black employment for july-am i reading this right?

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200,000 jobs added overall in july.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050806/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy

but 141,000 black people found jobs in july. it seems amazing but did almost 70% of jobs in july go just to blacks? black unemployment is still bad. it went from 10.3% to 9.5%(whites are steady at 4.3%).

http://bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t02.htm

go down to the seasonally adjusted black numbers and you'll see that unemployed went from 1,769 to 1,628(in thousands).

just thought it was amazing while i was looking at the numbers.
 
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Greed said:
200,000 jobs added overall in july.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050806/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy

but 141,000 black people found jobs in july. it seems amazing but did almost 70% of jobs in july go just to blacks? black unemployment is still bad. it went from 10.3% to 9.5%(whites are steady at 4.3%).

http://bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t02.htm

go down to the seasonally adjusted black numbers and you'll see that unemployed went from 1,769 to 1,628(in thousands).

just thought it was amazing while i was looking at the numbers.


Yes a lot of African Americans have made entire career changes. Those are a lot of recent graduates and people that took retraining classes. Only disturbing thing about this report is it lacks clarity on the breakdown of what industry the majority those jobs were located. Everyone knows that construction and some retail jobs may be seasonal based on the product lines. These things are a result of the individuals will to survive, not the Bush administration. As the first report notes, manufacturing jobs still on the decline, that's the life blood of your economy. Sorry no hoorahs for BushCo. They still created a huge deficit, still no WMD, still no Osama, still in Iraq, and those funny high gas prices still exist.

A Bush propaganda machine on the net, shame on you.
 
you mentioned bush an infinite amount of times more than me because i didnt mention him at all.

i'm not stupid enough to give blame or credit to bush for companies hiring blacks unless he gave a presidential directive telling them to.

focus. captain. focus.

he economy has been on the upswing for the last couple of years but just like the last few decades black hiring has ALWAYS lagged behind even when your favorite party is in charge. but we dont care about decades old trends do we. just the trends starting jan 2001.

anyway, i'll do you a favor and search the BLS website for industry breakdown.
 
Unemployed persons by industry, not seasonally adjusted-- http://bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t11.htm

Employed and unemployed persons by occupation, not seasonally adjusted-- http://bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t10.htm

all i could find real quick was non adjusted numbers but not from june 05 to july 05. instead july 04 to july 05.

and manufacturing JOBS have been on the decline for decades but manufacturing PRODUCTION has been increasing at a faster than normal rate.

and nothing is the lifebood of the economy. if such a concept existed america would have collapsed after we moved from agriculture. manufacturing will have a more diminished role, but wont disappear and the most dynamic economy in the world will move on.

hey captain, THE SKY IS NOT FALLING...again.
 
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Yes a lot of African Americans have made entire career changes. Those are a lot of recent graduates and people that took retraining classes. Only disturbing thing about this report is it lacks clarity on the breakdown of what industry the majority those jobs were located. Everyone knows that construction and some retail jobs may be seasonal based on the product lines. These things are a result of the individuals will to survive, not the Bush administration. As the first report notes, manufacturing jobs still on the decline, that's the life blood of your economy. Sorry no hoorahs for BushCo. They still created a huge deficit, still no WMD, still no Osama, still in Iraq, and those funny high gas prices still exist.

A Bush propaganda machine on the net, shame on you.

Some African-Americans need career changes. The Manufacturing sector has been on a steady decline since the 80s. In the 90s, it plummeted to new lows. There are many reasons for this: technology has taken many manufacturing jobs. Also, the outsourcing of manufacturing projects to countries with lower wages and no unions are another. This, of course, translates to lower prices, which is a benefit to our economy.

We cannot rely on the manufacturing sector to support us. We simply cannot compete, and it will be difficult to level the playing field when labor is so plentiful overseas. (over a billion Chinese and over a billion Indians... but less than 300 million Americans. Plus, our unions guarantee benefits and the like- these guys are hardly guaranteed a paycheck in China and India.)



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Those Magic Unemployment Numbers

By: John Mauldin, Millennium Wave Advisors




The Bureau of Labor Statistical Magic
The Structure of Unemployment
Capitalists of the World, Unite
Bull's Eye Investing, Kansas and Sir Walter
March2004


That loud boom you heard Friday morning coming from the futures pits was the job report imploding the dollar and sending interest rates tumbling. The consensus estimate was for 125,000 new jobs and it came in at a meager 21,000. Most economists think that we need 150,000 new jobs created per month to actually gain ground with population growth.

This signals the potential for a weaker economy in the future, thus interest rates drop. A weaker economy also hurts the dollar, and thus the market reaction. Perversely, the stock market seemed to think lower rates are good for stocks in the future, so the broad market ended up sideways, except sadly for Martha Stewart Omnimedia.

We are going to follow up last week's thoughts on trade with a look at employment and the lack of job growth. These are two of the three critical issues the country will deal with in the coming election cycle, with Iraq and the War on Terror being the third. We are going to look at three different research reports and then see if we can draw some conclusions, as well as look at the magic of numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The reasons for the jobless recovery are complex. They stem from a structural shift in the US and global economy, capital labor ratios and productivity, among other factors. It's not just job-outsourcing to China and India, the favorite whipping boys of the month.

Now, I want to put this letter in the context of an economy that is growing by over 4%, where US household wealth hit an all-time high last month, where there is a slight slowing of the rate of increase in household debt growth and that productivity growth is slowing, which as the Wall Street Journal noted "The gradual slowing in productivity suggest that employers are running out of ways to milk their workers for more output and may be inclined to hire more in the months ahead." I recognize that there are a lot of good things happening. We are simply going to focus this letter on one part of the economy where things are not doing as well.

Last week, I argued that productivity was a large reason for the jobless recovery. From that letter: "Here are the facts, conveniently brought to us by Martin Wolfe in the London Financial Times. First, American manufacturer employment has dropped 2.6 million jobs between March of 2001 and January of 2004. By January of 2004, employment in manufacturing was 17% below what it was in June of 2000, the peak month for manufactured output in the last cycle.

"Outsourcing? Offshore manufacturing? On the surface, it seems to be the culprit. It makes for good copy, as it is easy to see a manufacturing plant closing in Wisconsin and opening in Shanghai. But it is not that simple. If we look at the numbers, I think we can find another perpetrator. There was a 17% rise in worker productivity over the same periods noted above, with just a 3% drop in production. We are producing roughly the same amount of 'stuff' with a lot fewer workers. We produce almost twice as much as we did just 24 years ago."

But it is more than that. There are longer term structural changes at work and a shift in the nature of business investment, which we will look at. Plus, I think we can offer a few reasons why consumer confidence is going down, even as US household wealth hit a record high this last month. This has important implications for the economy and public policy and ultimately for our investment portfolios.

The Bureau of Labor Statistical Magic

First, some would argue that we should not be whining about unemployment. It is, after all, only 5.6%, which is historically not all that high. But current headline Bureau of Labor Statistics unemployment rates are not the whole story. The magic of statistics is that if you get to define the terms, you can make the numbers say what you want them to say.

No great conspiracy here, but the unemployment numbers are developed in such a way that unemployment is understated. If there was some conspiracy, we would not be able to look at the detailed way in which the numbers are developed. The fact that most commentators do not look beyond the headline number is not a conspiracy. It is laziness. Big difference.

The unemployment numbers are useful as they give us a direction of employment, which has been improving, and a basis for historical comparison. But there is more when you look at the underlying actual numbers that make up the statistics and how they are counted.

For instance, the BLS does not include people in the category of unemployed who want a job but have not looked for one in the last four weeks. If you add in the people who want a job but are not counted as unemployed, the unemployment rate goes up to 8.8%.

There are also 4.4 million people who are working part-time but would like a full time job. If you add those in also, we have 11.8% of the population who are unemployed or are under-employed.

But the statistics are even more ambiguous than that. If you look at the actual numbers for February 2004 (www.bls.gov) you find that the total number of people classified as unemployed went down by 127,000. Doesn't that mean we created 127,000 jobs?

The answer is no. Let me throw you some odd statistics. First, since November, the actual labor force (according to the BLS) has dropped by over 700,000, even though the population rose. The number of people actually employed dropped by a seasonally adjusted 265,000. The number of people who are now considered not in the workforce rose by over 500,000.

Yes, in the world of government statistics, we can have a rising population, the number of employed go down and still see the unemployment rate drop. We simply use a definition for unemployed which ignores many of those who are in fact unemployed and would like a job.

The number of people not in the work force has risen by almost 1.7 million in the last year. Part of the rise in the number of people not in the labor force is due to retirement, going back to school and other natural forces, but a significant part is simply reclassifying people as not part of the labor force because they have not looked for a job in the last four weeks. The labor participation rate is 62.2%, down by 0.2% from this time one year ago, yet supposedly the unemployment rate has dropped almost 1%.

We will come back to this in a minute, but let's look at some other studies first to give the numbers come context.

The Structure of Unemployment

Many economists are looking at historical charts of recoveries and predict that any day now we will see employment rise substantially. That is because in past recoveries, by 18 months after the end of the recession the employment numbers were soaring. Even in 1991, which was the first jobless recovery, the job growth started later than the typical recession cycle, but eventually took off.

To get a clue as to what's so different now, let's go to a study from the New York Federal Reserve entitled "Has Structural Change Contributed to a Jobless Recovery?" by Erica L. Groshen and Simon Potter. I am going to pull several paragraphs directly from the paper, rather than summarizing, as they do a very clear job for economists in explaining their research. (http://www.newyorkfed.org/research/current_issues/ci9-8.html)

"The current recovery has seen steady growth in output but no corresponding rise in employment. A look at layoff trends and industry job gains and losses in 2001-03 suggests that structural change--the permanent relocation of workers from some industries to others--may help explain the stalled growth in jobs.

"A surge in payroll jobs used to be a reliable sign of the end of a recession--but not any longer. When the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), the accepted arbiter of business cycle dating, recently designated November 2001 as the end of the nation's latest recession, it based its decision largely on the growth of output (GDP).1 By the end of June 2003, GDP had risen 4.5 percent from its low in the third quarter of 2001 and significantly exceeded its pre-recession peak. While the members of the Bureau's dating committee saw the strong growth of this indicator as persuasive evidence that the downturn was over, they acknowledged that their decision was made very difficult by the 'divergent behavior of employment.' What troubled the committee was that payroll employment, which would normally rise in tandem with output, had shown no sign of recovery. Indeed, the payroll numbers fell almost 0.4 percent in 2002 and another 0.3 percent through July 2003. In this edition of Current Issues, we explore why the recovery from the most recent recession has brought no growth in jobs. We advance the hypothesis that structural changes--permanent shifts in the distribution of workers throughout the economy--have contributed significantly to the sluggishness in the job market.

"We find evidence of structural change in two features of the 2001 recession: the predominance of permanent job losses over temporary layoffs and the relocation of jobs from one industry to another. The data suggest that most of the jobs added during the recovery have been new positions in different firms and industries, not rehires. In our view, this shift to new jobs largely explains why the payroll numbers have been so slow to rise: Creating jobs takes longer than recalling workers to their old positions and is riskier in the current uncertain environment."

They further explain what they mean by structural versus cyclical change:

"At the start of any recovery, many employers will delay hires or recalls for a time to be certain that the increase in demand will continue. Nevertheless, although the job market resurgence in the past may often have lagged the output recovery by one quarter, only during the two most recent recoveries has the divergence between job and output growth persisted for a longer period. The divergent paths of output and employment in 1991-92 and 2002-03 suggest the emergence of a new kind of recovery, one driven mostly by productivity increases rather than payroll gains. The fact that no influx of new workers occurred in the two most recent recoveries means that output grew because workers were producing more. Although one might speculate that output increased because workers were putting in longer days, average hours worked by employees actually changed little during this and the previous jobless recovery.

"Recessions mix cyclical and structural adjustments. Cyclical adjustments are reversible responses to lulls in demand, while structural adjustments transform a firm or industry by relocating workers and capital. The job losses associated with cyclical shocks are temporary: at the end of the recession, industries rebound and laid-off workers are recalled to their old firms or readily find comparable employment with another firm. Job losses that stem from structural changes, however, are permanent: as industries decline, jobs are eliminated, compelling workers to switch industries, sectors, locations, or skills in order to find a new job.

"A preponderance of structural - as opposed to cyclical - adjustments during the most recent recession would help to explain why employment has languished during the recovery. If job growth now depends on the creation of new positions in different firms and industries, then we would expect a long lag before employment rebounded. Employers incur risks in creating new jobs, and require additional time to establish and fill positions."

They go on to analyze industry by industry the nature of job losses and do indeed conclude that there is a significant amount of structural change. In past recessions, roughly 50% of the job losses were cyclical and thus poised to come back swiftly and the other half were structural. During this last recession, the amount of structural job losses was 79%. Think telecom and manufacturing, as examples, not to mention all the jobs which technology and mergers have eliminated.

The last recession has had to overcome a far deeper permanent loss of jobs than any post-war recession. Given that, we should not be surprised at the job-less recovery.

They give us three reasons as to why there might be such a significant increase in structural job loss. First, over expansion in industries to the enthusiastic boom of the 90's, then the possibility that the Fed actually reduced the problems of cyclical job loss through its easy money policy, and finally the simple decision by management to run leaner operations.

Here is what I think is he central part of their conclusion:

"The largely permanent nature of this recession's job losses could explain why jobs have been so slow to materialize. An unusually high share of unemployed workers must now find new positions in different firms or industries. The task of finding such jobs, difficult and time-consuming under the best of conditions, is likely to be even more complicated now, when financial market weakness and economic uncertainty prevail. In such an environment, firms may hesitate to create new jobs because of the risks involved in expanding their businesses or undertaking new ventures. Some support for this interpretation comes from the findings of the Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey, which suggest that the current shortfall in payroll growth owes more to low job creation than to widespread job elimination."

Capitalists of the World, Unite

David Rosenberg, Chief North American Economist of Merrill Lynch gives us this observation on yet another reason for a soft labor market: Let's read him in his own words:

"A little while ago, we published a report titled 'Capitalists of the World, Unite' because we had noticed that while this cycle has been sub-par from an employment standpoint, and that's true whether or not you look at the non-farm or household survey, business investment has actually been quite robust. What's interesting is how everyone is focused on China and India as the source of the job market malaise of the past couple of years, and while this is significant, the real story may well be in our own backyard. It is our contention that there is a fundamental shift underway in the capital/labor ratio. In essence, labor is re-pricing itself not just to the extremely low wage rates in China and India, but also to the declining price of capital here at home.

"Invoking the works of David Ricardo, there are two factors of production capital and labor, and the cost of capital as measured by the equipment & software price deflator has hit a 25-year low and in the past eight quarters is roughly down 2%. Over this 2-year span, the employment cost index has risen by almost 8%. Employment costs are not being driven down by the wage rate, which is decelerating, but rather by the acceleration in benefit costs. Benefits, largely healthcare and workers' compensation, now account for over a third of employment expense and is running near their fastest rate in 13 years. The challenge for the household sector is that wages are discretionary income while benefits are targeted.

"While everyone is looking for the answers to this lackluster job market cycle, businesses are actually far from stingy. They are focused on the input that is increasing less costly in the production process, with a focus towards upgrading their tech infrastructure. In fact, real business spending on tech capital expenditures has risen in 7 of the past 8 quarters and at an average annual rate of better than 12%. At the same time, more than 2 million payrolls have been shed and even the household survey shows job creation basically in line with the sluggish upturn in the early 1990s.

"The net effect has been to boost productivity sharply, which is running at a 5.3% year-on-year rate, almost double the pace of two years ago. At the same time, slack in the labor market has helped companies keep a lid on wage growth and as a result we have unit labor costs running at a -2.3% y/y rate. Unit labor costs have the most powerful statistically significant correlation with core consumer inflation, and are a key reason why the Fed can remain accommodative and the primary reason why corporate profit margins have remained wide even in the face of rising raw material prices."

Let's look at some of the implications of the above two pieces. First, obviously, we have permanently lost more than the usual number of jobs for a recession. Structural loss of jobs is normal. But this time it has been much higher than in the past. It is Schumpeter's creative destruction on steroids. Every new innovation changes the relationship between labor and production. Sometimes it allows for fewer people to produce more "stuff." Other times it simply removes the need for products or services, like buggy whips and typewriters. But it still means those who lose their jobs must find new ways to re-train themselves.

Second, as Rosenberg pointed out, it is often cheaper for employers to buy technology than hire new employees. Partially that is because the price of technology is coming down and partly because the cost of borrowing is so cheap.

These two factors are not going away. We are seeing continuing high numbers of lay-offs, much more than one would expect for this point in a recovery. Money is going to be cheap for quite some time. These are headwinds against which rising employment must sail.

What is actually amazing is that the job picture, from the point of view of past recessions and from whichever set of unemployment statistics you look at, is really quite astounding. The American economy has created an remarkable number of new jobs in a small amount of time. If this had been a typical recession, we would now be seeing a significant drop in unemployment. Has it created all we need? No. But given the actual permanent loss of over 2,000,000 jobs, and the on-going nature of large lay-offs, it is remarkable that unemployment is as low as it is.

Of course, if you are the one who is still looking for a job that is of little consequence. The economy will not be seen as amazing until you and your friends have jobs.

Which brings us to our final piece of the puzzle. Gary Shilling has done some excellent research on employment, giving us some very disturbing numbers. The extension of unemployment benefits has given a cushion to many of those unemployed.

But, he notes: "...although Congress extended that program twice, it ran out at the end of 2003 and has not been renewed... it's estimated that in January, 375,000 ran out of unemployment benefits. Unless the [program] is renewed or replaced by another extended benefit program, the total is expected to swell to 2 million in the first half of this year. Want to bet, however, that Washington will sit by idly if unemployment leaps between now and the first Tuesday in November, to pick a random date?"

Ah, but some of the more cynical among my readers might think that this will lead to a surge in employment, as people will go back to work if they have no other sources of income. But Shilling (who no one ever accused of having a Pollyanna gene in his body) gives us a large body of research which shows that this time, that is not the case. While it may have been true in prior times, it is not true today. As it turns out, the data suggests what the real world knows: It is hard to find a job.

"[the research] reveals that the rate at which the unemployed exhaust their benefits used to peak [in recessions prior to 1991] at about the same time as the duration of unemployment. Since the early 1990s, however, the benefits exhaustion rate topped out while the duration was still rising. It may be that in earlier recessions, the leisurely unemployed went back to work when their benefits ran out, but not in the last decade. This lends credence to our belief that the jump in duration of unemployment since the early 1990s fundamentally is due to globalization, the lack of pricing power and cost-cutting that involves job chops, as discussed earlier.

"On balance, then, it does not appear that now or earlier, the duration of unemployment was influenced significantly by the extra unemployment insurance benefits that the federal government almost always institutes in tough times. Rather, added benefits are reactions to slack labor markets of which the time between jobs is an important measure.

"Further, the leap of the duration in recent years as well as it's abnormally high level in the much of the 1990s is probably due to the difficulty of many in finding new jobs in an era of globalization and lack of business and labor pricing power. When both blue and white collar positions are being eliminated permanently, it simply takes more time for people to find new jobs. This may mean that the average duration of unemployment is now a more important gauge of the labor market than the unemployment rate in influencing consumer sentiment and spending as well as voter attitudes."

The average duration of unemployment is over 21 weeks, and was just barely under the all-time highs of last quarter. (I did not ask Gary if this included those who are no longer classified as unemployed because they are not looking for a job, but I bet it does not, which if they were included would make the number even higher. Next week, we will see if my cynical attitude is correct.)

(You can read a summary of this excellent research at www.agaryshilling.com, under INSIGHT newsletter.)

Now, let's examine some of the implications. First, this underscores several of my long time themes. The Fed is not going to raise rates in this environment. Ultimately, without job growth, the stimulus driven recovery is going to weaken. Third, this is going to weaken consumer spending, contrary to what almost every mainstream economist believes. Simply the loss of benefits will put less money in the hands of consumers.

A notable exception is Richard Bernstein of Merrill Lynch. From his February 9 US Strategy Update:

"...look at the relative forecast P/E between Consumer Staples and Consumer Discretionary over the past 20 years. The relative valuation has carved out a cycle during the last 14 years or so, and it turns out that this cycle is a very good contrary forecaster with respect to the health of the consumer sector. In other words, when Staples are priced very expensively relative to Discretionary, then it implies that the market is convinced that the consumer sector will meaningfully weaken. Typically, the consumer has ended up being stronger than investors expected. Similarly, when Staples are very inexpensive relative to Discretionary, it implies that the market is convinced that the consumer will be extremely strong. Typically, the consumer has subsequently disappointed. Currently, Staples remain quite undervalued relative to Discretionary stocks. Investors are once again convinced the consumer will strengthen, but history argues that they might be disappointed."

When and if consumer spending slows down, the stock market is in big trouble.

What can offset this and make consumers spend more? Mortgage rates are once again dropping. This will allow anyone who missed the last round of re-financing to once again hit the piggy bank of increasing home values. The irony is that a weak economy allows for lower rates which allows for increased borrowing and spending. We will have to watch this carefully, as it could be a pre-cursor to another large stimulus.

On the negative side of the ledger, gasoline and energy prices are acting as a huge tax increase. My bet is that the government will soon stop (or at least slow down) topping off the strategic petroleum reserves. They are increasing them quite steadily, and it does put upward pressure on prices. Would Bush open up the reserves to lower prices in the summer as a further stimulus?

The correlation between employment and consumer confidence is quite high. Kerry is going to play upon that uncertainty.

From a realistic point of view, there is not much more the Bush administration can do that will have an immediate effect. They have cut capital gain taxes, which helps foster new business and investment. As Shilling noted, if employment does not improve within the next few months, expect Washington to once again extend benefits.

You can cut regulations and bureaucracy, which is a serious hindrance to capital formation, but that is not going to do anything this year. The time for that to make a difference today was in 2001. We need to really, really re-think our educational system. Vouchers, higher new standards, updated curriculum and less bureaucracy and more teachers and smaller classrooms and a host of other changes. Of course, this makes a difference in 15-20 years, but it is one we must start.

The economy is growing at 4% plus. But if we need to grow at 1% just to make up for population growth, and if productivity is over 3%, that does not make for a surge in employment. Either we must grow even faster, or eventually the lack of job growth is going to slow the economy and create a recession.

On the political from, my bet is that the Bush team argues that Kerry, by raising capital gain taxes, would damage what new business formation there is. Along with the dividend tax cut, it is a large part of the stock market rebound. But that is a difficult and complex proposition to put across. We will see benefits extended and everything that can be done to show those who are worried that they care. And of course Kerry will say that everything they do is either wrong or too little, too late. They will both have huge amounts of money to make their case. It is going to be a long campaign season.

But at least the debate will be as stark and contrasting as any we have seen in years. It will be interesting to see the outcome.
 
Undercounting the Unemployed?
by Mike DeRosa

Every month the U.S. Department of Labor calls 60,000 households in the United States to determine who is employed and who is unemployed. The unemployment rate that is announced every month is mostly based on this survey. What you may not know is that anyone who works one hour a week is considered employed by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. The people collecting unemployment insurance are not counted because about only 35% of the unemployed are eligible for unemployment insurance in the U.S. According recent unemployment figures only 5.6% to 5.9% of the U.S. working force is considered unemployed (roughly 8.7 million people).

According to Helen Ginsberg, a professor emeritus of economics at Brooklyn College (www.njfac.org), the real unemployment figure may be double the 5.6% to 5.9% figure. Some economics think that real number of unemployed, those without jobs who would like to work, is closer to around 18 million people in the U.S.

Many of the uncounted unemployed are working part-time because they can’t find a full-time job (roughly 4.9 million workers). Other workers who want jobs are not counted in the official statistics because they are not actively looking for work (discouraged workers) because there are few or no jobs in their field (roughly 4.5 million workers).

The U.S. Department of Labor does have a measure that covers these “discouraged workers” and they call this the U-6 level (it is separate from the official rate). These so-called “discouraged” workers could include computer programmers who cannot find work because the work is being shipped overseas, people who have no childcare, and a variety of other situations that are standing in the way of employment. Then there are people who are so-called independent contract workers (“1099 workers”) who are rarely counted and other groups within the labor force who want work but are not counted for a variety of reason. Ginsburg and other economists think that the real unemployment rate is closer to 11.6% to 11.9% of the labor force (roughly 18 million people). Other economists think the real unemployment rate may be even a bit higher.

According to the Bush administration, the U.S. is in an economic recovery. The corporate press keeps reporting this “recovery” to the American people. Recently, the absence of job growth has become an issue in the presidential campaign, but few objective details are available from the corporate mass media.

Many critics and economists call this a phony recovery because it is an economic recovery without jobs. The Bush administration promised that as a result of the recent tax cut 306,000 new jobs would be created each month though the so-called Jobs and Growth Plan that was initiated in June 2003. Since July about 350,000 new jobs have been created over a period of about seven months. Only 20,000 jobs were created in the most recent monthly totals. This means that the Bush administration has a short fall of over 2,000,000 jobs based on its own projections. Lawrence Mishel, President of the Economic Policy Institute (www.jobwatch.org) has stated that “we need 150,000 jobs per month just to maintain unemployment at the current level and to keep up with the population entering the workforce, and we haven’t seen that amount of growth in two and a half years.”

Minority unemployment rates are far worse than the national figures. African American recent unemployment rates were around 10%, double the White rate of around 5%. Latino rates were around 7%. African American teen-agers (16-19 years) had an unemployment rate near 28%.

In a city like Hartford, these unemployment rates are the cause of much misery and unemployment rates this high are helping to destroy our inner city. Good jobs that pay a decent wage and offer security and benefits are hard to find in the age of Bush 2. This month’s labor statistics indicate job growth in restaurant work. Unfortunately most of these jobs are at fast food outlets that offer low pay, insecurity, few benefits, and little advancement.

According to Heather Boushey of the center for Economic and Policy Research (www.cepr.net), “the nominal wage growth has virtually stopped; the average hourly wage is up by only $.01 since August 2003.” So the average worker has seen a 1-cent increase in his or her pay while the richest 1% of the population has recently gotten billions of dollars through a tax give away.

As the U.S. squanders its national fortune on an military adventures in Iraq, Haiti (and soon Venezuela) and fights a “war on terrorism” that we are told may never end in our lifetime. Our economy is systematically being destroyed by a reverse Robin Hood mentality that materializes itself in massive tax cuts for the top 1% of our society—from the Bush administration—while the rest of us get a couple of hundred dollars a year in tax breaks. While job development and creation by the U.S. government are ignored as solutions to our unemployment problem, Halliburton corporation (vice-president Dick Cheney’s old company) and Bechtel corporation are given no-bid contracts in Iraq that are taxpayer rip-offs and massive paybacks to George Bush’s friends.

Wars, present, past, and future are destroying our economy and wasting our resources. Many economists note that building weapons of war creates the least number of jobs for the money. Wars also create massive debt that makes progressive legislation that creates jobs “unaffordable”.

Many economists think that what is needed is a national program for full employment in the U.S. These same economists think that a sustainable economy is the best way to create secure jobs that pay a living wage, have adequate benefits, and provide real opportunity for future growth. Full employment means more than just creating jobs, it means recreating our economic system, and creating a system where people count and justice prevails.

Mike DeRosa produces New Focus, a weekly radio show heard on WWUH-FM (91.3FM)(www.wwuh.org), every Friday at 12 Noon and every Wednesday at 8:30PM. You can also visit his web site at www.newfocusradio.org.
 
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Look at the u-6 numbers and you will see the real unemployment rate now is 9.1%





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I guarantee you will not give a fuck about .8% when you discover true black unemployment figures are double what you think they are, unless you are a percentage of the black people out of the 60,000 phoned by the labor department who actually got a job this month.
 
its not "true unemployment." its a variation of the unemployment calculation.

you can count the people who had absolutely nothing or you can add the people who have little to it.

neither is more valid than the other unless you have an agenda dolemite. i'll worry about the people who have little when the other 9.5% of blacks that have nothing gets something.

so no its not some conspiracy trying to hide the fact the sky is falling...again.

and we should all give a fuck about .8% if it represents over a 100k jobs just for blacks in a month where only 200k were added altogether. the biggest jump of any group.

i'd like to know what went right this month while you and your captain want to imply that its not a big deal at all.
 
Well, overall- the unemployment numbers along with the rest of the economic projections are going strong. Nationally, Bush has done a great job. Internationally, however, he's sucking wind. This Iraq war is dragging on and on. And his poll numbers are in the crapper. But, I think that poll numbers are crap as well. Poll numbers are manipulated, you know.


tian
 
tian said:
Well, overall- the unemployment numbers along with the rest of the economic projections are going strong. Nationally, Bush has done a great job. Internationally, however, he's sucking wind. This Iraq war is dragging on and on. And his poll numbers are in the crapper. But, I think that poll numbers are crap as well. Poll numbers are manipulated, you know.


tian


Ha ha ha. Those unemployment numbers have been deliberately manipulated by this administration. Manufacturing can be considered the lifeblood of most economies, see GDP. This country was built on what was known as the industrial revolution, like the one China is currently having because of corporate Amerikkka's GREED. A service industry economy can not generate the capital that a manufacturing industry economy can. GREED will be the downfall of Amerikkka, look at the irony here. LMBAO.

Bush and company got paid off by companies moving over seas, bottom line. Companies moved overseas at a rate of 400% over the previous administration because of the fear that they would not get tax breaks. Bush gave them the money as they left Amerikkka. Lou Dobbs did exstensive coverage on this for quite a while. If Bush Co. were concerned about the working or non working Americans they would have put a stop to that by simply passing the necessary laws to make it more expensive for those Amerikkkan companies to manufacture overseas. But when you get your campaign paid for, upwards of $200 million, by corporate lobbyist, you are their whore. You Bushmites keep posting inconclusive material as a defense for this clown's failures. Man up! Admit that this fool has sold Amerikkka out for himself and his masters. We won't hold your vote against you. Nevermind, time will reveal all that you refuse to see. One clown actually mentioned 10 years ago, LMBAO.

When all the numbers are tallied up once this administration can't cover it up any longer, I want to see if these Bushmites will be here. They do have a tendency to disappear when Bush gets exposed. We are still waiting on those WMDs from Iraq. I remember "You'll see" but those posters never came back under the same screen names. Poor, poor Bushy babies, all that pie must have gotten to their tummies, LMBAO! Lets see what happens by this year's end. ENRON economics can only go so far when you are being watched.

The sky is falling for the Bush administration and repugnants alike. I just hope it doesn't endanger the rest of Amerikkka.
 
Greed said:
its not "true unemployment." its a variation of the unemployment calculation.

you can count the people who had absolutely nothing or you can add the people who have little to it.

neither is more valid than the other unless you have an agenda dolemite. i'll worry about the people who have little when the other 9.5% of blacks that have nothing gets something.



First of all you quoted numbers based on a survey of 60,000 people not the actual number of totally unemployed black people who got jobs.

Many of the black people who have nothing are not included in the figure 9.5% because that figure DOES NOT include people who's benefits have run out or have given up on finding work etc. The true unemployment rate for black people is closer to 2 * 9.5% than it is to 9.5%.

People who work 1 hour a week are considered employed in those 100,000* jobs


so no its not some conspiracy trying to hide the fact the sky is falling...again.

and we should all give a fuck about .8% if it represents over a 100k jobs just for blacks in a month where only 200k were added altogether. the biggest jump of any group.

i'd like to know what went right this month while you and your captain want to imply that its not a big deal at all.


Only the nutty nut hunter has brought up conspiracies or mentioned the sky is falling.

Again you are quoting innacurate numbers.

They PHONED 60,000 people to arrive at those figures. They are estimates and not actual data.

People who fell off the unemployment rolls were not counted as unemployed in those estimates.


I'm glad when any person who is without the means to provide for themself is afforded the opportunity to do so. I am not impressed by fictional numbers based on phone surveys that undercount those who are doing poorly to make other people and financial indicators look better than they really are. But that's just me.


What is the non-seasonal U-6 number for black people?
 
CAPTAIN said:
Ha ha ha. Those unemployment numbers have been deliberately manipulated by this administration. Manufacturing can be considered the lifeblood of most economies, see GDP. This country was built on what was known as the industrial revolution, like the one China is currently having because of corporate Amerikkka's GREED. A service industry economy can not generate the capital that a manufacturing industry economy can. GREED will be the downfall of Amerikkka, look at the irony here. LMBAO.

Bush and company got paid off by companies moving over seas, bottom line. Companies moved overseas at a rate of 400% over the previous administration because of the fear that they would not get tax breaks. Bush gave them the money as they left Amerikkka. Lou Dobbs did exstensive coverage on this for quite a while. If Bush Co. were concerned about the working or non working Americans they would have put a stop to that by simply passing the necessary laws to make it more expensive for those Amerikkkan companies to manufacture overseas. But when you get your campaign paid for, upwards of $200 million, by corporate lobbyist, you are their whore. You Bushmites keep posting inconclusive material as a defense for this clown's failures. Man up! Admit that this fool has sold Amerikkka out for himself and his masters. We won't hold your vote against you. Nevermind, time will reveal all that you refuse to see. One clown actually mentioned 10 years ago, LMBAO.

When all the numbers are tallied up once this administration can't cover it up any longer, I want to see if these Bushmites will be here. They do have a tendency to disappear when Bush gets exposed. We are still waiting on those WMDs from Iraq. I remember "You'll see" but those posters never came back under the same screen names. Poor, poor Bushy babies, all that pie must have gotten to their tummies, LMBAO! Lets see what happens by this year's end. ENRON economics can only go so far when you are being watched.

The sky is falling for the Bush administration and repugnants alike. I just hope it doesn't endanger the rest of Amerikkka.


Our workforce is the backbone of our economy... regardless of it being manufacturing, service, or prostitution, for that matter. The problem with manufacturing is that, for the most part, that was where the bulk of our workforce was headed. It is now possible, however, to have a good economy without being the manufacturing capital of the world.

Our workforce is going back to work. Technology is working in our favor. We are still rich, not just due to our manufacturing capability- but more importantly, due to a strong manufacturing PLUS strong technology PLUS a strong military, etc.

Now, it is my intent to investigate HOW people are going to work, but various experts back in the 90s warned about the fact that manufacturing will take a hit. It's not an administrative failure. It's just that here in the US, we have unions. We do not have a billion people looking for jobs, that will drive the pay rates down.

See, in India, if you lived there- to get a job at a McDonalds is not as easy as it is here. It's stiff competition to get that job. There are MBAs in India that are on "fries."

To put it more bluntly, I work in IT. I know people who are Software Engineers in the US that makes over $200k per year. Now, if I take that same skillset and go to India to find that person, I could probably find that same skillset for around $40k per year. That's a savings over around $160k. So, guess what? I'll go and get three of those same guys AND still save $40k. So, I'll get the project done three-times faster with a 20% savings. That's what's up?!


Now, say you are a company that manufactures automobiles, or radios, etc. Our workforce has a high price tag. I know people who work at Ford that, if I really wanted to, I could find someone who could build a software program that will put him out of business. And, uh, he makes over $50k PLUS benefits. That's the problem. We, as a workforce are being outsold because we are either too expensive, or our skills are obsolete. If your job is to attach rims over at the GM plant you should be scared. Why? Because somewhere in India or China, there may be a computer programmer creating some computer to take your job. And if you work for a clothes manufacturer, believe me, I could take that same dress out to China and just walk down the street and get 20 manufacturing plants that will bid against each other to make that dress 80% cheaper than the materials it took to make it at home.


tian
 
its unfortunate that anyone who wants to seriously argue about black unemployment in america would ever imply that its the fault of one president like the situation will go away when he leaves office.

black people are hired in america when companies cant find a white person.

school all of us captain on how that started with bush and how it will end with bush.

please tell us how bush43 kept the black unemployment rate at least twice as high as whites through the 70s, 80s, 90s, and to the present.

this should be good.
 
the funny part is you posted all those articles on eemployment and have no idea how they were compiled and how reliable and accepted the procedures are whether the analysis is being done by left, right, repub, or dem.

your articles make the distinctions between UNDERemployed and UNemployed. and your own articles dont dispute the validity of the statistic.

go read the shit you posted.
 
Dolemite said:
First of all you quoted numbers based on a survey of 60,000 people not the actual number of totally unemployed black people who got jobs.

Many of the black people who have nothing are not included in the figure 9.5% because that figure DOES NOT include people who's benefits have run out or have given up on finding work etc. The true unemployment rate for black people is closer to 2 * 9.5% than it is to 9.5%.

People who work 1 hour a week are considered employed in those 100,000* jobs





Only the nutty nut hunter has brought up conspiracies or mentioned the sky is falling.

Again you are quoting innacurate numbers.

They PHONED 60,000 people to arrive at those figures. They are estimates and not actual data.

People who fell off the unemployment rolls were not counted as unemployed in those estimates.


I'm glad when any person who is without the means to provide for themself is afforded the opportunity to do so. I am not impressed by fictional numbers based on phone surveys that undercount those who are doing poorly to make other people and financial indicators look better than they really are. But that's just me.


What is the non-seasonal U-6 number for black people?
the funny part is you posted all those articles on eemployment and have no idea how they were compiled and how reliable and accepted the procedures are whether the analysis is being done by left, right, repub, or dem.

your articles make the distinctions between UNDERemployed and UNemployed. and your own articles dont dispute the validity of the statistic.

go read the shit you posted.
 
Greed said:
the funny part is you posted all those articles on eemployment and have no idea how they were compiled and how reliable and accepted the procedures are whether the analysis is being done by left, right, repub, or dem.

your articles make the distinctions between UNDERemployed and UNemployed. and your own articles dont dispute the validity of the statistic.

go read the shit you posted.
The statistic is valid in describing what it says it is describing. And it describes those who are unemployed according to their definitions and based on a phone survey of 60,000 households. That definition of unemployed is not the same as the definition you find in the dictionary which states a person who is without employment is unemployed.



Im not a left/right/repub or democrat and I know what I posted and why I posted it, basically so that people willl understand the bullshit number you posted, even if those who wish to assign that fictional figure a real-world value don't think its bullshit.

and like i asked before and now for the 3rd time- What's the u-6 nonseasonal figure for black people?


Since you are so concerned about black people who have nothing and who have next to nothing, why don't you tell the board what that number is?
That's why you are a fraud and a bitch. You claim to give a fuck about black people who have nothing aka the black poor, but instead of discussing them you try to bring up bullshit personal attacks and political assignments that should have nothing to do with the mere discussion of how many of these poor under-employed, unemployed, discouraged workers etc are out there. Next response try to come up with something better than quoting things I have already alluded to, as if you are making me aware of what I actually posted numerous times and what you fuckin ommitted from the get go.


Take a look at Greed yall, he talks about people who have nothing, but refuses to discuss other black people who have nothing or next to nothing. They don't exist for him. They exist to economists and the Dept. of Labor. and those people living like that know they exist. If only Greed could see them.
 
Inner Cities Continue to Hemorrhage Jobs

Inner Cities Continue to Hemorrhage Jobs
By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writer
Mon Nov 28, 3:09 AM ET

WASHINGTON - Many of America's inner cities continue to hemorrhage jobs despite years of federal programs designed to improve their economies.

Nearly half of the country's 82 largest municipalities lost jobs from 1995 to 2003, according to a new Harvard University study. By comparison, only one of the surrounding metropolitan areas lost jobs during the same period.

A separate analysis by The Associated Press found that most inner cities targeted by the federal government's primary urban economic programs lost jobs as well.

In fact, the best-performing cities were not part of the federal empowerment zone and renewal community programs, which provide businesses with billions of dollars in tax incentives to expand and hire workers.

"It's sobering," said Michael Porter, a Harvard business professor who did the study for the university's Initiative for a Competitive Inner City. "It suggests that there are relatively few inner cities that are thriving in the sense of job growth."

Porter and his team analyzed how many jobs were added or lost in inner cities with more than 50,000 residents. They found that only 10 added jobs at a higher rate than surrounding metropolitan areas. All 40 inner cities that lost jobs did so faster than surrounding areas.

Among the best performing: Jersey City, N.J.; Long Beach, Calif.; Tulsa, Okla.; and Anaheim, Calif. Among the worst: Detroit; Grand Rapids, Mich.; Rochester, N.Y.; and Miami.

Thirty-two of the inner cities studied also had neighborhoods that were designated federal urban empowerment zones or urban renewal communities.

Of those, 12 showed an increase in jobs from 1995 to 2003. Only one, Mobile, Ala., added jobs at a higher rate than the surrounding metropolitan area.

"Whatever these programs were, the research and the experience suggests that their impact was marginal at best," said Alan Berube, a fellow at the Metropolitan Policy Program at the Brookings Institution, a think tank.

Brian Sullivan, a spokesman for the Department of Housing and Urban Development, said many businesses and communities have benefited from the programs. He said HUD is trying to better promote the tax incentives, especially among small-business owners.

But, Sullivan said, many communities could do more to remove local barriers to development, such as cumbersome regulations.

"We're not trying to preach to people that you are over-regulating," he said. "But it is true that in some parts of the country the regulatory climate puts out the unwelcome mat."

Examples?

"Take your pick," Sullivan said. "I don't want to point fingers."

Economic development experts agree that tax incentives alone will not revive urban areas with chronically depressed economies.

The cities should improve services and schools, build affordable housing and enact reasonable business regulations, Harvard's Porter said.

"There's no silver bullet," he said. "To get it right you've got to work on the fundamentals."

The Clinton administration launched the urban empowerment zone initiative in 1994, designating six zones, in New York, Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta and Baltimore.

Each was awarded $100 million for a host of programs, including job training, social services and tax incentives for businesses. Fifteen more empowerment zones were designated in 1998, each receiving about $25 million.

A HUD-commissioned assessment of the first empowerment zones found mixed results from 1995 to 2000. Although many individual projects were creating jobs and reviving neighborhoods, the study found no widespread, sustained job creation.

"There is little evidence to indicate that major reform or 'reinvention' occurred," the assessment said.

After President Bush took office in 2001, grants were phased out in favor of tax incentives.

"You can give somebody a one-time grant, but if you can cut their taxes each and every year, that's serious coin, potentially," HUD's Sullivan said.

Today, there are 59 federally designated urban empowerment zones and renewal communities, from Boston to Cleveland to San Antonio and Los Angeles.

But HUD said it has not compiled the necessary data for a comprehensive review.

The department announced in 2002 that businesses in those zones were eligible for an estimated $17 billion in federal tax incentives through 2009. But it is unable to say how many companies are taking advantage of the incentives — or how much money they are saving.

One tax credit, for hiring workers who live in empowerment zones and renewal communities, generated $207 million in credits in 2002, according to the Internal Revenue Service.

Sullivan said HUD is working with the IRS to generate more data on the tax incentives.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051128...LFI2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
 
Well, if anyone cares about black people on a black message board, black unemployment is still double that of whites.

Just saying.

I could only find data from 1972-present. I actually wanted to see how it differs from pre-civil rights legislation but couldn't find it.

The average difference for the 40 years shown below is 125%. So keep that in mind as you keep prioritizing your thinking between Democrats and Republicans.


Data extracted on: October 5, 2012 (2:34:01 PM EST)

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey

Series Id: LNU04000003
Not Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Unadj) Unemployment Rate - White
Labor force status: Unemployment rate
Type of data: Percent or rate
Age: 16 years and over
Race: White Black

Code:
Year	White	Black	% Difference
1972	4.8	10.3	115%
1973	4.1	9.6	134%
1974	5.2	10.6	104%
1975	7.3	15	105%
1976	6.7	13.3	99%
1977	5.8	14	141%
1978	5.1	11.6	127%
1979	5	11.4	128%
1980	6.3	14.4	129%
1981	6.3	15.7	149%
1982	8.5	19.5	129%
1983	7.5	18.7	149%
1984	6	15	150%
1985	5.8	15.1	160%
1986	5.8	14.8	155%
1987	4.9	12.4	153%
1988	4.6	10.7	133%
1989	4.3	11.3	163%
1990	4.7	11.8	151%
1991	5.8	11.9	105%
1992	6.4	13.4	109%
1993	5.6	12.1	116%
1994	4.9	10.3	110%
1995	4.6	10.9	137%
1996	4.2	10.5	150%
1997	4	9.5	138%
1998	3.7	9	143%
1999	3.4	8.4	147%
2000	3.3	7.1	115%
2001	4.1	8.6	110%
2002	4.8	9.3	94%
2003	5	10.6	112%
2004	4.4	9.9	125%
2005	4.2	9	114%
2006	3.8	8.8	132%
2007	4.1	7.9	93%
2008	5.2	11.2	115%
2009	8.6	15.3	78%
2010	8.3	15.9	92%
2011	7.6	15.9	109%
2012	6.8	13.4	97%
 
Well, if anyone cares about black people on a black message board, black unemployment is still double that of whites.

Just saying.

Code:
Data extracted on: June 7, 2013 (9:04:43 AM)

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey

Series Id:           LNS14000003
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title:        (Seas) Unemployment Rate - White
Labor force status:  Unemployment rate
Type of data:        Percent or rate
Age:                 16 years and over
Race:                [B]White[/B]

Download: 
Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec	Annual
2012	7.4	7.4	7.3	7.4	[B]7.4[/B]	7.3	7.4	7.2	7.0	6.9	6.8	6.9	 
2013	7.0	6.8	6.7	6.7	[B]6.7[/B]	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 

Series Id:           LNS14000006
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title:        (Seas) Unemployment Rate - Black or African American
Labor force status:  Unemployment rate
Type of data:        Percent or rate
Age:                 16 years and over
Race:                [B]Black or African American[/B]

Download: 
Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec	Annual
2012	13.6	14.1	14.0	13.1	[B]13.6[/B]	14.4	14.1	14.0	13.4	14.5	13.2	14.0	 
2013	13.8	13.8	13.3	13.2	[B]13.5[/B]
 
I don't know how black people can take any number seriously that comes from whites.

Whites will tell you its sunny outside, and make it look "OFFICIAL" and from the government... while you are standing, drenched in rain.

In Michigan, gas is over $4/gallon, and the government is saying the State economy is recovering.

How in the hell do they expect anyone to believe the economy is recovering when Michigan has the highest gas prices in recorded history and the highest in the United States?

But, they know there are a lot of fools out there who will believe anything, as long as they get to BLAME THE BLACK MAN, not take any responsibility, and hold on to their illusion that everything will return back to "NORMAL" (namely unchecked white supremacy).
 
I don't know how black people can take any number seriously that comes from whites.

Whites will tell you its sunny outside, and make it look "OFFICIAL" and from the government... while you are standing, drenched in rain.

In Michigan, gas is over $4/gallon, and the government is saying the State economy is recovering.

How in the hell do they expect anyone to believe the economy is recovering when Michigan has the highest gas prices in recorded history and the highest in the United States?

But, they know there are a lot of fools out there who will believe anything, as long as they get to BLAME THE BLACK MAN, not take any responsibility, and hold on to their illusion that everything will return back to "NORMAL" (namely unchecked white supremacy).
I think you can take what whites say seriously. The reason why is because they are proud of the state of things.

To them, 7.6% is a national achievement, New Normal and all that.

Even if you dispute the 7.6%, the data you would use to refute it is on the same website. They have no shame in providing data that completely undermines their vanity because they see nothing wrong with it. To them its just another way of looking at things.
 
Black Employment and Unemployment in June 2013

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I concur, especially if you have more reliable numbers. Do you ??? Please post !!!


I have facts.

Detroit is in bankruptcy.

That is a fact that contradicts any so-called government proclaimed improvement in the economy.

Further, Michigan's pension liabilities are getting worse by the month.

There are Emergency Financial Managers in more and more cities in Michigan.

Detroit is the largest city to have attempted a bankruptcy filing in the nation. No bailout for Obama despite bailouts for all those whites.

Obama has overseen 4 straight years of a failing economy. How about that for a number?

And, it is going to get a lot worse.
 
I have facts.

Detroit is in bankruptcy.

Fact, but only because you are relying upon White Numbers quoted in White Media? No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to sustain the premise as factual.



That is a fact that contradicts any so-called government proclaimed improvement in the economy.

Opinion. No numbers of your own to disprove that the national economy is improving.


Further, Michigan's pension liabilities are getting worse by the month.

Opinion, but probably true based on the "white numbers" in the "white media" reported in this thread. No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to make your opinion, factual.


There are Emergency Financial Managers in more and more cities in Michigan.

Opinion, though probably true -- if you believe the "white media." No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to make your opinion, factual.


Detroit is the largest city to have attempted a bankruptcy filing in the nation.

Opinion, though probably true -- if you believe the "white media." No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to make your opinion, factual.


No bailout for Obama despite bailouts for all those whites.

Opinion. No "white facts" or "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to prove your opinion that other "white cities" have been bailed-out by this Administration.


Obama has overseen 4 straight years of a failing economy. How about that for a number?

Opinion, unless you are relying upon some unstated numbers put out by the "white media." No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to make this opinion, factual.


And, it is going to get a lot worse.

Opinion; appears to be based primarily upon "white people" and their followers (like you) who opposed the President, especially the party of the <s>Re</s><u>No</U>publicans.
 
Are We Really Celebrating A Decline In Black Unemployment From 13.0% To 12.9%?

Are We Really Celebrating A Decline In Black Unemployment From 13.0% To 12.9%?
Cedric Muhammad, Contributor
10/22/2013

If there ever was an issue in Black America which should be viewed with non-partisan eyes it is unemployment. Despite counter-charges between Republicans and Democrats that one is more responsible than the other for economic improvements and setbacks, the 40-year statistical record (the Department of Labor has only kept statistics on Black unemployment since 1972) is that neither political party over that time period has changed the reality that the rate of Black unemployment remains double that of White Americans.

Even the supposed Clinton Boom came with costs unaccounted for. Had incarceration rates been factored in (more Black men were locked up in President Clinton’s 8 years than the combined terms of President Ronald Reagan and President George H.W. Bush) the unemployment rate would have been an estimated two points higher.

All of this comes to mind on days like today as I see headlines and numerous tweets upon the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) release of its Household Data Table A-2 which explores the employment status of Americans by race, sex and age. Sure enough I’m being bombarded with the news that the Black unemployment rate has declined from 13.0% in August to 12.9% in September. Never mind that the increase is partly due to the fact that over 120,000 Blacks not counted in the labor force last month have now re-appeared, and will probably disappear again, next month.

For perspective, 11,719,000 Blacks were not in the labor force in July. In August the number was 11,914,000. In September, we were at 11,792,000.

Though the civilian labor force has increased to 18 million 670 thousand from 18,511,000 and the participation rate with it to 61.3% this percentage is the lowest it has been since President Reagan was in office (30 years ago the labor participation rate was 61.7%). In fact last year’s labor participation rate was 61.2% with an unemployment rate of 12.9%.

What all of this means is that there should be a moratorium on celebrations and denunciations by Republicans and Democrats over this kind of miserable performance.

Both sides have been given ample opportunity to change this sad reality, with little to show for it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/cedricm...line-in-black-unemployment-from-13-0-to-12-9/
 
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Re: Are We Really Celebrating A Decline In Black Unemployment From 13.0% To 12.9%?

...the 40-year statistical record (the Department of Labor has only kept statistics on Black unemployment since 1972) is that neither political party over that time period has changed the reality that the rate of Black unemployment remains double that of White Americans.
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