Kanye is going to be on Jimmy Kimmel tonight.....

Yea people are missing the point. . . He really is trying to break barriers for people of color. But people think this is ego driven, I know fashion is minuscule but that's just a metaphor for what he is really trying to express.

How about he breaks down barriers here in America tho.. What would breaking down barriers in the Euro Fashion world do for blacks?..
 
People like to hear buzz words like "glass ceiling" "classism". Say that shit in a confident ass tone and people flock to it.
:lol::yes::smh:

these rappers need to stop promoting brands that dont like our black asses.
 
This.

People are silly as fuck if they really think Kanye is doing all of this to cross barriers "for his people".

He's doing this for himself. I don't think there is anything wrong with that either, but let's call it what it is. He's not mad that black people don't have access. He's mad that HE is not being given easy access to what other whites might have if they were in his situation.

Kayne is the very definition of a narcissist.

Kanye makes good music...dude has mad talent.... but all this crying in the media, calling himself the goat, and calling himself a social revolutionary (all white carrying that used up white bitch) is all too much contradiction for me to take dude seriously. He comes off like a spoiled brat.

Definition of narcissism? That's fucking laughable. Kanye put on more niggas in the industry then anybody I can think of besides Heavy D. He is the only rapper that actually owns a label that puts in the work that makes sure his artist put out the best possible album. Excluding the Blueprint he has been part of several classic albums from Commons "Be", John Legends first joint, shit Pusha T might have album of the Year Thanks to Ye'. He just put on Boy Wonder and Travis Scott and got them on as producers.

Every interview about fashion he metions Vergil, who he's known since childhood. You think when he gets on on fashion he ain't gon bring a team of black folks with him? Even when he attention whores its for somebody else's cause like what he did for Beyonce at the awards and what he did for black people in general for Katrina.

You might confuse his passion for ego but since he been in the industry Kanye had put on for black folks.
 
It's a lot of going nowhere ass dudes in this thread. If y'all can't recognize genius, then we're truly a lost race. When y'all die and ask God why he let us suffer so, he's going to mention how he sent us Jesus and Kanye, and we scoffed at both, being so enraptured in our omnipresent bamboozlery. We SCOFFED, people! I feel sorry for us. It's times like these that make me think of our babies.:(:smh:
 
Alright so actually looking at the video its not as bad as I thought it was hearing commentary about it. I get what Yeezy saying but he has to back this shit up man. He wants to do this for our culture and do that for our culture but charges 250 dollars for a tee? Air Yeezy's retail for something crazy?

He's speaking the good fight. But his actions don't back up his messages. I Don't know if he's confused about that or what.
 
Definition of narcissism? That's fucking laughable. Kanye put on more niggas in the industry then anybody I can think of besides Heavy D.

And what does that have to do with his narcissism. Kanye likes good music and promotes it. A muthafucka with his body of work saying he's surpassed Michael Jackson musically and socially is a narcissist to the 10th power. You're letting your love of his music fuck you up. A person that continually overstates their value is a narcisist. If we have never heard of Kayne West (and I like his music), absolutely nothing about the trajectory of music changes.

Look at the symptoms here and tell me that is not Ye:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
 
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Alright so actually looking at the video its not as bad as I thought it was hearing commentary about it. I get what Yeezy saying but he has to back this shit up man. He wants to do this for our culture and do that for our culture but charges 250 dollars for a tee? Air Yeezy's retail for something crazy?

He's speaking the good fight. But his actions don't back up his messages. I Don't know if he's confused about that or what.

man he wasnt saying shit. he look like a dumbass on there. trying to get mr cac to bless him.
 
Alright so actually looking at the video its not as bad as I thought it was hearing commentary about it. I get what Yeezy saying but he has to back this shit up man. He wants to do this for our culture and do that for our culture but charges 250 dollars for a tee? Air Yeezy's retail for something crazy?

He's speaking the good fight. But his actions don't back up his messages.
I Don't know if he's confused about that or what.

Man. I listened to an interview where he said he was a social revolutionary that was impacting society in the way MLK did.

I might actually agree with some of the things he says but it's like listening to dieting tips from a fat slob. I can't deal with the hypocrisy. He knows he's a hypocrite too. Kayne gives a shit about these "glass ceilings" because he feels like HE is being held down. This is not about black people. It's about HIM.
 
And what does that have to do with his narcissism. Kanye likes good music and promotes it. A muthafucka with his body of work saying he's surpassed Michael Jackson musically and socially is a narcissist to the 10th power. You're letting your love of his music fuck you up. A person that continually overstates their value is a narcisist. If we have never heard of Kayne West (and I like his music), absolutely nothing about the trajectory of music changes.

I could agree with you if he didn't show so much empathy for others. That's the part of the definition he doesn't fit. He doesn't diss other rappers, he helps other artist like Cheif Keef who are clearly out of his league, he doesn't show traits of jealously.

He's in the same vein as Ali and Pac. Extremely talented and extremely vocal. My grandad hated Ali for the same reasons you stated you don't like Kanye.
 
Just about everything Kanye has said is a contradiction from his actions. He's stole from indie artist and overcharges for the clothing he puts out. This is like listening to David Duke preach about racial equality. Dude is a joke because he's not practicing what he preaches at all.​
 
He's in the same vein as Ali Extremely talented and extremely vocal. My grandad hated Ali for the same reasons you stated you don't like Kanye.


Are you fucking serious?!!!! Ali went to fucking jail over his beliefs.

I'm done with this thread :lol::lol:

Muthafuckas in here comparing Kayne West to Ali :lol::lol:

I don't "dislike" Kayne. I'm just tired of the muthafucka overstating himself and crying about it because everyone doesn't agree.
 
I knew i outgrow BGOL i need i money back. These nigga on here going hard cause he "Talking white" what the fuck nigga for real you actually said that out loud.
 
I knew i outgrow BGOL i need i money back. These nigga on here going hard cause he "Talking white" what the fuck nigga for real you actually said that out loud.

Dude suddenly talks with a mild English accent.
:hmm:
...until he gets upset.

Why the fuck is he suddenly sounding like this? It's not like he's just not using slang or speaking clear and people are ignorantly saying he's "talking white", dude has completely changed his voice and accent and it's odd as fuck.​
 
Are you fucking serious?!!!! Ali went to fucking jail over his beliefs.

I'm done with this thread :lol::lol:

Muthafuckas in here comparing Kayne West to Ali :lol::lol:

I don't "dislike" Kayne. I'm just tired of the muthafucka overstating himself and crying about it because everyone doesn't agree.

It was a different era but him going to jail has nothing to do with they were both vocal about themselves in interviews and always divided people's opinions.
 
It was a different era but him going to jail has nothing to do with they were both vocal about themselves in interviews and always divided people's opinions.

It has everything to do with it.

Ali was talking about topics that mattered to people and he was willing to put his life on the line over it. This was about life-defining issues. Kayne West is on TV crying about the fact that he's not being given audience to run his own fashion line in partnership with the Euro-luxury brands.

You're too smart to be arguing this dumb shit man.

Dennis Rodman is also vocal. Howard Stern is also vocal and divisive. Shit, dumb ass Sarah Palin is vocal and divisive.

None of those fucks deserved to be mentioned with Ali because ALL they were-are is vocal and division. They don't stand for shit and all media-whores... literally and figuratively.

Ali was fighting the system, uplifting blacks, and going to jail over it.

Kayne just wants to be accepted.

Don't get the shit twisted because both are vocal. You have more reasoning skills than that.
 
It has everything to do with it.

Ali was talking about topics that mattered to people and he was willing to put his life on the line over it. This was about life-defining issues. Kayne West is on TV crying about the fact that he's not being given audience to run his own fashion line in partnership with the Euro-luxury brands.

You're too smart to be arguing this dumb shit man.

Dennis Rodman is also vocal. Howard Stern is also vocal and division. Shit, dumb ass Sarah Palin is vocal and divisive.

None of those fucks deserved to be mentioned with Ali because ALL they were-are is vocal and division. They don't stand for shit and all media-whores... literally and figuratively.

Ali was fighting the system, uplifting blacks, and going to jail over it.

Kayne just wants to be accepted.

Don't get the shit twisted because both are vocal. You have more reasoning skills than that.

:bravo:

Kanye is NOT that dude. People are are getting way outta hand with the comparisons.​
 
:bravo:

Kanye is NOT that dude. People are are getting way outta hand with the comparisons.​

Kayne is a very creative artist, one of the most successful of his era, and wants to get into other categories...nothing more....nothing less. His tactics, though quite estrogen-soaked, work for him and he'll continue to use them. I respect his work and ambition. This dude has an unrealistic vision of himself though. He makes good music...and even that is not category changing. If Kanye never made music again, it wouldn't change shit.... much less him talking about his "social impact". I bet you if you asked Kanye West who has had a greater impact on the world, him or MLK, he would actually take the time to think about it.
 
Man. I listened to an interview where he said he was a social revolutionary that was impacting society in the way MLK did.

I might actually agree with some of the things he says but it's like listening to dieting tips from a fat slob. I can't deal with the hypocrisy. He knows he's a hypocrite too. Kayne gives a shit about these "glass ceilings" because he feels like HE is being held down. This is not about black people. It's about HIM.

See that's my whole thing. The hypocrisy. WE are always going to make mistakes and contradict ourselves at times but his level of it is on like a million. Its so over the top.

And I don't feel its authentic. Maybe it is. BUt from the outside looking in it looks like he's using this to keep his name in the public eye. And that's a shame on his part because for his whole career he's let his music speak for him. He was a dickhead but he kept going platinum because he managed to let his music speak for him. More power to him and the niggas that's falling for his shit. I hope he takes all their money. :lol:

man he wasnt saying shit. he look like a dumbass on there. trying to get mr cac to bless him.

IMO, he was saying something but his actions don't back up his opinions. And I initially said fuck Ye for trying to get the same cac approval he shitted on Twitter with just a few weeks back but I didn't see it as acceptance on his part. He' vying for respect. I could apprecaite it if his actions backed his opinions up.....and his voice is fucked up. Fuck the bullshit. I don't care what no one says Kanye sound crazy as fuck. If that's called "talking white" then so the fuck be it. That nigga sounds stupid.

Muthafucka sounding like Terrance Howard and shit.
 
Just about everything Kanye has said is a contradiction from his actions. He's stole from indie artist and overcharges for the clothing he puts out. This is like listening to David Duke preach about racial equality. Dude is a joke because he's not practicing what he preaches at all.​

100% how I feel and I like his music and will continue to like it. But him as this revolutionary he's trying to portray himself as ain't working over here.
 
It has everything to do with it.

Ali was talking about topics that mattered to people and he was willing to put his life on the line over it. This was about life-defining issues. Kayne West is on TV crying about the fact that he's not being given audience to run his own fashion line in partnership with the Euro-luxury brands.

You're too smart to be arguing this dumb shit man.

Dennis Rodman is also vocal. Howard Stern is also vocal and divisive. Shit, dumb ass Sarah Palin is vocal and divisive.

None of those fucks deserved to be mentioned with Ali because ALL they were-are is vocal and division. They don't stand for shit and all media-whores... literally and figuratively.

Ali was fighting the system, uplifting blacks, and going to jail over it.

Kayne just wants to be accepted.

Don't get the shit twisted because both are vocal. You have more reasoning skills than that.

That's why I used the word traits. But I'll say it was a bad comparison. But I still don't think he's trying to be accepted, I just think he's trying to do some dope shit like he usually does.
 
Are you fucking serious?!!!! Ali went to fucking jail over his beliefs.

I'm done with this thread :lol::lol:

Muthafuckas in here comparing Kayne West to Ali :lol::lol:

I don't "dislike" Kayne. I'm just tired of the muthafucka overstating himself and crying about it because everyone doesn't agree.
Oh, you thought the comparisons would stop with MLK huh?

It was a different era but him going to jail has nothing to do with they were both vocal about themselves in interviews and always divided people's opinions.
The two are not remotely similar nor is their perception and treatment by whites or white power structure. Not one single white person or entity considers Kayne a threat or agent of change or power to mobilize the people. He has corporate sponsors, and attends fashion weeks, his biggest gripe currently is about not being able to design clothes for homosexual whites. You sound like a fucking fool.

I bet you if you asked Kanye West who has had a greater impact on the world, him or MLK, he would actually take the time to think about it.
And he would ultimately answer that his impact was greater worldwide. I assure you he would. And many of your fellow BGOL posters would qualify and justify it while calling you a hater.
 
Oh, you thought the comparisons would stop with MLK huh?


The two are not remotely similar nor is their perception and treatment by whites or white power structure. Not one single white person or entity considers Kayne a threat or agent of change or power to mobilize the people. He has corporate sponsors, and attends fashion weeks, his biggest gripe currently is about not being able to design clothes for homosexual whites. You sound like a fucking fool.


And he would ultimately answer that his impact was greater worldwide. I assure you he would. And many of your fellow BGOL posters would qualify and justify it while calling you a hater.

:lol: There is nothing hated more hated in America than a vocal, confident black man.
 
:lol: There is nothing hated more hated in America than a vocal, confident black man.

Kanye is not confident, he's masking his issues with over-the-top arrogance. If you want a real example of confidence I'd refer to Denzel. That's how you walk and talk with true confidence without the theatrical arrogance.​
 
:lol: There is nothing hated more hated in America than a vocal, confident black man.

damn man you be doing pr for kanye like no other.

in spite of all the evidence pointing towards one thing you go to another.

dude is leading a public double life...

he says one thing publicly then goes out and does another publicly.

how can he be taken seriously?

nobody hates kanye west the artist.

kanye west the person doesn't stand for anything.

and the fact you're sitting here defending him who's weeping because he can't be accepted by white people is just crazy
 
IMO, he was saying something but his actions don't back up his opinions. And I initially said fuck Ye for trying to get the same cac approval he shitted on Twitter with just a few weeks back but I didn't see it as acceptance on his part. He' vying for respect. I could apprecaite it if his actions backed his opinions up.....and his voice is fucked up. Fuck the bullshit. I don't care what no one says Kanye sound crazy as fuck. If that's called "talking white" then so the fuck be it. That nigga sounds stupid.

Muthafucka sounding like Terrance Howard and shit.

the crying voice :lol: i caught that too
 
damn man you be doing pr for kanye like no other.

in spite of all the evidence pointing towards one thing you go to another.

dude is leading a public double life...

he says one thing publicly then goes out and does another publicly.

how can he be taken seriously?

nobody hates kanye west the artist.

kanye west the person doesn't stand for anything.

and the fact you're sitting here defending him who's weeping because he can't be accepted by white people is just crazy

In the first interview on BBC he said he just wanted to help people. Like I said earlier he's helped more people in the music industry then any other artist I can think of. The point you dudes is missing is that he's trying to put his whole team on in the fashion industry, it's just not about him. Look at his interviews and listen to how many people he names his working with in fashion. When he gets on alot of other niggas are gonna be in a position to do big things. If you don't like his theatrics cool. But don't act like the nigga is all about himself and not putting niggas on. That nigga is making jobs. And right now he's hiring if you want to go work with him.
 
In the first interview on BBC he said he just wanted to help people. Like I said earlier he's helped more people in the music industry then any other artist I can think of. The point you dudes is missing is that he's trying to put his whole team on in the fashion industry, it's just not about him. Look at his interviews and listen to how many people he names his working with in fashion. When he gets on alot of other niggas are gonna be in a position to do big things. If you don't like his theatrics cool. But don't act like the nigga is all about himself and not putting niggas on. That nigga is making jobs. And right now he's hiring if you want to go work with him.

How is he helping so much more than Diddy, Jay-Z, Dre or Tyler...? Kanye isn't doing anything new by running a label, getting artist signed and trying to branch out. Just because he makes sure he announces it for you to hear doesn't mean it's anything new or he's doing more than your usual in his position. You're pretty much just drinking the kool-aid if you want to act like he's that far head in the game. Diddy does way more than what Ye's doing but you better believe it still comes down to HIS bottom line still, same with Kanye.​
 
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