I don't care with type of bat you use, the pony's not getting up. Did it ever occur to some of you that maybe, just maybe you cats are over thinking this shit? What the fuck are we black men frustrated about? What excuse do our women use to go to Italy, "Well, they're doing it too!"? I'm sure some will come in here and drop a jewel or two, and of course, the carpenters will come in here to build a cross to nail themselves to, but in the end, it ain't gonna mean shit, because there'll be another thread like this next week. In fact, the mods need to sticky this and an "SEC is overrated" thread to avoid the inevitable. When it comes to the dating habits of our modern brothers and sisters, y'all fail, because you keep trying to out think the room. Let the shit flow, if it doesn't move on. Stop trying to be fucking cute. And stop trying to make other people's narratives fit yours. Life can give you much better dating advice than these YouTube professors can.