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Another Subway, Bus Fare Hike Likely in 2015

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Restoring the sections New York City’s transit system damaged by Hurricane Sandy could take up to five years, the MTA’s new chairman told the New York Daily News.

Additionally, MTA Chairman Thomas Prendergast said he believed that another fare hike in 2015 was likely.

The agency expects to spend billions to replace electrical and track components damaged by salt water during Sandy’s visit to the five boroughs.

Straphangers should expect closures and service changes as the MTA works to clean up after the superstorm during the next five years.

“What we need to do is figure out how we can mitigate those impacts, minimize the discomfort to the public, but if we fool ourselves and fool the public into thinking we don’t have to do it, there will come a point in time where the system will be out of service at a more impactful level,” Prendergast told the Daily News.
 
MTA to riders: Sandy damage still not fixed

New Chairman Thomas Predergast says we should get ready for a bumpy ride. And there'll likely be another fare hike soon.


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The new MTA chairman has a message for subway riders: It's going to be a bumpy ride.

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority faces an unprecedented amount of work replacing system components damaged by superstorm Sandy and bolstering the infrastructure against future storms. And that's going to mean an unprecedented amount of service changes over the next five years or so, Tom Prendergast, who was nominated MTA chairman Friday, told The Daily News.

The MTA will be able to maintain current levels of service on some lines but others will get hammered.

"What we need to do is figure out how we can mitigate those impacts, minimize the discomfort to the public, but if we fool ourselves and fool the public into thinking we don't have to do it, there will come a point in time where the system will be out of service at a more impactful level," Prendergast said. "We need to lay that all out for our riders."

Translation: It's going to get worse before it gets better. Electrical components and track equipment, which were soaked by salt water, are starting to fail at accelerated rates. They have to be replaced wholesale, and that means headaches like extended closures of corridors like the Montague Tunnel used by R trains running between Brooklyn and lower Manhattan.

There will be no learning curve for Prendergast. He's a transit veteran who has been president of the NYC Transit division since late 2009 and is former president of the Long Island Rail Road, one of the MTA's two commuter railroads.

Here's 10 things to know about, or expect from, Prendergast.

STABILITY: He'll be here for a while. Unlike the two previous chairmen, Prendergast won't leave after a year or two to run for political office or take a bigger-bucks private sector job overseas. To him this is THE JOB. His first stint at the MTA lasted 18 years. He has worked in public transit his entire career, including eight years as an engineering consultant to different authorities around the world.

"I'm generally in it for the long haul," he said. "You don't do public sector jobs for the money. You don't do it for the accolades. You do it because you believe in it. You do it for the sense of accomplishment, because you're working with good people, and because you're providing a public service."

FARES: Avoiding another fare hike in 2015 is highly unlikely. As it is, the current four-year financial plan requires the MTA to find another $500 million worth of annual savings. It has slashed approximately $700 million in the last three years.
"At the end of the day, there isn't a transit system in the nation that operates in the black," Prendergast said. "They all have a deficit that has to be made up with revenues but you try and get that deficit as small as possible. It's our job to do what we can to keep the need for additional revenues as small as possible."

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PLATFORM DOORS: The MTA will explore protective screens to reduce the number of people hit by trains but the more viable option, Prendergast believes, is an "intrusion detection" system that gives an approaching motorman an alert when someone is on the tracks ahead. You can't do much for a person who intentionally jumps in front of a train at the last minute. But an alert system, possibly using sensors, could save people who stumble and fall off platforms. Last year, 141 people were hit by subway trains.



"It's a problem everywhere," Prendergast said of riders being struck by subway trains. "It's not just New York. It's something we can't just dismiss. We have to deal with it."

TOKEN BOOTH CLERKS: Their thinned ranks won't be bolstered but there could be a return of customer service agents - transit workers posted outside booths who helped the public with MetroCard vending machines and with directions. Generally, Prendergast believes in increasing efficiency with technology and redeploying workers into new roles. That could mean more "platform conductors" who do crowd control in dangerously overcrowded stations.

CONDUCTORS: Prendergast wants to expand OPTO - one person train operation - in which the motorman opens and closes doors, makes announces and operates the train. It is in use on the G and M lines on weekends and on small shuttles. So far, the transit workers union has successfully blocked management attempts to take conductors off other lines with legal challenges. But the goal of reducing train crews, when and where ridership is relatively light, will be pursued.

"There are some lines that are more conducive to one person train operation than others," Prendergast said. "There are some that are more conducive to OPTO only at certain times of the day, and there are some lines where you may never use OPTO. It's not always about savings. It may be the savings are reinvested in other parts of the system. So, if for argument’s sake, you save (a certain number of conductor positions) and put them on platforms that are extremely crowded, and you have fewer people falling to the tracks, that's a better utility of resources."

ROBOTRAIN: It needs to be accelerated. Only one line - the L - has communication-based train control. It's being built on the No. 7 line. The system is based on a much more sophisticated signal and communications network with computers essentially driving trains. Motormen monitor the controls and can take over if there's a glitch. Trains can run more closely together, which means increased service and less crowding. It's also safer, Prendergast says, because speed is continuously regulated by the computers, which will slow a train down automatically if it’s going too fast.

COUNTDOWN CLOCKS: Now on the numbered lines, and the L line, as a spinoff of a train-tracking system that took many years - and a lot of money - to complete. The MTA is developing a strategy to provide next-train information to the lettered lines quicker and more cheaply. The goal is to have a significant number of lines wired-up in three to five years, Prendergast said.

MAYORAL CONTROL of the MTA: Not a big fan of the idea proposed last week by Council Speaker Christine Quinn, a mayoral candidate. The majority of funding comes from the state and the current set-up - the mayor gets four appointments while a majority of the board is appointed by the governor and surrounding counties - is best for a regional system. "If you're going to take the responsibility, you have to have the funding to go along with it," Prendergast said.

SANDY: Perhaps the biggest challenge. The MTA has to do $4.7 billion worth of repairs and component replacement work. It also plans another $4.1 billion in projects to barricade the system against future flooding, and federal rules requiring projects be done in just a handful of years. That's on top of the regular maintenance and construction projects that cause dozens of service changes on any given weekend.

THE JOB: Widely praised for orchestrating the resumption of subway service quicker than anticipated after Sandy, Prendergast wants it known that as chairman he has to think of the future. “I have to bring the strategic vision, the strategic approach,” he said. “That's what this job is all about. I know that's my number one charge, my number one responsibility.”

Stay tuned.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/sandy-damange-mta-issue-article-1.1316484?pgno=1#ixzz2QdgY0u9A
 
The MTA is raping our pockets out here. They pull in way too much money to have to be hitting our pockets like this. People are just going to have difficulty going to work if something doesn't change. Even though city bus and train fares are still relatively low when compared to some other countries transit systems, the low income people who are already struggling are suffering for just trying to get to work.

I take a commuter train to the office, so I expect it to be significantly more expensive to travel. My monthly ticket is over $200. My mother law, who comes from even further than I do is close to $400. The fares are ridiculous.
 
The MTA is raping our pockets out here. They pull in way too much money to have to be hitting our pockets like this. People are just going to have difficulty going to work if something doesn't change. Even though city bus and train fares are still relatively low when compared to some other countries transit systems, the low income people who are already struggling are suffering for just trying to get to work.

I take a commuter train to the office, so I expect it to be significantly more expensive to travel. My monthly ticket is over $200. My mother law, who comes from even further than I do is close to $400. The fares are ridiculous.

The fact that one of these damn media outlets have never done an exhaustive investigative report about the mismanagement of funds by the MTA over DECADES is a joke.

Remember back in the day when people were much more aggressive and vocal (no real internet) that "suddenly" they would find this huge surplus of funds?

I really wonder (it would NEVER happen) but damn if people were really able to organize some type of MTA boycott even for just a day or maybe just the return trip home or even just an entire hour...

what would the effect be?
 
The main problem with MTA right is redundant positions in the senior levels, raising healthcare (especially many of those transit workers are obese), overruns in MTA projects, etc. I remember someone telling me that the MTA should be charging at least $6.00 per ride or charge by the distance like other transit systems to just cover cost.
 
The MTA is raping our pockets out here. They pull in way too much money to have to be hitting our pockets like this. People are just going to have difficulty going to work if something doesn't change. Even though city bus and train fares are still relatively low when compared to some other countries transit systems, the low income people who are already struggling are suffering for just trying to get to work.

I take a commuter train to the office, so I expect it to be significantly more expensive to travel. My monthly ticket is over $200. My mother law, who comes from even further than I do is close to $400. The fares are ridiculous.



Damn fam, thats a monthly car payment!

:smh::smh::smh:
 
MTA's 'Green Fee' Raises More Than Expected

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Here's a rare opportunity for New York City's transit authority: a chance to put their money where their mouth is.

At a recent City Council hearing, the MTA revealed that their $1 MetroCard "Green Fee," which began in March, has brought in more money than expected in its first month.

Because more riders reportedly just knuckled under and paid the extra dollar for a new card, rather than reusing their old ones, the MTA has seen more green than expected in the first month of returns.

So what to do with all them extra ducats, especially if the trend continues? This is a loaded question for an agency that infamously fritters away every spare dime, despite repeated fare increases.

One group, the Straphangers Campaign, believes any surplus funding from the MTA's Green Fee should be used to clean up subway stations, and wrote a letter to acting MTA head Thomas Prendergast saying so.

"One of the main points of the green fee was to create an incentive for riders to reduce litter by reusing their MetroCards," wrote Gene Russianoff, of the Straphangers Campaign. "That's why the Straphangers Campaign supported it, despite its widespread unpopularity among riders. It makes sense to direct any surplus funds to station cleaning."

In an interview Tuesday, Russianoff said that expecting commuters to change their behavior in just a month is unrealistic — especially since New Yorkers are famous for sloughing off their garbage, particularly in the subways.

"We're just not a recycling city. It's totally irrational behavior to throw away your MetroCard and get a new one, but people do that," he said.

If the trend keeps up — and the MTA is taking a wait-and-see approach — Russianoff said any surplus over the estimated $20 million that the transit giant accrues should be used to clean up the city's famously filthy subway stations.

"There's the possibility, if not the promise, of a surplus at the end of the rainbow, and we'd like it to be used it to clean the stations," Russianoff said. "Of course it's possible it won't be the trend. Next year they may say they have a better estimate."

* you already KNOW this surplus is gonna DISAPPEAR right quick...:hmm:
 
put it in proper perspective.

if you drove to work everyday without paying for parking, you would pay $100 a week minimum for gas.
add parking and your paying out $800 a month or more.

$200 a month is much cheaper.



The MTA is raping our pockets out here. They pull in way too much money to have to be hitting our pockets like this. People are just going to have difficulty going to work if something doesn't change. Even though city bus and train fares are still relatively low when compared to some other countries transit systems, the low income people who are already struggling are suffering for just trying to get to work.

I take a commuter train to the office, so I expect it to be significantly more expensive to travel. My monthly ticket is over $200. My mother law, who comes from even further than I do is close to $400. The fares are ridiculous.
 
The fact that one of these damn media outlets have never done an exhaustive investigative report about the mismanagement of funds by the MTA over DECADES is a joke.

Remember back in the day when people were much more aggressive and vocal (no real internet) that "suddenly" they would find this huge surplus of funds?

I really wonder (it would NEVER happen) but damn if people were really able to organize some type of MTA boycott even for just a day or maybe just the return trip home or even just an entire hour...

what would the effect be?
co-sign. what even sad is the service still sucks and there still stations with no booth clerk.

i think ninjas is using the fare hike for their own personal expenses. cause i dont understand how the service is still the same with all these "improvements". ninjas use the money to upgrade their mansions or g5 airplanes.:smh::smh:
 
co-sign. what even sad is the service still sucks and there still stations with no booth clerk.

i think ninjas is using the fare hike for their own personal expenses. cause i dont understand how the service is still the same with all these "improvements". ninjas use the money to upgrade their mansions or g5 airplanes.:smh::smh:

they JUST started taking back free monthly metrocards for heads of the MTA and their families.

And wasn't even totally against that but its the fact that they are allowed to pretty much operate with little or no oversight.

They are in such a position of power that I think it is imperative that they FORCED to include community groups or something on the board.

Regular Audits and All of the audits should be independent and public.

They KNOW they can never REALLY be a strike especially by riders...they JUST started adding Wi-fi in stations, and most stops have no token booths anymore.

The stations are dirty and very few patrolman are around.

No one is saying that it should be free or that it isnt a bargain in the grand scheme but the service is substandard. And WHERE are the funds going???
 
Lotta niggas use the train,...only time i use the train is when i need to get to the airport or just visiting for a concert or event.
 
Remember how the MTA discovered the G train has a lot problems and then promised to fix them? They still will, but we’re all going to pay for it through fare hikes.
NY1 reports the MTA is planning to raise fares in 2015 and 2017 to maintain service and pay health care and pension costs. There’s no mention of how much they’re increasing, but fares have gone up 83% in the past ten years
— that’s on par with inflation in Belarus. At this rate, every single Citi Bike will be in use at every single moment of the day and we’ll all have to buy cars just to save some dough.

“We need to have have to have regular, predictable fare and toll increases,” says MTA CFO Robert Foran.
We all crave meaning and regularity in this random, wind-tossed chain of seemingly unrelated events called life. It’s human nature to try to assign meaning and structure to the cruel chaos that surrounds us. We appreciate your existential search for meaning in a meaningless universe, Mr. Foran, but don’t force your belief system on us and burden the everyday rider with more fare hikes. You want regularity? Eat more fiber.
 
Remember how the MTA discovered the G train has a lot problems and then promised to fix them? They still will, but we’re all going to pay for it through fare hikes.
NY1 reports the MTA is planning to raise fares in 2015 and 2017 to maintain service and pay health care and pension costs. There’s no mention of how much they’re increasing, but fares have gone up 83% in the past ten years
— that’s on par with inflation in Belarus. At this rate, every single Citi Bike will be in use at every single moment of the day and we’ll all have to buy cars just to save some dough.

“We need to have have to have regular, predictable fare and toll increases,” says MTA CFO Robert Foran.
We all crave meaning and regularity in this random, wind-tossed chain of seemingly unrelated events called life. It’s human nature to try to assign meaning and structure to the cruel chaos that surrounds us. We appreciate your existential search for meaning in a meaningless universe, Mr. Foran, but don’t force your belief system on us and burden the everyday rider with more fare hikes. You want regularity? Eat more fiber.


I was about to post this, just like most of the other large unions with good benefits, a HUGE percentage of their budget goes to retirees in the form of benefits and more importantly, health benefits, keep in mind that people are living longer, and medical expenses are only going UP!!!
 
I was about to post this, just like most of the other large unions with good benefits, a HUGE percentage of their budget goes to retirees in the form of benefits and more importantly, health benefits, keep in mind that people are living longer, and medical expenses are only going UP!!!

What is really unfortunate is the the FACE of the MTA...

particularly the dwindling token booth clerks have been so rude and unhelpful

that makes riders angry and frustrated.

Poor scheduling and dirty train cars dont help either.

And honestly MOST of the MTA employees I know are smart, very hard working and helpful.

But the few bad ones...
 
The main problem with MTA right is redundant positions in the senior levels, raising healthcare (especially many of those transit workers are obese), overruns in MTA projects, etc. I remember someone telling me that the MTA should be charging at least $6.00 per ride or charge by the distance like other transit systems to just cover cost.

Health care costs are fully spread out across the board, besides rising medication costs, there are numerous operations which include knee replacements, hip replacements, etc., no matter how healthy you are now, ALL of our bodies will break down over time, and since we live longer the associated health costs will rise accordingly, this is why the Repubs are starting to push on dialogue that involves docs making "end of life" decisions, should someone that's 75-80 years old be put on life support for 7 years, peeps don't want to think about it but this type of ish is expensive!
 
What is really unfortunate is the the FACE of the MTA...

particularly the dwindling token booth clerks have been so rude and unhelpful

that makes riders angry and frustrated.

Poor scheduling and dirty train cars dont help either.

And honestly MOST of the MTA employees I know are smart, very hard working and helpful.

But the few bad ones...

They are, but as with ANY huge bureaucracy NOBODY wants to rock the boat, the rank & file know that there are better ways to do a bunch of stuff, but the peeps that suggested it in the past were either disciplined, or transferred away, shit is just STUPID!!!

My Dad is retired MTA, the stories he's told me would fuck your head up in terms waste & redundancy, 4 real!!!:smh:
 
* go read the thread and see how many members called this one exactly...:smh:


MTA Discovers $1.9 Billion Surplus In Its Budget, Still Planning on Hiking Fares

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This past Friday the MTA announced that it had uncovered a nearly $2 billion surplus in its operating budget. How about those scheduled fare hikes in 2015 and 2017? Despite the discovery of the surplus, MTA officials plan to go ahead with the fare hikes anyway.

In his report released Friday, New York State Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli called the MTA's financial situation "much improved," finding that the extra $1.9 billion in savings coming over the next four means the transit agency has largely emerged from Recession-era shortfalls.

The agency's audit found that lower contributions to pension funds, lower energy costs, savings on health insurance, and debt service were responsible for the extra money in its offers, according to CBS New York.

Yet the MTA still plans on instituting fare hikes over the next four years, with current projections putting a single ride fare at $3.00 by 2017, citing the volatility of tax revenue.

"They are revenues that we aren't sure we are going to repeat. Some big tax collections and things like that," MTA spokesman Adam Lisberg told the New York Post.

DiNapoli's analysis is openly skeptical of the MTA's position, pointing to fare hikes since 2007 that far outpace the inflation rate. "In recent years, the MTA has placed less emphasis on new cost-reduction initiatives even as it continues to press for large fare and toll increases," reads one section of the report.

One especially galling example: between 2007 and 2013, the price of the 30-day MetroCard increased 47 percent, three times the inflation rate during that period.

The report lists the various capital improvement project the MTA has planned over the coming decade, including the Second Avenue Subway and upgrades to the existing system, expenses covered in part by fare hikes.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2013/09/mta_fare_hikes_surplus.php
 
They're pricing out 'REAGULAR' folks and have been doing it for YEARS now.

There REALLY needs to be a mass scale protest to these relentless LEECHES.

I don't commute so much anymore because driving has begun to equalize the cost for me. But I'd DEFINITELY show up and protest ANYTHING RESEMBLING a fare hike.

Matter of FACT, they need to be talking about a fare REDUCTION. But that won't happen because the you all know, just like I do that this REVENUE is nothing more than GRAFT, lining these LEECHES pockets. And they aint givin' no types of fucks.


JG
 
They're pricing out 'REAGULAR' folks and have been doing it for YEARS now.

There REALLY needs to be a mass scale protest to these relentless LEECHES.

I don't commute so much anymore because driving has begun to equalize the cost for me. But I'd DEFINITELY show up and protest ANYTHING RESEMBLING a fare hike.

Matter of FACT, they need to be talking about a fare REDUCTION. But that won't happen because the you all know, just like I do that this REVENUE is nothing more than GRAFT, lining these LEECHES pockets. And they aint givin' no types of fucks.


JG

John they KNOW we will never do it that is why they are able to do this...

People don't WANT to be active...if groups starting going after local officials TRUST this CONSTANT "found money" fiasco would be dealt with...
 
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