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D.C. Council approves ‘living wage’ bill over Wal-Mart ultimatum
By Mike DeBonis, Published: July 10


D.C. lawmakers gave final approval Wednesday to a bill requiring some large retailers to pay their employees a 50 percent premium over the city’s minimum wage, a day after Wal-Mart warned that the law would jeopardize its plans in the city.

The retail giant had linked the future of at least three planned stores in the District to the proposal. But its ultimatum did not change any legislators’ minds. The 8 to 5 roll call matched the outcome of an earlier vote on the matter, taken before Wal-Mart’s warning.

“The question here is a living wage; it’s not whether Wal-Mart comes or stays,” said council member Vincent B. Orange (D-At Large), a lead backer of the legislation, who added that the city did not need to kowtow to threats. “We’re at a point where we don’t need retailers. Retailers need us.”

Whether or not Wal-Mart needs the District, it had spent the past three years wanting to enter the city in a way no other business had. Activists celebrated Wednesday’s vote, saying the company, which reported net income of $17 billion on sales of $470 billion in its most recent fiscal year, could afford to pay better wages. But the council action threatens to halt several developments anchored by Wal-Mart in neighborhoods long under*served.

“Nothing has changed from our perspective,” Wal-Mart spokesman Steven Restivo said in a statement after the vote, reiterating that the company will abandon plans for three unbuilt stores and “review the financial and legal implications” of not opening three others under construction.

The company’s strategy had to this point been calibrated to avoid political conflicts in a city of liberal sentiment, where the retailer’s earlier entreaties had been met with deep skepticism.

Well before it had any solid plans to open stores in the District, Wal-Mart joined the D.C. Chamber of Commerce and began making inroads with politicians, community groups and local charities that work on anti-hunger initiatives.

The campaign was matched with cash. Through its charitable foundation, Wal-Mart made $3.8 million in donations last year to city organizations including D.C. Central Kitchen and the Capitol Area Food Bank, according to a company spokesman. Meanwhile, it has kept a prominent local lobbyist, David W. Wilmot, on a $10,000-a-month retainer to smooth relations with elected officials.

The company has not disclosed what it has spent on plans and designs for its six D.C. stores, but development and retail experts say it is probably in the hundreds of thousands of dollars and possibly as high as $1 million per location. Some of the stores have undergone major design changes since they were first announced.

Should the bill be signed by Mayor Vincent C. Gray (D) and pass a congressional review period, retailers with corporate sales of $1 billion or more and operating in spaces 75,000 square feet or larger would be required to pay employees no less than $12.50 an hour. The city’s minimum wage is $8.25, a dollar higher than the federal minimum wage.

The vote sets up a high-profile veto decision for Gray, who has supported Wal-Mart’s entry into the city, arguing that the company would bring badly needed jobs and retail stores to neighborhoods in need of both. The three stores that the company has pledged definitively not to pursue are all in the city’s eastern half, in areas largely devoid of quality retail.

Gray made a particular push to have Wal-Mart anchor a development at Skyland Town Center, a site along Alabama Avenue SE near the mayor’s home that has long been eyed by city leaders for renewal.

Gary D. Rappaport, the project’s developer, has said Wal-Mart’s withdrawal would put those plans on ice. “If there’s not a Wal-Mart at Skyland, then Skyland is not able to go forward at this time,” he said late Tuesday.

The mayor initially called Wal-Mart’s announcement of its ultimatum “immensely discouraging” and said much the same in a letter to council members delivered Wednesday morning. “It is clear that numerous issues remain unclear about the impact of the bill on the District’s current economic development renaissance,” he wrote.

Gray, who has met recently with Wal-Mart representatives, reiterated “serious concerns over the lost jobs and retail opportunities for District residents that the bill will cause,” in a statement released after the council vote.

Before this week, Wal-Mart had made statements opposing the bill but had not directly threatened to withdraw from its plans.

Seven years ago, when the retailer moved to open its first store in Chicago and the City Council there passed a similar “living-wage” measure, the company indicated then that the bill would cause it to scale back or entirely scrap its plans to open several stores, Mayor Richard M. Daley vetoed the bill, and the council failed to override it.

The debate over the living-wage bill has been highly pitched, echoing conflicts elsewhere in the country over similar measures targeting Wal-Mart and other “big box” retailers.

Several dozen pro-Wal-Mart protesters rallied on the front steps of the John A. Wilson Building on Wednesday, while inside a larger group of living-wage supporters walked from council office to council office hoping to pick up additional votes.

“If you allow a bully to bully you, it’s never going to end,” said the Rev. Graylan Hagler, the senior pastor of Plymouth Congregational United Church of Christ and a leader of pro-living-wage group Respect DC. “There will be something else. There will always be another agenda.”

Hagler and union supporters hailed what they called the council’s resolve in the face of Wal-Mart’s warning but acknowledged that fending off a mayoral veto could prove difficult. “We’ve got some work to do,” he said.

Council member Yvette M. Alexander (D-Ward 7) said the company’s threats were credible and constituted her “worst nightmare.” She moved unsuccessfully to table the bill Wednesday before voting against it.

“This legislation is a development killer,” she said. “This legislation is a jobs killer.”

Orange, early in the debate, said the “District has arrived” as a desirable place for major retailers to locate. But council member Muriel Bowser (D-Ward 4), a mayoral candidate, said that was not true throughout the city. “When I go to Skyland, we have not arrived,” she said. “That project has been some 20 years in the waiting.”

Voting in favor of the bill were Orange, Chairman Phil Mendelson (D), David Grosso (I-At Large), Anita Bonds (D-At Large), Jim Graham (D-Ward 1), Jack Evans (D-Ward 2), Kenyan R. McDuffie (D-Ward 5) and Marion Barry (D-Ward 8). Voting against were Alexander, Bowser, David A. Catania (I-At Large), Mary M. Cheh (D-Ward 3) and Tommy Wells (D-Ward 6).

Tim Craig and Jonathan O’Connell contributed to this report.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...a301-ea5a8116d211_story.html?tid=pm_local_pop
 
Wal-Mart Could Easily Pay $12 an Hour
Written by Stacy Mitchell | Apr 28, 2011


Raising the pay of Wal-Mart’s U.S. workers to a minimum of $12 an hour would lift many out of poverty, reduce their reliance on public assistance, and cost the average consumer, at most, $12.49 a year.

That’s the conclusion of a new study published by the UC Berkeley Center for Labor Research and Education. The study is primarily concerned with the question of how raising Wal-Mart’s wages would affect poor families, including both those who work at its stores and those who shop at them. The benefits to poor families, the study concludes, would far exceed the costs.

Currently two-thirds of Wal-Mart workers — or about 900,000 employees — are paid less than $12 an hour. More than one-fifth earn less than $9. Overall, Wal-Mart’s hourly workers earn 12.4 percent less than retail workers as a whole.

Bringing these employees up to a minimum of $12 an hour would boost their annual income by $1,670 to $6,500 (depending on whether they are full- or part-time and their current pay rate). That amounts to a 37 percent increase on average for those earning less than $9, and a 14-16 percent increase on average for those making $9-12 an hour.

The study found that 41 percent of this additional income would flow to families at or below 200 percent of the federal poverty line.

Setting a $12 minimum wage at Wal-Mart would increase the company’s payroll costs by $3.2 billion a year. Some of this would likely be offset by increased labor productivity due to higher morale, lower turnover, and lower absenteeism. The rest could be absorbed through reduced profits. Wal-Mart posted a profit of $16.4 billion in 2010.

If Wal-Mart opted instead to pass the full cost on to consumers, it would need to raise its prices by 1.1 percent. The study found that 28 percent of this price increase would be borne by families at or below 200 percent of the federal poverty line, but the cost per family would be modest. The average consumer, who spends $1,187 a year at Wal-Mart, would pay an additional $12.49.

In passing, the study provides some interesting data on where Wal-Mart’s sales come from. Although Wal-Mart is commonly thought of as a chain that serves poor and low-income shoppers, 35 percent of its sales come from families earning more than $70,000 a year. Nearly one-fifth of its revenue derives from those with incomes of $100,000 or more.

http://www.ilsr.org/walmart-could-easily-pay-12-hour/
 
The best solution would be for Walmart to not open those stores anywhere near DC. The second best solution would be for Walmart to open the stores just outside of the city, hire non-DC residents, and deny DC as much tax revenue from those stores as possible.
 
The best solution would be for Walmart to not open those stores anywhere near DC. The second best solution would be for Walmart to open the stores just outside of the city, hire non-DC residents, and deny DC as much tax revenue from those stores as possible.
Best in terms of doing right, achieving profitability or claiming vengeance?
 
The best solution would be for Walmart to not open those stores anywhere near DC. The second best solution would be for Walmart to open the stores just outside of the city, hire non-DC residents, and deny DC as much tax revenue from those stores as possible.


I'm sure the bribe taking republican Virgina Governor will be willing to do the bidding of the Walmart billionaires.

I doubt if Maryland will play that shit.

Aren't these the politicians you say the people deserve?
 

The best solution would be for Walmart to not open those stores anywhere near DC. The second best solution would be for Walmart to open the stores just outside of the city, hire non-DC residents, and deny DC as much tax revenue from those stores as possible.


Best in terms of doing right, achieving profitability or claiming vengeance?


All three are the same in this circumstance.

Well, I have to say, that's consistent with your strike down the existing low-floor minimum wage and let them work for cheese, labor theory.



 
I'm sure the bribe taking republican Virgina Governor will be willing to do the bidding of the Walmart billionaires.

I doubt if Maryland will play that shit.

Aren't these the politicians you say the people deserve?
I bet Walmart would rather not have to payoff local politicians just to invest tens of millions in a store, inventory, logistics, and labor. Just guessing. But you're right, politicians are a mirror reflection of the voters.
 
The best solution would be for Walmart to not open those stores anywhere near DC. The second best solution would be for Walmart to open the stores just outside of the city, hire non-DC residents, and deny DC as much tax revenue from those stores as possible.

Best in terms of doing right, achieving profitability or claiming vengeance?

All three are the same in this circumstance.

What about this is doing right?

Wal-Mart's wages drive employees onto public benefits, report says
June 07, 2013 | By Alejandro Lazo, Los Angeles Times


Wal-Mart Stores Inc. wages are so low they force many of its employees onto the public doles, creating a drag on taxpayers and the economy, according to a new report from the staff of congressional Democrats.

The report analyzes data from Wisconsin's Medicaid program, estimating that a single 300-person Wal-Mart Supercenter in that state likely costs taxpayers at least $904,542 per year and could cost up to $1,744,590 per year, or roughly $5,815 per employee.


"While employers like Wal-Mart seek to reap significant profits through the depression of labor costs, the social costs of this low-wage strategy are externalized," concludes the report's authors, the Democratic staff of the U.S. House Committee on Education and the Workforce. "Low wages not only harm workers and their families — they cost taxpayers."

Titled "The Low-Wage Drag on Our Economy: Wal-Mart's Low Wages and Their Effect on Taxpayers and Economic Growth," the report is an update to a 2004 report. The revised version advocates for several measures, including reforming labor laws to make collective bargaining easier and raising the minimum wage.

The report analyzes data from Wisconsin because "it appears to be the most recent and comprehensive." The state released Medicaid enrollment by employer as of the fourth quarter of 2012.

Wal-Mart was first on the list with 3,216 employees enrolled in BadgerCare, the state's Medicaid program. Including the children and dependents of these employees, Wal-Mart accounts for 9,207 enrollees.

The report assumes that about a quarter of the store's employees enroll in other taxpayer-funded programs, including Section 8 housing, national school lunch programs, the earned-income tax credit and others.

Wal-Mart, in an analysis posted on its website, described the report as "flawed," criticizing the reliance on the data from Wisconsin to make "vast generalizations." In its rebuttal, the company said the report failed to take into account Wal-Mart's size and that the number of its workers on Medicaid is similar to other big retailers and comparable to the national average.

The company also notes that President Clinton's welfare reform law changed public welfare programs to focus on working families, increasing Medicaid eligibility by as much as 300% above the poverty line.

Concern over wages at Wal-Mart is not new. The company has a long history of discouraging unions from representing workers and has long been criticized because a chunk of its workforce is on public assistance.

In California, lawmakers are concerned that the public will get saddled with even bigger expenses from Wal-Mart employees as the federal health care law expands. Legislators in the Golden State are calling for fines that could reach about $6,000 for every full-time employee who ends up on Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program for the poor.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun/07/business/la-fi-wal-mart-wages-20130607
 
I bet Walmart would rather not have to payoff local politicians just to invest tens of millions in a store, inventory, logistics, and labor. Just guessing. But you're right, politicians are a mirror reflection of the voters.

Especially right wing/republican politicians, which are, by far the greater cause of today's economic malaise.
 
What about this is doing right?
It's right because Walmart isn't accepting an undeserved guilt.

Minimum wage not being enough to raise a family isn't the fault of Walmart or any other employers. The cost of living relative to the minimum wage isn't the fault of Walmart or any other employers. Workers only being worth minimum wage isn't the fault of Walmart or any other employers.

You and your government should stop promoting to people that minimum-wage should be enough to raise a family. You and your government should stop raising the cost of living through inflation, taxes, and "faux income" like easy credit. You and your government should stop creating inadequate low-skilled workers through the public education system.

You guys have terrible ideas about the differences between economics and politics. Jobs are not a type of welfare. Wages are not a form of charity. Employers are not villains and workers are not victims.
 
Especially right wing/republican politicians, which are, by far the greater cause of today's economic malaise.
I live in a solidly blue state, county, city, and city ward. I'm pretty sure Democratic voters deserve the corrupt government they have as well.
 
It's right because Walmart isn't accepting an undeserved guilt.

Minimum wage not being enough to raise a family isn't the fault of Walmart or any other employers. The cost of living relative to the minimum wage isn't the fault of Walmart or any other employers. Workers only being worth minimum wage isn't the fault of Walmart or any other employers.

You and your government should stop promoting to people that minimum-wage should be enough to raise a family. You and your government should stop raising the cost of living through inflation, taxes, and "faux income" like easy credit. You and your government should stop creating inadequate low-skilled workers through the public education system.

You guys have terrible ideas about the differences between economics and politics. Jobs are not a type of welfare. Wages are not a form of charity. Employers are not villains and workers are not victims.


The people that are raising the cost of living are the private business sector.

Capitalism at it's finest!
 
The people that are raising the cost of living are the private business sector.

Capitalism at it's finest!
That is an interesting assertion.

Can you explain for everyone how the dynamics of private business decisions lead to a higher cost of living, presumably to a degree that outweigh, or maybe even invalidates, the factors I laid out in my previous post?

Thanks in advance,
Greed
 
Exactly on point. We must vote these pricks out of office in 2014. Send them back to the caves where they belong.

-VG

Hail, Hail.

The problem seems to be, however, that the manner in which voting districts in this country have been drawn (especially congressional districts), being able to cast votes for progressive candidates (whether they be of a conservative, liberal or moderate/centrist stripe) has become damn near impossible.
 
That is an interesting assertion.

Can you explain for everyone how the dynamics of private business decisions lead to a higher cost of living, presumably to a degree that outweigh, or maybe even invalidates, the factors I laid out in my previous post?

Thanks in advance,
Greed


You explain, you seem to have no clue.
 
Hail, Hail.

The problem seems to be, however, that the manner in which voting districts in this country have been drawn (especially congressional districts), being able to cast votes for progressive candidates (whether they be of a conservative, liberal or moderate/centrist stripe) has become damn near impossible.


It's not just that.

Why is it so difficult to vote in "Black" or Democratic leaning voting precincts?

They always have shortages of machines.

This occurs in non 1964 voting rights act states such as Ohio.
 
It's not just that.

Why is it so difficult to vote in "Black" or Democratic leaning voting precincts?

They always have shortages of machines.

This occurs in non 1964 voting rights act states such as Ohio.

I agree, its rarely, if ever, "just that" -- whatever "that" is.

The particular problem that I was pointing out has nothing to do, per se, with obstacles to black voting, i.e., shortages of voting machines, etc. You don't have those kind of problems in the gerrymandered redistricted wards where our kind do not consist of enough votes to even constitute a possible sway -- which tactics now, in light of the Shelby County case, are free to go into over-fucking-drive.

Voting machines are checkers. I'm talking chess.
 
I agree, its rarely, if ever, "just that" -- whatever "that" is.

The particular problem that I was pointing out has nothing to do, per se, with obstacles to black voting, i.e., shortages of voting machines, etc. You don't have those kind of problems in the gerrymandered redistricted wards where our kind do not consist of enough votes to even constitute a possible sway -- which tactics now, in light of the Shelby County case, are free to go into over-fucking-drive.

Voting machines are checkers. I'm talking chess.

Voting machines are another form of literacy test.
 
They are a horrible company to work and shop. It is good to see the white pickup truck coming riding them out of town.

There are plenty of companies that will step in if they leave knowing they dont have to compete with Walmart.
 
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It's right because Walmart isn't accepting an undeserved guilt.

Minimum wage not being enough to raise a family isn't the fault of Walmart or any other employers. The cost of living relative to the minimum wage isn't the fault of Walmart or any other employers. Workers only being worth minimum wage isn't the fault of Walmart or any other employers.

The fact that Walmart pays minimum-level wages-- and lies about it-- is Walmart's fault.

You and your government should stop promoting to people that minimum-wage should be enough to raise a family.

How does government promote this idea?

Regardless, minimum wage isn't the issue here.

You and your government should stop raising the cost of living through inflation, taxes, and "faux income" like easy credit. You and your government should stop creating inadequate low-skilled workers through the public education system.

I've almost reached the end of your "Everything that's wrong with society" screed!

I'm sure corporate education will create much better workers. :rolleyes: :smh:

You guys have terrible ideas about the differences between economics and politics. Jobs are not a type of welfare. Wages are not a form of charity. Employers are not villains and workers are not victims.

In a country as rich as ours, having a job should secure your own welfare, at minimum. You guys would still have poor adults working for $5.15 an hour if you had your way. Workers are reduced to pitiful victims when all their work is for naught and one who eschews morality such as yourself is in no position to defend or comment on their villainous employers.
 
The fact that Walmart pays minimum-level wages-- and lies about it-- is Walmart's fault.
Walmart pays minimum wage for work that requires minimum skills. That's not a fault issue, that's good sense. What rocket scientists do you think are working the floor at Walmart?

I don't get the lying about it part.

How does government promote this idea?

Regardless, minimum wage isn't the issue here.
People promote that idea explicitly by calling for a "living wage."

The living wage movement is nothing more than an attempt to shift the welfare state to businesses. Once again, wages are not a form of charity.

I've almost reached the end of your "Everything that's wrong with society" screed!

I'm sure corporate education will create much better workers. :rolleyes: :smh:
I didn't say anything about corporate education. Don't gloss over the shitty job public systems do just because it's your preferred system.

Colleges routinely put high school graduates, with good grades, in remedial math and english courses. Walmart is smart not to give a high school graduate anything more than minimum wage. They have shown they don't deserve otherwise.

In a country as rich as ours, having a job should secure your own welfare, at minimum. You guys would still have poor adults working for $5.15 an hour if you had your way. Workers are reduced to pitiful victims when all their work is for naught and one who eschews morality such as yourself is in no position to defend or comment on their villainous employers.
Should? Based on what? Your good feelings? Your utopian thoughts don't get business done.

I don't know who "you guys" are, but I would have grown adults work for $2/hour if that was all they were worth. People are reduced to victims by your propaganda that there is something tragic about working for low-wages. Somehow everyone who works for a low wage deserves better. Well, if you keep promoting that every low-skilled worker is getting cheated, then won't they are feel like victims and isn't that your fault and not employers?

With that in mind, you should rethink your idea of morality, which is clearly detach from the actual interactions of everyday people.
 

Those incredulously <s>stubborn</s> stupid individuals, perpetually spewing-out lying talking-points, advocating for the perpetuation of the current minimum wage or even the elimination of any minimum wage laws — are either non-critical thinkers who are easily bamboozled by the talking-head ciphers coming through their television or radio (rush, beck, <s>fox</s> fake news, etc.) — or they are skilled propagandists (most of corporate America) —who have a vested interest $$$$$$ in convincing workers to believe the lie that they can’t afford to pay higher wages, because it will make the business non-competitive.

Paying low wages is all about more money for the shareholders of the corporation —that’s it, nothing more, just greed. In today’s world a publicly traded corporation’s primary concern is the next quarterly earnings report; 3 fucking months at-a-time. Got to get that stock price up. The corporate executive has stock options worth millions if the stock price goes up. The cost of labor is just another line on the excel spread-sheet that the executive is looking at. If he/she can either eliminate jobs (payroll) or significantly reduce workers’ pay & benefits, then quarterly corporate earnings will rise, the companies stock price will go up, the stock options the executive has will be worth millions and they can be converted into cash at a tax rate of only 15%. The executive wins $$$$$$, the workers lose and lose and lose.

Paying lower and lower wages even as corporate profits soar is now accepted and admired in corporate America — that wasn’t always the case. It doesn’t matter if it’s Walmart deliberately limiting the weekly hours of it’s neo-slave workers to a maximum of 27- 30 hours —or if it’s IBM, Oracle, Microsoft sending programming work to Bangalore India where it can pay an IT worker $35,000 a year rather than $100,000+ for a U.S. IT worker.

In the textile industry capitalism’s ominous race-to-the-bottom to find the country that will allow the lowest paid neo-slaves, resulted in the death of over a thousand $37 dollars a month workers in Bangladesh, as the non-regulated building they worked in collapsed into a death inducing pile of rubble. For the corporate owners sitting in boardrooms in New York, London & Milan, the death of the garment workers was meaningless; they were disposable people anyway.

50% of Walmarts 2.2 Million employees leave every year. That’s a staggering turnover & churn, but not surprising when one drills-down and fully understands the punitive work environment Walmart has created. Walmart knows they don’t pay a living wage; their lowly paid employees are supplemented with Government paid-for food stamps & Medicaid. Below is a pathetic and laughable video showing a web site fast food giant McDonalds set up counseling it’s neo-slave workers how to budget their meager and on this website their ‘invisible’ wages.



 
Walmart pays minimum wage for work that requires minimum skills. That's not a fault issue, that's good sense. What rocket scientists do you think are working the floor at Walmart?

I don't get the lying about it part.


People promote that idea explicitly by calling for a "living wage."

The living wage movement is nothing more than an attempt to shift the welfare state to businesses. Once again, wages are not a form of charity.


I didn't say anything about corporate education. Don't gloss over the shitty job public systems do just because it's your preferred system.

Colleges routinely put high school graduates, with good grades, in remedial math and english courses. Walmart is smart not to give a high school graduate anything more than minimum wage. They have shown they don't deserve otherwise.


Should? Based on what? Your good feelings? Your utopian thoughts don't get business done.

I don't know who "you guys" are, but I would have grown adults work for $2/hour if that was all they were worth. People are reduced to victims by your propaganda that there is something tragic about working for low-wages. Somehow everyone who works for a low wage deserves better. Well, if you keep promoting that every low-skilled worker is getting cheated, then won't they are feel like victims and isn't that your fault and not employers?

With that in mind, you should rethink your idea of morality, which is clearly detach from the actual interactions of everyday people.


This is the most ridiculous argument you keep bringing up. Why would Walmart hire anyone with minimum skills. If they can't read or express themselves to a standard that the Walmart customer or management can understand or if they have little or no skills, don't hire them.

The law says you can hire someone for a probationary period, 90 days, in some cases at below minimum wage. After that time period, if the person meets the employers satisfaction, they are either hired or let go.

It doesn't make any sense for Walmart to hire an employee that would cost them customers or not perform their job duties properly.

You, like all of the blood suckers want to hire people at slave wages and then lower the standard of living.

Are you suggesting that Walmart hire people that aren't qualified to do the job?
 

Those incredulously <s>stubborn</s> stupid individuals, perpetually spewing-out lying talking-points, advocating for the perpetuation of the current minimum wage or even the elimination of any minimum wage laws — are either non-critical thinkers who are easily bamboozled by the talking-head ciphers coming through their television or radio (rush, beck, <s>fox</s> fake news, etc.) — or they are skilled propagandists (most of corporate America) —who have a vested interest $$$$$$ in convincing workers to believe the lie that they can’t afford to pay higher wages, because it will make the business non-competitive.

Paying low wages is all about more money for the shareholders of the corporation —that’s it, nothing more, just greed. In today’s world a publicly traded corporation’s primary concern is the next quarterly earnings report; 3 fucking months at-a-time. Got to get that stock price up. The corporate executive has stock options worth millions if the stock price goes up. The cost of labor is just another line on the excel spread-sheet that the executive is looking at. If he/she can either eliminate jobs (payroll) or significantly reduce workers’ pay & benefits, then quarterly corporate earnings will rise, the companies stock price will go up, the stock options the executive has will be worth millions and they can be converted into cash at a tax rate of only 15%. The executive wins $$$$$$, the workers lose and lose and lose.

Paying lower and lower wages even as corporate profits soar is now accepted and admired in corporate America — that wasn’t always the case. It doesn’t matter if it’s Walmart deliberately limiting the weekly hours of it’s neo-slave workers to a maximum of 27- 30 hours —or if it’s IBM, Oracle, Microsoft sending programming work to Bangalore India where it can pay an IT worker $35,000 a year rather than $100,000+ for a U.S. IT worker.

In the textile industry capitalism’s ominous race-to-the-bottom to find the country that will allow the lowest paid neo-slaves, resulted in the death of over a thousand $37 dollars a month workers in Bangladesh, as the non-regulated building they worked in collapsed into a death inducing pile of rubble. For the corporate owners sitting in boardrooms in New York, London & Milan, the death of the garment workers was meaningless; they were disposable people anyway.

50% of Walmarts 2.2 Million employees leave every year. That’s a staggering turnover & churn, but not surprising when one drills-down and fully understands the punitive work environment Walmart has created. Walmart knows they don’t pay a living wage; their lowly paid employees are supplemented with Government paid-for food stamps & Medicaid. Below is a pathetic and laughable video showing a web site fast food giant McDonalds set up counseling it’s neo-slave workers how to budget their meager and on this website their ‘invisible’ wages.





This is the most ridiculous argument you keep bringing up. Why would Walmart hire anyone with minimum skills. If they can't read or express themselves to a standard that the Walmart customer or management can understand or if they have little or no skills, don't hire them.

The law says you can hire someone for a probationary period, 90 days, in some cases at below minimum wage. After that time period, if the person meets the employers satisfaction, they are either hired or let go.

It doesn't make any sense for Walmart to hire an employee that would cost them customers or not perform their job duties properly.

You, like all of the blood suckers want to hire people at slave wages and then lower the standard of living.

Are you suggesting that Walmart hire people that aren't qualified to do the job?

:yes:

What Greed advocates, whether he ever acknowledges it or not, is for the welfare state to support businesses (by supplying their employees with medical care and food) than for the businesses to pay their employees an appropriate wage.
 
If Walmart would clean up they could raise wages and increase productivity.

When I say clean up, I mean fire unnecessary, lazy associates, and get rid of very unnecessary positions.

Door greeters, lot attendants n shit. When I worked at target in high school. .. the joint I worked at sent the cashiers out to fetch them hoes. If you didn't. .. they fired da fuck out yo ass.

I agree... the owners of companies and even extremely successful small businesses are greedy and need to have some sort of law to abide by regarding employee wages depending on their income.

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If Walmart would clean up they could raise wages and increase productivity.

When I say clean up, I mean fire unnecessary, lazy associates, and get rid of very unnecessary positions.

Well, what you mean by clean up is extra. Above and beyond. But you were off to a bad start with the very first word of your post because Walmart "could raise wages and increase productivity" this very instant by raising prices 1.1% or shedding the equivalent in profit. Your "cleaning up" is beyond the point.
 
:yes:

What Greed advocates, whether he ever acknowledges it or not, is for the welfare state to support businesses (by supplying their employees with medical care and food) than for the businesses to pay their employees an appropriate wage.


And in the end, the tax payer gets hit twice. The Federal Government subsidizing Walmart to hire people who receive things like food stamps as well as Walmart getting tax breaks by local governments to actually build the building and then supplementing workers who cannot actual live on what they make at Walmart.


Helluva racket!
 
And in the end, the tax payer gets hit twice. The Federal Government subsidizing Walmart to hire people who receive things like food stamps as well as Walmart getting tax breaks by local governments to actually build the building and then supplementing workers who cannot actual live on what they make at Walmart.


Helluva racket!

:yes:

And the Walton family makes sure to support politicians who will keep that racket going.
 
This is the most ridiculous argument you keep bringing up. Why would Walmart hire anyone with minimum skills. If they can't read or express themselves to a standard that the Walmart customer or management can understand or if they have little or no skills, don't hire them.

The law says you can hire someone for a probationary period, 90 days, in some cases at below minimum wage. After that time period, if the person meets the employers satisfaction, they are either hired or let go.

It doesn't make any sense for Walmart to hire an employee that would cost them customers or not perform their job duties properly.

You, like all of the blood suckers want to hire people at slave wages and then lower the standard of living.

Are you suggesting that Walmart hire people that aren't qualified to do the job?
thoughtone, it's perfectly fine that you think working the floor at Walmart is a complicated job that deserves a higher wage than what they are currently getting. Thankfully Walmart knows better.

What you don't realize is I can take everything you say as canon and it would still end up being an extremely subjective truth.

Walmart can want an employee to deliver the skills you state but still only want it at the level justified with a minimum wage salary.

Of course, I think differently about the skill requirements of a Walmart associate. But even if I agree with your premises, they don't change my conclusion that they are paid what they deserve because they are low-skilled.

And in the end, the tax payer gets hit twice. The Federal Government subsidizing Walmart to hire people who receive things like food stamps as well as Walmart getting tax breaks by local governments to actually build the building and then supplementing workers who cannot actual live on what they make at Walmart.


Helluva racket!
You ever consider stopping with the subsidies? But of course, once you concede that the government should be in the wealth redistribution business, you have to be consistent no matter how many times it blows up in your face.
 
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