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DJANGO: est $62+ Million in first 6 days - thanks, Spike!
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Django budget was what ? $70-75 million .
In the black on the 2nd weekend domestically.
88 million.
Does his life story deserve a paraody? Anything other than the truth about what happened then is a mockery and subsequent obfuscation of white people's history in America
Oprah could make that movie but Hollywood wouldn't distribute it... You forgot what happened with George Lucas and RedTails this year?
nah - the 800 pound gorilla is why didn't Quentin set Inglorious Bastards during dutch and polish pogroms instead of Paris? or stage a jail break at Triblenka?
Fact is Hollywood would NEVER let that n1gg3r film that... but a spaghetti western in plantation slavery is ok, so next that dude can do a pirate movie ensuring passage for the slave ships...
The hood has been pulled WAY over the eyes of our last 2 generations... got cacs and self haters in this thread, trumpeting how much more was made than the black director, cheering a white man's success and earnings with glee like they getting a %...
How low, mutherfuckers? How low are y'all going keep falling???
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Have any of you seen the movie? Saw it today and liked it.
Niggas getting mad at QT, but it cost $83 million to do this film.
The fact that black folk in entertainment with their mansions and Buggattis can't pool together at least 1/4 of that to help put out Danny Glover's film independently is the REAL issue.
We got enough cash to put out at least one Django every year.
Fuck your anger.
The fact that black folk in entertainment with their mansions and Buggattis can't pool together at least 1/4 of that to help put out Danny Glover's film independently is the REAL issue.
We got enough cash to put out at least one Django every year.
Fuck your anger.
do we really have enough to start a new studio distribution network in the US? One powerful enough to break the existing agreements between the studios and the major chains like AMC National Amusments etc... Cause right now the Jews have that monopoly and are very effective at blocking movies and sabotaging feature releases.
How do you get investments for a movie without distribution, even if you decide to go direct to video ...
Stop being naive about the system in the US...
Yes we do.
It's called the black church.
How do you think TP built his audience for his shit movies?
You think the synagogues never played a part in pushing certain movies?
Why is everything, always, and forever based on envy?
Why would Spike have envy toward Tarantino's project?
You can see from these threads and multiple blogs that many black folks that are not in the film industry also shared a real contempt for this sort of project and how the period piece has been handled.
Let's be honest about this discussion by agreeing Tarantino knew there would be an audience for his movie.
He also knew there would be detractors.
He was quite comfortable making this movies and even had the prowess to speak with contempt about Roots the mini-series.
Tarantino has little regard to no regard for how black folks will react to his work.
His movies are clear and irrefutable evidence to his contempt for black people and black opinion.
Tarantino knew white folks will jump at the chance to see violence and brutally put upon black folks during slavery and how some black folks will jump at the chance to see a lone black man exact a little revenge.
Black folks are entertained with this shit and brush it off as being just a movie - entertainment.
How many of you same folks seeking cinema entertainment can say you saw Brokeback Mountain or Magic Mike during the opening week?
Those movies are just entertainment. Brokeback Mountain won critical acclaim.
Or is that type of shit not for you - you know - homo erotic love stories or dudes tantalizing chicks? Meanwhile, slavery based movies that feature black oppression and brutalization is just a slap happy good time.
How does a self loving and self respecting black man or black woman comfortably sit unaffected among a crowd of white folks that are laughing or snickering or being entertained as black folks are being fucked with by white folks.
That shit doesn't compute.
Lastly, Oprah helped Spike finance Malcolm X. What makes you think Spike wants to do a slavery movie.
Should he make Sandy Hook into a romantic comedy starring Brad Pitt and Renee Zellwenger, about a middle age, corky teacher that survived the shooting by offing Adam by hitting him in the back of the head with a stapler.
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and TP's shit film on average cost less than 20 million to make and promote...theres a bunch of reasons and issues that you have to consider when it comes to producing a film and not being white.
Crabs in a barrel black church?
same institution that time and again undermined the civil rights movement?
Can't get 5 pastors to agree on anything church?
TP built a following in the chitlin circuit, and then direct video sales... Church didn't do shit for him, he would still be doing the same thing if he had a positive message but because his shit is minstrel stuff Hollywood embraced him instead of blocking of him
Why is everything, always, and forever based on envy?
Why reason Spike has envy toward Tarantino's project?
You can see from these threads and multiple blogs that many black folks that are not in the film industry also shared a real contempt for this sort of project and how the period piece has been handled.
Let's be honest about this discussion by agreeing Tarantino knew there would be an audience for his movie.
He also knew there would be detractors.
He was quite comfortable making this movies and even had the prowess to speak with contempt about Roots the mini-series.
Tarantino has little regard to no regard for how black folks will react to his work.
His movies are clear and irrefutable evidence to his contempt for black people and black opinion.
Tarantino knew white folks will jump at the chance to see violence and brutally put upon black folks during slavery and how some black folks will jump at the chance to see a lone black man exact a little revenge.
Black folks are entertained with this shit and brush it off as being just a movie - entertainment.
How many of you same folks seeking cinema entertainment can say you saw Brokeback Mountain or Magic Mike during the opening week?
Those movies are just entertainment. Brokeback Mountain won critical acclaim.
Or is that type of shit not for you - you know - homo erotic love stories or dudes tantalizing chicks? Meanwhile, slavery based movies that feature black oppression and brutalization is just a slap happy good time.
How does a self loving and self respecting black man or black woman comfortably sit unaffected among a crowd of white folks that are laughing or snickering or being entertained as black folks are being fucked with by white folks.
That shit doesn't compute.
Lastly, Oprah helped Spike finance Malcolm X. What makes you think Spike wants to do a slavery movie.
Should he make Sandy Hook into a romantic comedy starring Brad Pitt and Renee Zellwenger, about a middle age, corky teacher that survived the shooting by offing Adam by hitting him in the back of the head with a stapler.
nah they dont hear you. Wish you could bring up this point on Billy Maher. I'd expect white people cosigning this movie, but my people? And defending it? Wow...
PRODUCTION BUDGETS:
Miracle at St. Anna: $45 MILLION (earned $9.1M)
Summer of Sam: $22M (earned $19.3M)
He Got Game: $25M (earned $21.6M)
http://www.the-numbers.com/person/83850401-Spike-Lee
Jackie Brown $12M (earned $72.7M)
Pulp Fiction: $8M (earned $212.9M)
Hostel: $4.8M (earned $81.7M)
http://www.the-numbers.com/person/140200401-Quentin-Tarantino
Miracle at St. Anna: $45 MILLION (earned $9.1M)
Summer of Sam: $22M (earned $19.3M)
He Got Game: $25M (earned $21.6M)
http://www.the-numbers.com/person/83850401-Spike-Lee
Jackie Brown $12M (earned $72.7M)
Pulp Fiction: $8M (earned $212.9M)
Hostel: $4.8M (earned $81.7M)
http://www.the-numbers.com/person/140200401-Quentin-Tarantino
again..whats your point?
Rick Ronson
Banned
nah spike didnt reach that many white people
and America is 17% or so black so
Im sure they appreciate you alls support they but didnt need it.
ill see it on bootleg this week like i said...i didnt mis out .
I never stood in lines for Jordans or the new iphone
No rush
Sorry i couldn't aid in making it a block buster slave movie.
Please forgive me for not playing my part.
and America is 17% or so black so
Im sure they appreciate you alls support they but didnt need it.
ill see it on bootleg this week like i said...i didnt mis out .
I never stood in lines for Jordans or the new iphone
No rush
Sorry i couldn't aid in making it a block buster slave movie.
Please forgive me for not playing my part.
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THE POINT is that apologists keep complaining about how Spike has never gotten the production budget to make the movies he wanted to make. I gave three very specific examples of Spike Lee joints with production budgets each over $20 Million that all failed miserably at the Box Office.
In contrast, I noted how QT put out three commerically successful movies that COMBINED cost less than $25M. This isn't even about QT - I could have just as easily pulled any three TP movies, since he AFAIK has never directed a film with a production budget over $20 Million.
If you can't do the math, you need a calculator. Or just keep moving the goalposts...
THE POINT is that apologists keep complaining about how Spike has never gotten the production budget to make the movies he wanted to make. I gave three very specific examples of Spike Lee joints with production budgets each over $20 Million that all failed miserably at the Box Office.
In contrast, I noted how QT put out three commerically successful movies that COMBINED cost less than $25M. This isn't even about QT - I could have just as easily pulled any three TP movies, since he AFAIK has never directed a film with a production budget over $20 Million.
If you can't do the math, you need a calculator. Or just keep moving the goalposts...
okay..
Spike lee personally is an extremely polarizing person and has been damn near since he came out in 1986. Dude has been pissing people off both black and white for a looong fucking time and the few big box office films he has had mainly hit based off the strength of his star actor Denzel Washington or for his earlier works because he was the new flavor at the time.
Tarantino has a different dynamic totally so comparing them is like comparing a white ball player in the major leagues vs a black ball player in the negro leagues and saying the white ball player is better because he plays in bigger stadiums and has won a couple of world series.
also I missed your response to holocaust/concentration films in the other thread but the list you posted doesn't have one film on it thats comparable to the level of Django.
Why is everything, always, and forever based on envy?
Why would Spike have envy toward Tarantino's project?
You can see from these threads and multiple blogs that many black folks that are not in the film industry also shared a real contempt for this sort of project and how the period piece has been handled.
Let's be honest about this discussion by agreeing Tarantino knew there would be an audience for his movie.
He also knew there would be detractors.
He was quite comfortable making this movies and even had the prowess to speak with contempt about Roots the mini-series.
Tarantino has little regard to no regard for how black folks will react to his work.
His movies are clear and irrefutable evidence to his contempt for black people and black opinion.
Tarantino knew white folks will jump at the chance to see violence and brutally put upon black folks during slavery and how some black folks will jump at the chance to see a lone black man exact a little revenge.
Black folks are entertained with this shit and brush it off as being just a movie - entertainment.
How many of you same folks seeking cinema entertainment can say you saw Brokeback Mountain or Magic Mike during the opening week?
Those movies are just entertainment. Brokeback Mountain won critical acclaim.
Or is that type of shit not for you - you know - homo erotic love stories or dudes tantalizing chicks? Meanwhile, slavery based movies that feature black oppression and brutalization is just a slap happy good time.
How does a self loving and self respecting black man or black woman comfortably sit unaffected among a crowd of white folks that are laughing or snickering or being entertained as black folks are being fucked with by white folks.
That shit doesn't compute.
Lastly, Oprah helped Spike finance Malcolm X. What makes you think Spike wants to do a slavery movie.
Should he make Sandy Hook into a romantic comedy starring Brad Pitt and Renee Zellwenger, about a middle age, corky teacher that survived the shooting by offing Adam by hitting him in the back of the head with a stapler.
Whites romaticize serious shit all the time and if you don't believe me watch FX's Rescue Me made some 3 years after 9/11.
Truth is we wouldn't be able to stomach any REAL portrayal of slave times.
Had Taratino made some REAL tragic shit, the backlash would be worse.
The 2nd season of American Horror Story deals with this chop shop nazi doctor who experimented on people in concentration camps turning them into monsters.
Now imagine if a film was made by QT and it was this tragic, this graphic. Even Spike wouldn't do this cuz his own people would worry about white folk ( who don't need a reason to snicker at you ) reactions.
Even 90's Malcolm X was pasteurized to death.
Take this movie for what it is, entertainment.
Whites romaticize serious shit all the time and if you don't believe me watch FX's Rescue Me made some 3 years after 9/11.
Truth is we wouldn't be able to stomach any REAL portrayal of slave times.
Had Taratino made some REAL tragic shit, the backlash would be worse.
The 2nd season of American Horror Story deals with this chop shop nazi doctor who experimented on people in concentration camps turning them into monsters.
Now imagine if a film was made by QT and it was this tragic, this graphic. Even Spike wouldn't do this cuz his own people would worry about white folk ( who don't need a reason to snicker at you ) reactions.
Even 90's Malcolm X was pasteurized to death.
Take this movie for what it is, entertainment.
It is known that Nazis did extensive medical experiments in the concentration camps, so that show isn't too far from the truth...
but please show me when the Jews romanticize the holocaust or allow anyone else to do so..
At the risk of playing spoiler, no one laughed at the mandigo scenes or the black slave getting ripped to shreds by dogs.
And Sam Jackson's character garnered little sympathy from anyone.
no one in YOUR audience..I've heard different reports on the net.
why put the worldwide gross. its 184 million
Just saw it 
For what it's worth I saw it in red state Alabama and you could hear a pin drop during those scenes. And there was a audible gasp from the audience especially this white woman sitting behind me during the DiCaprio scene at the end where he had a hammer to Kerry Washington's head.
And just one final observation at the criticism I see hurled at the movie that people seem to be missing, at least from my POV. It's not totally accurate to call this a parody of slavery because it makes it seem as if it is a parody of the plight of the slave experience. When what it is and actually did well was point out how ridiculous slavery was -- and insidious when it came to the Mandingo scenes. That it used humor during less weighty scenes to do it was what was provacotive.
But if you see it there wasn't one white person, save Christoph Waltz that came out looking good or particularly smart. Speaking strictly in a filmic sense it was the Jamie Foxx role who stood the strongest and had the audience cheering at the end. While the first act had humor built into the lead character it was anything but parody by the end.
And for perspective and clarity Dtown.. You just keep moving them goalposts.. Your first statement was "Tarantino doesn't gross much as a Director"..
That statement was smashed.
Now you're trying to make an argument about Gross vs. Net Profit... If that means anything, Tyler Perry is the greatest Director of all time..
Where you gon move the goalpost now?..
No, your point was Spike Lee was a "one hit wonder". I told you in Hollywood "hits" are determined by how much money you make at the box office.
FYI, Inside Man made 180 million. I said 100 million plus to be generous to your argument. It was nearly 200 million. And only cost 45 million to make.
And Kill Bill cost 55 million to produce and 40-50 million to market.
And last but not least, what does Tyler Perry being "the best director of all time" have to do with what we talking about?
John Carter, grossed over 250 million but it lost Disney 200 million dollars. So according to your silly ass logic since it made 250 million at box office it was a hit. Meanwhile, niggas at Disney got fired over that wack ass FLOP.
You're the one moving goal posts. If you don't understand the definition of a "box office hit" then what the fuck can I do for you? I can't do shit. All I can do is correct your ignorance and keep it moving.
In my theater, it was mixed black and white and the dog scene and mandingo fight scene had some people gasping with no laughter at all...as far as Sam Jackson, people laughed but I rarely did...I didn't find his Sambo-ish behavior funny at all...it was my most hated character of the movie really
The only ignorant motherfucker in this discussion is YOU.. I'm movinig goalposts?.. How you dumb motherfucker?.. I'm just responding to your bullshit.
Your original comment...
Which was 100% False... Now you're trying to discuss Gross vs. Net Profit?.. Mannnn, get the fuck outta here nigga.
Let's just look at the last two..
Inglorious Bastards.. $321,455,689 Gross - $70,000,000 Budget = $252,455,689 Net Profit
Kill Bill 1-2.. $333,108,506 Gross - $60,000,000 Budget = $273,108,506 Net Profit
QT has made more NET PROFIT just at the Box Office on his last two films than Spike has make Lifetime GROSS PROFIT his entire career x5!
Get your dumb ass the fuck outta here, and stop addressing me..
Your original comment...
Which was 100% False... Now you're trying to discuss Gross vs. Net Profit?.. Mannnn, get the fuck outta here nigga.
Let's just look at the last two..
Inglorious Bastards.. $321,455,689 Gross - $70,000,000 Budget = $252,455,689 Net Profit
Kill Bill 1-2.. $333,108,506 Gross - $60,000,000 Budget = $273,108,506 Net Profit
QT has made more NET PROFIT just at the Box Office on his last two films than Spike has make Lifetime GROSS PROFIT his entire career x5!
Get your dumb ass the fuck outta here, and stop addressing me..
im tired of these niggas talkin bout a move they aint seen...YOU can't debate the movie, you don't know what's in the shit.
Exactly !!! and Justine bieber's record grossed more than Dangelo or maxwell so Justin Bieber gotta be the prince of soul !! These ni99as !! Smdh
The only ignorant motherfucker in this discussion is YOU.. I'm movinig goalposts?.. How you dumb motherfucker?.. I'm just responding to your bullshit.
Your original comment...
Which was 100% False... Now you're trying to discuss Gross vs. Net Profit?.. Mannnn, get the fuck outta here nigga.
Let's just look at the last two..
Inglorious Bastards.. $321,455,689 Gross - $70,000,000 Budget = $252,455,689 Net Profit
Kill Bill 1-2.. $333,108,506 Gross - $60,000,000 Budget = $273,108,506 Net Profit
QT has made more NET PROFIT just at the Box Office on his last two films than Spike has make Lifetime GROSS PROFIT his entire career x5!
Get your dumb ass the fuck outta here, and stop addressing me..
You over here getting emotional for Taratino. You should be ashamed of yourself. He got your over here cussin' and getting emotional like a bitch on her period. Fuck outta here. What the fuck did Jackie Brown, Reservior Dogs, Grindhouse do? Were they hits?
Did you not make the statement Spike Lee was a One Hit Wonder? You keep talking about Tarantino. Fuck him. I'm speaking on Spike Lee. You said Spike Lee was a One Hit Wonder and I asked your dumbass how was he a one hit wonder when he's had numerous films make more than 30 million of its budget at box office? I don't expect for you to answer shit though. I'm not here to shit on you i'm just here to educate your dumb ignant ass. But like most dumb ignant asses its gonna go over your head.
What the fuck did Jackie Brown, Reservior Dogs, Grindhouse do? Were they hits?
Did you not make the statement Spike Lee was a One Hit Wonder? You keep talking about Tarantino. Fuck him. I'm speaking on Spike Lee. You said Spike Lee was a One Hit Wonder and I asked your dumbass how was he a one hit wonder when he's had numerous films make more than 30 million of its budget at box office? I don't expect for you to answer shit though. I'm not here to shit on you i'm just here to educate your dumb ignant ass. But like most dumb ignant asses its gonna go over your head.
Nigga you can't educate shit.. Just say "I lost" and go jump off a tall thing onto a hard place..
You tried to have a discussion about Net Profit, and you had no idea what the fuck you were talking about. You keep trying to move the goalposts to seem right about something, and you keep falling flat on your fucking face..
Spike Lee is a One Hit Wonder because he has ONE FILM that has had Worldwide commercial success. What don't you understand about that, dimwit?
You kept pulling Gross vs Net out your ass, you keep pulling Inside Man out your ass when Pulp Fiction alone shits all over it in Net..
$213,928,762 Gross - $8,000,000 Budget = $205,928,762 Net Profit *not adjusted for inflation
You tried to pretend that QT produces flops based on Net Gross, and it's bullshit. You started that argument after I proved that other quote of yours to be bullshit.
You can keep calling everyone else all the "dumb asses" you want, but it ain't hard for someone to read your posts and see who the dumb ass is here..
