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THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....

dirtyd said:
Because they've never embraced the move to Friday, Thursday was the perfect slot because everyone's home and that's when they had their best numbers. Friday is the night when everyone is our on dates or partying so they just gave up. SD from 02-04 was some of the best writing/wrestling i had seen WWE showcase, hell even 05-08 looks like greatness compared to the garbage fans are subjected to now. I don't know why they don't ask syfy if they can switch back to Thursdays since there's nothing on that night.
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From what I've heard, they're invested in Friday night. They feel that's their night. The audience is smaller but the competition is less since Thursday is a big night for tv in general. Impact shows that because let anything significant happen (NFL Draft, Thursday Night Football, NBA playoffs) and their audience takes a big dip.
With them still being the highest rated show on Syfy, the change in nights won't mean much but just having a better product and featuring some of the real main eventers would help attendance.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
From what I've heard, they're invested in Friday night. They feel that's their night. The audience is smaller but the competition is less since Thursday is a big night for tv in general. Impact shows that because let anything significant happen (NFL Draft, Thursday Night Football, NBA playoffs) and their audience takes a big dip.
With them still being the highest rated show on Syfy, the change in nights won't mean much but just having a better product and featuring some of the real main eventers would help attendance.
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But isn't that the problem? No competition is exactly why they're coasting along and getting high ratings, but they only have high ratings by syfy standards because their actual ratings are quite embarrassing. The Raw episode that went up against Impact's short Monday night stint was really fun to watch because they made sure to put on their best effort. Things won't change until they suffer significant ratings loss or Vince finally decides to quit acting like a bitch and go up against some actual competition.
 
dirtyd said:
But isn't that the problem? No competition is exactly why they're coasting along and getting high ratings, but they only have high ratings by syfy standards because their actual ratings are quite embarrassing. The Raw episode that went up against Impact's short Monday night stint was really fun to watch because they made sure to put on their best effort. Things won't change until they suffer significant ratings loss or Vince finally decides to quit acting like a bitch and go up against some actual competition.
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It was but that was because they were gearing up for Mania. Vince does not, and shouldn't, see TNA as competition. The competition would be everything else and the pattern has become instead of them doing better and smarter booking, they come up with excuses.

You're right and we've said it before: as long as Vince is in charge, nothing will change.
 
Just finished watching Main Event and while the Orton-Cesaro was as good as expected, they should do that six man with 3MB and Gabriel and the Usos to Smackdown and Raw, like WCW did with the Jung Dragons and 3 Count. It was good, everyone got to look good, and they don't have shit else for those guys to do. Hearing that crowd, they got themselves over just with their work. They could find their next Edge and Christian and Hardys with this match.
 
Wow.

Bret complained that HTM didn't hit him hard enough? He complained in his book that Ric Flair was too stiff (I know, Flair). If that's true, Bret is a funny dude.

But HTM can't knock any IC champ for anything. His promos weren't exactly memorable and if he wasn't working with Steamboat, Savage, and Jake Roberts his whole reign, it would have sucked even worse than it did.
He still owes Ted Dibiase because if he hadn't refused to drop the belt to Savage, Dibiase would have won WMIV and wouldn't still be on the "Best to Never Win a World Title" list.
 
sturmars said:
When is Stone Cold coming back? I just want to hear him say "WHAT"
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I think he saw Rock's latest run and decided to postpone his return, seeing Rock handcuffed in the pg era was painful at times so i doubt Austin wants to go through that as well.
 
damn he can't come and be GM again atleast? he dont have to wrestle just talk shit in the ring that's what he's famous for. im not asking for much :lol: :lol: :lol:




thats ALL i need him to do and im watching EVERY MONDAY :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
dirtyd said:
I think he saw Rock's latest run and decided to postpone his return, seeing Rock handcuffed in the pg era was painful at times so i doubt Austin wants to go through that as well.
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Not really. He's all banged up. Just like Rock, if he came back, he could do whatever he wanted to do. Austin wrestled more of his career under what could be considered PG booking and he's a pro and a vet, so he could adjust.
If his body holds up and he thinks he can perform up to what people (himself included) expect, he'll have one last match and like Taker, he'll work with Punk to keep him safe.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Not really. He's all banged up. Just like Rock, if he came back, he could do whatever he wanted to do. Austin wrestled more of his career under what could be considered PG booking and he's a pro and a vet, so he could adjust.
If his body holds up and he thinks he can perform up to what people (himself included) expect, he'll have one last match and like Taker, he'll work with Punk to keep him safe.
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Do you really think Rock was allowed to do whatever he wanted to do? It was clear that they wanted Cena to look like his equal, so even though Rock got some nice shots in he was never allowed the same leeway he got back in the AE. SCSA was far from pg since everything he did was more adult oriented, plus seeing him come back these last few times felt like he was shell of his self. I think Austin would struggle in the ring since he hasn't had a match since 03, even though he was more of a brawler his high energy and selling made his matches.
 
dirtyd said:
Do you really think Rock was allowed to do whatever he wanted to do? It was clear that they wanted Cena to look like his equal, so even though Rock got some nice shots in he was never allowed the same leeway he got back in the AE. SCSA was far from pg since everything he did was more adult oriented, plus seeing him come back these last few times felt like he was shell of his self. I think Austin would struggle in the ring since he hasn't had a match since 03, even though he was more of a brawler his high energy and selling made his matches.
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Rock got more free reign that anyone not in management (or Taker). He had to turn it down because it isn't 1998 anymore but he still may his pie jokes, called Cena a "bitch", and was more edgy than anyone's been on WWE tv since Edge stopped being called the Rated R Superstar.
Austin didn't look like a shell of himself, he was, that's why he stopped coming back.
After he turned face, there wasn't anything "adult" about Steve Austin. He still flipped mddle fingers and had beer baths but he turned it way down and even when he turned back, he did more comedy with Kurt Angle than actual hard core stuff. Austin could make it work in the AE just like he did in WCW and Texas and Tennessee. It's never been the rating, it's always been the Creative.
If he came back, Vince would get them out of the way, like he does for Rock, HHH, and Taker, and program him with Punk and let it go.
What happens in the ring might be a different story and that holds him back more than anything else.
 
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Just got around to watching Raw from Monday and I have a question about Ambrose's finisher. How in the fuck is that move allowed???? The way Kofi fell, I thought his neck was seriously fucked up. No way WWE lets him kept that move.

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Upgrade Dave said:
Rock got more free reign that anyone not in management (or Taker). He had to turn it down because it isn't 1998 anymore but he still may his pie jokes, called Cena a "bitch", and was more edgy than anyone's been on WWE tv since Edge stopped being called the Rated R Superstar.
Austin didn't look like a shell of himself, he was, that's why he stopped coming back.
After he turned face, there wasn't anything "adult" about Steve Austin. He still flipped mddle fingers and had beer baths but he turned it way down and even when he turned back, he did more comedy with Kurt Angle than actual hard core stuff. Austin could make it work in the AE just like he did in WCW and Texas and Tennessee. It's never been the rating, it's always been the Creative.
If he came back, Vince would get them out of the way, like he does for Rock, HHH, and Taker, and program him with Punk and let it go.
What happens in the ring might be a different story and that holds him back more than anything else.
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That's my point. You can't have Rock or Austin turn it down even a little because they were at their best when they were full throttle. When Austin became comedic he still showed signs of the paranoid champ that could snap at any moment, if they let him go 100% then i have no doubt he & Punk would work wonders (look at the wwe 13 sit down). Personally i want both Rock & Austin to stay away if Vince is content on having them play it safe. I know Cena's the bigger name but i liked Rock's feud with Punk more since it felt like there wasn't a concerted effort to protect him like there was with Cena, Austin has recently said he wants to face Punk but i have a feeling they would find a way to screw it up..
 
Simply Sickenin' said:
Just got around to watching Raw from Monday and I have a question about Ambrose's finisher. How in the fuck is that move allowed???? The way Kofi fall, I thought his neck was eriously fucked up. No way WWE lets him kept that move.

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It's not thay bad, Kofi just sold it well. His finisher he used before coming to WWE was the Midnight Special ( White Noise used by Sheamus ).

Look at number 2 and tell me how much safer the move he used on Kofi looked.

 
so ziggler out w/ a concussion.. he now has whats called"retrograde amnesia"..



- Dolph Ziggler was interviewed by WWE.com about his concussion suffered at the Smackdown tapings. Dolph said he doesn't remember Monday into Tuesday and was diagnosed with retrograde amnesia stemming from the incident.

- The company is working on alternative plans for the World Title match at Extreme Rules in case Ziggler isn't medically cleared.
 
Man this is my first post in this long ass thread just felt the need to post here

I haven't watched wrestling in over 10 years but y'all niggas really into it huh?

Might check it out :lol:

I see they got some of the same niggas wrestling :smh::lol:
 
This documentary along with the WWE one and Forever Hardcore give a really complete ECW history lesson without missing anything. All 3 are worth seeing if you want to know the full story of ECW. I guess the charm of this one is that it goes back in time and forward to 2012 for the Extreme Rising PPV.
 
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Posted by Steve Carrier on 05/13/2013 at 07:58 PM

As noted earlier, Dolph Ziggler is not at Raw and will not be able to work Extreme Rules due to his concussion suffered last week.

The company was working on a back-up plan for the possibility and will enact those plans this week.
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damn.... that means no AJ Lee sighting tonight
 
Deltronz said:
This documentary along with the WWE one and Forever Hardcore give a really complete ECW history lesson without missing anything. All 3 are worth seeing if you want to know the full story of ECW. I guess the charm of this one is that it goes back in time and forward to 2012 for the Extreme Rising PPV.
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RiverCity said:
havent watched. heard there original footage not owned by wwe
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Haven't seen it yet but it's getting good reviews.

dirtyd said:
That's my point. You can't have Rock or Austin turn it down even a little because they were at their best when they were full throttle. When Austin became comedic he still showed signs of the paranoid champ that could snap at any moment, if they let him go 100% then i have no doubt he & Punk would work wonders (look at the wwe 13 sit down). Personally i want both Rock & Austin to stay away if Vince is content on having them play it safe. I know Cena's the bigger name but i liked Rock's feud with Punk more since it felt like there wasn't a concerted effort to protect him like there was with Cena, Austin has recently said he wants to face Punk but i have a feeling they would find a way to screw it up..
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Neither of them were the same characters that got them over when they left. Again, both of them spent more time wrestling in PG booked territories than they did in the short lived, overrated "Attitude Era". Rock performed much better, on the mic at least, against Punk because Punk's better than Cena. Austin would do just as well with Punk.
If they have a good idea, they should go for it.

Too bad for Dolph. I didn't even think that kick looked that stiff but it hit him in the right spot and it was lights out.

I knew they wanted to test out Ambrose but damn, they have fallen in love with him. I think it's too soon to shoot any of the Shield off as singles but it's done.

Cody Rhodes is getting his hand slapped for speaking out on social media. He should be in the mix with Dolph and ADR but he's going to be jobbing to the Miz on a damn pre-show.:smh:

Mark Henry better win that strap match. He just pulled two trucks so he should just snatch Sheamus' ass around that ring like he's Rey Mysterio.

PTP won? Oh shit.

Keep Cena the hell away from the Shield. That might be the first time I haven't liked how they were booked (other than Ambrose doing a clean job to Taker).

The way Cole's talking about Cena being undefeated at Extreme Rules (is that a thing now?), I guess Ryback is going to win.
I like Josh Matthews (he got it Monday) doing a heel like thing on Cena Friday night.
 
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0. Yuji Nagata, Jushin Thunder Liger, Tiger Mask & Maximo (CMLL) vs. Tomohiro Ishii, YOSHI-HASHI, Jado & Gedo
1. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Title: Alex Shelley & KUSHIDA (c) vs. Rocky Romero & Alex Koslov
2. Bad Luck Fale Triumphant Return Match: Ryusuke Taguchi & Captain New Japan vs. Prince Devitt & Bad Luck Fale
3. IWGP Tag Team Title, 4 Way Match: Lance Archer & Davey Boy Smith Jr. (c) vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima vs. Toru Yano & Takashi Iizuka vs. Manabu Nakanishi & Strong Man
4. NEVER Openweight Title: Masato Tanaka (ZERO1) (c) vs. Tomoaki Honma
5. Special Singles Match: Togi Makabe vs. Yujiro Takahashi
6. Special Singles Match: Hirooki Goto vs. Katsuyori Shibata
7. Special Singles Match: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Karl Anderson
8. IWGP Intercontinental Title: Shinsuke Nakamura (c) vs. Shelton Benjamin
9. IWGP Heavyweight Title: Kazuchika Okada (c) vs. Minoru Suzuki


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