You mean like Big Show just standing there and doing nothing even though he has an iron clad "non termination" contract:smh::hmm:

That's one right there.
Why the fuck would he want to help Bryan anyway? I know Kane's gone away to film his movie but having Show act like he and DBryan are buddies makes no sense. Bryan cashed in MitB and beat Show for the World Heavyweight Championship the same night he won it from Mark Henry. Show should be on Orton's side.





I wonder if they're getting ready to do a storyline about their relationship, or maybe they did have a real life spat.

I sense a storyline. If it keeps Sabin on tv, I'm cool with it but TNA should have given him and Ray another tv match. He supposed to get one a ex champ and they've had good matches.




He won major points with me for mentioning her disgusting no ass:lol:

:yes: Good to see a White dude recognize a flat ass.

AJ vs AA II should be crazy next week.
 
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Damn Samoan :angry: funny that every Samoan in pro wrestling is related some how.

Naomi has some serious batter in her cakes :D
 
This thread has been real WWE-centric lately, so I decide to dip a toe back into TNA and .... :angry: Dammit TNA!!!! THIS IS WHY I STOPPED FUCKING WITH YOU :angry:

[rant] Can somebody break this shit down for me. Is a AJ a heel or what? He turns into a face by having his music change and then a week later he comes out and does the whole "this job sucks" angle. I could be wrong, but it seems like they want him to be a heel, but the fans aren't buying it. He's one of the few TNA originals left, and the fans love him.

And what is the deal with the Bound for Glory tournament system. Maybe it my fault for only half paying attention to TNA, but that whole system seems overly convoluted as fuck. And including a match in the 11th hours that will give a guy like 20 points. :angry: If you want to have AJ in the tournament that bad, then book him win more matches and earn the points.
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This thread has been real WWE-centric lately, so I decide to dip a toe back into TNA and .... :angry: Dammit TNA!!!! THIS IS WHY I STOPPED FUCKING WITH YOU :angry:

[rant] Can somebody break this shit down for me. Is a AJ a heel or what? He turns into a face by having his music change and then a week later he comes out and does the whole "this job sucks" angle. I could be wrong, but it seems like they want him to be a heel, but the fans aren't buying it. He's one of the few TNA originals left, and the fans love him.

And what is the deal with the Bound for Glory tournament system. Maybe it my fault for only half paying attention to TNA, but that whole system seems overly convoluted as fuck. And including a match in the 11th hours that will give a guy like 20 points. :angry: If you want to have AJ in the tournament that bad, then book him win more matches and earn the points.
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Nah, they're trying to make Styles into a sorta Sting crow gimmick where he feels hurt by the company who didn't fully support him, yet in the end he'll fight to gain back the title. TNA ended that gimmick to bring back his old gimmick then turned around and went right back to his loner gimmick. To me the plan was always meant for Styles to win the tourney as seen by the fact that he wasn't part of the final 4 then last minute there's a last chance match that he happens to win and then take the title from Ray thus ending this horrible Aces & 8's group.

One of many problems i had was that Styles isn't very good on the mic and just the way TNA puts its shows together, it's hard to figure out if they know how to get to the end of a story. Like they have the being and end but suck at execution and delivery. Also it's sad because they're building Styles up again to win the title yet he doesn't have a long term deal locked in. How can you build him up to be champ but not secure him. TNA business model:smh:
 
This thread has been real WWE-centric lately, so I decide to dip a toe back into TNA and .... :angry: Dammit TNA!!!! THIS IS WHY I STOPPED FUCKING WITH YOU :angry:

[rant] Can somebody break this shit down for me. Is a AJ a heel or what? He turns into a face by having his music change and then a week later he comes out and does the whole "this job sucks" angle. I could be wrong, but it seems like they want him to be a heel, but the fans aren't buying it. He's one of the few TNA originals left, and the fans love him.

And what is the deal with the Bound for Glory tournament system. Maybe it my fault for only half paying attention to TNA, but that whole system seems overly convoluted as fuck. And including a match in the 11th hours that will give a guy like 20 points. :angry: If you want to have AJ in the tournament that bad, then book him win more matches and earn the points.
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They never established what AJ was and then they decided to use his real life contract dispute as an angle, the problem is the fans started chanting boring when he was giving his speech. As for the BFG series i've come to the conclusion that they made it more complicated just for the hell of it, the point system doesn't make sense and all it's done is fuck up the flow of the show:smh:
 
Nah, they're trying to make Styles into a sorta Sting crow gimmick where he feels hurt by the company who didn't fully support him, yet in the end he'll fight to gain back the title. TNA ended that gimmick to bring back his old gimmick then turned around and went right back to his loner gimmick.
I would have thought that even TNA would have been smart enough to know that the Sting crow gimmick was completely over .... guess not :dunno:​
To me the plan was always meant for Styles to win the tourney as seen by the fact that he wasn't part of the final 4 then last minute there's a last chance match that he happens to win and then take the title from Ray thus ending this horrible Aces & 8's group.
I love seeing Bully Ray as the top guy and I think he has what it takes to carry a company. But yeah, the Aces and 8's group should have ended a while ago. As others have said in here, TNA is too centered on stables.​
One of many problems i had was that Styles isn't very good on the mic and just the way TNA puts its shows together, it's hard to figure out if they know how to get to the end of a story.
They never established what AJ was and then they decided to use his real life contract dispute as an angle, the problem is the fans started chanting boring when he was giving his speech.
Totally agree. AJ is one of the few guys that I think can put on a awesome match with almost anyone. But NEVER leave him alone in the ring with a microphone for longer than three minutes. He does not have the mic skills to carry a 8 minute solo promo. In that single promo, he had the crowd, loss them, got them back, loss them again, and then left them completely confused in the end. ​
As for the BFG series i've come to the conclusion that they made it more complicated just for the hell of it, the point system doesn't make sense and all it's done is fuck up the flow of the show:smh:
I'm assuming that they want to make it feel like fantasy football. They must have forgotten that most wrestling fans don't tune in to watch a show about completing complex mathematical equations .... Just saying​
 
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I would have thought that even TNA would have been smart enough to know that the Sting crow gimmick was completely over .... guess not :dunno:

I love seeing Bully Ray as the top guy and I think he has what it takes to carry a company. But yeah, the Aces and 8's group should have ended a while ago. As others have said in here, TNA is too centered on stables.​

Well when you have Hogan and Eric running the show i'm sure they thought fans wanted an extremely watered down version of the crow gimmick.:smh:

I like Bully too and i think as a stand alone heel he'd be fine for the company but I also thought that for Bobby Roode. I thought Roode would be the companys top heel for years.

Which now that you mentioned it TNA is too faction heavy. Can anyone explain why Roode joined up with Kaz and Daniels? Other than helping Roode get into the final four it did nothing for Kaz and Daniels.

The whole tourney has like this king of the ring feel to it yet TNA doesn't spend the time to get the math right on matches,, which is probably because they have too many ways to get points. If you leave it to wins, losses and draws it would be easier for them to handle... How sad, several adults over running a semi large wrestling company have a hard time with simple math:smh::smh:
 
I'll be honest I haven't watched TNA since Sabin won the title. When TNA got rid of Joey Ryan, Taler Hendrix, Doug Williams etc it was almost a wrap but what TNA did to Jesse Sorrenson was low. So i'm boycotting till Hulk Hogan get released
 
I'll be honest I haven't watched TNA since Sabin won the title. When TNA got rid of Joey Ryan, Taler Hendrix, Doug Williams etc it was almost a wrap but what TNA did to Jesse Sorrenson was low. So i'm boycotting till Hulk Hogan get released


I'm trying to get back into TNA, but they're making it hard. I never brought into TNA being actual competition to the WWE. WWE is too big and TNA money isn't long enough to be a threat to Vince. But watching the last couple weeks of Impact, I got a feel of watching a dying ship. I can actual see TNA not being around in 5 years if they continue down the path they're on right now.

All R.O.H. needs right now is a good weekly tv show deal to make a move on the number two spot.

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This thread has been real WWE-centric lately, so I decide to dip a toe back into TNA and .... :angry: Dammit TNA!!!! THIS IS WHY I STOPPED FUCKING WITH YOU :angry:

[rant] Can somebody break this shit down for me. Is a AJ a heel or what? He turns into a face by having his music change and then a week later he comes out and does the whole "this job sucks" angle. I could be wrong, but it seems like they want him to be a heel, but the fans aren't buying it. He's one of the few TNA originals left, and the fans love him. ​


They were using AJ in the old Sting/Crow role for a while but he's been a pretty solid face the last couple weeks. Even in that promo, he ends it with his saying he likes being the "go to" guy and likes being the hero.
They were never going to turn him heel but they wanted to freshen him up a little before pushing him to BFG.

And what is the deal with the Bound for Glory tournament system. Maybe it my fault for only half paying attention to TNA, but that whole system seems overly convoluted as fuck. And including a match in the 11th hours that will give a guy like 20 points. :angry: If you want to have AJ in the tournament that bad, then book him win more matches and earn the points.

Maybe because I'm familiar with the old All Japan/New Japan round robin tournaments from back in the day but I've enjoyed the BFG Series including the execution. The math is spotless and they include matches from house shows and Xplosion.
Looking around, it's been reported that this was the way it was mapped out from the beginning so that they wouldn't have a final four until the last show before No Surrender, down to AJ losing to Aries earlier in the tournament to set up the rematch.

I'll be honest I haven't watched TNA since Sabin won the title. When TNA got rid of Joey Ryan, Taler Hendrix, Doug Williams etc it was almost a wrap but what TNA did to Jesse Sorrenson was low. So i'm boycotting till Hulk Hogan get released

Let's be honest, while I like Ryan and Williams, they hadn't been on the show in any real capacity in months (they dropped the ball with Ryan) so I'm doubting anyone that says they were going or are going to stop watching because those guys are gone.
You must have already stopped watching.
Except Brooke Hogan and Tara, they didn't cut anyone that had been used on tv with any regularity.
They didn't do anything to Sorensen. He was being overpaid and wanted to get back in the ring. They didn't want the liability so they let him go and a week later, he was booked. If he proves that he's durable, he'll probably end up back there.
Now how they did Daffney and Zema Ion, that was low.

I love seeing Bully Ray as the top guy and I think he has what it takes to carry a company. But yeah, the Aces and 8's group should have ended a while ago. As others have said in here, TNA is too centered on stables.​

Stables work. That's why everyone does them. I can't remember a time when WWE and TNA weren't doing stables/factions. TNA has three, WWE has at least three (the Shield is one itself and they're allied with Orton and HHH) and ROH just started another one with Homicide and Eddie Kingston.


I like Bully too and i think as a stand alone heel he'd be fine for the company but I also thought that for Bobby Roode. I thought Roode would be the companys top heel for years.

Which now that you mentioned it TNA is too faction heavy. Can anyone explain why Roode joined up with Kaz and Daniels? Other than helping Roode get into the final four it did nothing for Kaz and Daniels.

That was the purpose. Kaz and Daniels are a tag team. This put Roode back in the title picture. I'm with you, that guy has "It".


The whole tourney has like this king of the ring feel to it yet TNA doesn't spend the time to get the math right on matches,, which is probably because they have too many ways to get points. If you leave it to wins, losses and draws it would be easier for them to handle... How sad, several adults over running a semi large wrestling company have a hard time with simple math:smh::smh:

The math is on point. No mystery math here.
 
C'mon son. You drop heat like that .... we gonna that clip or at least some info :D​

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The commentators were freaking hilarious during that match. :lol:
And I don't know if they were piping in crowd chants are not, but if not :eek: They pop pretty big for Trish.

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Damn you Cody Rhodes, Randy Orton, and Jimmy Uso:angry::lol:

I see any good looking sista working or planning on working in the WWE will get cuffed:hmm:. I guess we can see some biracial superstars in about 25 years if they have kids together. I bet Naomi and Jimmy's son would be a beast with them black/pacific islander genes. I always saw Randy as a closet switch hitter. Jojo better get regular checkups. A black Rhodes wrestling in the future? what is the world coming to?:lol:
 
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Stables work. That's why everyone does them. I can't remember a time when WWE and TNA weren't doing stables/factions. TNA has three, WWE has at least three (the Shield is one itself and they're allied with Orton and HHH) and ROH just started another one with Homicide and Eddie Kingston.




That was the purpose. Kaz and Daniels are a tag team. This put Roode back in the title picture. I'm with you, that guy has "It".




The math is on point. No mystery math here.

Stables work but I just don't like how TNA does them, I didn't like how the MEM had two guys in tourney in the same group and at times made it seem like they didn't know the other guy was there. One week Joe joins the group and says he's gonna win, then the next week Magnus says the same thing and doesn't even acknowledge the fact that your new group partner is also in the tourney. I'm personally not a fan of two guys from the same group going after the same goal cause most of the time that's how groups end, guys start fighting over titles.

My problem with there math was you knew when the whole tourney started it was a platform for AJ to get a title shot and I honestly think they messed up in the math somewhere when they realized AJ after winning wasn't going to be in the final four so they make a match with the sole purpose of giving AJ enough points to get into the final four. To me that's poor math and booking that you didn't realize AJ's match ending the way it did wasn't going to get him in so lets have Hogan come out and fix it. If the plan was to have the final four decided on the last show before the PPV then don't make it look so obvious that its all about getting AJ in the finals, I mean everyone knew Park and Hernandez couldn't win that match and even if they did they still wouldn't have the points to get in.

I'm glad AJ is going back to his old gimmick, I'd much rather see him that way then this non crow gimmick. AJ is the kind of guy who's better seen and not heard. Promos are not his strong suit but his wrestling more than makes up for it.

I am a Roode fan, I think the guy does have the "IT" factor, like his shirt would say. I personally think when this is all over he should be the top heel in the company. He could be TNA's version of HHH minus the the whole I bang Stephanie part.

Side note- other than last night, I'm already tired of seeing Daniel Bryan get laid out every week by Orton. A top face in the company should have nights where he stands tall and looks like a serious challenge. You'd never see Cena or Punk or any other face get booked to be such an underdog in a match against a guy who he's cleanly beaten on Raw in the last 2 months.
 
Damn you Cody Rhodes, Randy Orton, and Jimmy Uso:angry::lol:

I see any good looking sista working or planning on working in the WWE will get cuffed:hmm:. I guess we can see some biracial superstars in about 25 years if they have kids together. I bet Naomi and Jimmy's son would be a beast with them black/pacific islander genes. I always saw Randy as a closet switch hitter. Jojo better get regular checkups. A black Rhodes wrestling in the future? what is the world coming to?:lol:

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Interesting post. That's some long term booking for your ass.

Stables work but I just don't like how TNA does them, I didn't like how the MEM had two guys in tourney in the same group and at times made it seem like they didn't know the other guy was there. One week Joe joins the group and says he's gonna win, then the next week Magnus says the same thing and doesn't even acknowledge the fact that your new group partner is also in the tourney. I'm personally not a fan of two guys from the same group going after the same goal cause most of the time that's how groups end, guys start fighting over titles.

That's the way they should end, imo. The titles, especially the world title, should be more important than being buddies in the same group.
I didn't have a problem with Joe and Magnus both being in it. In real life, mma fighters and boxers are friends but there's only one champ/top guy. I like wrestling being booked more like that than forcing issues that they aren't going to have settled in the ring. They knew they were going to be cutting down on shows and everyone in the BFGS wouldn't wrestle everyone else so unless they were going to have Magnus and Joe wrestle, they shouldn't hint at it.

My problem with there math was you knew when the whole tourney started it was a platform for AJ to get a title shot and I honestly think they messed up in the math somewhere when they realized AJ after winning wasn't going to be in the final four so they make a match with the sole purpose of giving AJ enough points to get into the final four. To me that's poor math and booking that you didn't realize AJ's match ending the way it did wasn't going to get him in so lets have Hogan come out and fix it. If the plan was to have the final four decided on the last show before the PPV then don't make it look so obvious that its all about getting AJ in the finals, I mean everyone knew Park and Hernandez couldn't win that match and even if they did they still wouldn't have the points to get in.

I've seen it reported by reputable sources with sources inside TNA offices that this is how it was planned from the beginning. They wanted to move AJ away from the title picture but keep him in the middle and not put him there until the end. They knew a lot of us would remember he couldn't get a shot until BFG and tried to sneak it through.

I'm glad AJ is going back to his old gimmick, I'd much rather see him that way then this non crow gimmick. AJ is the kind of guy who's better seen and not heard. Promos are not his strong suit but his wrestling more than makes up for it.

His best promos are when he's just talking straight, no character, no bullshit, just talk.

I am a Roode fan, I think the guy does have the "IT" factor, like his shirt would say. I personally think when this is all over he should be the top heel in the company. He could be TNA's version of HHH minus the the whole I bang Stephanie part.

That was the other guy they wanted to build up using the BFG Series and it worked. I think AJ needs to beat Magnus in the finals in a great, long match because Magnus needs the rub but Roode looks like hes going to be back in the title picture. TNA is stacked with guys that are a couple wins away from being world champ: Roode, AJ, Aries, Storm.

Side note- other than last night, I'm already tired of seeing Daniel Bryan get laid out every week by Orton. A top face in the company should have nights where he stands tall and looks like a serious challenge. You'd never see Cena or Punk or any other face get booked to be such an underdog in a match against a guy who he's cleanly beaten on Raw in the last 2 months.

They did book Punk like this and killed all his momentum from two summers ago.
I've been saying the same as you since SummerSlam and it's gotten worse just about every week on both shows. Even last night, he got to end the show on his feet but he didn't exactly kick anybody's ass like an Austin or Cena. If I know this and you know it, HHH knows it but he's positioned himself as the top heel again and doesn't have to take bumps so he's fine with it.
Damn, Zig Zag and Cesaro got beat. :smh:
 
Damn you Cody Rhodes, Randy Orton, and Jimmy Uso:angry::lol:

I see any good looking sista working or planning on working in the WWE will get cuffed:hmm:. I guess we can see some biracial superstars in about 25 years if they have kids together. I bet Naomi and Jimmy's son would be a beast with them black/pacific islander genes. I always saw Randy as a closet switch hitter. Jojo better get regular checkups. A black Rhodes wrestling in the future? what is the world coming to?:lol:

Real talk, when I was a kid I swore Dusty Rhodes was black
I thought he was just light skinned :lol:
I guess cuz of the way he talked and he was always around Sapphire
I'm still thinking they got some black ancestory
 
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That was the other guy they wanted to build up using the BFG Series and it worked. I think AJ needs to beat Magnus in the finals in a great, long match because Magnus needs the rub but Roode looks like hes going to be back in the title picture. TNA is stacked with guys that are a couple wins away from being world champ: Roode, AJ, Aries, Storm.



They did book Punk like this and killed all his momentum from two summers ago.
I've been saying the same as you since SummerSlam and it's gotten worse just about every week on both shows. Even last night, he got to end the show on his feet but he didn't exactly kick anybody's ass like an Austin or Cena. If I know this and you know it, HHH knows it but he's positioned himself as the top heel again and doesn't have to take bumps so he's fine with it.
Damn, Zig Zag and Cesaro got beat. :smh:

I'm not as big a Mangus guy as I am for Roode but I think your idea works, Mangus can pin Roode then get beat by AJ which could sent up a program between Roode and Mangus that could down the line help build Mangus up and lead to Roode winning the title from AJ.

Yeah I remember they did that with Punk but what I'm seeing with Bryan is just a complete lack of offense.:smh: To me he doesn't even look like an underdog, just a poor guy who gets his ass kicked every week, almost like the main event version of Zack Ryder... It's clear HHH is trying to play off and be the new age McMahon level heel but you're hurting both Orton and Bryan. He's making himself the focal point of every Raw. I'm waiting for the Raw where Bryan just kicks all types of ass but honestly with his build and type of offense its looking less and less likely he'll ever have that kind of night. Which makes this feud less enjoyable and almost waste the support Bryan gets every week.

It's a sad state when getting a concussion and being honest about how you feel basically buries Ziggler and honestly it looks like no matter how many top level matches Cesaro puts on they just wont back him. Cesaro could be a legit top guy for a long time but they'd rather push...Sandow:confused:
 
Real talk, when I was a kid I swore Dusty Rhodes was black
I thought he was just light skinned :lol:
I guess cuz of the way he talked and he was always around Sapphire
I'm still thinking they got some black ancestory

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that hard times promo was dope.
 
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They put her on the new NXT where she did a Beautiful People type gimmick. She asked the WWE for her release and got it. Don't know if she is wrestling elsewhere.

I haven't been in this thread recently. Bray Wyatt needed a big win but it shouldn't have come at the expense of Ziggler who is just starting to really to get look as a face. Save that for a future time and place on a PPV. Of course the fact that Ziggler is so good at selling may have played a part. Hell Dolph showed up on NXT a few weeks back against a guy making his debut and spent 70% of the match selling for the other guy.

I don't know if anyone saw the match but they should look for the NXT match between Antonio Cesaro and Sami Zayn(formerly known as El Generico). Zayn also just had a good match with Swagger on NXT.
 
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