{--Miami Heat vs Indiana Pacers - East Conf. Finals 2013--Miami 4 - Pacers 3--}

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Wade ain't worried about Lebron

He thinking about where he can get some more turquoise skinny kapri pants for the summer

Yo dude you better watch your mouth before BDR's bitchass quotes your post and hits you with a zinger asking 'what about the way Russell Westbk dresses?!'. :smh:
 
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He had no choice

Now watch bosh and wade go off in the finals against the spurs

1 cause the spurs don't have old school bigs like west and Hibbert

bosh gets a pass, Im not sure Spo know what he wants from Bosh.
I love that take, when Hibbert blocked that dunk, that was some aggresive shit.
The thing with great shot blockers the chances of you dunking on them us slim, but maybe they foul you. The sure thing is, if you don't attack them
we'll never know.
 
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I dont see it happening bro. Wade is self check at this point. And the spurs have surprised the hell out of me with the way they have defended bigs all postseason. Dwight, Bogut, Gasol , Randolph all got flat out owned. Bosh adds a different dimension in that he can extend further out but both Duncan, Splitter, and Diaw cant defend him inside and out.

Bron gonna probably have to go superman solo again in that series. I dont see Wade and Bosh showing out.

Bosh will which will allow Wade to get to the paint... Ginobli is not a good defender.. Lenard will have his hands full with Bron

I think the Spurs are a better matchup for the Heat than the Pacers as you can see because of their front court issues against legit bigs
 
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Yeah man Bron is that type of car who affects the game on both ends and what's scary is he can do that shit whenever he wants but would rather everyone else on the team get shine




What you going to do whoop my ass? The fucked up thing is you don't even realize when a nigga is fuckin wit you.... So yeah keep exposing your inner moistness while I continue to laugh at your dumb ass Lmaoooo

Yeah man Bron is that type of car who affects the game on both ends and what's scary is he can do that shit whenever he wants but would rather everyone else on the team get shine

What you going to do whoop my ass? The fucked up thing is you don't even realize when a nigga is fuckin wit you.... So yeah keep exposing your inner moistness while I continue to laugh at your dumb ass Lmaoooo

Your right dude, I stand corrected! Fucking with you too chief! Please, don't threaten to beat me up via PM like you are prone to do! Ill back off, don't wanna get my ass kicked! :D
 
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Bosh will which will allow Wade to get to the paint... Ginobli is not a good defender.. Lenard will have his hands full with Bron

I think the Spurs are a better matchup for the Heat than the Pacers as you can see because of their front court issues against legit bigs

Kawai Leonard on Lebron is... :suicide:
 
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I'm not knocking Kawai but he's NOT strong enough to deal with Lebron.

... And I don;t know if there's anybody on the Spurs(or in the league) who can deal with Lebron... :smh:
 
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Charles Barkley said he told - I think Calangelo - after they played the Bulls in the Finals, that he didn't think they'd make it back.

Colangelo asked why and he said because, they hadn't even won anything yet, and dudes who didn't even play started to feel like superstars simply because they played on the biggest stage. Cats coming into the lockerroom with shades and shit ...lol ...


...I'm WONDERING if that's what is happening with Wade and Bosh. I don't trust that, 'we've won before, we can flip the switch' shit. As a Lakers fan, and having the most postseason success of any team in the past 10 years, I thought we could just 'turn it on'. Well, motherfuckers win a few rings and get complacent as hell.

Back in the day, D. Wade wasn't about that shit he's on now. I saw dude as a real warrior. D. Wade is talked about more for what he wears than his play.

You think that's a coincidence?

Now, that's not to say he won't 'turn it on' when the time comes...


...but it is abundantly clear that dude is not focused like he once was, and that NBA lifestyle has, and the success he's had, is starting to erode his focus and desire.

Bosh?

I don't know. Could be the same thing. This nigga on cooking shows making pouty mouths.

Lebron seems the only one still hungry.

But, that's the reality of his position in the game. Lebron is blessed and cursed like Kobe. When the team loses, it's their fault. So, those dudes are forced to remain focused on winning because losing does nothing more than make haters come out the woodwork to talk about how overrated they are.

Who cares if Bosh or Wade never win another ring? Nobody that I know.

Lebron, tho'? I hope dude don't have a breakdown from all the pressure. The downside of all the media hype is, you have to actually LIVE UP to all that shit. Also, it's a bitch being the only hungry person on your team. Well, I think Ray is a competitor, but he's not a dominant scorer anymore.
 
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Kawai Leonard on Lebron is... :suicide:

Pop going to have his hands full finding a player who can so what guard Bron shit going to be a murder lol

Kawai and Danny "happy feet" Green will get that task...along with the help of zone defenses I'm guessing.




How we got to a Spurs versus the Heat matchup???
 
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I'm not knocking Kawai but he's NOT strong enough to deal with Lebron.

... And I don;t know if there's anybody on the Spurs(or in the league) who can deal with Lebron... :smh:

Pops no Vogel though, and you don't have the success he's had not being able to adjust. If the Heat role players don't start performing, no way will Pop allow LeBron to beat them by himself 4 times. Fact is, LeBrons gonna get his regardless, but its the other number like his assist that will matter more than point...

Premature talk though, still have to get past Indy first!?! :D
 
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Pops no Vogel though, and you don't have the success he's had not being able to adjust.

I think people are going overboard on Vogel. Miami is the more talented team and has looked like an all-time great team the last two seasons....but Indiana has them struggling. When was the last time we've seen Miami looked this beatable? This has been a hard-fought series. I think Indiana has actually been leading this series for more than Miami. He made a bone-head decision with taking Hibbert out in game 2, but I don't think he's been fucking up that much. They have a chance to go home to force a game seven. You really can't expect much more from Indiana at this point...and his team clearly respects him. Hibbert said he owes everything to Vogel as he was the one who really started working with him when he was an assistant coach. They're gonna lose this series because Miami has Lebron...not like Coach Spo is outcoaching him or anything. Indiana won 49 games this year...not like they were world-beaters anyway.They had the 8th best record and are giving the champs a run.
 
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I think people are going overboard on Vogel. Miami is the more talented team and has looked like an all-time great team the last two seasons....but Indiana has them struggling. When was the last time we've seen Miami looked this beatable? This has been a hard-fought series. I think Indiana has actually been leading this series for more than Miami. He made a bone-head decision with taking Hibbert out in game 2, but I don't think he's been fucking up that much. They have a chance to go home to force a game seven. You really can't expect much more from Indiana at this point...and his team clearly respects him. Hibbert said he owes everything to Vogel as he was the one who really started working with him when he was an assistant coach. They're gonna lose this series because Miami has Lebron...not like Coach Spo is outcoaching him or anything. Indiana won 49 games this year...not like they were world-beaters anyway.They had the 8th best record and are giving the champs a run.

Yea the Spurs are a way better team than the Pacers, and if the heat are having a difficult time rebounding against the Pacers, they will have an even more difficult time with the Spurs. Bonner should hopefully bring Chris Anderson out of the paint on the reserve side, and Pop wont allow Haslem and Anderson to go off like the slow footed Hibbert has. I got the spurs coming out on top in 6.
 
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Yea the Spurs are a way better team than the Pacers, and if the heat are having a difficult time rebounding against the Pacers, they will have an even more difficult time with the Spurs. Bonner should hopefully bring Chris Anderson out of the paint on the reserve side, and Pop wont allow Haslem and Anderson to go off like the slow footed Hibbert has. I got the spurs coming out on top in 6.

They won't have the same issues against the Spurs. Hibbert is 3 inches tallert than Duncan and much longer (wingspan). Duncan won't give those the guys the same problems as Hibbert specifically does. Also, the Spurs don't have anyone as big and strong as West. Miami definitely matches up better with the Spurs than they do with Indiana from a personnel perspective.
 
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They won't have the same issues against the Spurs. Hibbert is 3 inches tallert than Duncan and much longer (wingspan). Duncan won't give those the guys the same problems as Hibbert specifically does. Also, the Spurs don't have anyone as big and strong as West. Miami definitely matches up better with the Spurs than they do with Indiana from a personnel perspective.

the monkey wrench is pop

he probably working on back up plans right now
 
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Didn't Lebron get swept by the spurs?

Who sticking tony Parker?
 
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I think people are going overboard on Vogel. Miami is the more talented team and has looked like an all-time great team the last two seasons....but Indiana has them struggling. When was the last time we've seen Miami looked this beatable? This has been a hard-fought series. I think Indiana has actually been leading this series for more than Miami. He made a bone-head decision with taking Hibbert out in game 2, but I don't think he's been fucking up that much. They have a chance to go home to force a game seven. You really can't expect much more from Indiana at this point...and his team clearly respects him. Hibbert said he owes everything to Vogel as he was the one who really started working with him when he was an assistant coach. They're gonna lose this series because Miami has Lebron...not like Coach Spo is outcoaching him or anything. Indiana won 49 games this year...not like they were world-beaters anyway.They had the 8th best record and are giving the champs a run.

That's a nice story on hibbert and Vogel but let's be real here. they have something they can do every possession and get a favorable result 9 out of 10 times. i see it, you see, miami fans concede to it.. but they don't do it ENOUGH. you can look at the numbers and say well wow they did a lot of it and they did a whole lot of it and miami won. but if you look at the game there are times we're scratching our heads wondering why they went away from it? and wondering why they aren't doing what they're supposed to for entire quarters.

3rd quarter last night they scored 13 points.
and they didn't go to the post almost at all.
now you know and i know the formula is simple. whether lebron is making shots or not when they feed it to hibbert or west indiana keeps pace. when they don't they lose. last night lebron was hitting everything. but if they go down the court and have a controlled possession it cools momentum. haslem hitting take the right shot it cools momentum. this is proven not even in theory. its proven.

just like when people were trying to excuse him not having hibbert in saying it didn't make a difference and since we've seen it makes a HUGE difference. its golden state and san antonio. thing is there isn't anything for the heat to figure out like the spurs did. there isn't a coach there to change up what the pacers do either.

so i understand what you're saying
but its inexcusable to me. everything i said would happen has happened. even with the role players not being able to get off with consistency because of the pacers and what they do defensively.

think about it last night they didn't go to the post enough and let haslem pick up his 2nd foul in the 3rd quarter they didn't go to the post and took long jumpers to fuel runs. lebron went all world and carried the team and the heat only scored 90 points...

that's a missed opportunity. you can get 90 EASY if you just take it to the rim. the post was never shut down. it was just abandoned. even the pick and pop new wrinkle with hibbert and george was money that they did...then never did again.

i respect the pacers. the heat are the better team. but you can't miss opportunities like this. you HAVE the team that could beat the heat. and you don't do it to death?

that's at least a demerit
 
Am just gonna say this..y'all see what King James did yesterday..if he plays like that the next 5 games it don't matter what Pop does or the coach from indy does..shit Wade could play around all he wants and it won't matter fam..the nigga is simply a beast when he channels it in..

I guess he showed you some heart @ itiswhatitis


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That's a nice story on hibbert and Vogel but let's be real here. they have something they can do every possession and get a favorable result 9 out of 10 times. i see it, you see, miami fans concede to it.. but they don't do it ENOUGH.t

Let me ask you this. When the Lakers didn't do it enough with Shaq was it always Phil Jackson's fault?

I think it's easy to blame this shit on the coach but the players have to play. I dont think Coach Spo did anything to make Lebron start attacking the basket. He just started making the best basketball plays in the 3rd.

The guards have to get the ball into the paint (and George as well). I think it's more the inexperienced team not making great decisions. It always seems to happen in the second half and that makes me think it's the players going away from the game plan...not the coach. The Heat step up the defense and make entry passes more difficult...and also start ball pressure earlier.... so the Pacers back-court players get antsy and start taking jumpers instead of what was working in the 1st half.
 
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Am just gonna say this..y'all see what King James did yesterday..if he plays like that the next 5 games it don't matter what Pop does or the coach from indy does..

and the Spurs really don't have the personnel to defend Lebron. IF he attacks the defense, he'll put up big numbers.
 
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The Heat take away things from other people. They dont have dominating front line size so they take it away from other areas.

So when people say teams "stop doing" things it is never as simple as that. It sometimes is as simple as they push a defender a few inches from his comfort zone, trap a little higher up, flatten out a pick and roll.
 
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Bosh will always get a pass from me

They don't use him right offensively

Have him as 3rd option when he should be 2nd

Have him shoot jumpers instead of him in the post where he is one of the top post players in the nba PROVEN
Then get mad when he can't rebound
All of this is for the sake of wade

If they ran a simple pick and roll with bosh and bron they'd score every trip

If they let bosh work in the post and have leberon as the cutter you'd get beat easily every night

Bosh is just being grossly mishandled

It's so stupid because you have what you need to rid of the post and big man issues

But you don't use him

Absolutely retarded

But having the best player is the best deodorant
 
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Bosh will always get a pass from me

They don't use him right offensively

Have him as 3rd option when he should be 2nd

Have him shoot jumpers instead of him in the post where he is one of the top post players in the nba PROVEN
Then get mad when he can't rebound
All of this is for the sake of wade

If they ran a simple pick and roll with bosh and bron they'd score every trip

If they let bosh work in the post and have leberon as the cutter you'd get beat easily every night

Bosh is just being grossly mishandled

It's so stupid because you have what you need to rid of the post and big man issues

But you don't use him

Absolutely retarded

But having the best player is the best deodorant
SOOOOO... MUTHAFUCKIN... TRUE!!!... :yes::yes::yes:
 
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Let me ask you this. When the Lakers didn't do it enough with Shaq was it always Phil Jackson's fault?

I think it's easy to blame this shit on the coach but the players have to play. I dont think Coach Spo did anything to make Lebron start attacking the basket. He just started making the best basketball plays in the 3rd.

The guards have to get the ball into the paint (and George as well). I think it's more the inexperienced team not making great decisions. It always seems to happen in the second half and that makes me think it's the players going away from the game plan...not the coach. The Heat step up the defense and make entry passes more difficult...and also start ball pressure earlier.... so the Pacers back-court players get antsy and start taking jumpers instead of what was working in the 1st half.

We watch and see no reason they can't do it. We both have all series.

And when he sees his team not doing it then he needs to make sure they do it for the simple fact they're so young

Phil had a name and rep by the time he coached shaq also phil is a I'll say it then see. He had won he had a rep a legacy.

This is where vogel should make his.
Its great to believe and instill confidence
Beat them over the head with the facts too.

I just want to see them do the thing and see lebron overcome it

Don't not do it just cause.

Back court is a huge issue
I'm not saying he's the worst..that's Brooks
I'm just hard on him because he seems like he has sense
 
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We watch and see no reason they can't do it. We both have all series.

And when he sees his team not doing it then he needs to make sure they do it for the simple fact they're so young

Phil had a name and rep by the time he coached shaq also phil is a I'll say it then see. He had won he had a rep a legacy.

This is where vogel should make his.
Its great to believe and instill confidence
Beat them over the head with the facts too.

I just want to see them do the thing and see lebron overcome it

Don't not do it just cause.

Back court is a huge issue
I'm not saying he's the worst..that's Brooks
I'm just hard on him because he seems like he has sense


I think it's the inexperienced backcourt that is causing the problem. It's obvious they have the advantage in the post and they attack that advantage to start the game. However, when the defensive pressure and intensity picks up, they default to more rushed shots or never get around to getting that pass into the post. For instance, despite the high advantage, Miami seems to take away the post on FRONTING. But when you have that type of height advantage, you should be able to pass over the front. However, instead of making that pass.. George and the other front court players always decide to swing in because they fear the turnover (in the second half). I replayed some of it to see what the problem is. Their backcourt doesnt seem to have the patience to go to the post if they dont get an easy entry pass early in the shot clock.

He's nowhere as bad as brooks. Brooks had a far more talented team and managed to only win one game against the Heat. Brooks is clueless. That muthafucka still giving Perkins big minutes.
 
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Last night just proved what I said pages and pages and pages ago. All that XO's shit doesn't matter. Bottom line is if Lebron attacks there is nothing Indiana can do. Hibbert west and George are good but they aren't consistent as Lebron is. He isn't a mismatch he is THE mismatch.

Far as next series (assuming they get in) Call me crazy but I don't think the Spurs will give the Heat the trouble the Pacers did. Indianas advantage is not only strength in the post but 2 options to score. Duncan can still summon it but the other dudes aren't threats. Plus Parker is the Spurs star, Miami's strength is perimeter defense. Plus when he gets Leonard ok foul trouble who's guarding Lebron? Danny green?
 
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Last night just proved what I said pages and pages and pages ago. All that XO's shit doesn't matter. Bottom line is if Lebron attacks there is nothing Indiana can do. Hibbert west and George are good but they aren't consistent as Lebron is. He isn't a mismatch he is THE mismatch.

Far as next series (assuming they get in) Call me crazy but I don't think the Spurs will give the Heat the trouble the Pacers did. Indianas advantage is not only strength in the post but 2 options to score. Duncan can still summon it but the other dudes aren't threats. Plus Parker is the Spurs star, Miami's strength is perimeter defense. Plus when he gets Leonard ok foul trouble who's guarding Lebron? Danny green?

Miami been raping the west all year

Heat's biggest threat was teams in the east NY,Chi and Indy

Heat are essentially a west team in offense and an east team in defense
 
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I think it's the inexperienced backcourt that is causing the problem. It's obvious they have the advantage in the post and they attack that advantage to start the game. However, when the defensive pressure and intensity picks up, they default to more rushed shots or never get around to getting that pass into the post. For instance, despite the high advantage, Miami seems to take away the post on FRONTING. But when you have that type of height advantage, you should be able to pass over the front. However, instead of making that pass.. George and the other front court players always decide to swing in because they fear the turnover (in the second half). I replayed some of it to see what the problem is. Their backcourt doesnt seem to have the patience to go to the post if they dont get an easy entry pass early in the shot clock.

He's nowhere as bad as brooks. Brooks had a far more talented team and managed to only win one game against the Heat. Brooks is clueless. That muthafucka still giving Perkins big minutes.


Well hill has proven he can't handle the pressure
And lance shouldn't be a starting two guard in the NBA

Same time someone has to make it happen. Its black and white how they win
Two things
One pace
Two post
One out of two don't cut it


I'm gonna start a fire brooks website easily the most frustrated I've been by a coach in my adult life
 
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Last night just proved what I said pages and pages and pages ago. All that XO's shit doesn't matter. Bottom line is if Lebron attacks there is nothing Indiana can do. Hibbert west and George are good but they aren't consistent as Lebron is. He isn't a mismatch he is THE mismatch.

Far as next series (assuming they get in) Call me crazy but I don't think the Spurs will give the Heat the trouble the Pacers did. Indianas advantage is not only strength in the post but 2 options to score. Duncan can still summon it but the other dudes aren't threats. Plus Parker is the Spurs star, Miami's strength is perimeter defense. Plus when he gets Leonard ok foul trouble who's guarding Lebron? Danny green?

I they can consistently get the ball for 4 quarters they can be consistent

I said from jump the difference will be lebron

But that was coupled with the pacers deviating from the plan which they can't afford to do
 
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Miami been raping the west all year

Heat's biggest threat was teams in the east NY,Chi and Indy

Heat are essentially a west team in offense and an east team in defense

A healthy OKC is a legit threat.
 
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I they can consistently get the ball for 4 quarters they can be consistent

I said from jump the difference will be lebron

But that was coupled with the pacers deviating from the plan which they can't afford to do

Yeah that's the point. It's very hard for a team to remained disciplined when they only have one way to beat the team in front of them. Indiana has to be an A+ at sticking to their plan to beat Miami. Heat have played like shit outside of Lebron and yet they are still on the verge of closing out
 
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