6 Million Americans Living On NOTHING But Food Stamps

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Six Million Living On NOTHING But Food Stamps

By JASON DEPARLE and ROBERT M. GEBELOFF

Jan. 3, 2010


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/03/us/03foodstamps.html

CAPE CORAL, Fla. — After an improbable rise from the Bronx projects to a job selling Gulf Coast homes, Isabel Bermudez lost it all to an epic housing bust — the six-figure income, the house with the pool and the investment property.

Now, as she papers the county with résumés and girds herself for rejection, <SPAN STYLE="background-color:YELLOW"><b>she is supporting two daughters on an income that inspires a double take: zero dollars in monthly cash and a few hundred dollars in food stamps.</b></span>

With food-stamp use at a record high and surging by the day, Ms. Bermudez belongs to an overlooked subgroup that is growing especially fast: recipients with no cash income.

<SPAN STYLE="background-color:YELLOW"><b>About six million Americans receiving food stamps report they have no other income,</b></span> according to an analysis of state data collected by The New York Times. In declarations that states verify and the federal government audits, they described themselves as unemployed and receiving no cash aid — no welfare, no unemployment insurance, and no pensions, child support or disability pay.

Their numbers were rising before the recession as tougher welfare laws made it harder for poor people to get cash aid, but they have soared by about 50 percent over the past two years. About one in 50 Americans now lives in a household with a reported income that consists of nothing but a food-stamp card.

“It’s the one thing I can count on every month — I know the children are going to have food,” Ms. Bermudez, 42, said with the forced good cheer she mastered selling rows of new stucco homes.

Members of this straitened group range from displaced strivers like Ms. Bermudez to weathered men who sleep in shelters and barter cigarettes. Some draw on savings or sporadic under-the-table jobs. Some move in with relatives. Some get noncash help, like subsidized apartments. While some go without cash incomes only briefly before securing jobs or aid, others rely on food stamps alone for many months.

The surge in this precarious way of life has been so swift that few policy makers have noticed. But it attests to the growing role of food stamps within the safety net. One in eight Americans now receives food stamps, including one in four children.

Here in Florida, the number of people with no income beyond food stamps has doubled in two years and has more than tripled along once-thriving parts of the southwest coast. The building frenzy that lured Ms. Bermudez to Fort Myers and neighboring Cape Coral has left a wasteland of foreclosed homes and written new tales of descent into star-crossed indigence.

A skinny fellow in saggy clothes who spent his childhood in foster care, Rex Britton, 22, hopped a bus from Syracuse two years ago for a job painting parking lots. Now, with unemployment at nearly 14 percent and paving work scarce, he receives $200 a month in food stamps and stays with a girlfriend who survives on a rent subsidy and a government check to help her care for her disabled toddler.

“Without food stamps we’d probably be starving,” Mr. Britton said.

A strapping man who once made a living throwing fastballs, William Trapani, 53, left his dreams on the minor league mound and his front teeth in prison, where he spent nine years for selling cocaine. Now he sleeps at a rescue mission, repairs bicycles for small change, and counts $200 in food stamps as his only secure support.

“I’ve been out looking for work every day — there’s absolutely nothing,” he said.

A grandmother whose voice mail message urges callers to “have a blessed good day,” Wanda Debnam, 53, once drove 18-wheelers and dreamed of selling real estate. But she lost her job at Starbucks this year and moved in with her son in nearby Lehigh Acres. Now she sleeps with her 8-year-old granddaughter under a poster of the Jonas Brothers and uses her food stamps to avoid her daughter-in-law’s cooking.

“I’m climbing the walls,” Ms. Debnam said.

Florida officials have done a better job than most in monitoring the rise of people with no cash income. They say the access to food stamps shows the safety net is working.

“The program is doing what it was designed to do: help very needy people get through a very difficult time,” said Don Winstead, deputy secretary for the Department of Children and Families. “But for this program they would be in even more dire straits.”

But others say the lack of cash support shows the safety net is torn. The main cash welfare program, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, has scarcely expanded during the recession; the rolls are still down about 75 percent from their 1990s peak. A different program, unemployment insurance, has rapidly grown, but still omits nearly half the unemployed. Food stamps, easier to get, have become the safety net of last resort.

“The food-stamp program is being asked to do too much,” said James Weill, president of the Food Research and Action Center, a Washington advocacy group. “People need income support.”

Food stamps, officially the called Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, have taken on a greater role in the safety net for several reasons. Since the benefit buys only food, it draws less suspicion of abuse than cash aid and more political support. And the federal government pays for the whole benefit, giving states reason to maximize enrollment. States typically share in other programs’ costs.

The Times collected income data on food-stamp recipients in 31 states, which account for about 60 percent of the national caseload. On average, 18 percent listed cash income of zero in their most recent monthly filings. Projected over the entire caseload, that suggests six million people in households with no income. About 1.2 million are children.

The numbers have nearly tripled in Nevada over the past two years, doubled in Florida and New York, and grown nearly 90 percent in Minnesota and Utah. In Wayne County, Mich., which includes Detroit, one of every 25 residents reports an income of only food stamps. In Yakima County, Wash., the figure is about one of every 17.

Experts caution that these numbers are estimates. Recipients typically report a small rise in earnings just once every six months, so some people listed as jobless may have recently found some work. New York officials say their numbers include some households with earnings from illegal immigrants, who cannot get food stamps but sometimes live with relatives who do.

Still, there is little doubt that millions of people are relying on incomes of food stamps alone, and their numbers are rapidly growing. “This is a reflection of the hardship that a lot of people in our state are facing; I think that is without question,” said Mr. Winstead, the Florida official.

With their condition mostly overlooked, there is little data on how long these households go without cash incomes or what other resources they have. But they appear an eclectic lot. Florida data shows the population about evenly split between families with children and households with just adults, with the latter group growing fastest during the recession.<SPAN STYLE="background-color:YELLOW"><b> They are racially mixed as well — about 42 percent white, 32 percent black, and 22 percent Latino — with the growth fastest among whites during the recession.</b></span>

The expansion of the food-stamp program, which will spend more than $60 billion this year, has so far enjoyed bipartisan support. But it does have conservative critics who worry about the costs and the rise in dependency.

“This is craziness,” said Representative John Linder, a Georgia Republican who is the ranking minority member of a House panel on welfare policy. “We’re at risk of creating an entire class of people, a subset of people, just comfortable getting by living off the government.”

Mr. Linder added: “You don’t improve the economy by paying people to sit around and not work. You improve the economy by lowering taxes” so small businesses will create more jobs.

With nearly 15,000 people in Lee County, Fla., reporting no income but food stamps, the Fort Myers area is a laboratory of inventive survival. When Rhonda Navarro, a cancer patient with a young son, lost running water, she ran a hose from an outdoor spigot that was still working into the shower stall. Mr. Britton, the jobless parking lot painter, sold his blood.

Kevin Zirulo and Diane Marshall, brother and sister, have more unlikely stories than a reality television show. With a third sibling paying their rent, they are living on a food-stamp benefit of $300 a month. A gun collector covered in patriotic tattoos, Mr. Zirulo, 31, has sold off two semiautomatic rifles and a revolver. Ms. Marshall, who has a 7-year-old daughter, scavenges discarded furniture to sell on the Internet.

They said they dropped out of community college and diverted student aid to household expenses. They received $150 from the Nielsen Company, which monitors their television. They grew so desperate this month, they put the breeding services of the family Chihuahua up for bid on Craigslist.

“We look at each other all the time and say we don’t know how we get through,” Ms. Marshall said.

Ms. Bermudez, by contrast, tells what until the recession seemed a storybook tale. Raised in the Bronx by a drug-addicted mother, she landed a clerical job at a Manhattan real estate firm and heard that Fort Myers was booming. On a quick scouting trip in 2002, she got a mortgage on easy terms for a $120,000 home with three bedrooms and a two-car garage. The developer called the floor plan Camelot.

“I screamed, I cried,” she said. “I took so much pride in that house.”

Jobs were as plentiful as credit. Working for two large builders, she quickly moved from clerical jobs to sales and bought an investment home. Her income soared to $180,000, and she kept the pay stubs to prove it. By the time the glut set in and she lost her job, the teaser rates on her mortgages had expired and her monthly payments soared.

She landed a few short-lived jobs as the industry imploded, exhausted her unemployment insurance and spent all her savings. But without steady work in nearly three years, she could not stay afloat. In January, the bank foreclosed on Camelot.

One morning as the eviction deadline approached, Ms. Bermudez woke up without enough food to get through the day. She got emergency supplies at a food pantry for her daughters, Tiffany, now 17, and Ashley, 4, and signed up for food stamps. “My mother lived off the government,” she said. “It wasn’t something as a proud working woman I wanted to do.”

For most of the year, she did have a $600 government check to help her care for Ashley, who has a developmental disability. But she lost it after she was hospitalized and missed an appointment to verify the child’s continued eligibility. While she is trying to get it restored, her sole income now is $320 in food stamps.

Ms. Bermudez recently answered the door in her best business clothes and handed a reporter her résumé, which she distributes by the ream. It notes she was once a “million-dollar producer” and “deals well with the unexpected.”

“I went from making $180,000 to relying on food stamps,” she said. “Without that government program, I wouldn’t be able to feed my children.”


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I'll trade these 6 million Americans for 1 million poor immigrants any day. Poverty for poverty, but the immigrants would be worth a damn a year from now where these crying idiots won't be.
 
I always find it odd that the same people who would rail against businesses who refuse to say "Merry Christmas" and protest removing the 10 commandments in a court house in the name of Jesus would in the same breath fuck those 6 million poor Americans. Kick them the fuck out the country.
Evil ass American-Taliban. :hmm:

-VG
 
I always find it odd that the same people who would rail against businesses who refuse to say "Merry Christmas" and protest removing the 10 commandments in a court house in the name of Jesus would in the same breath fuck those 6 million poor Americans. Kick them the fuck out the country.
Evil ass American-Taliban. :hmm:

-VG

How about this, instead of whining about 6 million people who are broke, how about figure out how to help the six million the right way? How about actually figuring out a way to help them HELP THEMSELVES? I guess that's too evil for you to comprehend right?
 
How about this, instead of whining about 6 million people who are broke, how about figure out how to help the six million the right way? How about actually figuring out a way to help them HELP THEMSELVES? I guess that's too evil for you to comprehend right?

How about an assist rather than throwing them out of the country? Scumbag republiklans think nobody ever needs help unless they happen to be rich bankers on Wallstreet. Everybody else is a burden on society and should be ostracized then kicked the fuck out of their own country.

-VG
 
Ok, let's throw the bankers out too. No problem at all. All beggars must go.

Yo extremist. Nobody goes. Bankers live here just like middle and the poor. Just give those who need help some help, why does helping those who need help a dead concept with you people. What kind of nation is this becoming when it boasts having Christian values in one breath and the next breath forcing people to suffer and blaming them for not figuring out how to get from up under some damn corporatist's damn foot. And because they don't figure it out, lets just throw them out the country.

I'll be damn if Rush and fokkk ain't creating some selfish snobs. And many of yall live paycheck to paycheck.

-VG
 
Yo extremist. Nobody goes. Bankers live here just like middle and the poor. Just give those who need help some help, why does helping those who need help a dead concept with you people. What kind of nation is this becoming when it boasts having Christian values in one breath and the next breath forcing people to suffer and blaming them for not figuring out how to get from up under some damn corporatist's damn foot. And because they don't figure it out, lets just throw them out the country.

I'll be damn if Rush and fokkk ain't creating some selfish snobs. And many of yall live paycheck to paycheck.

-VG



I want to help the less fortunate get on their feet. IMO, that's the only true way to fix this issue. However, the progressive mindset is to be a broke man's personal Jesus. I'm with giving opportunities, not giving handouts. Oh right, that's too "evil" for you to comprehend right?

BTW, I'm not saying DON'T help the people who are UNABLE to help themselves. There's a difference. I hope you understand that...
 
How about an assist rather than throwing them out of the country? Scumbag republiklans think nobody ever needs help unless they happen to be rich bankers on Wallstreet. Everybody else is a burden on society and should be ostracized then kicked the fuck out of their own country.

-VG

when did I say "throw them out the country"?

BTW, I'm against the bailout just like YOU are.

Seriously, are you just making shit up?
 
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More than 40 million Americans are now on food stamps.
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New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, right, and NY Gov. David Paterson,
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Forty one million Americans are now on food stamps. And the number is still soaring. It’s up another 18 percent from a year ago, and it’s hitting all-time records for 19 straight months now.

One in every eight Americans needing public support to eat — to avoid hunger. That is a big, troubling issue in itself.

And then there’s this:
New York City wants to stop its food stamp recipients from buying sodas with their government subsidy. Mayor Michael Bloomberg says it’s to fight obesity — another big national problem.​

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Does government have the right to tell people which "food" items they can buy with their government subsidy ???​


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Good post, Muck. When she was making those six figures, did she prepare for a rainy day ? Shouldn't we all prepare for a rainy day ? I have been out of work (thankfully, not recently), and one of the things I learned well after that is that unemployment at some time during our working careers is inevitable. The housing market exposed a lot of fools. Many people on this board, much like many others, knew that it could not last forever. And one of the reasons the government cannot help more is because it was busy expanding the welfare state during good times.
 
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Yes. Beggars cannot be choosers. You do not have to take the subsidy. The money used is not what you paid into the system. That money was spent before you even paid it.

While I think the subject proposal is tyranically paternalistic, the city does have the right to do it.
 
6 million out of 313 million?

Call me when it hits 22 million...

That's so American. Instead of addressing the issue when it's manageable, wait until it's untenable then try to do something.

I want to help the less fortunate get on their feet. IMO, that's the only true way to fix this issue. However, the progressive mindset is to be a broke man's personal Jesus. I'm with giving opportunities, not giving handouts. Oh right, that's too "evil" for you to comprehend right?
BTW, I'm not saying DON'T help the people who are UNABLE to help themselves. There's a difference. I hope you understand that...


What does that mean? The progressive mindset is take the money you give to multinational corporations and top earners in subsidies and tax breaks to the middle and working classes. You don't nurture a plant by watering the fruit but the roots. Unfortunately the current "conservative" mindset is anti-working people and anti-science so that analogy would be lost on them.
 

Among black children and children living in single-parent households, the percentage is much higher: around 90 percent live in homes that receive food stamps at one stage or another.


And nearly all black children in single parent homes where the head of household has less than a high school education live in financial and food insecurity during part of their childhood, the study says.

So, I wonder what is the percentage of black children in single parent households.

Things must have gotten much worse since I have grown up. There were a lot of food stamps in my hood, but it was not this high.

Does this mean we should at least re-tool the war on poverty ? In the 45 years since it's inception, this is where we are ?
 
So, I wonder what is the percentage of black children in single parent households.

Things must have gotten much worse since I have grown up. There were a lot of food stamps in my hood, but it was not this high.

Does this mean we should at least re-tool the war on poverty ? In the 45 years since it's inception, this is where we are ?

Whenever the government/State declares war, there are two-fronts...

war on the enemy...
war on society.

War is an excuse for government to expand.

Government/State cannot exist without an enemy. So, war is just the government looking for something to do.

War is the mother of inflation.

Nothing destroys prosperity like war.

War expands poverty. So, if you have a war on poverty, poverty will increase.
 
The More Americans That Go On Food Stamps The More Money JP Morgan Makes

JP Morgan is the largest processor of food stamp benefits in the United States. JP Morgan has contracted to provide food stamp debit cards in 26 U.S. states and the District of Columbia. JP Morgan is paid for each case that it handles, so that means that the more Americans that go on food stamps, the more profits JP Morgan makes. Yes, you read that correctly. When the number of Americans on food stamps goes up, JP Morgan makes more money. In the video posted below, JP Morgan executive Christopher Paton admits that this is "a very important business to JP Morgan" and that it is doing very well. Considering the fact that the number of Americans on food stamps has exploded from 26 million in 2007 to 43 million today, one can only imagine how much JP Morgan's profits in this area have soared.

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So, I wonder what is the percentage of black children in single parent households.

Things must have gotten much worse since I have grown up. There were a lot of food stamps in my hood, but it was not this high.

Does this mean we should at least re-tool the war on poverty ? In the 45 years since it's inception, this is where we are ?

You know, I'm reluctant to answer in terms of the War on Poverty. I think the term has a lot of negative connotations, many underservedly so. If we are going to examine black poverty I think the inquiry would have to be so much broader, so much deeper than the W.O.P.

For example, I am amazed at how people now seem to dismiss the forces of institutionalized racism and the part it plays in poverty and a whole host of other societal ills. I note how the phrase, "oh, so now you're playing the race card" has become so chic, even among us. Yet, I have to wonder whether we have really gone as far down the equality road as we seem to think or have we merely changed the prism through which we view it.

As materialistic as we Americans are, I believe we are just as cosmetic.

QueEx
 

RepubliKlans Cut Nutrition Program For
Women, Infants, and Children



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by Zoë Neuberger and Robert Greenstein

June 23, 2011

A large cut in the WIC nutrition program that the House approved last week would force WIC to turn away 300,000 to 450,000 eligible low-income women and young children next year. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">This cut, part of the 2012 appropriations bill that the House approved June 16, would break a 15-year commitment by Administrations and Congresses of both parties to provide enough WIC funding to serve all eligible women, infants, and children who apply.</span>

The proposal is particularly striking given Republican insistence late last year on extending all of President Bush’s tax cuts for the nation’s wealthiest households as well as Republican efforts of recent weeks to preserve lucrative tax breaks for oil companies at a time of huge company profits. The appropriations bill reduces WIC funding from $6.734 billion this year to $6.001 billion in 2012 — a cut of $733 million below the fiscal year 2011 level, which obviously is much less than the continuing cost of the high-end Bush tax cuts, oil company tax breaks, and various other write-offs for well-to-do taxpayers or powerful corporations.[1]

WIC — the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children — provides nutritious foods, counseling on healthy eating, and health care referrals to roughly 9 million low-income pregnant and postpartum women, infants, and children under age five who are at nutritional risk. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">An extensive body of research documents WIC’s high degree of effectiveness in improving birth outcomes, reducing child anemia, and improving participants’ nutrition and health.</span>

Unlike other key low-income nutrition programs, such as SNAP (formerly called food stamps) and school lunches, eligible WIC recipients have no entitlement to benefits. If funds are insufficient, eligible applicants are put on a waiting list for services.

The exact number of people that the proposed funding level could serve will depend in part on food prices — the higher the prices for the foods that WIC provides, the fewer participants a given funding level can serve. Food prices have been rising relatively rapidly in recent months and are expected to continue doing so. The average federal per-participant cost of providing WIC foods in March 2011 (the latest month for which these data are available) was 5.5 percent higher than when the fiscal year started in October 2010 and 5.8 percent higher than in March 2010.

Economists have varying views on the size of the likely increase in food prices over the next 18 months. If the cost of WIC foods increases by 2 percent between fiscal years 2011 and 2012 — the smallest increase likely — the proposed funding cut would force WIC to serve roughly 300,000 fewer people in 2012 than in 2011. If, as some food price experts believe likely, the price increase is 5 percent, WIC would have to be cut by roughly 450,000 people. (The table on the next page illustrates the potential effect of the cut on each state.)

During the House floor debate on the bill, Jack Kingston, the chair of the House Appropriations Agriculture Subcommittee, stated that the funding reduction will not affect participants because contingency and carryover funds (funds provided but not used in fiscal year 2011) will be available. [2] In fact, our estimates reflect the use of all contingency funds, as well as use of the carryover funds from fiscal year 2011, to close funding shortfalls — and the funding level still would result in the large participation cutbacks outlined here.

The number of eligible women, infants, and children who would be turned away from WIC under the proposed funding level may be even higher than these estimates suggest. The WIC program purchases infant formula using a competitive bidding system that reduces federal costs by approximately $2 billion annually. In recent years, when states have entered into a new contract, their infant formula costs typically have increased as a result of smaller rebates (or discounts) and higher infant formula prices. At least ten states will enter into new contracts with infant formula manufacturers in 2012 to purchase formula for their WIC programs, which is likely to raise program costs and thereby reduce the number of people WIC can serve.

http://www.cbpp.org/files/5-23-11fa.pdf

 
The New Face of Homelessness in the US

The New Face of Homelessness in the US
Many who used to be middle-class until 2008 are now sleeping rough with no roof over their heads, or just a car roof. The worst is when they are denied employment because they're overqualified. Cruel irony for the many still burdened by college loans! - Brought to you by RT
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Number of Americans in poverty hits record high

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70% Of Food Stamp Recipients Have No Earned Income

Prolonged US Economic Stagnation Creates Historic Demand,
Food Assistance Averaged $287 a Month.


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September 26, 2011


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Some 70% of households that relied on food stamps last year had no earned income, a new US government report shows.

More than 40 million individuals and nearly 19 million households tapped the food stamp program in 2010, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. While the recession technically ended in 2009, a sluggish economic recovery left millions out of work or underemployed and leaning on the government for assistance last year.

The Agriculture Department’s annual snapshot on the characteristics of food stamp households, released Friday, shows that seven in 10 households receiving food stamps had no earned income last year, though many got other forms of government benefits.

Nearly 21% of households on food stamps also received Supplemental Security Income, assistance for the aged and blind. Some 21.4% received Social Security benefits. Just 8% of households also received Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, the cash welfare program.

<SPAN style="background-color:yellow">But some 20% of households had no cash income of any kind last year, up from 15% in 2007, the year the recession began, and up from 7% in 1990.</span>

That’s partly because most household heads who were receiving food stamps were also out of work. Just 21.8% of them had jobs in 2010, while 19.8% were jobless and looking for work.

More than half of household heads who received food stamps, 51.1%, weren’t in the labor force and weren’t searching for work. Labor-force dropouts have been a particular concern for economists, who worry their lost potential damages economic output. Those who drop out of the work force often turn to other government programs, such as Social Security disability, which is costly.

On average, food stamp households brought home $731 per month in gross income. Their food assistance averaged $287 a month.

Among the other interesting factoids:

<SPAN style="background-color:yellow">–Food stamps may be emerging as a lifeline for families after their unemployment insurance expired. Just 6.7% of households who received food stamps were getting jobless benefits.</span>

– Nearly half of all food-stamp recipients, 47%, were children under the age of 18. Another 8% of recipients were age 60 or older.

<SPAN style="background-color:yellow">– Whites made up the largest share of food stamp households, 35.7%.</span> Some 22% of households receiving food stamps were counted as African American and 10% were Hispanic.

–U.S. born citizens made up the majority, 94%, of food stamp households.

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Millions of Americans who are barely hanging on economically are about to lose their lifelines IF the Teabagger members of the Republican party have their way, They want to END ALL Government assistance programs including unemployment insurance checks after a MAXIMUM of 26 weeks So far the majority of US House Members and US Senators OPPOSE the teabagger idea ; see the chart above.

<blockquote> Close to $2 of every $10 that went into Americans’ wallets last year were payments like jobless benefits, food stamps, Social Security and disability, according to an analysis by Moody’s Analytics. By the end of this year, however, many of those dollars are going to disappear, with the expiration of extended benefits intended to help people cope with the lingering effects of the recession. Moody’s Analytics estimates $37 billion will be drained from the nation’s pocketbooks this year.
READ!!! - Economy Faces a Jolt as Benefit Checks Run Out
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So we have food stamps usage & unemployment benefits usage in the United States at an all time high. We have the ticking time bomb referenced above- EXPIRING extended benefits - for millions of Americans who CAN NOT find jobs ANYWHERE. Did you know that there is a ONE YEAR waiting list to get into THE MILITARY right now. Of course most people do not know this, corporate television media never put this reality on the tube.


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The oligarchs plan for America is to have as many people as possible scrambling for survival as you see in the video below.





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I want to help the less fortunate get on their feet. IMO, that's the only true way to fix this issue. However, the progressive mindset is to be a broke man's personal Jesus. I'm with giving opportunities, not giving handouts. Oh right, that's too "evil" for you to comprehend right?

BTW, I'm not saying DON'T help the people who are UNABLE to help themselves. There's a difference. I hope you understand that...

Not true, that's the lie talk show hosts and propagandists spread to make their own evil palpable. The progressive mindset is to level the playing field so that more people can succeed.
 
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Mom Denied Food Stamps Shoots Kids, Kills Self



December 6, 2011

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(AP) SAN ANTONIO - A Texas woman who for months was unable to qualify for food stamps pulled a gun in a state welfare office and held a seven-hour standoff with police that ended with her shooting her two children before killing herself, officials said Tuesday.

The 10-year-old boy and 12-year-old girl remained in critical condition Tuesday. Authorities identified the mother as Rachelle Grimmer, 38, and children Ramie and Timothy.

When the family entered the office on Monday shortly before it closed, Grimmer asked to speak to a new caseworker, and not the one whom she worked with before, Texas Department of Health and Human Services spokeswoman Stephanie Goodman said.

Grimmer was taken to a private room to discuss her case, then she revealed a gun and the standoff began, Goodman said.

Police negotiators stayed on the phone with Grimmer throughout the evening, but she kept hanging up, Laredo police investigator Joe Baeza said. She allegedly told negotiators about a litany of complaints against state and federal government agencies.

Grimmer let a supervisor go unharmed around 7:45 but stayed inside the office with her children. After hanging up the phone around 11:45, police heard three shots, and a riot police team entered the building. Inside, they found Grimmer's body and her two wounded children.

The children were "very critical" and unconscious, Baeza said.

Goodman said it's not unusual for caseworkers to confront angry or confused benefit-seekers, but that it's very rare for a situation to escalate to violence.

Baeza said Grimmer had recently moved to the border city from Ohio.

Grimmer first applied for food stamps in July but was denied because she didn't turn in enough information, Goodman said. She said it wasn't immediately clear what information was missing.

"We were still waiting, and if we had that, I don't know if she would still qualify or not," Goodman said.

Goodman didn't know whether Grimmer had a job, or whether her children were covered under Medicaid or the state children's health insurance program.

The family's move from Ohio may have complicated Grimmer's application if the family had no Texas records the agency could check electronically, Goodman said.

State welfare offices have come under scrutiny in the past for being overburdened, but Goodman said the agency has made significant progress in the past three years. She said wait times are shorter, and that Grimmer was scheduled for her initial interview just one day after applying. Grimmer didn't make the appointment, she said.

 
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Mom Denied Food Stamps Shoots Kids, Kills Self



December 6, 2011

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57337766/mom-denied-food-stamps-shoots-kids-kills-self/


(AP) SAN ANTONIO - A Texas woman who for months was unable to qualify for food stamps pulled a gun in a state welfare office and held a seven-hour standoff with police that ended with her shooting her two children before killing herself, officials said Tuesday.

The 10-year-old boy and 12-year-old girl remained in critical condition Tuesday. Authorities identified the mother as Rachelle Grimmer, 38, and children Ramie and Timothy.


Wow. This one is tragic. I can't fathom harming my children or myself, but different people react differently to varying pressures. Thankfully, I've never felt pushed to my limits.

I feel bad for these people, especially after reading here the comments of the 12 year old as she was updating her Facebook page live during the stand-off stating at one point, <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">"may die 2day"</span> and at another point, <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">"tear gas seriasly"</span> [sic] as tear gas was being released into the building.

On the other hand, strangely enough, I feel a bit of relief -- that it wasn't one of ours:

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Tennessee RepubliKlan State Senator:

'Cut Parent’s Welfare Benefits If Child Gets Poor Grades'


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<span style="background-color:yellow;">January 29, 2013 </span>

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/...s-welfare-benefits-if-child-gets-poor-grades/


Tennessee State Sen. Stacey Campfield (R) on Tuesday defended his proposal to tie a family’s welfare benefits to their children’s academic success.

“We have a three legged stool for education,” he explained on MSNBC. “One part is the school, one part the teacher, and one part the family. Probably the most important part is the family.”

“Unfortunately we have some families who really don’t care about education, who don’t care if their kids get an education or stay in school, and what we are saying is, if your kid is quitting school, not showing up, showing up at 11 o’clock in his pajamas, that’s not a prepared kid to get an education,” Campfield continued. “We need to do something to motivate these parents to see how important an education is, and unfortunately, the only tool we have left is this cash payment that we make to these families.”

Under current law, parents can lose up to 20 percent of their benefits from the Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) program if a child does not attend school. Campfield’s bill would increase the penalty to 30 percent and require children to make “satisfactory academic progress” in school. The TANF program is aimed at helping poor families pay for living expenses such as rent, heat, utilities and personal care items.

“Like I said, I don’t want these kids to be rocket scientists,” Campfield said. “I don’t want them to split the atom. Listen, passing a grade is not too high a standard. To say, ‘Listen, if your kid shows up at school at 11 o’clock in your pajamas, that kid is not ready for school.’ Families have to take a responsibility for having the kids prepared to go to school.”

Watch the jaw dropping video of an interview with the imbecilic neanderthal below. It's worth watching as the interviewer gives him 14 minutes to expose his diseased barbaric low I.Q. mindset to the nation. Voters elected this guy.......so imagine how dumb his "constituents" are.


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When I said some of this shit during that fake ass food stamp challenge some of you all implied I didn't know what the fuck I was talking about.

:hmm:


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When I said some of this shit during that fake ass food stamp challenge some of you all implied I didn't know what the fuck I was talking about.

:hmm:


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Yogi, LOL

C'mon Bahr.

This thread is 3 years old Bahr, and you've only commented in it, once.


Thanks for your comments.


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