THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....

[Nochturnal]

And more Hogan at the PPV, really could have done without this


http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/286066/Click-HERE-to-Join-411s-LIVE-TNA-Slammiversary-Coverage.htm

-Hulk Hogan makes his way out now. He shakes hands with Sabin and raises his hand. Hogan says that Sabin should hear what the Maniacs sound like. He then says that he gives Sabin props, he has fought in Boston many times, and they love champions. Hogan brings up beating Andre, and says that Sabin is the future of the business. Just like last year, the X-Division champion will have a shot at the champion at Destination X. Hogan is betting on Sabin to get the shot this summer. I thought they dropped Destination X? Anyway, Hogan now says that he has business to deal with. Sabin is a great champion, but they have other things happening. Just then, the Aces and 8s music hits and Anderson, Bischoff and Briscoe make their way out. Anderson mocks Hogan as the crowd cheers for the Hulkster. He then says that Aces and 8s will rule tonight, and Hogan will be left on top of a mountain of bodies. Hogan says Anderson forgot where he is at, they are in Boston. No one is afraid of terrorists here in Boston, and they sure the hell aren't afraid of three pussies wearing leather. This is not Aces and 8s night, Park will win the TV title (and threatens to bitch slap Bischoff, because he's bitch like his old man) and then Sting will defeat Bully Ray for the world title. And now, since they are ready to go, it is time for the big six man tag.

 

[mad_bomber]

as far as last night's Impact goes:

-they slowly setting up a heel turn for Mickie James

-calling it now..not only will Sting lose this sunday,but Brooke Hogan will also join up w/ A & 8s

-why Dixie Carter look like she just came from getting her back blown out..looked like her hair was messed up and everything

Haha. Yeah TNA telegraphs a lot of shit, but to me it's still way superior to WWE these days. WWE is way too tame. Plus the knockouts

 

[Upgrade Dave]

as far as last night's Impact goes:

-they slowly setting up a heel turn for Mickie James

-calling it now..not only will Sting lose this sunday,but Brooke Hogan will also join up w/ A & 8s

-why Dixie Carter look like she just came from getting her back blown out..looked like her hair was messed up and everything

I'm of the thought they should have done that at Lockdown but as long as it happens, fine. She's really a pointless character otherwise. That's money they could spend on a working talent.

Haha. Yeah TNA telegraphs a lot of shit, but to me it's still way superior to WWE these days. WWE is way too tame. Plus the knockouts

Sometimes but after years of companies trying to swerve us all the time, I like companies using a little thing called foreshadowing.


Really good show last night, noticeable step up from Lockdown. Damn Taryn Terrell fought Gail like it was Drew McIntyre. That's probably the best match she will ever have.

 

[dirtyd]

And more Hogan at the PPV, really could have done without this


http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/n...Join-411s-LIVE-TNA-Slammiversary-Coverage.htm

-Hulk Hogan makes his way out now. He shakes hands with Sabin and raises his hand. Hogan says that Sabin should hear what the Maniacs sound like. He then says that he gives Sabin props, he has fought in Boston many times, and they love champions. Hogan brings up beating Andre, and says that Sabin is the future of the business. Just like last year, the X-Division champion will have a shot at the champion at Destination X. Hogan is betting on Sabin to get the shot this summer. I thought they dropped Destination X? Anyway, Hogan now says that he has business to deal with. Sabin is a great champion, but they have other things happening. Just then, the Aces and 8s music hits and Anderson, Bischoff and Briscoe make their way out. Anderson mocks Hogan as the crowd cheers for the Hulkster. He then says that Aces and 8s will rule tonight, and Hogan will be left on top of a mountain of bodies. Hogan says Anderson forgot where he is at, they are in Boston. No one is afraid of terrorists here in Boston, and they sure the hell aren't afraid of three pussies wearing leather. This is not Aces and 8s night, Park will win the TV title (and threatens to bitch slap Bischoff, because he's bitch like his old man) and then Sting will defeat Bully Ray for the world title. And now, since they are ready to go, it is time for the big six man tag.

Hogan just wanted to show off his disgusting hand. As for calling Sabin the future how is a almost past his prime injury prone wrestler the future?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

And more Hogan at the PPV, really could have done without this


http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/286066/Click-HERE-to-Join-411s-LIVE-TNA-Slammiversary-Coverage.htm

-Hulk Hogan makes his way out now. He shakes hands with Sabin and raises his hand. Hogan says that Sabin should hear what the Maniacs sound like. He then says that he gives Sabin props, he has fought in Boston many times, and they love champions. Hogan brings up beating Andre, and says that Sabin is the future of the business. Just like last year, the X-Division champion will have a shot at the champion at Destination X. Hogan is betting on Sabin to get the shot this summer. I thought they dropped Destination X? Anyway, Hogan now says that he has business to deal with. Sabin is a great champion, but they have other things happening. Just then, the Aces and 8s music hits and Anderson, Bischoff and Briscoe make their way out. Anderson mocks Hogan as the crowd cheers for the Hulkster. He then says that Aces and 8s will rule tonight, and Hogan will be left on top of a mountain of bodies. Hogan says Anderson forgot where he is at, they are in Boston. No one is afraid of terrorists here in Boston, and they sure the hell aren't afraid of three pussies wearing leather. This is not Aces and 8s night, Park will win the TV title (and threatens to bitch slap Bischoff, because he's bitch like his old man) and then Sting will defeat Bully Ray for the world title. And now, since they are ready to go, it is time for the big six man tag.

They mentioned this on Impact! but only once, so I wasn't sure if they were going to do it again. I'm glad they are and glad Sabin's going to get the shot. Ray works well with smaller guys.
Titles and wins meaning something? What a concept.

 

[The Pope]

THE STEVE AUSTIN SHOW
http://www.podcastone.com/Steve-Austin-Show?showAllEpisodes=true

good podcast, Steve has some good guests on regularly, I especially liked the ones with Kevin Nash

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Watching the tag team elimination match from Slammiversary and the biggest asshole (in a funny way) in wrestling is Christopher Daniels. First he and Kazarian cut that great promo and then when Aries and Roode came out, he stood in front of Christy Hemme, like to defend her from the dastardly Aries.
Funny guy.

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

Watching the tag team elimination match from Slammiversary and the biggest asshole (in a funny way) in wrestling is Christopher Daniels. First he and Kazarian cut that great promo and then when Aries and Roode came out, he stood in front of Christy Hemme, like to defend her from the dastardly Aries.
Funny guy.

speaking of aries didnt christy hemme file sexual harassment charges on him recently?

 

[J.U.S.T.I.C.E]

2 mcmahons in the ring at once...hells gonna freeze over and Stone Cold is gonna drive a monster truck in at 10 pm

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

AJ Styles new theme music used at last night's PPV:

 

[Nochturnal]

AJ Styles new theme music used at last night's PPV:

I was waiting for Johnny Cash to say, "Ain't no grave, can hold my body down." They need to get someone else to do their music....

 

[Simply Sickenin']

AJ Styles new theme music used at last night's PPV:

I don't see it being a wrestling theme, but it's definitely a good song. And I guess it fit the direction of AJ's character. I guess. The only TNA news I get is from this thread. I stopped watching Impact a minute ago. Way too much Hogan for me.

TNA needs to go back to doing stuff like this




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[Nochturnal]

I don't see it being a wrestling theme, but it's definitely a good song. And I guess it fit the direction of AJ's character. I guess. The only TNA news I get is from this thread. I stopped watching Impact a minute ago. Way too much Hogan for me.

TNA needs to go back to doing stuff like this




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Yes, and if they can, get Jay Lethal back.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

I was waiting for Johnny Cash to say, "Ain't no grave, can hold my body down." They need to get someone else to do their music....

Their music usually sucks, but when they get a theme right they nail it. AJ has usually had good themes.

 

[c_commander]

The AJ Styles new theme music is reminiscent of the Johnny Cash Undertaker theme but I like it.

That said this is my favorite theme song in wrestling right now. And I can't wait to see what they do with The Wyatt Family when they make their debut.



WWE really? They couldn't have let Ryback roll Cena in the ring so Axel could get the cheap pin as opposed to a countout which is as bogus as it gets especially in a No DQ match.

 

[richminded]

Ryback - db match was almost 5 star.... Bryan earned his stripes tonight

 

[Upgrade Dave]

speaking of aries didnt christy hemme file sexual harassment charges on him recently?

Nah. They had a little situation where she botched his intro (announced Daniels and Kaz as Roode and Aries were coming out) and he overreacted and got pissy. He cornered her as he stood on the turnbuckles and pissed her off.
They settled it internally and I've noticed that he doesn't go into the ring, instead he walks around it.

Their music usually sucks, but when they get a theme right they nail it. AJ has usually had good themes.

Yep. James Storm's theme has gotten so popular outside wrestling they use it on Steve Austin's redneck game show.

But damn all that and Raw last night
who else saw this...

MAJOR UFC STAR COMING TO TNA
by Mike Johnson @ 12:02 PM on 6/4/2013

SpikeTV issued the following press release, announcing that former UFC Light Heavyweight champion Quinton "Rampage" Jackson had signed a deal with the network that would see him appear for TNA Wrestling and Bellator MMA, as well as his own reality project.
Jackson was a huge star for PRIDE and UFC and was featured in the A-Team feature film adaptation as BA Baracas, the character made famous by Mr. T. Jackson appeared in characters, sort of, on an episode of Monday Night Raw to promote the film.

Jackson last fought for UFC in January of this year. His deal, on the surface, appears to be structured similar to a deal signed by King Mo Lawal to work for both Bellator and TNA. Thus far, Lawal has trained in TNA developmental OVW and wrestled there, but has not wrestled for TNA, instead making several non-wrestling appearances thus far

I always thought Rampage was perfect for wrestling but I always imagined he would pull a Lawrence Taylor/Floyd Mayweather and work for Vince at a Mania.

 

[dirtyd]

MAJOR UFC STAR COMING TO TNA
by Mike Johnson @ 12:02 PM on 6/4/2013

SpikeTV issued the following press release, announcing that former UFC Light Heavyweight champion Quinton "Rampage" Jackson had signed a deal with the network that would see him appear for TNA Wrestling and Bellator MMA, as well as his own reality project.
Jackson was a huge star for PRIDE and UFC and was featured in the A-Team feature film adaptation as BA Baracas, the character made famous by Mr. T. Jackson appeared in characters, sort of, on an episode of Monday Night Raw to promote the film.

Jackson last fought for UFC in January of this year. His deal, on the surface, appears to be structured similar to a deal signed by King Mo Lawal to work for both Bellator and TNA. Thus far, Lawal has trained in TNA developmental OVW and wrestled there, but has not wrestled for TNA, instead making several non-wrestling appearances thus far

I always thought Rampage was perfect for wrestling but I always imagined he would pull a Lawrence Taylor/Floyd Mayweather and work for Vince at a Mania.

Did you see that bullshit they pulled when he was a guest host on RAW? I'm sure Rampage didn't want to risk playing B.A again and suffering through that embarrassing crap Rampage is a very interesting signing and i hope he doesn't suffer the same start they King Mo did.

 

[RiverCity]

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Did you see that bullshit they pulled when he was a guest host on RAW? I'm sure Rampage didn't want to risk playing B.A again and suffering through that embarrassing crap Rampage is a very interesting signing and i hope he doesn't suffer the same start they King Mo did.

He's different from Mo as they expect Mo to be a long term project (him getting knocked out didn't help). I see Jackson being used right away and maybe working a match by BFG in addition to taking a match with Bellator.

 

[chrislee]

The only TNA news I get is from this thread. I stopped watching Impact a minute ago. Way too much Hogan for me.
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I suggest you subcribe to there youtube channel. I stopped recording WWE & TNA and started watching their uploads on youtube. They cut the promos and matches down to about 3 to 5 minutes. You can still follow everything without watching the full show.

 

[Simply Sickenin']

I suggest you subcribe to there youtube channel. I stopped recording WWE & TNA and started watching their uploads on youtube. They cut the promos and matches down to about 3 to 5 minutes. You can still follow everything without watching the full show.

That actually sounds like a real good plan. Especially in regards to keeping up to date with TNA.
Thanks brother

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[SadButTrue82]

As Booker would say, that boy D. Bryan has been putting in the work over the last few weeks, especially since he and Kane lost the tag titles. Hopefully he gets rightfully pushed in singles competition again.

 

[shywriter]

This dude has been on FIRE the last few shows. Hopefully they break-up Team Hell No and he gets a run at somebody's title.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

As Booker would say, that boy D. Bryan has been putting in the work over the last few weeks, especially since he and Kane lost the tag titles. Hopefully he gets rightfully pushed in singles competition again.

It always seemed like they don't want him to be a top guy but these last couple weeks, they've just gotten out of the way and let him work and he's over as big as anyone on their shows.
But given their track record, I'm afraid they're going to turn him heel just as he's taking off as a face.

 

[RiverCity]

 

[The Pope]

As Booker would say, that boy D. Bryan has been putting in the work over the last few weeks, especially since he and Kane lost the tag titles. Hopefully he gets rightfully pushed in singles competition again.

This dude has been on FIRE the last few shows. Hopefully they break-up Team Hell No and he gets a run at somebody's title.

I guess someone in WWE headquarters heard y'all:

Daniel Bryan vs. John Cena at MITB PPV?
Credit: F4WOnline.com

According to Dave Meltzer, there is talk in WWE of having John Cena vs. Daniel Bryan for the WWE Title as the main event of the Money in the Bank PPV in Philadelphia. While things could change, right now it's expected that Bryan would remain a babyface for the match.

Meltzer also speculated that this match would be part of WWE's plan to give John Cena "legend" status by having him beat The Rock, survive Ryback, and wrestle a possible match-of-the-year with Bryan in a short period of time.

 

[SadButTrue82]

I guess someone in WWE headquarters heard y'all:

Not to mention the obvious problem of you can't make Cena a legend...it either happens or it doesn't. Clearly they know Cena's time is running out but this idea that he's a legend cause he beat The Rock, survived Ryback (even though Ryback should have won the title in their last match) and now what they build up Bryan to be fed to the Cena machine

Bryan deserves better than that. I thought after Punk became a star they'd respect the smaller guys more. Bryan has basically, like Punk in a way gotten over with the crowd all by himself. He's gotten over with a decent gimmick and being a great worker...and how do they potentially reward him? Feed him to the "legacy" of Super Cena One of the best workers in your company and you fed him to Cena-lite in Sheamus and now Cena. Too much time spent on these non wrestling big guys and not enough on the real workers.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Not to mention the obvious problem of you can't make Cena a legend...it either happens or it doesn't. Clearly they know Cena's time is running out but this idea that he's a legend cause he beat The Rock, survived Ryback (even though Ryback should have won the title in their last match) and now what they build up Bryan to be fed to the Cena machine

I actually disagree with this. Pro wrestling is a worked event, they decide who becomes a legend and who doesn't, especially in this modern era where everything is so political and there are so few places to work. Cena's had a longer run than anyone else since probably Bruno, with a lot of great matches in the mix. His legend status is secure. He's not going to be remembered like Austin or Rock but there's a generation of fan who have come up and Cena is their Hogan.
Yeah, with that finish, Ryback should be champion. Dumb booking like that hurts Cena even more than his dumb promos.

Bryan deserves better than that. I thought after Punk became a star they'd respect the smaller guys more. Bryan has basically, like Punk in a way gotten over with the crowd all by himself. He's gotten over with a decent gimmick and being a great worker...and how do they potentially reward him? Feed him to the "legacy" of Super Cena One of the best workers in your company and you fed him to Cena-lite in Sheamus and now Cena. Too much time spent on these non wrestling big guys and not enough on the real workers.

Bruh, I don't know why you thought that.
Vince allowed Punk to get over to show he could but as soon as Punk re-signed, he slowed his push by jobbing him to, Del Rio, HHH and Awesome Truth. Then when he put the title on him, Cena got to main event with John Laurinaitis and Big Show.

 

[dirtyd]

I actually disagree with this. Pro wrestling is a worked event, they decide who becomes a legend and who doesn't, especially in this modern era where everything is so political and there are so few places to work. Cena's had a longer run than anyone else since probably Bruno, with a lot of great matches in the mix. His legend status is secure. He's not going to be remembered like Austin or Rock but there's a generation of fan who have come up and Cena is their Hogan.
Yeah, with that finish, Ryback should be champion. Dumb booking like that hurts Cena even more than his dumb promos.

Have to disagree with ya there Dave, they can't just create legends anymore which is why they're having to bring back all the past stars. Guys like Punk & DB already had a cult following but they needed a spotlight to get over, meanwhile Vince and his crew continue to churn out bust left & right in their desperate search to find the next SCSA/Rock.

 

[Simply Sickenin']

I guess someone in WWE headquarters heard y'all:

Daniel Bryan vs. John Cena at MITB PPV?
Credit: F4WOnline.com

According to Dave Meltzer, there is talk in WWE of having John Cena vs. Daniel Bryan for the WWE Title as the main event of the Money in the Bank PPV in Philadelphia. While things could change, right now it's expected that Bryan would remain a babyface for the match.

Meltzer also speculated that this match would be part of WWE's plan to give John Cena "legend" status by having him beat The Rock, survive Ryback, and wrestle a possible match-of-the-year with Bryan in a short period of time.

I know that Cena will go over in the end, so I'm just going to sit back and watch him have to take those HARD D. Bryan bumps and elbows. Cena is going to win, but Bryan is going to make him work for it

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[c_commander]

Have to disagree with ya there Dave, they can't just create legends anymore which is why they're having to bring back all the past stars. Guys like Punk & DB already had a cult following but they needed a spotlight to get over, meanwhile Vince and his crew continue to churn out bust left & right in their desperate search to find the next SCSA/Rock.

I have to disagree with you. They can but they have proven themselves unable to sustain a push. Cesaro was going well then they started jobbing him out. Same with Ziggler, Sandow, Rhodes,etc. Wade Barrett should have gotten the title when he was leading Nexus. Instead he was fed to the Cena machine, put in another faction jobbed out to Ezekial Jackson & now he's still stuck in the midcard.

 

[dirtyd]

I have to disagree with you. They can but they have proven themselves unable to sustain a push. Cesaro was going well then they started jobbing him out. Same with Ziggler, Sandow, Rhodes,etc. Wade Barrett should have gotten the title when he was leading Nexus. Instead he was fed to the Cena machine, put in another faction jobbed out to Ezekial Jackson & now he's still stuck in the midcard.

Creating a star is different than creating a legend especially in our microwave attention span society now. All those guys you mentioned could've been stars but who's to say they wouldn't have gotten crickets shortly after? You can't make people cheer a wrestler if they don't want to like in the 80s, we've seen too often fans cheer a wrestler then turn on him when the E decides to continue pushing him.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Have to disagree with ya there Dave, they can't just create legends anymore which is why they're having to bring back all the past stars. Guys like Punk & DB already had a cult following but they needed a spotlight to get over, meanwhile Vince and his crew continue to churn out bust left & right in their desperate search to find the next SCSA/Rock.

When I say "they", I'm not necessarily just speaking on WWE but on the companies in general, going back to the territories. It doesn't matter how hard you work, if the company doesn't want you to be a real star, you won't be, at least not for that company. Zack Ryder is the best example of that right now.
Both SCSA and Rock are legends because the company made them so. The problem is the guys who were part of that are no longer there and Vince has people writing to entertain him instead of the audience.

I have to disagree with you. They can but they have proven themselves unable to sustain a push.Cesaro was going well then they started jobbing him out. Same with Ziggler, Sandow, Rhodes,etc. Wade Barrett should have gotten the title when he was leading Nexus. Instead he was fed to the Cena machine, put in another faction jobbed out to Ezekial Jackson & now he's still stuck in the midcard.

Yes. Each of those guys was on the rise and then they made the choice to cut them off at the knees. I know he's been injured but Zeke was jobbing long before that. I'm shocked he's still employed. They all can be rehabbed but I don't see it happening for anyone but maybe Barrett and Cesaro.
What's funny to me is seeing people shit on TNA bringing in Rampage and always talking about TNA is going out like WCW but the company behaving like WCW is WWE. They're literally booking week to week for Raw. I just read a Foley interview where he talked to Ziggler at Mania about cashing in MitB and he had no idea when he was going to do it. WTF?! So he showed up at Raw the next night and it was "Zigs, you're getting the belt tonight." C'mon son.
I'm hoping against my own common sense and recent history that they do have a plan for DB and establish him as a serious main event guy. I don't like the idea of him wrestling Cena though. It would be better for him to challenge Dolph and try to regain the World title.


In other news

ANOTHER TNA RELEASE
by Mike Johnson @ 4:00 PM on 6/5/2013

Douglas Williams, who of late had been training in OVW as opposed to having a role in company storylines, has been released by TNA.
Williams follows Todd Kenely in being dropped by the promotion.

The talk over the last few days was that some names may be dropped in a cost-cutting measure, so there may be additional releases forthcoming. Stay tuned.

Now this is shit I don't like. With all the young guys they have, they need a trainer like Williams, who can still get in the ring and work. Seeing how they just signed Rampage, he would be perfect to work with Rampage to help him as they should put Jackson in a match at Bound For Glory (preferably against Kurt Angle).

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Creating a star is different than creating a legend especially in our microwave attention span society now. All those guys you mentioned could've been stars but who's to say they wouldn't have gotten crickets shortly after? You can't make people cheer a wrestler if they don't want to like in the 80s, we've seen too often fans cheer a wrestler then turn on him when the E decides to continue pushing him.

Yes, you can but you have to use them properly. There were guys that WWF wanted to use as faces that didn't get over in the 80s, like the Fabulous Rougeaus and the Honkytonk Man. They figured out how to use them and they got over much better as heels.
It's not the guy/talent. It's how they're used. Some very bad wrestlers made a lot of money in previous eras because someone knew how to hide their flaws and push whatever they could do right.
Vince's main problem is he and his team have set ideas of who they want to push and try to cram angles and faces down our throats. Cena used to be super popular back when he was feuding with Booker and then JBL but it's been the same act for over a decade now and he's gotten worse.