Myth Of Blacks Commiting More Crimes---Numbers Don't Lie
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In every single category(total arrest),except for one(which is gambling),white people got us beat...And for the majority of those crimes,they got us beat by a wide margin,but somehow we're the animals...
Edit:we got them beat in Manslaughter and Robbery also,but its still dont negate what I said at the end...
Edit:we got them beat in Manslaughter and Robbery also,but its still dont negate what I said at the end...
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Soooooo....why are there more black people in jail than white people? Even proponents of the "blacks commit more crimes on a percentage basis than whites theory" don't have an answer to that question.
Look again.
That's easy. Laws are drawn to penalize black people...i.e. look at the incarceration rate based on the TYPE of drug. If cocaine peddlers were incarcerated at the same rate as crack peddlers, the numbers would be different for instance....same thing for users. Also there are a plethora of cops on record who have discussed TARGETING. They systematically target areas where minorities inhabit and the judicial system penalizing blacks for the SAME crimes at a higher rate than whites.
Black folks only make up 12% of the population.
the biggest answer is poverty.
the other answer is we are charged more after the arrest and charged with higher degree crimes.
much of that also goes back to poverty..
Poor people don't hire lawyers and get public defenders whose job is to move along the system and that is done through plea bargains.
Those still result in criminal records even if initially there is no time.
and we are 14% of the population for those looking to add shit to the game.
them commiting over 60% of the crimes is still telling in most categories.....but they aren't criminal by nature.....hmmmm
Ha! Now compare these with pre-integration numbers. Let's see what we got.
this line of thinking needs to be eliminated because it is parroting what the people who are targeting us are saying.
the fact is, they intentionally seek us out to lock us up and it goes from the police, to the judges, to congress....
did you not just read about the judge who was sending black kids to jail to get paid?
but its self propelled right?
fuck out of here
To go even further. The people that make up the system are more than likely to see you/us (a black person) as a criminal. As oppose to people they have more of an affinity with. Those people are seen as just kids or folks who made a mistake. So when a white kid get in trouble. They are least likely to be arrested and more than likely sent home with their parents. They may get a slap on the wrist and an expungement later or better yet. Pretrial intervention. We are rarely afford those opportunities.
The War on Drugs is being fought in communities of color. Police will find drugs where they look for drugs. So despite the fact that numerous studies indicate that Black people are less likely to use drugs than whites the drug war is fought in communities of color.
Wherever the DEA looks for drugs they will find drugs. Now if this war was fought in overwhelming white communities it would have ended much sooner, i.e. prohibition.
But maybe "change" is finally here because according to Colorlines.com Holden is looking to reverse some of these laws:
"According to Johnson’s report, Holder has been working with attorneys on a number of proposals that would reverse policies like three strikes laws and max-out sentences for low-level dealers. These reforms are expected to be announced as early as next week."
http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/08/ag_holder_hints_at_major_drug_sentencing_reforms_coming.html
Wherever the DEA looks for drugs they will find drugs. Now if this war was fought in overwhelming white communities it would have ended much sooner, i.e. prohibition.
But maybe "change" is finally here because according to Colorlines.com Holden is looking to reverse some of these laws:
"According to Johnson’s report, Holder has been working with attorneys on a number of proposals that would reverse policies like three strikes laws and max-out sentences for low-level dealers. These reforms are expected to be announced as early as next week."
http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/08/ag_holder_hints_at_major_drug_sentencing_reforms_coming.html
kogalee
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Tell me why are we committing 40% of the crimes,I just posted the numbers and yet you still say it...We dont even commit 30 % and yet you say we're committing 40% of crimes...
Its like people want to ignore it...
you folks are a trip.
Look..while I agree somewhat with what you are saying. "WE" (Black folk)are not committing 40% of the crimes. What we have is mostly repeat offenders. AA communities are more than likely to be fill with people at a disadvantage (for multiple reasons) that contribute to a higher rate of crime.
Summary findings
http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=17
During 2007, a total of 1,180,469 persons on parole were at-risk of reincarceration. This includes persons under parole supervision on January 1 or those entering parole during the year. Of these parolees, about 16% were returned to incarceration in 2007.
Among nearly 300,000 prisoners released in 15 states in 1994, 67.5% were rearrested within 3 years. A study of prisoners released in 1983 estimated 62.5%.
Of the 272,111 persons released from prisons in 15 states in 1994, an estimated 67.5% were rearrested for a felony or serious misdemeanor within 3 years, 46.9% were reconvicted, and 25.4% resentenced to prison for a new crime.
These offenders had accumulated 4.1 million arrest charges before their most recent imprisonment and another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release.
Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%).
Within 3 years, 2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide.
http://i.usatoday.net/news/pdf/Pew Center on the States, PSPP Recidivism Report.pdf
Exactly one of the points I was making earlier. Whites as a PERCENTAGE amongst themselves use drugs at a higher rate than Blacks yet Black people are incarcerated at much higher rates.
because other groups don't commit crimes against each other.
we do need to fight back and clean up but its not because of THIS.
its not to do it for appearances
these people in power are actively targeting us
how many innocent brothers are locked up behind bullshit and become a statistic?
wake up
Great post. 
every group commits crimes against each other....
most victims and perps look a like .
most perps commit crimes in the areas where they live and those that live there tend to look like them..
whites commit crimes against whites
hispanics commit crimes against hispanics
black commit crimes against blacks
on and on...
now look at the below link and you will see that the majority of cases that resulted in incarceration were drug offenses..
so tht explains why we amount to 28% of arrests and represent almost 40% of inmates
it also explains why whites amount to almost 70% of arrests but less than 60% of incarceration.
http://www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp
Keep in mind that those White crime rates will never be correct. You are the last to get profiled by the police so youre the least likely to get your info put into the system. Think about if Whites were profiled just as much as Blacks. Or if those on the higher levels (like on Wallstreet execs, bankers, warmongers, etc) were included in those stats. I bet those numbers would triple.
lol@"our own people"
You imbeciles need to stop with the bs.
The "we're committing crimes against our own people" thing has been explained multiple times. And has been explained prior to all the Trayvon Martin bs. Please think of something new. Even though i doubt that you can.
Blacks, Whites, and Mexicans commit the majority of their crimes AGAINST THEIR OWN PEOPLE; at all almost the same rates. The reason I bring up Whites and Mexicans is because when people talk about crime within the Black community they try to make it seem like the bs is exclusive to only Black people. As if Black people are genetically inclined to attack their own people.
Some say, "Well Im not worried about other people!", but thats all bs. Theres usually no real "concern" about Black crime...the reason you say things like "Fuck the raw numbers!" ..."Black on Black crime".... "theyre 13% of the population" ...etc etc is because yorue either tryign to directly or indirectly prove your bs point.
Check the stats..since youre so into typing percentages. The Black population has increased over the years....and crime has dropped dramatically. Especially when compared to the 1990's. But based off what you typed.....when our population number increase....so should our crime rates? Because unlike other groups..we just like to commit crimes.
You all pick a few thousand knuckle heads out of 40-50 millions and just go to work. Theres no one answer why people commit crimes. But if you really want to help fix the problem..you need to examine violence in America as a whole..and stop looking at it as just a "Black issue".
Despite the different perks that certain people get within the justice system...bottom line is we all live in the same CORRUPT AMERICAN SYSTEM. The Black Americans dont breed criminals..AMERICANS breed criminals.
lol@"our own people"
You imbeciles need to stop with the bs.
The "we're committing crimes against our own people" thing has been explained multiple times. And has been explained prior to all the Trayvon Martin bs. Please think of something new. Even though i doubt that you can.
Blacks, Whites, and Mexicans commit the majority of their crimes AGAINST THEIR OWN PEOPLE; at all almost the same rates. The reason I bring up Whites and Mexicans is because when people talk about crime within the Black community they try to make it seem like the bs is exclusive to only Black people. As if Black people are genetically inclined to attack their own people.
Some say, "Well Im not worried about other people!", but thats all bs. Theres usually no real "concern" about Black crime...the reason you say things like "Fuck the raw numbers!" ..."Black on Black crime".... "theyre 13% of the population" ...etc etc is because yorue either tryign to directly or indirectly prove your bs point.
Check the stats..since youre so into typing percentages. The Black population has increased over the years....and crime has dropped dramatically. Especially when compared to the 1990's. But based off what you typed.....when our population number increase....so should our crime rates? Because unlike other groups..we just like to commit crimes.
You all pick a few thousand knuckle heads out of 40-50 millions and just go to work. Theres no one answer why people commit crimes. But if you really want to help fix the problem..you need to examine violence in America as a whole..and stop looking at it as just a "Black issue".
Despite the different perks that certain people get within the justice system...bottom line is we all live in the same CORRUPT AMERICAN SYSTEM. The Black Americans dont breed criminals..AMERICANS breed criminals.
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first of all, fuck you.
you arent Black anymore than i am the king of England.
second, youre on some bullshit. in Black people's cases more than one person is arrested for the same crime, some are exonerated, but far too many are convicted of THE SAME OFFENSE, even when they had NOTHING to do with it.
this DOES NOT HAPPEN TO WHITES at comparable rates.
thirdly, fuck you.
largebills was being sarcastic
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-2
Since most homicides are intraracial, the victim stats are way the fuck out of wack.
The crime stats are all over the place. The drug war is racist as hell, so numbers are inflated there. I'm more concerned with the homicide numbers. A lot of it's over bullshit. Cats letting bullets fly with no regard for people in the area.
Since most homicides are intraracial, the victim stats are way the fuck out of wack.
The crime stats are all over the place. The drug war is racist as hell, so numbers are inflated there. I'm more concerned with the homicide numbers. A lot of it's over bullshit. Cats letting bullets fly with no regard for people in the area.
subs for later because while driving is dangerous
this is often ignored. But should be examined. because the truth is the Black people who get targeted the most by the police/justice system are Black folks with priors. Thats why i try to stress to the younger Bothas that they need to make sure they dont have lengthy rap sheets....cause when u do you become a easy target; and also used to define 50+ million people.
Which means a lot of those Blacks that are counted could actually be whites; Whites that were claimed to be Black because of White folks one drop rule?
lol
All the dna shit is unnecessary. Theres no one answer to why folks kill each other. In America...one persons murder, in most cases, is no more justified than the other. Most times its over something petty or superficial. And thats across the board.
Like I stated...if youre gonna be real with the shit and examine violent nature amongst Humans...then you need to examine it as a whole instead of examining just one group.
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Tell me why are we committing 40% of the crimes,I just posted the numbers and yet you still say it...We dont even commit 30 % and yet you say we're committing 40% of crimes...
Its like people want to ignore it...
Don't come in here with bullshit like facts, numbers, and logic. Whitey says we commit more crime then it has to be true
True, but too much negative shit is glorified. In the hood, you mostly worry about murder, assaults, or robbery. Reduce those and the hood wouldn't be the hood. And a lot of the robberies are just cats trying to be "fly" and shit.
Word. These tap dancin', bootlickin', handkerchief headed turn coats clearly don't give a damn about facts or empirical data. I'm of da belief that these turn coats/sell outs need to be exterminated.
"And if you didn't already know, all these Uncle Tom, ass kissin' niggas gotta go..." - Dead Prez
Some People Comprehension Skill Are Quite Off ...........
yeah THEY are
full of shit,
if white communities lived in a police state and were fuckin frisked for just walking while white,
the fuckin population would be behind bars..
let the piglice infest white areas like they do the melanated ones.
They need to get
fuck OUTTA here with all that other cac hype bullshyt!!