Dude you are so right. Anyone with any brain cells would also agree. The movie was very disappointing. Matter of fact it was a bad movie.
9 Ways Man of Steel Makes a DC Movie Universe More Difficult
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If they are gonna copy The Avengers model, then copy it. They didn't include Ant Man and The Wasp so just focus on the most bankable characters for Justice League. Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and Flash would be good enough to do Avengers numbers. Plus, you get the feminine appeal from Wonder Woman for merchandising.
Fuck all the league and just do the Trinity film!
trouble is,of course,who'd theyll get for the other two ppl..was rumored gina carano was going to be WW but that probably wouldnt work too well since henry cavill recently kicked her to the curb
maybe he'll try and get his new jumpoff kaley cuoco to dye her hair black....and now jefferey donovan(michael weston of Burn Notice) saying he wants to be the next Batman,siince his show on the way out
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I've been wondering about AquaMan in MoS2 also. A movie introducing AquaMan and reintroducing Luthor would probably be 3hrs. If done right, it could be really good.
Gotta Agree.
Its still too early for that, it may not make sense to most people now, but because of MOS 1 and how it ended they have no choice but to do Lex Luthor. He must be shown in any capacity that his intellect alone can out class Superman even with all his superpowers. Once the audience can acknowledge a normal man can cripple Superman, only then will people be able to truly accept BATMAN and SUPERMAN on the same level. Right now I can't even fathom the idea of NOLAN's poor excuse for a BATMAN being anywhere next to this incarnation of Superman. I understand people want to see team ups, but people have to have that oh I see Lex can do that, why not Bruce/Batman. In other words get em use to the atari joystic with one button before you show em the xbox1 controller, they wont be able to comprehend.
He did 3 batman movies, all three were good, a great trilogy, how is that being a bitch? I wouldn't want to see Bale as a JL Batman, this is a new series so it should come with new actors. And honestly, I wasn't too crazy about Bale's Batman, he did good but can easily be replace and I'm fine with that.
Yeah, I never bought Bale as Bruce Wayne for some reason. But I think it'll be better for appearances sake to attempt SOME type of continuity with the DC films. Otherwise it'll come off as a desperate attempt to emulate The Avengers (which it kinda is
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Fuck all the league and just do the Trinity film!
This is money !Also, Gina Carano? Did anyone watch or try to watch Haywire? That acting was terrible!
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Instead of the end of earth, how about the end of our universe?
And for the third/final film it could be something more personal or tragic like the death (then rebirth) of superman?
This to me is the obvious direction to go for the next movie and it should come out in 2016. It would be a sequel for MoS and a re-introduction of The Batman.The 2016 date would avoid direct competition with Avengers 2 and provides enough time from Nolan's Batman-verse(4 years since TDK Rises).Finacially, you figure MoS now at 524mil will end it's run at about 650-700mil. IMO, a Batman/Superman World Finest could easily make that and likely more. Especially if it's "properly" written and directed.
Totally agree!
Also, Gina Carano? Did anyone watch or try to watch Haywire? That acting was terrible!
That's why her part in "Fast & Furious 6" was perfect...minimal lines and screen time. When the camera was on her she was fighting
Totally agree!
Folks are crazy man. If any character needs to sell herself it's going to be Wonder Women. She's suppose to be the last leg of that three table chair. Superman/Batman/Wonder Women. She better be able to act and carry a movie on her own. Plus, the fact that Hollywood is having a hard time trying to sell a Major Women superhero.
I'll keep on saying it Gina Torres is perfect for the role. So what she's NOT white...
The Flash deserves his own film dammit!
DC/WB fucked up on the Green Lantern film, but they could set things straight doing a good ass flash film. Make sure it is Barry Allen (even though Wally West was cool) and show how Barry is very smart
This shot in true 3-D (not that post production bullshit) would be
DC/WB fucked up on the Green Lantern film, but they could set things straight doing a good ass flash film. Make sure it is Barry Allen (even though Wally West was cool) and show how Barry is very smart
This shot in true 3-D (not that post production bullshit) would be
Lord T,
For us non-super comic geeks help me out.
1) How much Faster is Flash than Superman? A lot or a little?
2) I understand his Speed can introduce other powers that are based on motion( Hitting real hard because lots of velocity behind a punch or time travel etc), But does he have any other abities non-Speed related?
I'm all for a Flash movie and based on the cartoons I think Ryan Reynolds would have been PERFECT for that character. He was really mis-cast as Green Lantern!
For us non-super comic geeks help me out.
1) How much Faster is Flash than Superman? A lot or a little?
2) I understand his Speed can introduce other powers that are based on motion( Hitting real hard because lots of velocity behind a punch or time travel etc), But does he have any other abities non-Speed related?
I'm all for a Flash movie and based on the cartoons I think Ryan Reynolds would have been PERFECT for that character. He was really mis-cast as Green Lantern!
1) Lots! Flash can run faster than the speed of light. While Superman is fast, and while flying in space can fly faster than light (in the New 52) he cannot run faster than the Flash.
2) The Flash has many abilities:
-Speed Force Conduit: The Speed Force is a vaguely defined extra-dimensional energy force from which most super speed powered heroes draw their powers. The Speed Force serves as the ultimate measure of velocity in the DC Universe. They are often referred to in terms of barriers: Sound barrier, Light barrier, Time Barrier, Dimensional Barrier, and finally the Speed Force Barrier. Barry Allen is the very source and creator of the Speed Force,and generates it with every step he takes. For this very reason, he is unaffected if any other speedster tries to steal or drain his speed. Barry Allen is the of the fastest of the Flashes, and is arguably one of, the fastest beings to have ever existed. He is currently fast enough to easily break all of the barriers and even enter the Speed Force itself, and is one of the few people to have ever escaped from it. He does not often go beyond Mach 10, as speeds above that level are catastrophic to the environment. He has outrun Death in the form of The Black Racer, and can reach any speed he can imagine, and more.
-Accelerated Healing: Speed Force conduits are not invulnerable nor durable enough to sustain damage however if they are harmed they will heal at high speeds. Any normal wear and tear damage to their bodies are almost instantly healed.
-Decelerated Aging: Speed Force conduits have a slowed aging process. This power can be imparted on their most intimate loved ones by extended contact rather than distribution.
-Energy Construct Creation: Speed Force conduits can use the matter generated by their speed to create solid objects such as walls or bridges. This power requires constant concentration and reapplication of the construct for it to remain stable.Barry Allen has mastered this ability and used it several times Flash's after images are also construct creations.
-Flight: Speed Force conduits can rotate their arms and spin their bodies like tops to achieve something of a kind of helicopter flight. However, with practice conduits can even achieve controllable flight if launched at high speeds. Despite their flight abilities they are always faster on their feet.
-Increased Perceptions: Speed Force conduits traveling at the speed of sound may miss important events as they run by. The Speed Force grants them enhanced senses that allow them to see, hear, smell, touch and/or taste at an increased speed and understand it as it is processed.
-Infinite Mass Punch: Speed Force conduits have an increased level of strength added to their bodies which they can impart in different ways. Certain speedsters can strength each and every move they make however this requires attention and stress for each movement and therefore is almost never used. In most cases conduits can focus the Speed Force's extra-dimensional energies into one massive punch; when used in practiced this punch pushed a metahuman from one continent to another.
-Phasing: Speed Force conduits can vibrate their molecules so quickly that they can achieve intangibility allowing them to phase through objects.
-Self Sustenance: Speed Force conduits travel at incredible speeds which cause their bodies to work overtime. In situations where their bodies may be too fast for them to breathe they may impart on the Speed Force for sustenance. However, this almost always results in the conduits having an increased metabolism at all times requiring them to constantly refill their energy supplies.
-Sharing The Force: Speed Force conduits can allow their friends or family members to run along side them at their equaled speeds. Certain conduits who may only have minor access to the Force may achieve full levels of the Force due to the main conduit's association with it.
-Speed Force Aura: People who are propelled by the conduits during high speed situations can survive the harsh conditions associated with mach speeds. When the conduit must rescue an individual from a burning building these individuals will be protected while within the aura.
-Speed Force Conduit: People who, for whatever reason, are connected to the Speed Force are sometimes called Speed Force Conduits. This means that they are connected to the Speed Force and are tethered to it. Some characters may control their Speed Force imparted powers in different ways such as only Superhuman Strength or even directed through Lighting but no matter their adaptions they are still connected to the Force.
-Steal Speed: Speed Force conduits can steal the accelerated motion or momentum from objects or people to reduce their speed or even virtually stop them. Conduits may also steal the speed from other Speedsters or other fast moving people.
-Supercharged Brain Activity: Sometimes neglected by Speedsters who only operate at superhuman speeds and never slow down enough to understand their full potential; Speedsters can access superhuman levels in their brains further than processing information. They can test theories, understand difficult equations and run trial and error in their brains at superhuman speeds. Different conduits access this activity in different ways.
-Superhuman Endurance: Speed Force conduits have to access the Speed Force for a number of different tasks. Most Speedsters use their superhuman speed and react at superhuman speeds; therefore, they must run for extended periods or operate for a large amount of time. Their bodies can handle the stresses of superhuman racing without noticeable distress.
-Superhuman Speed: Speed Force conduits have one main ability above all else. Conduits are connected to the barrier and accumulation of all Speed known in their universe. These characters immediately understand how to run at superhuman speeds and their bodies instinctively understand how to react at high-speed situations. Older speedsters have a reduced but maxed speed of 770mph which is just below sonic booms allowing them to react to situations without causing civilians undo stress. Speedsters in their prime can travel at much faster speeds such as the max level of recorded aided speed on Earth and even reach the speed of light with enough willpower. It is possible for conduits to travel much faster than the speed of light however such levels require an incredible amount of stress. Speedsters unaccustomed to their max level of speeds may detach themselves from the Speed Force or even become part of the Speed Force by accident.
-Vortex Creations: Speed Force conduits that plant themselves on the ground and rotate their extremities can cause an incredible amount of wind to burst through their focused funnel. Most Speedsters use this ability automatically when they run reducing the air currents around their body to low enough levels to no longer inhibit their speed. Creatively, Speedsters can create tornadoes and gusts with their arms.
-Super Speed Reading: He is capable of speed-reading at superhuman rates, accumalating mass amounts of knowledge in seconds.
After re-reading and thinking about it, I do agree also. Don't get me wrong, I liked MOS a lot and liked the collateral destruction that Zod and Superman caused in their fight, but was very surprised that Metropolis was destroyed that much in the first film! The World Engine is a E.L.E (Extinction Level Event), what is going top that?
Guess that's why the writers get paid the big bucks!
I think the writers were so caught up trying to go out of their way to do something BIG, they didn't realize the extra pressure they created on making sequel/sequels even meet the expectations MoS created.After re-reading and thinking about it, I do agree also. Don't get me wrong, I liked MOS a lot and liked the collateral destruction that Zod and Superman caused in their fight, but was very surprised that Metropolis was destroyed that much in the first film! The World Engine is a E.L.E (Extinction Level Event), what is going top that?
Guess that's why the writers get paid the big bucks!
Like I said, they blew their load too early.
Fuck all the league and just do the Trinity film!
Actress aside, I think the OG Wonder Woman outfit is a problem for a live action movie. Maybe I'm wrong, but i don't see how WW would be taken seriously wearing a crown, panties with stars and stripes and red boots with her boobs popping out swinging a magic rope that makes people tell the truth
Actress aside, I think the OG Wonder Woman outfit is a problem for a live action movie. Maybe I'm wrong, but i don't see how WW would be taken seriously wearing a crown, panties with stars and stripes and red boots with her boobs popping out swinging a magic rope that makes people tell the truth
I would think a movie version of Wonder Woman would use a more updated outfit
I have no type of interest in seeing a Wonder Woman movie but I never knew da full capabilities of da Flash's powers. Never knew he was so cool but a 3D Flash movie would be off da hook. "Who's that", "I'm with Batman", "Batman's real?!", "Yeah, and he's a total tool".
I never knew da full capabilities of da Flash's powers. Never knew he was so cool but a 3D Flash movie would be off da hook. "Who's that", "I'm with Batman", "Batman's real?!", "Yeah, and he's a total tool".
Not to mention that the fact the time it took Green Lantern to say "He's going to kill us" that ran from Central City (which is suppose to be in Missouri) to Metropolis (which is suppose to be New York)!
Another funny part that Flash said about Batman
Yeah Flash is somewhat underrated. This is the Wally West Flash in "Justice League". This is when he unleashes the Speed Force against Luthor that has merged with Brainiac
Something like this could difinetly work for the Live action outfit. Ain't no way in hell they would put her in a one piece.
Can you imagine this women wearing a one piece? Shitt you would hear nothing but belt-bucket clanking sounds throughout the movie!
Something like this could difinetly work for the Live action outfit. Ain't no way in hell they would put her in a one piece.
Can you imagine this women wearing a one piece? Shitt you would hear nothing but belt-bucket clanking sounds throughout the movie!
See this is the reason why WB/DC don't need to just throw everyone into a Justice League movie without their own film. Every main member of the Justice League is major. Batman is major. Superman is major. The Flash is major. Green Lantern is major (and even though he had a suck ass film, they need to suck it up and give him a way superior sequel or reboot). Aquaman is major and definitely needs his own film to show why he is cool/relevant to be part of the League.
The only two Avengers that didn't get their own film was Black Widow and Hawkeye, but they were showcased in other Marvel films. The only Justice League member I can see not needing their own stand-alone film is if they use Cyborg. I think his story could be told without a feature film.
But Wonder Woman would DEFINITELY need her own film to tell her origin story (in the New 52 she is the Daughter of Zeus), the Amazons, her weapons (lasso of truth and bracelets were forged by Gods and are indestructible), etc...
and to emphasize that she is one of the best fighters in the DC Universe, and that she doesn't take a lot of shit
Even Batman don't have an actual plan against her
Plus she would become a BGOL fave, because she doesn't mind having to kill
Yeah, she's a beast when she cuts loose. BUT, she's no Doomsday and she's definitely not taking down the entire league. Sorry!
I think totally unleashed she could take down most of the League. Please don't mention that Doomsday hack. He was good for one time taking down the Justice League. She has been said many times to be close to Superman in strength, even closer than Supergirl, and now with Zeus being her father in the newer version she has even more untapped powers.
She's a Demigod now, not created from clay like the original WW
Her bracelets now I think blocks some of her demi-god powers. When she takes them off she gets more of her God-like powers back. But the longer she has them off the more consumed she becomes and if removed too long and she won't be able to control herself and become consumed.
Wasnt Xena warrior princess, wonder woman, the two basically have the same damn type of villians. The greek Mythology is what has killed her, its been done soo many times in different incarnations, GOD of war, Hercules the legendary journeys, xena to name a few.
Also most female lead movies don't pull in the numbers needed to do well. They would have to release her movie during the fall winter season for people to even consider it.
Wonder womans villian suck as much as Thors, Chetah Ares, Giganta.
http://www.comicvine.com/profile/daffodil/blog/top-10-wonder-woman-villains/68667/
that line up is bad comedy, no wonder they tried to pull a smallville with her.
Also most female lead movies don't pull in the numbers needed to do well. They would have to release her movie during the fall winter season for people to even consider it.
Wonder womans villian suck as much as Thors, Chetah Ares, Giganta.
http://www.comicvine.com/profile/daffodil/blog/top-10-wonder-woman-villains/68667/
that line up is bad comedy, no wonder they tried to pull a smallville with her.
Xena was a knock off (albeit popular knock off) of Wonder Woman.
The Greek mythology hasn't been done right on the big screen. "Clash of the Titans" and the even worse "Wrath of the Titans" should not even be thought of.
Greek mythology done right will interest people to come see it. At least that's what I think.
Fall/Winter release is not a bad idea. It worked for Thor, and Thor 2 will have another fall release.
Seems like a rule of thumb: the more powerful you are, the worse your villains are!
But a Wonder Woman film could still be made using either Ares, the God Of War
Genocide (Wonder Woman's version of Bane or Doomsday)
Circe
All Wonder Woman needs is one film before the Justice League film. If the audiences love the first film, or like the the Hulk in Avengers love her in the Justice League film then they can think about a sequel.
ummmm no 
Circe could work, but Im looking at this from a totally male perspective too. WW will need a very strong Love story/Interest in the movie, geez just thinnking about this makes me think of SEX and The CITY with superpowers.
Circe could work, but Im looking at this from a totally male perspective too. WW will need a very strong Love story/Interest in the movie, geez just thinnking about this makes me think of SEX and The CITY with superpowers.
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