THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....

[Alphachino]

Yall niggas buggin Velvet look like her pussy made of cake. That bitch fine as fuck for a white broad.

The two sisters on WWE are thick as shit tho, I can't lie. And my baby Layla is the baddest of them all.

Damn!! I ain't know Tess was packin like that!!!

 

[dirtyd]

Yall niggas buggin Velvet look like her pussy made of cake. That bitch fine as fuck for a white broad.

The two sisters on WWE are thick as shit tho, I can't lie. And my baby Layla is the baddest of them all.

Damn!! I ain't know Tess was packin like that!!!

Calm down bruh no one said she wasn't fine, i simply said she looks better now vs her early 00 look.

 

[c_commander]

That was the shittiest hurricaranna I have ever seen
Good match but Cena needs to work on the countout thing. So he's motionless til the count hit 9, he jumps up and slides in the ring and then he's completely motionless again.
I am really surprised that they let Punk do a piledriver.
The sight of Brock busted open added a lot to that segment.

As far wrestling females go
AJ Lee, Layla, Naomi, Rosita, Ms. Tessmacher, Cameron

 

[dirtyd]

That was the shittiest hurricaranna I have ever seen
Good match but Cena needs to work on the countout thing. So he's motionless til the count hit 9, he jumps up and slides in the ring and then he's completely motionless again.
I am really surprised that they let Punk do a piledriver.
The sight of Brock busted open added a lot to that segment.

As far wrestling females go
AJ Lee, Layla, Naomi, Rosita, Ms. Tessmacher, Cameron

That Rana was really bad and he needs to perfect these moves before trying them in a live match, very good match but Punk will be racking up losses until MITB or Summer Slam.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

Damn!! I ain't know Tess was packin like that!!!

 

[NightMare Paint]

That was the shittiest hurricaranna I have ever seen
Good match but Cena needs to work on the countout thing. So he's motionless til the count hit 9, he jumps up and slides in the ring and then he's completely motionless again.
I am really surprised that they let Punk do a piledriver.
The sight of Brock busted open added a lot to that segment.

As far wrestling females go
AJ Lee, Layla, Naomi, Rosita, Ms. Tessmacher, Cameron

He'll just keep doing it wrong and will call it a F-Urricanranna

 

[c_commander]

He'll just keep doing it wrong and will call it a F-Urricanranna

The FU will stand for fucked up.

 

[Nochturnal]

He'll just keep doing it wrong and will call it a F-Urricanranna

Please GOD never let him try that again

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

So Taker returned at a house show to see if he could put on a decent match.

He got hurt pretty bad last WM.

He had surgery on his hip and his shoulder which didn't allow to work neither his upper body or his lower body which is why he has a gut.

Now the plan is for him to do house shows so he can get back into ring shape by WM.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

That was the shittiest hurricaranna I have ever seen
Good match but Cena needs to work on the countout thing. So he's motionless til the count hit 9, he jumps up and slides in the ring and then he's completely motionless again.

Why would he do that? Yeah, he needs to add some new moves to his set but what the hell was that?
On the way he sells countouts, just more of his not understanding how to sell and overdramatizing. To see how that's done correctly, see Del Rio in the match he won the WHC from Big Show where he beat the count by landing on his feet on the outside.
Again he takes a lot of punishment, hits a couple moves and its over. I hated it when Hogan did it and I hate it now.
When was the last time Dolph Ziggler won a match? He's fallen behind Swagger and Henry on the heel list.
Just send the Prime Time Players to FCW. Take them off tv for a few months because they just killed them last night.

He'll just keep doing it wrong and will call it a F-Urricanranna

The FU will stand for fucked up.

 

[dirtyd]

Why would he do that? Yeah, he needs to add some new moves to his set but what the hell was that?
On the way he sells countouts, just more of his not understanding how to sell and overdramatizing. To see how that's done correctly, see Del Rio in the match he won the WHC from Big Show where he beat the count by landing on his feet on the outside.
Again he takes a lot of punishment, hits a couple moves and its over. I hated it when Hogan did it and I hate it now.
When was the last time Dolph Ziggler won a match? He's fallen behind Swagger and Henry on the heel list.
Just send the Prime Time Players to FCW. Take them off tv for a few months because they just killed them last night.

He sold the piledriver great but that count out was fucking stupid, now people on other sites are saying this should be the ME at Mania whereas i think this was the perfect way to end it. Ziggler is a wash now and i think they missed the perfect opportunity to have him cash in last week, now when he does win it'll be more like a "finally it's over" type feel like with the Rock vs Cena match. Remember when HHH said he wanted to revitalize the tag team division? Now we know he was full of shit because that was fucking pathetic last night. P.T.P should've been champs by now and Rhodes Scholar had so much potential, if this company focused more on their wrestling roots instead of social media they would be in prime position for another boom period.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

He sold the piledriver great but that count out was fucking stupid, now people on other sites are saying this should be the ME at Mania whereas i think this was the perfect way to end it. Ziggler is a wash now and i think they missed the perfect opportunity to have him cash in last week, now when he does win it'll be more like a "finally it's over" type feel like with the Rock vs Cena match. Remember when HHH said he wanted to revitalize the tag team division? Now we know he was full of shit because that was fucking pathetic last night. P.T.P should've been champs by now and Rhodes Scholar had so much potential, if this company focused more on their wrestling roots instead of social media they would be in prime position for another boom period.

I see Dolph cashing it in at Mania but having gotten beaten so bad by everyone since MiTB ppv, it won't matter.
I take HHH at his word that he wanted to revitalize the tag division but he works for Vince McMahon and Vince McMahon doesn't give a shit about tag teams and probably never has. As far back as Nikolai Volkoff and the Iron Sheik, he's liked the idea of putting two singles guys together and putting the straps on them and that's how it is.

edit:
Let's give Punk some credit
He saw Cena couldn't get his footing on the top rope for the Rocker Dropper spot and they were in danger of losing the ground and he saved that moment.
Brock better remember how to protect himself or those 12 staples (!) will just be the beginning. He had to have had his bell rung hitting that post flush like that. Probably thought he was out there with Cain Velasquez again.

 

[dirtyd]

Now this is how you sell folks

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Please GOD never let him try that again

Oh, he will whip that out for Mania.


Stuff like this makes life worth living

YOU WILL NEVER GUESS WHO RIC FLAIR IS SWAPPING WIVES WITH
by Mike Johnson @ 2:40 PM on 2/27/2013

Earlier today, PWInsider.com broke that WWE Hall of Famer Ric Flair would be appearing on ABC's "Celebrity Wife Swap" with his girlfriend, former WCW personality Fifi the Maid being swapped to go live with another family.
This afternoon, we confirmed the other family belongs to another WWE Hall of Famer: Roddy Piper.

The premise of the show will see Fifi go to live with Piper's family while Roddy's wife goes to live with Ric's family so the two sides can compare and learn from each other.

The episode was filmed the week of 2/14.

Didn't know Slick Ric was banging Fifi. Saw her at some shows lately, she's aged pretty well.
Somehow, Ric Flair is a bigger pop cuture icon than he was when he was a wrestler.

 

[Nochturnal]

Oh, he will whip that out for Mania.


Stuff like this makes life worth living

YOU WILL NEVER GUESS WHO RIC FLAIR IS SWAPPING WIVES WITH
by Mike Johnson @ 2:40 PM on 2/27/2013

Earlier today, PWInsider.com broke that WWE Hall of Famer Ric Flair would be appearing on ABC's "Celebrity Wife Swap" with his girlfriend, former WCW personality Fifi the Maid being swapped to go live with another family.
This afternoon, we confirmed the other family belongs to another WWE Hall of Famer: Roddy Piper.

The premise of the show will see Fifi go to live with Piper's family while Roddy's wife goes to live with Ric's family so the two sides can compare and learn from each other.

The episode was filmed the week of 2/14.

Didn't know Slick Ric was banging Fifi. Saw her at some shows lately, she's aged pretty well.
Somehow, Ric Flair is a bigger pop cuture icon than he was when he was a wrestler.

Undercard of next years Mania Piper vs Flair as direct result of this show

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

Side note: I was reading where Punk/Undertaker is a lock for 'mania, but there is not sufficient enough time to build the match plus Punk is on a losing streak in the big matches. (Two to Rock, one to Cena) We KNOW he's losing to the Undertaker and they are worried about how he'll look after 'mania.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Undercard of next years Mania Piper vs Flair as direct result of this show

Side note: I was reading where Punk/Undertaker is a lock for 'mania, but there is not sufficient enough time to build the match plus Punk is on a losing streak in the big matches. (Two to Rock, one to Cena) We KNOW he's losing to the Undertaker and they are worried about how he'll look after 'mania.

Frankly, Punk-Taker sells itself. HHH-Taker from the other year didn't need a lot of build, just HHH interrupting Taker's promo and it was on.
They're concerned? Easy answer, put Punk over. It's really that easy. The Streak is The Streak. The dvds have been made, the legend secure so let's move on and build a new star. Reward Punk for really carrying the ball all last year and still going to the next level and giving Rock and Cena some of their best matches of their careers.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

Frankly, Punk-Taker sells itself. HHH-Taker from the other year didn't need a lot of build, just HHH interrupting Taker's promo and it was on.
They're concerned? Easy answer, put Punk over. It's really that easy. The Streak is The Streak. The dvds have been made, the legend secure so let's move on and build a new star. Reward Punk for really carrying the ball all last year and still going to the next level and giving Rock and Cena some of their best matches of their careers.

They at LEAST have to make it look like Punk has a chance of winning. I know he'll do a good job carrying his portion of the match but sneak attacking and laying the Undertaker out isn't enough. Punk needs to beat him before then once. Do the "Does the Undertaker still have it" thing.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

They at LEAST have to make it look like Punk has a chance of winning. I know he'll do a good job carrying his portion of the match but sneak attacking and laying the Undertaker out isn't enough. Punk needs to beat him before then once. Do the "Does the Undertaker still have it" thing.

Considering this will be a "one and done" situation most likely, they shouldn't even touch each other. You don't want Taker to take any bumps or do anything that might hurt him or even make him look bad. If he does anything and looks old and/or slow, his whole mystique will be dead.
They should just do the right thing and what's good for business and thats a Punk pinfall victory. If Taker thinks he can muster up one more match, let Brock interfere, give him a F5 and then they go next year (after Taker takes another year off). Boom, simple booking just gave us two big matches.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

Considering this will be a "one and done" situation most likely, they shouldn't even touch each other. You don't want Taker to take any bumps or do anything that might hurt him or even make him look bad. If he does anything and looks old and/or slow, his whole mystique will be dead.
They should just do the right thing and what's good for business and thats a Punk pinfall victory. If Taker thinks he can muster up one more match, let Brock interfere, give him a F5 and then they go next year (after Taker takes another year off). Boom, simple booking just gave us two big matches.

If they do Undertaker Cena for next year, then Undertaker HAS to be undefeated. It is the only matchup where people will wonder if the opponent has a chance of winning. I don't think there is a way to do that with Punk.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

If they do Undertaker Cena for next year, then Undertaker HAS to be undefeated. It is the only matchup where people will wonder if the opponent has a chance of winning. I don't think there is a way to do that with Punk.

They shouldnt do Taker-Cena in the first place. I think that match had a spot but they went with two Michaels matches and the 2nd and 3rd HHH matches. Plus to have a good Cena match, they would have to work a lot faster than Taker can at this point. Cena's had some good matches with quite a few guys but he's still not a "leader" and Taker needs help.
Punk beats Taker with interference by Brock, Taker comes back and gets his revenge with a clean pinfall.

And even if they did a Taker-Cena match and Punk goes over this year, the story would be "Will Undertaker lose two in a row after winning 19 in a row?" That's better drama and a better potential story.

 

[dirtyd]

They shouldnt do Taker-Cena in the first place. I think that match had a spot but they went with two Michaels matches and the 2nd and 3rd HHH matches. Plus to have a good Cena match, they would have to work a lot faster than Taker can at this point. Cena's had some good matches with quite a few guys but he's still not a "leader" and Taker needs help.
Punk beats Taker with interference by Brock, Taker comes back and gets his revenge with a clean pinfall.

And even if they did a Taker-Cena match and Punk goes over this year, the story would be "Will Undertaker lose two in a row after winning 19 in a row?" That's better drama and a better potential story.

If i were booking i would've made it Rock vs Punk & Cena vs Taker, the fact is Cena gains nothing from beating Rock & we have no idea how good Taker will look in the ring. Ryback should've won the Rumble and challenged for the WHC, while Punk should've beat Rock and then we could've had the rubber match at Mania. HHH vs Lesnar doesn't really interest me especially if this is a case of HHH getting his win back. I do believe we'll get a much better match from Rock & Cena since the Cena/Punk match is getting such great reviews, i think they can top that match since when you break it down it was the reversals and kick outs that put the match over the top.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

If i were booking i would've made it Rock vs Punk & Cena vs Taker, the fact is Cena gains nothing from beating Rock & we have no idea how good Taker will look in the ring. Ryback should've won the Rumble and challenged for the WHC, while Punk should've beat Rock and then we could've had the rubber match at Mania. HHH vs Lesnar doesn't really interest me especially if this is a case of HHH getting his win back. I do believe we'll get a much better match from Rock & Cena since the Cena/Punk match is getting such great reviews, i think they can top that match since when you break it down it was the reversals and kick outs that put the match over the top.

Honestly what fucks things up is HHH's getting a rematch against Lesnar. Lesnar should either get the match against the Undertaker (because he would be a believable threat) or Cena.(Lesnar wants revenge). But if you have HHH/Lesnar it should be 2 out of 3 falls:

First fall: Standard match with Lesnar "injuring" HHH.
Second Fall MMA or "Submission" rules with HHH getting a fluke win
Third fall: Hell in a cell.

This way HHH can do the training montages he likes to do building up to Wrestlemania and do the Rocky/Clubber Lang angle.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

If i were booking i would've made it Rock vs Punk & Cena vs Taker, the fact is Cena gains nothing from beating Rock & we have no idea how good Taker will look in the ring. Ryback should've won the Rumble and challenged for the WHC, while Punk should've beat Rock and then we could've had the rubber match at Mania. HHH vs Lesnar doesn't really interest me especially if this is a case of HHH getting his win back. I do believe we'll get a much better match from Rock & Cena since the Cena/Punk match is getting such great reviews, i think they can top that match since when you break it down it was the reversals and kick outs that put the match over the top.

Because we dont know how good Taker is, he shouldnt be anywhere near Cena. Then the only Streak in danger is Taker's streak of good to great Mania matches.
Ryback winning would be a good idea but with ADR getting over so well as a face (which they seem to be killing by watering him down like they do all faces), you know they prefer heel vs face matches.
I'm with you on HHH-Brock. He didnt just beat HHH, he beat him up, and "broke" his arm twice. That feud is over and Brock won. Then the match at SummerSlam wasn't even that good.
I don't think Rock and Cena can top Cena/Punk or Rock/Punk but it should still be good. They're both limited but they're both hard, smart workers.

Honestly what fucks things up is HHH's getting a rematch against Lesnar. Lesnar should either get the match against the Undertaker (because he would be a believable threat) or Cena.(Lesnar wants revenge). But if you have HHH/Lesnar it should be 2 out of 3 falls:

First fall: Standard match with Lesnar "injuring" HHH.
Second Fall MMA or "Submission" rules with HHH getting a fluke win
Third fall: Hell in a cell.

This way HHH can do the training montages he likes to do building up to Wrestlemania and do the Rocky/Clubber Lang angle.

Seeing that brawl Monday, I expect a street fight stip. Depending on the wrestlers, two out of three matches with different stips can be good but you know neither of these two has the wind to make this match work like it should. But still, Brock fucked him up in a straight match, he should kill him in a street fight. Your options make much more sense.


Talking about Velvet Sky earlier, she has a rematch with Tara tonight. I'm 50/50 that they put it back on Tara. If not tonight, it'll happen soon. She's not good enough to be a long term champion like Gail or Tara.

 

[dirtyd]

Because we dont know how good Taker is, he shouldnt be anywhere near Cena. Then the only Streak in danger is Taker's streak of good to great Mania matches.
Ryback winning would be a good idea but with ADR getting over so well as a face (which they seem to be killing by watering him down like they do all faces), you know they prefer heel vs face matches.
I'm with you on HHH-Brock. He didnt just beat HHH, he beat him up, and "broke" his arm twice. That feud is over and Brock won. Then the match at SummerSlam wasn't even that good.
I don't think Rock and Cena can top Cena/Punk or Rock/Punk but it should still be good. They're both limited but they're both hard, smart workers.

This is why i think Taker should've skipped this Mania since even he might not be able to work a decent match, Punk is a great worker but if Taker is hobbled then it will be extremely noticeable. I think they need to stop with the Face vs Heel only matches since they've done such a terrible job of building up legit heels, Vince needs to let Orton turn already and Orton needs to implement some of his 03 heel persona to make it work. Back then Orton was actually interesting to watch and not a bore like now.

Lesnar/HHH could've been a great Summer Slam match but they played it way to safe and tried to make it a brawl. It looked as if HHH didn't want to take the same ass kicking Cena did at ER so the match suffered a lot because of it, if they don't make their WM match a no dq fight then it will suck.

Talking about Velvet Sky earlier, she has a rematch with Tara tonight. I'm 50/50 that they put it back on Tara. If not tonight, it'll happen soon. She's not good enough to be a long term champion like Gail or Tara.

Velvet is basically the TNA version of Torrie because she's pretty and a fan favorite but she is just awful in the ring, she would make a great valet though like Traci Brooks was in her early TNA days.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

This is why i think Taker should've skipped this Mania since even he might not be able to work a decent match, Punk is a great worker but if Taker is hobbled then it will be extremely noticeable. I think they need to stop with the Face vs Heel only matches since they've done such a terrible job of building up legit heels, Vince needs to let Orton turn already and Orton needs to implement some of his 03 heel persona to make it work. Back then Orton was actually interesting to watch and not a bore like now.

I don't recall what he was doing in 03 but I do remember him being a great heel and Rated RKO was one of my favorite tag teams/factions (was that about that time?). I loved all the Legend Killer stuff and everything. Somewhere around the time they started Legacy and I guess he started getting hurt a lot, he lost something in the ring. But I do think if they went ahead with his turn like they were thinking and it was him instead of Swagger going against ADR, that would be a good match. He's just better as a heel. I know they want him to be the new Jake Roberts but he's not and even Jake was better as a heel.
Plus that way, they would stop having him beat all the good young heels like Cesaro and Barrett every week.

Lesnar/HHH could've been a great Summer Slam match but they played it way to safe and tried to make it a brawl. It looked as if HHH didn't want to take the same ass kicking Cena did at ER so the match suffered a lot because of it, if they don't make their WM match a no dq fight then it will suck.

I think you're on to something there. By playing it too safe, the match wasn't very interesting and was a disappointment. I know HHH is older but if he can't commit to a stiff match like Cena did, he shouldn't book himself into main events with stiff wrestlers.

Velvet is basically the TNA version of Torrie because she's pretty and a fan favorite but she is just awful in the ring, she would make a great valet though like Traci Brooks was in her early TNA days.

Traci was better than Velvet and she had a birth defect. I think Velvet's best run was when she was working with ODB and Jacqueline but she's fell completely off. After they take the title off her, she should just be the Tommy Dreamer of the KO division: always close but no cigar but still popular.

 

[xspade7]

What happen to the possible Lesnar and Taker match?

KO Division was at it best when Dutch Mantell was there booker, he was released in 2009 but that's when Hogan return to TNA.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

What happen to the possible Lesnar and Taker match?

KO Division was at it best when Dutch Mantell was there booker, he was released in 2009 but that's when Hogan return to TNA.

Taker asked to face Punk. He knew then he needed help and he wanted the best guy in the company.

It wasn't just when Dutch was running them but when Scott D'Amore was their agent. That guy has a good mind for wrestling and knew how to get the best out of the women.

 

[dirtyd]

I don't recall what he was doing in 03 but I do remember him being a great heel and Rated RKO was one of my favorite tag teams/factions (was that about that time?). I loved all the Legend Killer stuff and everything. Somewhere around the time they started Legacy and I guess he started getting hurt a lot, he lost something in the ring. But I do think if they went ahead with his turn like they were thinking and it was him instead of Swagger going against ADR, that would be a good match. He's just better as a heel. I know they want him to be the new Jake Roberts but he's not and even Jake was better as a heel.
Plus that way, they would stop having him beat all the good young heels like Cesaro and Barrett every week.

03 is when the legend killer gimmick started and his promos were good/great, now it's like he had a stroke when it comes to promos. Wrestling wise he's much better now than back then but he still hasn't topped his WM 21 match with Taker. There is also no way in hell he could ever become a JTS clone since Jake had such a great mind for the business, and his promos are still something every wrestler needs to study.

I think you're on to something there. By playing it too safe, the match wasn't very interesting and was a disappointment. I know HHH is older but if he can't commit to a stiff match like Cena did, he shouldn't book himself into main events with stiff wrestlers.

The best part of that match were the introductions

Traci was better than Velvet and she had a birth defect. I think Velvet's best run was when she was working with ODB and Jacqueline but she's fell completely off. After they take the title off her, she should just be the Tommy Dreamer of the KO division: always close but no cigar but still popular.

Jacqueline is a great worker and her matches with Ivory were very good, she became my favorite diva after Fully Loaded 98

 

[Upgrade Dave]

03 is when the legend killer gimmick started and his promos were good/great, now it's like he had a stroke when it comes to promos. Wrestling wise he's much better now than back then but he still hasn't topped his WM 21 match with Taker. There is also no way in hell he could ever become a JTS clone since Jake had such a great mind for the business, and his promos are still something every wrestler needs to study.

Yep.

Jacqueline is a great worker and her matches with Ivory were very good, she became my favorite diva after Fully Loaded 98

Fully Loaded. She sho' was. Jackie's never been what you call "fine" but she was cute enough and her body was...just.
She was good because she got to work in smaller companies for years, even being the first woman to be in the PWI 500, before she ever set foot in WCW and the WWF. Now there are too many, especially in WWE, that have no experience at all and it's on the job training on national tv. While far better, far more dedicated females toil away in front of small crowds and trying to figure out how long they can hold on before they have to get "real" jobs.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

OK, TNA needs to sign BOTH of those bitches in Gut Check.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

OK, TNA needs to sign BOTH of those bitches in Gut Check.

Hell yeah. Put Ivelisse on the roster right now, let her work with Madison Rayne for a few weeks, then Tara, with her facing Gail for the title by Slammiversary or BFG. Then bring back Lei'D Tapa so she can get her revenge for Ivelisse "stealing" her spot.
Those women had the best wrestling match for any women in the "big" companies in a long time. Not a bunch of spots or poor choreography, just a straight wrestling match.

 

[dirtyd]

Hell yeah. Put Ivelisse on the roster right now, let her work with Madison Rayne for a few weeks, then Tara, with her facing Gail for the title by Slammiversary or BFG. Then bring back Lei'D Tapa so she can get her revenge for Ivelisse "stealing" her spot.
Those women had the best wrestling match for any women in the "big" companies in a long time. Not a bunch of spots or poor choreography, just a straight wrestling match.

Vince hired Ivelisse for her looks but he didn't realize she could also wrestle, meanwhile he has his scouts looking for the next Luna Vachon or Trish Stratus at a Hooters competition

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Vince hired Ivelisse for her looks but he didn't realize she could also wrestle, meanwhile he has his scouts looking for the next Luna Vachon or Trish Stratus at a Hooters competition

With John Lauranaitis out of power, maybe, just maybe he can find nice to decent looking women who can actually wrestle.


Nevermind, he has some on the roster now and Kaitlyn is the Divas champ.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Well, they took the long way around but Punk vs Taker is done.

Dolph lost clean to Miz. To the Miz.
The IC and US champs both lost again.

What happened to Bo Dallas? What happened to the Usos' push?

I've been calling Ryback vs Mark Henry since big Mark came back. I dont know if it's going to be that good (Ryback's still a little green) but it seems to book itself.

Randy, Sheamus, Show vs The Shield?