Man that WM 29 press conference today was brutal, HHH did his "Are You Ready" bit and was met with complete silence:lol: Every wrestler got minimal to no reaction and you could tell it Vince did this on purpose so we wouldn't get another great presser like the WM 27 one. I like it better when they just open it up to the fans and let them express themselves, but since Cena got booed out the building a couple of years ago they've been more controlled.
 
I read that Austin would pick and choose his opponents despite what Creative said at the time. I read that they wanted Billy Gunn pushed and Austin said no, same with Brock, and that whole Hogan thing that went down when Austin no showed for both those Raws in 2 months. Austin did his fair share of holding niggas back.

Taker didn't really hold people back but he was known to no sell certain wrestlers when he wasn't getting his way.

But like I stated to you, I wasn't there so it could be a fabrication.

Austin completely killed Jeff Jarrett's heel run by refusing to work with him. Jarrett was so hot and it just looked like a natural he would go after Austin but he didn't and he ended up leaving for WCW.
In the grand scheme, it worked out because all of that leads to the creation of TNA and having another significant wrestling company.

The only names that I've heard in relation to Austin were Marc Mero who Austin refused to wrestle because a week before on Raw Mero had gotten powerbombed by Sable. So for Austin it made no sense to wrestle or feud with a guy who they just buried that badly. And I heard that he refused to feud with Jarrett for some reason.

As for Brock he refused to job to him on Raw with no buildup which he was right about. That would have generated money and the company wanted to give it away for free with not even a weeks worth of buildup.

We'll never know even the half of what happened but he, Sting and Rock get less criticism than other main event guys in terms of backstage politics
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He handled it wrong but he was right.
Those guys are the guys with the best reps among their generation.
Sting had a rep of being a prima donna when he was younger but I've never heard anyone say he didn't do business, even if he had to look bad. In fact, him and Ric Flair are two guys that if they played politics a little better wouldn't have had half the shit pulled on them over the years that happened.
Nope. Taker's record is spotless & he actually mentors a lot of the younger talent, the Hardy Boyz & Lita always talked about Taker giving them advice whenever they asked for it.

Austin basically paid Jarrett back for how shitty Jarrett treated him in the past so i have no problem with that, my issue with Austin was the whole walking out deal because he could've just said injuries were forcing him to quit and people would've been fine with that. As for Rock & Sting they're just examples of guys who knew they were too popular for politics, plus they were just smarter than everyone else when it came to the business.

Taker's record is not spotless. He was the reason the DDP feud sucked so bad because he refused to sell the Diamond Cutter and not only didn't put DDP over, didn't even let him get much in in their singles or tag matches.
I have a big problem with the way he did Jarrett because Jeff never did anything to him. He was mad because he was starving working for Jerry Jarrett, Jeff's dad. But fuck, that's the business for new guys in small territories.
Selfish moves like that and Taker burying DDP aren't just bad business, they're bad for business. Both of those feuds, DDP vs Taker and Austin/Jarrett would have been big moneymakers but they killed them before they could get going and robbed fans of all four of great matches and promos.



Raw's structure was the main problem because everyone seemed out of place, how do you not have Rock & Cena close the show leading into the biggest ppv of the year?:confused:

Vince has been exposed as not really knowing what he's doing because Drew could've been a great heel, Kofi could've been a ME by now, the PTP'ers could've been a solid & enjoyable team and Cena could've had a monster heel run.

Now as for the 4 horsemen that group & the Freebirds are a great example of heel 101, the Von Erichs would've have never been as popular as they were if it weren't for Michael Hayes & the Horsemen were literally causing riots:lol:


All true. I don't think Cena needs a big heel run but he could be a better face than he is. He needs a Freebirds or a Horsemen to bounce off of but every time they get some heels like they, he kills them (Nexxus, Awesome Truth).
The only person who's gotten any real heat on him is the Rock and that's not good enough for one match a year.
Living Colour is gonna play CM Punk live to the ring (and posibly from the ring) for WM :cool:

That's going to be great.

I still say WrestleMania is looking to be the weakest ppv/ippv of the weekend.
 
Taker's record is not spotless. He was the reason the DDP feud sucked so bad because he refused to sell the Diamond Cutter and not only didn't put DDP over, didn't even let him get much in in their singles or tag matches.
I have a big problem with the way he did Jarrett because Jeff never did anything to him. He was mad because he was starving working for Jerry Jarrett, Jeff's dad. But fuck, that's the business for new guys in small territories.
Selfish moves like that and Taker burying DDP aren't just bad business, they're bad for business. Both of those feuds, DDP vs Taker and Austin/Jarrett would have been big moneymakers but they killed them before they could get going and robbed fans of all four of great matches and promos.

As far as i know it's believed DDP pissed some people off behind the scenes and DDP was seen as a dramatic person in the WCW locker room. DDP isn't clean himself either but i don't think he's done anything outrageous. I think the WWE basically humbled him to show him he wasn't as big as he thought he was in WCW.

Now as for Austin/Jarrett when the owners son tells you to suck it up and pay dues while you know you just got screwed on pay it really hits a nerve. Jarrett paid for that comment years later and it just goes to show that you have to be careful how you treat people. Jarrett might also have the "sins of the father" going against him, because can you imagine how many people Jerry has stiffed? Honestly idc about Austin refusing to work with Jarrett because it's not like it hurt the company, hell Jarrett's biggest success is arguably his feud with Chyna.


I still say WrestleMania is looking to be the weakest ppv/ippv of the weekend.

But it's where all eyes will be.
 
As far as i know it's believed DDP pissed some people off behind the scenes and DDP was seen as a dramatic person in the WCW locker room. DDP isn't clean himself either but i don't think he's done anything outrageous. I think the WWE basically humbled him to show him he wasn't as big as he thought he was in WCW.

Even if that was their thinking, that's ridiculous. He was as big as he thought in WCW. They could have made him just as big in the WWF but chose not to.
Page wasn't Buff, he never had that diva persona. He was the guy who told Bischoff to put him in with Benoit for the US title to help Benoit.
And it's just like with Cena now, Taker's been in the business long enough to know bullshit when he sees it and if he wasn't holding Page down (like I've always seen it reported), he didn't have to bury him.

Now as for Austin/Jarrett when the owners son tells you to suck it up and pay dues while you know you just got screwed on pay it really hits a nerve. Jarrett paid for that comment years later and it just goes to show that you have to be careful how you treat people. Jarrett might also have the "sins of the father" going against him, because can you imagine how many people Jerry has stiffed? Honestly idc about Austin refusing to work with Jarrett because it's not like it hurt the company, hell Jarrett's biggest success is arguably his feud with Chyna.

Austin took that like a bitch. Yeah, suck it up. He wasn't the only guy starving Tennessee at the time. All the territories were dying and he was a no better than a mid card guy. Promoters screwing talent wasn't exclusive to Steve Austin or Jerry Jarrett.
But that goes back to Vince buckling to his top guy again, same as he did for Shawn and HHH and it was bad for business. Jeff's top feud was with Chyna because he didn't get Austin. When you have a heel that hot, you rob your company and your fans of seeing your top babyface kick his ass and everyone knows Austin and Jarrett could have had great matches and it was only a matter of time before Debra got the el-kabong




But it's where all eyes will be.

Yeah but I might pay for a couple and get a download of Mania.


Watchin Impact last night and that was an entertaining show. Joey Ryan was living most male (and some female) fans dream in reffing that KO match.

Line of the week: Devon asking Ray if he would give him the "hot tag" with Brooke.
 
Even if that was their thinking, that's ridiculous. He was as big as he thought in WCW. They could have made him just as big in the WWF but chose not to.
Page wasn't Buff, he never had that diva persona. He was the guy who told Bischoff to put him in with Benoit for the US title to help Benoit.
And it's just like with Cena now, Taker's been in the business long enough to know bullshit when he sees it and if he wasn't holding Page down (like I've always seen it reported), he didn't have to bury him.

No argument from me because i was a big DDP fan and felt the stalker storyline had potential, but at the same time i still put the fault on Vince since the buck stops with him.

Austin took that like a bitch. Yeah, suck it up. He wasn't the only guy starving Tennessee at the time. All the territories were dying and he was a no better than a mid card guy. Promoters screwing talent wasn't exclusive to Steve Austin or Jerry Jarrett.
But that goes back to Vince buckling to his top guy again, same as he did for Shawn and HHH and it was bad for business. Jeff's top feud was with Chyna because he didn't get Austin. When you have a heel that hot, you rob your company and your fans of seeing your top babyface kick his ass and everyone knows Austin and Jarrett could have had great matches and it was only a matter of time before Debra got the el-kabong

Well what we're seeing over time is Austin is a bit of a diva himself which is ironic since he's billed as the toughest s.o.b in the wwe, but i don't feel sorry for Jarrett since it seems like no one really likes him. I never cared for Jarrett and the only time i found him entertaining was when he was when he was managed by debra & feuded with Chyna.




Yeah but I might pay for a couple and get a download of Mania.

I'll be watching at firstrowsports and praying a link doesn't die.

Watchin Impact last night and that was an entertaining show. Joey Ryan was living most male (and some female) fans dream in reffing that KO match.

I liked Joey's gimmick back in 98 when it was called Val Venis:lol:


Line of the week: Devon asking Ray if he would give him the "hot tag" with Brooke.

I thought Ray was going to say "i don't think she does brothas":lol:
 
Man that WM 29 press conference today was brutal, HHH did his "Are You Ready" bit and was met with complete silence:lol: Every wrestler got minimal to no reaction and you could tell it Vince did this on purpose so we wouldn't get another great presser like the WM 27 one. I like it better when they just open it up to the fans and let them express themselves, but since Cena got booed out the building a couple of years ago they've been more controlled.
this was an epic press conference!!

 
As far as i know it's believed DDP pissed some people off behind the scenes and DDP was seen as a dramatic person in the WCW locker room. DDP isn't clean himself either but i don't think he's done anything outrageous. I think the WWE basically humbled him to show him he wasn't as big as he thought he was in WCW.

There was a rumor that DDP was going to go to TNA but it was called off at the last minute because of his demands, namely having the Word title put on him immediately.
 
No argument from me because i was a big DDP fan and felt the stalker storyline had potential, but at the same time i still put the fault on Vince since the buck stops with him.

Always. Bill Watts and Ole Anderson wouldn't put up with the shit he has from his top stars, from Hogan to Austin to Cena.



Well what we're seeing over time is Austin is a bit of a diva himself which is ironic since he's billed as the toughest s.o.b in the wwe, but i don't feel sorry for Jarrett since it seems like no one really likes him. I never cared for Jarrett and the only time i found him entertaining was when he was when he was managed by debra & feuded with Chyna.

I didn't care for anything Jeff did in the WWF until he cut his hair but when he was elkabonging Mae Young and Moolah every week, that stuff was gold.








I liked Joey's gimmick back in 98 when it was called Val Venis:lol:

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Yeah, he's got some Val in it but it's more like a 70s version of Val Venis. They wanted Val to be appealing to women, TNA just wants Ryan to be sleazy and he's killing it.




I thought Ray was going to say "i don't think she does brothas":lol:

:roflmao:

There was a rumor that DDP was going to go to TNA but it was called off at the last minute because of his demands, namely having the Word title put on him immediately.

DDP did go for a second but he didn't want to put over Monty Brown and left.
 
What's the deal with these decent matches having anti-climatic endings.

They better start stepping it up for the main event matches.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Charles Montgomery Punk with In Living Colour. That is all. Back to lurk mode!

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What hole did they find In Living Colour hiding in????

And don't think y'all are slick. I know they put this match on at 9 just so we'd have to chose between this and Game of Thrones .... bastards :lol:
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