We need a real black intelligent president, not a community organizer.
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Ben Carson should stick to performing surgery and you should GTFOH with this bullshit.![]()
I never heard of this guy before this thread
Even if he is an acccomplished neurosurgeon, people aren't pointing to him as a role model for their kids.
I have heard of Dr. Ben Carson and admired his accomplishments for many years. If he were to talk to me about brain surgery or healthy eating (especially for African Americans) I would listen and readily soak in the knowledge.
However, a doctor talking to me about the flat tax. Sure there are some things that sound good and others that he is probably qualified to have an opinion on somewhat - healthcare savings. But sadly he is nothing more than a tag line in a black face (kinda like Rubio). He is not saying anything revolutionary or trying to move the needle forward on serious political issues. A flat tax is great - what should we cut? How exactlly will a flat tax lead to more revenue - many products are non-American and we don't have a great minimum wage. I don't think a health savings plan will really help those making $7.50 an hour (but hey - we will have more people working!!!!).
More importantly, I wish I could say he was refreshing, but he is retiring within the next two years and nothing says I'm running for politcal office than using a prayer breakfast to expose your views. He will either be running for office as a republican or on fox news.
Now let's say he agreed with some of the things the president mentioned like the affordable health care act...think he could run for office or get on MSNBC? No - they got a million like him. This was his way to get in the front of the line. He can now keep the ball rolling.
I don't know Carson's views on a flat tax, health care plans, or his political aspirations. However, you seem to be holding him to some high standard for whatever reason.I have heard of Dr. Ben Carson and admired his accomplishments for many years. If he were to talk to me about brain surgery or healthy eating (especially for African Americans) I would listen and readily soak in the knowledge.
However, a doctor talking to me about the flat tax. Sure there are some things that sound good and others that he is probably qualified to have an opinion on somewhat - healthcare savings. But sadly he is nothing more than a tag line in a black face (kinda like Rubio). He is not saying anything revolutionary or trying to move the needle forward on serious political issues. A flat tax is great - what should we cut? How exactlly will a flat tax lead to more revenue - many products are non-American and we don't have a great minimum wage. I don't think a health savings plan will really help those making $7.50 an hour (but hey - we will have more people working!!!!).
More importantly, I wish I could say he was refreshing, but he is retiring within the next two years and nothing says I'm running for politcal office than using a prayer breakfast to expose your views. He will either be running for office as a republican or on fox news.
Now let's say he agreed with some of the things the president mentioned like the affordable health care act...think he could run for office or get on MSNBC? No - they got a million like him. This was his way to get in the front of the line. He can now keep the ball rolling.
Check out herman cain. Talk radio bullshitter - ran for president - got fucked over cause he forgot that he has skeletons - landed on Fox news. Ben carson - is probably thinking I can do better than that - why else would he break protocol without any real stats behind his thoughts?
Maybe you answered your own question:
I don't know Carson's views on a flat tax, health care plans, or his political aspirations. However, you seem to be holding him to some high standard for whatever reason.
As the original post in this thread pointed out, he's being contrasted with a community organizer. What is inherent in a community organizer over a neurologist in thinking about the tax system, health care system, or legitimacy in running for president?
A politician is just a person who went through an election process. There is nothing they offer more than any other person. I think the ABILITY to think about complicated issues is more recognizable in a neurosurgeon compared to a community organizer.
If you look at politicians, their only qualification for thinking about taxes or healthcare is they were elected. Their backgrounds aren't normally medical or financial/economics based. I'm saying this because you seem to be dismissing what Carson is saying if it's not medical related.
I say "modern" because I wouldn't want to disrespect the times where black people had pride in themselves and would think the current black condition is good.Yep. Name all the famous doctors and compare them to the number of famous rappers.
Heck, I challenge the notion that "modern Black people" put rappers over doctors or that Black parents point to entertainers as role models but reject professionals.
People say the most revealing things.
Its more revealing where you pretended to "welcome a new voice" on the board but you really just thought he was "an idiot."That's the OP revealing himself to be an idiot. Barack Obama spent more time as a law professor than a community organizer but those on the Right, who hate people who actually work with the disadvantaged, still try to make being a "community organizer" a slur.
Ben Carson should stick to performing surgery and you should GTFOH with this bullshit.![]()
I don't know Carson's views on a flat tax, health care plans, or his political aspirations. However, you seem to be holding him to some high standard for whatever reason.
As the original post in this thread pointed out, he's being contrasted with a community organizer. What is inherent in a community organizer over a neurologist in thinking about the tax system, health care system, or legitimacy in running for president?
A politician is just a person who went through an election process. There is nothing they offer more than any other person. I think the ABILITY to think about complicated issues is more recognizable in a neurosurgeon compared to a community organizer.
If you look at politicians, their only qualification for thinking about taxes or healthcare is they were elected. Their backgrounds aren't normally medical or financial/economics based. I'm saying this because you seem to be dismissing what Carson is saying if it's not medical related.
I say "modern" because I wouldn't want to disrespect the times where black people had pride in themselves and would think the current black condition is good.
Its more revealing where you pretended to "welcome a new voice" on the board but you really just thought he was "an idiot."
Barack Obama ran as a community organizer his first term not as a law professor. Why did he do that? Probably because no one would give a shit about him being a professor at a top-tier university. So if the OP associates community organizer with Obama more than University of Chicago professor then blame Obama, but then again blaming him for anything is unthinkable on this board.
I could quibble with your belief anyone in government worries about constitutionality, but generally I would agree.That's it - I don't look at a politician/Neurosurgeon/Constitutional Law Professor/Community Org. etc.. for knowledge on the flat tax,etc... I look to economists and then economics. Health care - healthcare policy analysts/economists ...etc... politicians usually are front men/women on most issue. Sure you have Elizabeth Warren for consumer protection and banking issues and the President for Constitutional Law issues who have expertise.
The OP is an idiot - to describe the president as unintelligent. To be honest - the President's credentials compare nicely to Dr. Ben Carson. And intelligence is not even an issue for both. Additionally, I think the ability to think about complex non-medical issues - such as the constitutionality of health care overhaul/progressive tax rate and other constitutional issues that often involve economics (part of the foundation of law)is more recognizable in a Constitutional Law professor than a neurosurgeon .....I guess the president never went to Harvard. Never was editor and chief of Law Review. Never graduated Magna cum lude from Harvard Law and then taught con law at a top 10 institution.
Finally - I have no problem with a politician who previously helped lead voting registration drives as a civil rights attorney.
Actually he ran as a senator from Chicago here to bring change after 8 years of hypocritical bullshit. He never shied away from his life before hand. Only republicans and other against him - tried to paint him as simply a community organizer.
I think by no one gave a shit about the pres as a lawyer - you mean Donald Trump and his ilk who tried to imply that he was an an affirmative action case who did't have the aptitude for the presidency nor public office. Since law school grading is anonymous - I guess that doesn't really hold weight now does it?
I'm not familiar with the OP, but this board is quick to turn personal when Obama is insulted. It's not healthy. People's aren't idiots if they have no respect for Obama, and you're not smart because you respect everything about him.Finally - there are many things we can critique the president for. No one is perfect. And our Constitution and three-branch system insures that the president can only do so much.
However, when someone calls the president just a community organizer or implies that he is unintelligent. He is an idiot. Because clear facts suggest otherwise.
I enjoyed listening -- though I must admist that I was caused to be cautious even before he spoke a word, having been introduced by Jeff Sessions. I think you make a good point about the health savings accounts and that we should dig-down into the specifics with respect to any other "solution" he advances, not because he or some might project him as the next ___________ (insert here as appropropriate) Hope, but because all that glitters, ain't gold.
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This Dr. Ben Carson has been on Fox News and Hannity several times since that prayer breakfast. He laughs and chucks it up with them on the show. He is their new black token. Anytime you have Hannity asking you to run for President, you have a problem. Also, Carson is on that, "Those black people.....they" type shit like the pizza man Herman Cain. He also has the likes of Allen West, Ann Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh championing him. He's a damn fool if he lets Fox News play his ass like a sucka.
Here's a quote from Carson:
“I’m somewhat disappointed that more African Americans don’t kind of think for themselves and [that they] just kind of go with whatever they’re supposed to say and think"
I say "modern" because I wouldn't want to disrespect the times where black people had pride in themselves and would think the current black condition is good.
Its more revealing where you pretended to "welcome a new voice" on the board but you really just thought he was "an idiot."
I don't have to pretend. I encourage more people to come here but not if they're just going to spout off whatever dribble they lapped up from Rush or Hannity. They dont add anything to the dialogue. Barack Obama ran as a community organizer his first term not as a law professor. Why did he do that? Probably because no one would give a shit about him being a professor at a top-tier university. So if the OP associates community organizer with Obama more than University of Chicago professor then blame Obama, but then again blaming him for anything is unthinkable on this board.
I'm not familiar with the OP, but this board is quick to turn personal when Obama is insulted. It's not healthy. People's aren't idiots if they have no respect for Obama, and you're not smart because you respect everything about him.
Dudes a brain surgeon. Of course he's going to be against Obamacare. That's how he overcharges people.
I too admire Dr. Carson. His humble roots in rural Georgia, his hard work and genius to become one of the premier neurosurgeons in the world.
He is a conservative. I don't know to what extreme, but he seems to have come out in opposition to Obmamacare, which leads me to believe he is not about seriously providing heath care to all.
This Dr. Ben Carson has been on Fox News and Hannity several times since that prayer breakfast. He laughs and chucks it up with them on the show. He is their new black token. Anytime you have Hannity asking you to run for President, you have a problem. Also, Carson is on that, "Those black people.....they" type shit like the pizza man Herman Cain. He also has the likes of Allen West, Ann Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh championing him. He's a damn fool if he lets Fox News play his ass like a sucka.
Here's a quote from Carson:
“I’m somewhat disappointed that more African Americans don’t kind of think for themselves and [that they] just kind of go with whatever they’re supposed to say and think"
