Manny Pacquiao demanding PED testing? wtf?

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Even if you despise Floyd you gotta admit this is that real bullshit. There is no defending this. Manny got his clock rocked by Marquez so now he wants testing, but it was bullshit of Floyd to be suspicious when his lil ass was jumping weight classes every fight and knocking everybody out. I'm a fan of both, but a spade is a spade.


Late last week it was revealed that Manny Pacquiao had requested random blood and urine testing for his upcoming bout on November 23 with Brandon Rios in Macau. On Friday, it was confirmed that the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) would be the organization entrusted with the task of testing both fighters.
To those who have followed Pacquiao's career for the last several years, the decision to actually request PEDs testing has to be more than a bit jarring, especially after his own tumultuous relationship with the concept.
For those who recall, a proposed mega-fight with Floyd Mayweather was all but signed, sealed, and delivered when a dispute over random blood testing forever killed the deal.
At the time, the Filipino icon balked at undergoing any PEDs testing above and beyond the minimum commission requirements, claiming that the drawing of blood would weaken him prior to the fight. The reluctance to budge on random testing eventually took both fighters to arbitration where the bout was officially killed off in January of 2010 when neither side would give in regarding a cut-off date for drawing blood prior to fight night.
Following the well-publicized collapse of this era's biggest money fight, Mayweather was painted as the unreasonable party, insisting on random blood testing for no other reason than the fact that unsubstantiated rumors of PEDs use and overwhelming Pacquiao performances caused him to be suspicious.
Fast forward to 2013 and the script has been flipped completely.
Fighters who demand and undergo random blood testing are not vilified, but given their just due. Members of the media who lambasted Mayweather for his demands just a couple of years ago are now commending other fighters who make similar demands. For those looking to explain the complete 180 on the issue, evolution of thought could be credited for the change. However, for those with a slightly cynical orientation, the word "hypocrisy" could also be applied.
And speaking of evolution of thought vs. hypocrisy; we come back to Pacquiao's recent demand for random PEDs testing.
Back when Juan Manuel Marquez debuted his new, muscular look prior to his fourth clash with Pacquiao, rumor and innuendo began to emerge. Fingers were pointed at Marquez's controversial strength and conditioning coach, Angel "Memo" Heredia, a confessed PEDs distributor who turned state's evidence to avoid prosecution in the infamous BALCO case. And when Marquez knocked Pacquiao unconscious in the sixth round of their bout, those pointed fingers transformed into flat-out accusations of chemical enhancement on the part of the veteran Mexican battler.
Brandon "Bam Bam" Rios, prior to his last fight, also began working with "Memo" Heredia and will presumably be doing so for the Pacquiao bout as well.
So, now, it's Pacquiao's turn to assume the Mayweather role and call for true random testing, based solely on rumor, speculation, and a feeling that one overwhelming performance from Marquez via Heredia's work is worth proper precaution.
And who can blame Manny?
After all, a fighter needs to protect his safety at all times. Entering the ring against someone who he feels may be using an illegal substance is both unwise and illogical. So, kudos to Pacquiao for finally coming around to Mayweather's point of view. It may be three years and one dead mega-fight too late, but a change in the right direction is always a good thing.
Still, random fits of testing here and there do very little for the overall issue of PEDs use in boxing. In an international sport with no centralized authority, the current form of PEDs busting is mere busy work with no real, authoritative bite.
Hopefully, this current case by case posturing can become a catalyst for real and consistent commission testing.
 
Wow, I can't believe this is a Yahoo article. :eek:

Most of the time, Yahoo's articles and comments read like Stormfront lite.
 
Boxing is so crappy now that the so called champs are trying there best not to fight a hard hitter so the can spend the fight throwing little tap jabs and winning on points. I quit watching boxing back when the judges robbed Lewis in the 1st Lewis - Holified fight and never looked back.
 
Boxing is so crappy now that the so called champs are trying there best not to fight a hard hitter so the can spend the fight throwing little tap jabs and winning on points. I quit watching boxing back when the judges robbed Lewis in the 1st Lewis - Holified fight and never looked back.
You've missed a lot of good fights.
 
Boxing is so crappy now that the so called champs are trying there best not to fight a hard hitter so the can spend the fight throwing little tap jabs and winning on points


So why not walk through those little taps and use that hard hitting power to knock the mofokr out ?

Oh thats right right the neanderthal approach never taught them such trivial boxing maneuvers like cutting off the ring.

Well maybe they should adjust their strategy ..Oppps dumb mofokrs don't know how to do that either...
 
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Where the bgol PAC nut jugglers? Niggas been missing since PAC got layed out
 
ZEFERINO!!!!!!...............................................where are you?????????????????
 
Can't blame him... sure he may have been juicing, but now the spotlight is on him he's probably chilled...

That being said, when you fight a Dude 5 times you know how hard he hits, etc. and no way in hell Marquez turned into George Foreman, in his LATE 30s, without some help!!

I would have done the same thing...

That being said, Karma is a bitch because who knows how many motherfuckers Manny has knocked out because of that shit!!
:lol:
 
Can't blame him... sure he may have been juicing, but now the spotlight is on him he's probably chilled...

That being said, when you fight a Dude 5 times you know how hard he hits, etc. and no way in hell Marquez turned into George Foreman, in his LATE 30s, without some help!!

I would have done the same thing...

That being said, Karma is a bitch because who knows how many motherfuckers Manny has knocked out because of that shit!!
:lol:

I don't know if you saw the last Marquez/Pacquiao 24/7, but JMM was training and bulking up before that training camp started. TBH, he was training like that WAY before the fight was signed.

Go to the 5 minute mark.



Dude wanted it more and it showed.
 
Pac is done, Mayweather made Pac who he is today and they never even fought. Thats the power of Mayweather but now Pac has missed his chance for a big pay check. Most folks wont even care that he has a fight coming up
 
Can't blame him... sure he may have been juicing, but now the spotlight is on him he's probably chilled...

That being said, when you fight a Dude 5 times you know how hard he hits, etc. and no way in hell Marquez turned into George Foreman, in his LATE 30s, without some help!!

I would have done the same thing...

That being said, Karma is a bitch because who knows how many motherfuckers Manny has knocked out because of that shit!!
:lol:

Pacquiao was put to sleep by nondescript opponents at lower weights. He got hit with a punch he didn't see running in with that wild shit. As a former amateur boxer, all the weight training and PEDS in the world aren't going to make you a puncher. Punchers are born, not made.

Hell, most people don't know this, but Marquez always had a higher KO percentage than Pacquiao. Marquez is probably one of the best combination punchers of all time. The only person that comes to mind that was more accurate with punches 2, 3, 4, and 5 in the last 25 years was Roy Jones.
 
Pac is done, Mayweather made Pac who he is today and they never even fought. Thats the power of Mayweather but now Pac has missed his chance for a big pay check. Most folks wont even care that he has a fight coming up
This isn't true, the thing about boxing is despite looking bad in a couple of fights all you need to do is look great in your last fight and you're back on the map. If Pacquiao beats Rios like he beat Hatton or Margarito then overnight Mayweather/Pacquiao again becomes the biggest potential fight in boxing. On the other hand if he doesn't look good, at this stage of the game it would pretty much kill any chance of this match up.
 
This isn't true, the thing about boxing is despite looking bad in a couple of fights all you need to do is look great in your last fight and you're back on the map. If Pacquiao beats Rios like he beat Hatton or Margarito then overnight Mayweather/Pacquiao again becomes the biggest potential fight in boxing. On the other hand if he doesn't look good, at this stage of the game it would pretty much kill any chance of this match up.
Problem is Pac's loses guarantee Mayweather will not (and should not) give him a 50/50 split on the purse and him demanding Rios undergoes the same PED testing he refused before will only make Mayweather even more resolute that he cheated before, despite suing him in court for slander. Pac fucked himself. Mayweather has no reason or incentive to compromise, now that he's continued his roll and Pac has been put to sleep. That mega fight is dead.
 
Problem is Pac's loses guarantee Mayweather will not (and should not) give him a 50/50 split on the purse and him demanding Rios undergoes the same PED testing he refused before will only make Mayweather even more resolute that he cheated before, despite suing him in court for slander. Pac fucked himself. Mayweather has no reason or incentive to compromise, now that he's continued his roll and Pac has been put to sleep. That mega fight is dead.
I disagree, Pacquiao is one spectacular win away from moving back to the top of the list.
 
I disagree, Pacquiao is one spectacular win away from moving back to the top of the list.
Did you not red what I just wrote, fam? I'm not talking about whatever hype the press of Pac fans might gin up if he does manage one spectacular win. I'm talking about how his loses and 180 on PED testing has obliterated his leverage in negotiations with Floyd Mayweather. He's no longer in any position to dictate stipulations to Mayweather as he once was. Besides, he would have to shoot Rios in the face with a snub nose .38 special to top the Marquez KO.
 
Boxing is so crappy now that the so called champs are trying there best not to fight a hard hitter so the can spend the fight throwing little tap jabs and winning on points. I quit watching boxing back when the judges robbed Lewis in the 1st Lewis - Holified fight and never looked back.

You sound like a heavyweight fan and as one myself I feel your pain

All these little mufuckas want the world when it's time to fight someone with some power

And I could give a fuck about watching jabbing for 12 rounds I think I'd rather watch the WNBA
 
Did you not red what I just wrote, fam? I'm not talking about whatever hype the press of Pac fans might gin up if he does manage one spectacular win. I'm talking about how his loses and 180 on PED testing has obliterated his leverage in negotiations with Floyd Mayweather. He's no longer in any position to dictate stipulations to Mayweather as he once was. Besides, he would have to shoot Rios in the face with a snub nose .38 special to top the Marquez KO.
The leverage would be Alvarez. Once again if Pacquiao looks good he would put himself at the top of the list for another potentially huge fight, Alvarez/Pacquiao. If Mayweather wants too much of a percentage from either fight they could threaten to fight each other leaving Mayweather out.
 
Can't blame him... sure he may have been juicing, but now the spotlight is on him he's probably chilled...

That being said, when you fight a Dude 5 times you know how hard he hits, etc. and no way in hell Marquez turned into George Foreman, in his LATE 30s, without some help!!

I would have done the same thing...

That being said, Karma is a bitch because who knows how many motherfuckers Manny has knocked out because of that shit!!
:lol:

Nah, Pacquiao said in the build up for the 4th fight that he noticed how big he was when he fought the 3rd time.


The leverage would be Alvarez. Once again if Pacquiao looks good he would put himself at the top of the list for another potentially huge fight, Alvarez/Pacquiao. If Mayweather wants too much of a percentage from either fight they could threaten to fight each other leaving Mayweather out.

Never thought of that. I could see Alvarez fighting Paciquao.
 
Nah, Pacquiao said in the build up for the 4th fight that he noticed how big he was when he fought the 3rd time.




Never thought of that. I could see Alvarez fighting Paciquao.

Manny barely wants to fight at 147 and Alvarez won't come down to 147. If they somehow can get on the same page and do it at 147 or a catch 150 then that tight can happen.
 
The leverage would be Alvarez. Once again if Pacquiao looks good he would put himself at the top of the list for another potentially huge fight, Alvarez/Pacquiao. If Mayweather wants too much of a percentage from either fight they could threaten to fight each other leaving Mayweather out.


:smh:


Manny barely wants to fight at 147 and Alvarez won't come down to 147. If they somehow can get on the same page and do it at 147 or a catch 150 then that tight can happen.

EXACTLY :lol:

You see how Manny was superloading the PBF fight...imagine how he'd do Canelo. If he's too big for May, he's damn sho too big for Manny.
 
You sound like a heavyweight fan and as one myself I feel your pain

All these little mufuckas want the world when it's time to fight someone with some power

And I could give a fuck about watching jabbing for 12 rounds I think I'd rather watch the WNBA

The boxing fans has been convinced that a boxer that taps and run is being technical but in reality they either have no punching power or a glass jaw. Do you remember when boxers use to actually be upset when they couldn't win a fight by knockout or if a nobody boxer made it thru the fight without getting dropped? I personally think Mayweather turned down that big payday bc he didn't want to go against Pac punching power
 
So why not walk through those little taps and use that hard hitting power to knock the mofokr out ?

Oh thats right right the neanderthal approach never taught them such trivial boxing maneuvers like cutting off the ring.

Well maybe they should adjust their strategy ..Oppps dumb mofokrs don't know how to do that either...

It's boxers that want to give the fans their money worth by giving them a real fight then you have boxers that come in the ring and spend most of the fight running which boxer would you pay to see? If a boxer is going to the ring expecting to win on points he's a bitch and people shouldn't watch his fights
 
aint this some shit!!!


I agree with a few statements made so far, karma is a bitch

and unless Pac can put together 2 good fights back to back quick or maintain a good public persona Floyd aint fighting him. Dude lost leverage and at this point he's too stubborn to settle for 40/60 or 35/65. . . So i too think the fight is off. If floyd had it his way he'd probably end the 6 fight deal with pac man. but as old as Pac man is and as much damage as he's taken, in the next 2 yrs who knows what kind of shape he will be in
 
The boxing fans has been convinced that a boxer that taps and run is being technical but in reality they either have no punching power or a glass jaw. Do you remember when boxers use to actually be upset when they couldn't win a fight by knockout or if a nobody boxer made it thru the fight without getting dropped? I personally think Mayweather turned down that big payday bc he didn't want to go against Pac punching power

you don't understand the 'sweet science'
 
aint this some shit!!!


I agree with a few statements made so far, karma is a bitch

and unless Pac can put together 2 good fights back to back quick or maintain a good public persona Floyd aint fighting him. Dude lost leverage and at this point he's too stubborn to settle for 40/60 or 35/65. . . So i too think the fight is off. If floyd had it his way he'd probably end the 6 fight deal with pac man. but as old as Pac man is and as much damage as he's taken, in the next 2 yrs who knows what kind of shape he will be in

Especially with the rumors that he's showing the early signs of Parkinson's.
 
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