Did police set Dorner's cabin on fire?

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Alleged police audio fuels speculation that authorities may have purposely burned the fugitive ex-cop.

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"Ok, we're gonna go forward with the plan, with the burn ... like we talked about."

"Seven burners deployed and we have a fire."

"Copy. Seven burners deployed and we have a fire."


The recording




These purported police commands come from 5 minutes and 17 seconds of audio allegedly recorded off law enforcement radios during Tuesday’s tense standoff between SWAT officers and suspected serial killer Christopher Dorner.

The recording, posted to YouTube, has fueled speculation that authorities may have purposely started the fire to either kill Dorner or force him to surrender.

On Wednesday, law enforcement sources confirmed to the Los Angeles Times that officers did throw incendiary tear gas canisters into the mountain cabin before it caught fire. According to the Times:

SWAT officers surrounding the cabin were under a "constant barrage of gunfire," one source said. “He put himself in that position. There weren’t a lot of options.” Hoping to end the standoff, law enforcement authorities first lobbed "traditional" tear gas into the cabin. When that did not work, they opted to use CS gas canisters, which are known in law enforcement parlance as incendiary tear gas. These canisters have significantly more chance of starting a fire. This gas can cause humans to have burning eyes and start to feel as if they are being starved for oxygen. It is often used to drive barricaded individuals out.

Dorner, a disgruntled ex-LAPD officer accused of killing four people in the past week, never emerged from the charred cabin near Big Bear Lake, Calif.

The coroner’s office is studying the remains of a burned body found in the basement, but an anonymous official told The Associated Press that a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license issued to Christopher Dorner, were recovered.

An exact cause of death for the body has not been revealed. On the YouTube audio, an unidentified voice says, “It sounds like one shot fired from inside the residence” about the time a police demolition vehicle was tearing down the cabin’s walls and the house became inflamed.

“We have fire in the front. He might come out the back,” a voice says on the YouTube recording.

"Fire doing quite well. I'm going to let it go," a law enforcement officer also said, according to a Yahoo News reporter also monitoring the San Bernardino sheriff’s radio traffic.

A smart move, S.W.A.T. Magazine editor Denny Hansen told Yahoo News.

“You really can’t send firemen up there if the subject is still alive and may shoot them,” said Hansen, himself a former tactical officer. “They may have believed that he started the fire as a diversionary tactic to escape.”

Veteran police consultant Chuck Drago told Yahoo News that he interprets the officers’ discussion of “burners” to be the tear gas canisters that were used.

“They are not meant to cause fire, but they can,” he said. “Sometimes you have a lot of options at your disposal, and sometimes you're limited.”

With nightfall approaching and Dorner having already vowed in an online manifesto to seek revenge by unleashing "unconventional and asymmetrical warfare," Drago said the officers must have decided that the cabin catching fire was worth the risk to accomplish their mission.

“They had to move pretty quickly in this situation,” he said.

Hansen scoffs at anyone who thinks otherwise.

“I’ve already heard some people say, ‘Well, they burned him alive without a trial,’” Hansen said. “There are always going to be conspiracy theories.”
 
This won't make a major story, dumb racists will think police are supposed to do this.
 


0:17 - "Burn that mother fucker out..."
0:22 - "Burn that fucking house down"
0:40 - "Get going right now - fucking burn this mother fucking..."





1:00 - "We're gonna go forward with the plan, with the... with the burner. The one that, uh... like we talked about."
1:27 - "Seven burners deployed, and we have a fire."
 
that sheit burned to fast and to hot right from the beginning. i mean it just consumed the structure so quick. i thought it looked weird when they played it on tv cause it wasn't just like it started in one isolated section of the cabin then spread. it was like all over at the same time from jump.

their plan all along was to set fire to that structure with him inside. there were terrified of dorner right to the end
 
if you didn't think they set that fire you are a fool...

Ask yourself Why they stopped all live coverage of the cabin then all of a sudden when they let news cameras go live on the cabin it was on fire... And the news reporters talking about the smoke was from tear gas grenades, because they "supposedly" tear gassed the cabin to drive him out...


Really ppl we can't be that dumb...
 
In wooded areas, don't they have helicopters that create fires to divert wildfire to burn them out?

I was wondering if they had a helicopter of their own to drop fuel on the house or ground units like the fire department that they got up there 30 minutes after the two deputies got shot?

Plausible reasons to get the media out of the area.
 
The coroner’s office is studying the remains of a burned body found in the basement, but an anonymous official told The Associated Press that a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license issued to Christopher Dorner, were recovered.

Dorner carried a shitload of extra wallets on him. Always dropping one at scenes...
 
My source in the police department is telling me that the police knew his whereabouts. However, they wanted to lead him into the cabin with a standoff; hoping to burn him alive.

If he tried to escape, they were planning on riddling him with bullets.
 
Wait a minute...... I know cops are racist and fucked up but.... This mofo was shoting back at cops. At that point he knew he was going to die. How were they going to apprehend this cat. Did u hear the shot out

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/us/lapd-manhunt/index.html

This motherfucker was going for his. What exactly did the cops do wrong. Homey was unloading clips. It's either kill or be killed at that point.
 
Wait a minute...... I know cops are racist and fucked up but.... This mofo was shoting back at cops. At that point he knew he was going to die. How were they going to apprehend this cat. Did u hear the shot out

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/us/lapd-manhunt/index.html

This motherfucker was going for his. What exactly did the cops do wrong. Homey was unloading clips. It's either kill or be killed at that point.

Try following police guidelines, they just didn't have the right to light the cabin on fire, they went above the law in doing that, thats on some cowboy shit. Why do you think they are trying to cover it up, it was an illegal tactic.
 
Wait a minute...... I know cops are racist and fucked up but.... This mofo was shoting back at cops. At that point he knew he was going to die. How were they going to apprehend this cat. Did u hear the shot out

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/us/lapd-manhunt/index.html

This motherfucker was going for his. What exactly did the cops do wrong. Homey was unloading clips. It's either kill or be killed at that point.

After the fire started he tried to dip out the backdoor but swat had the place surrounded. They could've ended it right there by taking him out with 1 shot to the dome. They chose to push him back into the burning building (those are the exact words they used). They just didn't want to kill him they wanted to torture dude.
 
Wait a minute...... I know cops are racist and fucked up but.... This mofo was shoting back at cops. At that point he knew he was going to die. How were they going to apprehend this cat. Did u hear the shot out

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/us/lapd-manhunt/index.html

This motherfucker was going for his. What exactly did the cops do wrong. Homey was unloading clips. It's either kill or be killed at that point.

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:smh: im not buying anything the lapd says .
 
Wait a minute...... I know cops are racist and fucked up but.... This mofo was shoting back at cops. At that point he knew he was going to die. How were they going to apprehend this cat. Did u hear the shot out

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/us/lapd-manhunt/index.html

This motherfucker was going for his. What exactly did the cops do wrong. Homey was unloading clips. It's either kill or be killed at that point.

:lol:

so now
fuck it

if he ain't coming out
we don't know if he has hostages or not

burn that shit down.


meanwhile they negotiated with a white man who had a little boy hostage for an entire week :lol:
 
Wait a minute...... I know cops are racist and fucked up but.... This mofo was shoting back at cops. At that point he knew he was going to die. How were they going to apprehend this cat. Did u hear the shot out

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/us/lapd-manhunt/index.html

This motherfucker was going for his. What exactly did the cops do wrong. Homey was unloading clips. It's either kill or be killed at that point.

The operative word is 'back'. He was shooting 'back' at cops.
 
Honestly,to me the biggest story out of all of this is the Police shooting up those innocent people.That shows right there that they had no intentions whatsoever in apprehending him alive.In Police shootings its one thing to have a criminal irate and suspect they have a weapon,but the cops shot up trucks without making a positive ID. "There is a truck...I think its him! Lets shoot it up!" :hmm: They obviously made no attempt to even pull them over.In all of this the Police shot just as many people as Dorner.
 
Honestly,to me the biggest story out of all of this is the Police shooting up those innocent people.That shows right there that they had no intentions whatsoever in apprehending him alive.In Police shootings its one thing to have a criminal irate and suspect they have a weapon,but the cops shot up trucks without making a positive ID. "There is a truck...I think its him! Lets shoot it up!" :hmm: They obviously made no attempt to even pull them over.In all of this the Police shot just as many people as Dorner.

you know fire
what kind of fire was that yesterday.

no trees got lit...controlled burn or something? cause your people weren't even allowed there until it burned down.
 
:lol:

so now
fuck it

if he ain't coming out
we don't know if he has hostages or not

burn that shit down.


meanwhile they negotiated with a white man who had a little boy hostage for an entire week :lol:

Word. Not only that, they had claimed that he had two hostages tied up which would mean that they set that fire not givin' a fuck who was in it. Hell yea, they set it on fire. They said as much.
 
i dont expect anything less of the pigs but when they get one of they own got they react the same
 
right never confirmed and the media just let that slide

then tried to tell us tear gas set off the fire

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Like I said in another thread, they were bankin' on da stupidity of people as well as short attention spans. I don't believe shit they gotta say & I for damn sure don't believe da state sponsored MSM as I haven't for a few years now.
 
Like I said in another thread, they were bankin' on da stupidity of people as well as short attention spans. I don't believe shit they gotta say & I for damn sure don't believe da state sponsored MSM as I haven't for a few years now.

its not even gonna be attention span its gonna be the PUSH away from the story that's gonna FORCE people to forget
they already talking about the cruise ship like someone didn't get burned alive yesterday by the police with the entire nation watching
 
Wait a minute...... I know cops are racist and fucked up but.... This mofo was shoting back at cops. At that point he knew he was going to die. How were they going to apprehend this cat. Did u hear the shot out

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/us/lapd-manhunt/index.html

This motherfucker was going for his. What exactly did the cops do wrong. Homey was unloading clips. It's either kill or be killed at that point.

:lol: Are you serious man.....:smh:

this is why the powers that be get away with so much.....

they had to say he was firing at them in order to get away with burning the house down.....

yes they burned down the house....I would have more respect for them if they just admitted it....
 
brudda had the hoes shook from jumpstreet.....he lettem kno they was gon be remembered as heros.....bet you they could not get a group of 10 LEOS to assualt that cabin.....
 
Alleged police audio fuels speculation that authorities may have purposely burned the fugitive ex-cop.

charredcabin.jpg



"Ok, we're gonna go forward with the plan, with the burn ... like we talked about."

"Seven burners deployed and we have a fire."

"Copy. Seven burners deployed and we have a fire."


The recording




These purported police commands come from 5 minutes and 17 seconds of audio allegedly recorded off law enforcement radios during Tuesday’s tense standoff between SWAT officers and suspected serial killer Christopher Dorner.

The recording, posted to YouTube, has fueled speculation that authorities may have purposely started the fire to either kill Dorner or force him to surrender.

On Wednesday, law enforcement sources confirmed to the Los Angeles Times that officers did throw incendiary tear gas canisters into the mountain cabin before it caught fire. According to the Times:

SWAT officers surrounding the cabin were under a "constant barrage of gunfire," one source said. “He put himself in that position. There weren’t a lot of options.” Hoping to end the standoff, law enforcement authorities first lobbed "traditional" tear gas into the cabin. When that did not work, they opted to use CS gas canisters, which are known in law enforcement parlance as incendiary tear gas. These canisters have significantly more chance of starting a fire. This gas can cause humans to have burning eyes and start to feel as if they are being starved for oxygen. It is often used to drive barricaded individuals out.

Dorner, a disgruntled ex-LAPD officer accused of killing four people in the past week, never emerged from the charred cabin near Big Bear Lake, Calif.

The coroner’s office is studying the remains of a burned body found in the basement, but an anonymous official told The Associated Press that a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license issued to Christopher Dorner, were recovered.

An exact cause of death for the body has not been revealed. On the YouTube audio, an unidentified voice says, “It sounds like one shot fired from inside the residence” about the time a police demolition vehicle was tearing down the cabin’s walls and the house became inflamed.

“We have fire in the front. He might come out the back,” a voice says on the YouTube recording.

"Fire doing quite well. I'm going to let it go," a law enforcement officer also said, according to a Yahoo News reporter also monitoring the San Bernardino sheriff’s radio traffic.

A smart move, S.W.A.T. Magazine editor Denny Hansen told Yahoo News.

“You really can’t send firemen up there if the subject is still alive and may shoot them,” said Hansen, himself a former tactical officer. “They may have believed that he started the fire as a diversionary tactic to escape.”

Veteran police consultant Chuck Drago told Yahoo News that he interprets the officers’ discussion of “burners” to be the tear gas canisters that were used.

“They are not meant to cause fire, but they can,” he said. “Sometimes you have a lot of options at your disposal, and sometimes you're limited.”

With nightfall approaching and Dorner having already vowed in an online manifesto to seek revenge by unleashing "unconventional and asymmetrical warfare," Drago said the officers must have decided that the cabin catching fire was worth the risk to accomplish their mission.

“They had to move pretty quickly in this situation,” he said.

Hansen scoffs at anyone who thinks otherwise.

“I’ve already heard some people say, ‘Well, they burned him alive without a trial,’” Hansen said. “There are always going to be conspiracy theories.”




1. That was not Dorners Cabin....

2. He could have walked out any time he wanted to.

:smh::smh::smh:
 
Man stop taking up for this asshole! He killed cops AND a fine ass asian woman! You NEVER kill FINE LOOKING WOMEN in this country! He needed a hole in the head just for that. This dumbass didn't hide in THE HOOD. Nooooooo, he thought his big black ass could hide in a lily white skii resourt where "nobody will find me in here". I know the police didn't use the 'proper protocol' and 'David Koreshed' his ass, but who gives a fuck! He would have killed cops no matter what their color is . You can't bring "donut eating" cops to the scene because they would have been wasted faster than Michael Vick Camp dogs after losing a dog fight. Dorner was a good shooter. He didn't lean his gun side ways like gang members (messes up your aim).

Dorner was a wast of "good functioning organs". Did anyone mentioned that his wife left his ass too? He was out of a civilian job, army job stifled, and now he has no regular scheduled pussy??? Whackos needed to die. Hell, I would have Bonnie and Clyde the dummy and pumped 130 rounds in his ass.
 
Man stop taking up for this asshole! He killed cops AND a fine ass asian woman! You NEVER kill FINE LOOKING WOMEN in this country! He needed a hole in the head just for that. This dumbass didn't hide in THE HOOD. Nooooooo, he thought his big black ass could hide in a lily white skii resourt where "nobody will find me in here". I know the police didn't use the 'proper protocol' and 'David Koreshed' his ass, but who gives a fuck! He would have killed cops no matter what their color is . You can't bring "donut eating" cops to the scene because they would have been wasted faster than Michael Vick Camp dogs after losing a dog fight. Dorner was a good shooter. He didn't lean his gun side ways like gang members (messes up your aim).

Dorner was a wast of "good functioning organs". Did anyone mentioned that his wife left his ass too? He was out of a civilian job, army job stifled, and now he has no regular scheduled pussy??? Whackos needed to die. Hell, I would have Bonnie and Clyde the dummy and pumped 130 rounds in his ass.

smh. Sooooo... basically you're a drone who believes exactly what the box tells you to believe. Gotcha.

Pleasantries.
 
:lol: Are you serious man.....:smh:

this is why the powers that be get away with so much.....

they had to say he was firing at them in order to get away with burning the house down.....

yes they burned down the house....I would have more respect for them if they just admitted it....

So you can't hear shots being fired in the link I provided????
 
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