is the church being done about massive Black Unemployment?, Gang Violence,etc..

Black People should pool our money and build business, and wealth, That how we can help each other,

Stop giving your money to these hustlers, That Are driving Benzs, while you take the B60 to work! :yes:
PREACH!

People tend to forget that "church" and a "relationship" with God are two different things. People should go to "church" as they are, then build and grow their "relationship with God. you build your "relationship" by reading and studying His word. This in turn will change their ways. Not everybody in "church" is saved. Also, everyone on here saying how bad and evil the people are in their church should switch to another one.

Don't let other people ruin your chances of salvation if that's what you believe in.
They are.

And to tell you the truth, church should be treated as pre-school/pre-k/kindergarten.

When someone would join our church, they would have to go through what is called a discipleship class for one year.

In that class, they teach you the basics of the bible, the origin, jesus christ, salvation, and your responsibility as a christian.

Well, that's all good...as long as you kick they asses out into the real world, consciousness, or spirituality because if you are really looking to wake all the way up, church is not the spot.

Membership for any new member should be two years tops, if they are serious, but that's going to f*ck up pastah's money game so who am I fooling!

And read at home, you don't need church for that and church attendance is not expressly mentioned in the bible so why is anyone subscribing to that sh!t anyway?

Why are so many fags into the church?
Because they momma's bring 'em when they young and that's where they grow up.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


I have a relationship with Halle Berry too.
exiledking, you wrong.:lol:

God exists, just not remotely in the way the bible claims god does.

Why should I follow the Bible? How are those fairy tales 'Tha Truth'? Can any of you Christians answer that?

Personally, any black reverend that continues to intimidate our people with the Heaven/Hell bullshit is guilty of treason and should be shot on the spot.
Truth be told, there's a lot of wisdom in the bible.

I tell people that sh!t all the time, if you are not looking at jesus as the christ, messiah, or savior and you are not depending on the knowledge of the bible for your salvation, it's a great read...but I like Where the Red Fern Grows, White Fang, The Black Stallion, and The Hardy Boys, too.:dunno:

And to your second paragraph: PREACH!!!
 
Someone help me out with this question please.....

We all know Christianity was forced upon our ancestors who where brought here as slaves. Our ancestors could not practice any of their native customs and religion. They had to adopt the slave masters religion.

Is it possible for your slave masters religion (Christianity-Blonde hair Blue Eyed-Jesus) to guarantee your salvation?


:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:
 
the Lord is free and does not need a go-between. These preachers driving around and Benzes and Cadillacs wow the Parisian errors barely have enough money to catch the bus to come to church. Collection plate pushed around multiple times a day and does not provide service to the people who put in to the collection.

10 percent of my money, really? and some churches make you bring your w2 so they can ensure that you were giving 10 percent. That's a joke no preacher or church has gotten my money since I've been grown.

Okay, one. Bishop C. V. Russell of Mount Carmel Baptist Church in Norfolk. Great servive when I was in the military and in that area. But that's it

How can I ride with the reverend when the reverend rides around in a Porsche 911
/BM dubs with the dubs but rebuke the thugs that make a profit and living off drugs
/let's get analytical on all the hypocritical/both profit off people when lives are miserable
/what sets you apart from them
/ cuz you speak from the altar hymns and songs make you less wrong/let's hear a song from the choir
/let the congregation congregate over collection plate gathering/stain glass windows shattering I guess I'm going to hell
/but the rev's pockets are empty because my soul ain't for sale


That's my reason why I turned my back on church. I don't like being hustled or conned.
 
my sister use to go all the time but now, she's a dyke, do drugs, and is disobedient. guess god cant save them all
 
scam!

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Why are so many fags into the church?

^^^^^

A lot, but not all, of Black churches are known to have faggot preachers that like to exploit/molest young Black Men that grew up without males figures in their lives. Just look at sissy Eddie Long for a prime example.

Maybe a lot of these Black Preachers are tryna imitate the fags in the Catholic church..i dont know....but im sure the fear of getting their manhood took is one of many reasons why theyre leaving the church or not going at all.
 
Because it relies primarily on feminine energy to convey its message. Almost the same as saying why are there so many female nurses ?
Continue...
What do u mean by feminine energy?
I just noticed a lot of undercover dudes are into that shit and it don't make sense because the church is supposedly anti gay
^^^^^

A lot, but not all, of Black churches are known to have faggot preachers that like to exploit/molest young Black Men that grew up without males figures in their lives. Just look at sissy Eddie Long for a prime example.

Maybe a lot of these Black Preachers are tryna imitate the fags in the Catholic church..i dont know....but im sure the fear of getting their manhood took is one of many reasons why theyre leaving the church or not going at all.
It looks like it draws them in.
Maybe they feel guilty?
Hide in plain site?
Idk
 
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