Keynesian, Paul Krugman: We are Going to Need Death Panels and Higher Taxes

Lamarr

Star
Registered
Eventually we do have a problem. That the population is getting older, health care costs are rising…there is this question of how we’re going to pay for the programs. The year 2025, the year 2030, something is going to have to give…. …. We’re going to need more revenue…Surely it will require some sort of middle class taxes as well.. We won’t be able to pay for the kind of government the society will want without some increase in taxes… on the middle class, maybe a value added tax…And we’re also going to have to make decisions about health care, doc pay for health care that has no demonstrated medical benefits . So the snarky version…which I shouldn’t even say because it will get me in trouble is death panels and sales taxes is how we do this.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/H9u2Lf0DdzA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Krugman knows the truth, the government constructed healthcare system is crashing. Meidcare and Obamacare will crash. It will mean Lesscare and more taxes. Good chance it will happen before 2025 too!
 
U listening to and cosign paul krugman. He a fake ass keynesian. U on an episode of scar tactics. Cross reference his ass.
 
U listening to and cosign paul krugman. He a fake ass keynesian. U on an episode of scar tactics. Cross reference his ass.

Actually his taking Krugman out of context for his own reasons, like the rest of us can't read.
Krugman's right, we'll need additional revenue and we're going to need to make better healthcare decisions. Now that "Obamacare" is the law of the land, they should put back in the money saving end of life counseling the Tea Party types railed about.
 
Actually his taking Krugman out of context for his own reasons, like the rest of us can't read.

Out of context?

Seems to me, Krugman just made a case for "death panels' as a solution to rising costs. Opponents of the ACA were ostracized because of their fear of the possibility of "death panels". Now the TRUTH is coming to light, it'll be very interesting to see how proponents will spin the unintended consequences of this legislation.
 
Out of context?

Seems to me, Krugman just made a case for "death panels' as a solution to rising costs. Opponents of the ACA were ostracized because of their fear of the possibility of "death panels". Now the TRUTH is coming to light, it'll be very interesting to see how proponents will spin the unintended consequences of this legislation.

Yes, out of context. Those screaming "death panels" were liars then and their liars now and they weren't ostracized nearly enough.
The TRUTH has been out, if some choose to ignore it because their ideology prevents them from embracing contrary information, that's their problem.


Death Panels

Myth 2: Obamacare will introduce "death panels" that will severely ration care and will force elderly patients to commit suicide or submit to euthanasia.

Reality: Introduced by Sarah Palin in 2009, the idea that health care reform will lead to euthanasia is one of the most persistent lies myths surrounding Obamacare. There have been several versions of this claim; the most recent is that the Independent Payment Advisory Board will ration care and will make end-of-life decisions for patients.

In truth, the IPAB is basically powerless. It will make health care policy recommendations to Congress, which will then have the ability to pass or reject those suggestions. The president, in turn, will have the power to veto Congress' decisions -- as he can with any other piece of legislation.

Ironically, death panels already existed before health care reform -- but they were run by your insurance company. Insurers have regularly denied coverage for pre-existing conditions, canceled policies on sick patients, refused to pay for vital, life-saving operations, and otherwise made financially-based decisions about who would get to live and who would be left to die.

According to one congressional report, three insurance companies -- UnitedHealth (UNH), WellPoint (WLP) and Assurant (AIZ) -- saved $300 million by canceling policies on over 20,000 sick people over a five-year period. The new health care law will make many of these practices illegal. In other words, rather than creating death panels, Obamacare will actually abolish them.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/07/11/the-5-biggest-obamacare-myths-explored-explained-and-debunked/

Whatever intelligent conversation you seek on the ACA, you cripple by introducing this type of vitriol that you have to know is untrue.
 
Yes, out of context. Those screaming "death panels" were liars then and their liars now and they weren't ostracized nearly enough.

ah, I see. Death panels already existed but they were imposed by insurance companies.

Whether the result of insurance companies actions or govt actions, I fail to see any form of a "lie"

Whatever intelligent conversation you seek on the ACA, you cripple by introducing this type of vitriol that you have to know is untrue.

UD, your frustration is misdirected. Krugman, not Lamarr, Paul Krugman suggested 'death panels' be used as a method to control rising medical costs. I just made a post
 
UD, your frustration is misdirected. Krugman, not Lamarr, Paul Krugman suggested 'death panels' be used as a method to control rising medical costs. I just made a post

No, I'm aiming it in the right direction. Krugman was, by his own words, being sarcastic, "snarky". You spun that for your own reasons.
 



bro0032l.jpg





,

 
Back
Top