i haven't been able to bring myself to listen yet but every quote i keep seein y'all make is+
i hope you makin the bolded part up
Sadly no

http://m.aol.com/music/blog/theboombox/2013/04/08/brad-paisley-ll-cool-j-accidental-racist/
i haven't been able to bring myself to listen yet but every quote i keep seein y'all make is+
i hope you makin the bolded part up
If you dont get it well I dont want to be like so many on the board and accuse you of being a CAC![]()
hole up. making a song doesn't have sheit to do with 'sellin out' if u believe in the message and are the person recording it. LL ain't changed in that he always made songs w/mass appeal that had a broad message. you may not LIKE the song but that ain't got sheit to do with 'sellin out'.
sheit, i know LL puts his money where his mouth is far as assisting black folks and the causes that are important to us goes......
Did you LISTEN to his lyrics? WORST thing I EVER heard. Seriously. I dropped the AOL link becausee it has the lyrics written out. Have a look and THEN come back again![]()
Bro, if you can listen to those submissive lyrics and that entire apologetic, begging for inclusion, self pitying "im so misunderstood" bullshit LL was spouting and NOT consider it selling out then you are either deaf or full of shit. That song is an abomination.i did listen to the song. would i ever play it in my ride or on my ipod in the gym? heck no! that song was not hot!![]()
but making a whack song isn't the same as being a 'sellout' cause you recorded it. actions you take for and with other black folks is the ruler that should measure whether or not someone is down.
Bro, if you can listen to those submissive lyrics and that entire apologetic, begging for inclusion, self pitying "im so misunderstood" bullshit LL was spouting and NOT consider it selling out then you are either deaf or full of shit. That song is an abomination.
Do you know why they call it "selling out"? Because the implication is that there is a change in behavior or practice that can be interpreted as a person going against his self interest, prior beliefs, or displaying a willingness to compromise himself or what he does or should stand for. That being the case, a persons history or prior actions does NOT prevent one or ones actions from being labeled as "sellout". In fact, it only cements it as a possibility. LLs alleged track record of helping blacks in no way negates or excuses the level of shame associated with those lyrics and the execution of that song. That shit was atrocious and very offensive.i know for a fact that LL has put his money where his mouth is in terms of financially backing small black biz owners. helps young black kids from low income areas with educational needs and other sheit like that.
if u don't get that recording a song about reconciliation w/some western artist is NOT sellin out black folks then you have absolutely no idea of what 'selling out' even means. sellin out is changing the way you are so that WHITE FOLKS will like you. newsflash: white folks been liking cool j dayum near 30 years -- his first joint came out in 1985 -- so u thinking that he recorded that song just so white folks will like him 'better' is pretty ridiculous
Do you know why they call it "selling out"? Because the implication is that there is a change in behavior or practice that can be interpreted as a person going against his self interest, prior beliefs, or displaying a willingness to compromise himself or what he does or should stand for. That being the case, a persons history or prior actions does NOT prevent one or ones actions from being labeled as "sellout". In fact, it only cements it as a possibility. LLs alleged track record of helping blacks in no way negates or excuses the level of shame associated with those lyrics and the execution of that song. That shit was atrocious and very offensive.
That song was less about reconciliation and more about begging for acceptance while catering to steretypes. Muthafucka rapping about doo rags and offering forgiveness for slavery in exchange for not being criticized or profiled for wearing gold chains. GTFOHWTBSN!
Do you know why they call it "selling out"? Because the implication is that there is a change in behavior or practice that can be interpreted as a person going against his self interest, prior beliefs, or displaying a willingness to compromise himself or what he does or should stand for. That being the case, a persons history or prior actions does NOT prevent one or ones actions from being labeled as "sellout". In fact, it only cements it as a possibility. LLs alleged track record of helping blacks in no way negates or excuses the level of shame associated with those lyrics and the execution of that song. That shit was atrocious and very offensive.
That song was less about reconciliation and more about begging for acceptance while catering to steretypes. Muthafucka rapping about doo rags and offering forgiveness for slavery in exchange for not being criticized or profiled for wearing gold chains. GTFOHWTBSN!
Songs an immediate fail as he starts the song with "Dear Mr. White man".
"If you dont judge my gold chain, I'll forget the iron chains"
... WHAT THEE FUCK!!???
Wow.
This has to be a joke. Has to be. Geesus Crice LL.![]()
u totally misapplied the definition of 'sellout' in this case. has LL changed his behavior in order to be accepted by whites? nope. are his words in the song a reflection of statements he's made in the past in magazine articles and tv interviews when asked about similar topics? yep. dude ain't changed his tune at all.
so now you're gonna either have to allege that cool j has been an undercover 'sellout' for over 20 years or just accept that he sees solutions to racial problems differently than you. but somebody that puts finances and work in to help lift the black community isn't a 'sellout'. in fact, it's the last thing a sellout would do
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Let's minimize the atrocities that were committed so they can feel comfortable with it.
Is that your logic?
i don't believe 80's or 90's LL would make this song.
If you dont get it well I dont want to be like so many on the board and accuse you of being a CAC![]()
LL ain't never said shit like he said in the lyrics of this damn song.if u check out the interviews he did back in 1992 around the time he performed at the clinton inauguration, a lot of the quotes he gave pretty much mirror the lyrics he kicked in that joint he recorded with the western artist. you don't have to agree with what dude is saying at all. sheit, i know i disagree with some of the lyrics he kicked in that song. but that's a far cry from labeling cool j a 'sellout' cause i disagree with his point of view in terms of rectifying race relations.
sheit, i know bgolers better have done MORE work lifting up and helping to improve the black community through volunteering and financially backing small black owned businesses before downing somebody else who does while labeling them a 'sellout'. cause if a 'sellout' actually does MORE to help black folks in their daily lives than you do, what does that make YOU![]()
if u check out the interviews he did back in 1992 around the time he performed at the clinton inauguration, a lot of the quotes he gave pretty much mirror the lyrics he kicked in that joint he recorded with the western artist. you don't have to agree with what dude is saying at all. sheit, i know i disagree with some of the lyrics he kicked in that song. but that's a far cry from labeling cool j a 'sellout' cause i disagree with his point of view in terms of rectifying race relations.
sheit, i know bgolers better have done MORE work lifting up and helping to improve the black community through volunteering and financially backing small black owned businesses before downing somebody else who does while labeling them a 'sellout'. cause if a 'sellout' actually does MORE to help black folks in their daily lives than you do, what does that make YOU![]()
Do y'all wanna reopen that jay-z vs LL conversation now
I would expect this from LL but NOT from no Chuck Dee..
I aint mad at him tho he is only tryin to build his fan base...
probably thinking about touring soon...
LL ain't never said shit like he said in the lyrics of this damn song.
you're trying to make his overall message of togetherness cancel out the actual dumb ass sentences this nigga spoke. why i don't know.
Now, on the record, I can't stand country music.
However, history says that Robert E. Lee was against slavery, but couldn't go against his state.
I'm not here to debate if the history lessons I've learn is right, or wrong. I'm just here stating that fact that I've learned.
uh....actually he did. while not verbatim the overall message was the same.
and i already spoke on not agreeing with some of the lyrics in the song. but you can't take several bars from a whack country western song then use them to claim that the man is a 'sellout'.
take for example that gold chain line. when i heard that sheit i was likecause it just rubbed me the wrong way. it's like how can u even say that? but if u put THAT LINE against the overriding message of the ENTIRE song then it fits with what the country dude was singing when he said 'neither one of us can rewrite history'. both dudes are saying basically that we don't know each other, don't really trust each other, but let's put away preconceived notions and work on the future and not dwell on the past. now imo, u don't need to ask someone to ignore america's history on slavery in order to do that, but then again he ain't asking ME to do sheit. he's saying what HE will do
Now, on the record, I can't stand country music.
However, history says that Robert E. Lee was against slavery, but couldn't go against his state.
I'm not here to debate if the history lessons I've learn is right, or wrong. I'm just here stating that fact that I've learned.
I'm not even mad at LL. Hell, go get that country money. It is what it is....
man i know you sweatin like a diabetic hog dancing around over there. the verbatim part is exactly what i mean and since you're so sure he said something like this before i welcome you to point me to it.uh....actually he did. while not verbatim the overall message was the same.
yes the fuck he could go against it if he actually believed it was wrong
his hands weren't fucking tied![]()
There is no forgetting the past because the "past" is still in effect in the present and theres a whole lot of reparations to be paid on top of it.
man i know you sweatin like a diabetic hog dancing around over there. the verbatim part is exactly what i mean and since you're so sure he said something like this before i welcome you to point me to it.
you gon post some vague ass shit and try to connect the dots on some philosophical shit and it's gon get dikembe'd.
the coonin don't stop at politics.
man i know you sweatin like a diabetic hog dancing around over there. the verbatim part is exactly what i mean and since you're so sure he said something like this before i welcome you to point me to it.
you gon post some vague ass shit and try to connect the dots on some philosophical shit and it's gon get dikembe'd.