Official Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez (with link)

seriously this is starting to agitate me..nigga couldn't do shit in 3 fights...comes in like a mexican gi joe and wastes this nigga like he ain't shit when naturally bigger fighters couldn't do it...im really agitated about this shit:angry:

Man, JMM gave Pac that work in fight 3 then got robbed:smh:
 
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shit that punch was deadly, thanks for the link,

hard to believe this is the same dude that Money Mayweather basically blanked round for round

styles make fights I guess, glad marquez got on, he definitely one RD3 imo
 
Not like Pacman has an iron chin either. Getting hit like that would put anyone down. Boxers always tell you it is the ones you don't see coming that are the worst... Pacman just got caught way out of position and at the very wrong time man on that KO.

In addition to that, but if you watch about 40 seconds prior to the KO, Marquez throws the same exact combination when Pacquaio tries the 1-2 when he's too close. Marquez positions himself on Manny's right, dips and lowers the boom. It lands, but not flush. It's amazing to see. Ignacio is one hell of a strategist.

I just moved JMM to #2 all-time Mexican fighter behind his retired stablemate the great Ricardo Lopez, Jr. I always thought RL was the better fighter than JCC*.
 
In addition to that, but if you watch about 40 seconds prior to the KO, Marquez throws the same exact combination when Pacquaio tries the 1-2 when he's too close. Marquez positions himself on Manny's right, dips and lowers the boom. It lands, but not flush. It's amazing to see..

Yep. I just got done watching the fight again. Pacman was extremely sloppy by even is own low standards in the 5th and 6th rounds.....and in the 6th Marquez just timed him because he kept throwing the same punch combination WHILE also leaning in..... That list time Marquez just timed it perfectly
 
seriously this is starting to agitate me..nigga couldn't do shit in 3 fights...comes in like a mexican gi joe and wastes this nigga like he ain't shit when naturally bigger fighters couldn't do it...im really agitated about this shit:angry:

It only agitates you cause your boy PAC went out like the sucker he always was

Jmm whooped manny's ass all 4 fights

It's just that Jmm didn't recognize that he wasn't going to win on a decision in a Manny fight because of crooked ass judges
 
Yep. I just got done watching the fight again. Pacman was extremely sloppy by even is own low standards in the 5th and 6th rounds.....and in the 6th Marquez just timed him because he kept throwing the same punch combination WHILE also leaning in..... That list time Marquez just timed it perfectly

Manny was too anxious for a knockout...strange for a professional of his caliber and another addition to the worrisome trend for Freddie Roach...although they have great respect for Marquez as a fighter, I get the impression they did not believe JMM could hurt him to that level
 
Manny was too anxious for a knockout...strange for a professional of his caliber

Manny always fights like that though. He's gets off-balance, lunges, and throws wild combos leaving himself completely exposed. That is perfect for a counterpuncher, Marquez finally just caught him with that perfect punch this time.

But you could see it coming, Manny was lazy and going to the same combo while lunging.... Manny just timed that shit perfectly.

Manny always fights out of control like that though. Manny is a brawler that evolved into a real puncher.... but he's not in the class of a marquez or mayweather.... this really is the 4th time Marquez beat him in my opinion. He's always "outboxed" Manny
 
Manny always fights like that though. He's gets off-balance, lunges, and throws wild combos leaving himself completely exposed. That is perfect for a counterpuncher, Marquez finally just caught him with that perfect punch this time.

But you could see it coming, Manny was lazy and going to the same combo while lunging.... Manny just timed that shit perfectly.

Manny always fights out of control like that though. Manny is a brawler that evolved into a real puncher.... but he's not in the class of a marquez or mayweather.... this really is the 4th time Marquez beat him in my opinion. He's always "outboxed" Manny

That particular sequence was especially bad...chin exposed go for the feint, feint fails...then attempt the exact same punch, chin still exposed
 
seriously this is starting to agitate me..nigga couldn't do shit in 3 fights...comes in like a mexican gi joe and wastes this nigga like he ain't shit when naturally bigger fighters couldn't do it...im really agitated about this shit:angry:

While it's possible that JMM might have been dirty (we'll see how the test results come out), this wouldn't be the first time one fighter popped his opponent who he couldn't knock out before. Paul Williams was known to have an iron jaw and fought all kinds of fighters including a 12 round firefight with Sergio Martinez but in the rematch with Martinez, he got caught and went to sleep.
The shot Marquez hit Pacquaio with was a knockout punch that he never got to hit him with in the first three fights.
 
That particular sequence was especially bad...chin exposed go for the feint, feint fails...then attempt the exact same punch, chin still exposed

Yeah. That was a KO waiting to happen. That was a damaging punch too man. Fighters typically never come back from punches like that. Gonna be interesting to see what happens in his next fight. Arum is going to try his hardest to make a part 5 for this.
 
Yeah. That was a KO waiting to happen. That was a damaging punch too man. Fighters typically never come back from punches like that. Gonna be interesting to see what happens in his next fight. Arum is going to try his hardest to make a part 5 for this.


After getting knocked out like this- as a fighter- you're never the same. A 5th fight would be the end of Pac's career; it's Tarver Roy Jones Jr. all over again. Mental advantage (huge part of the fight game) goes Manuel Marquez. Talk about being up in someone's head... whoa. Pac needs two fights in front of anything close to Marqeuz.

Pac know's definitively that Marquez can and will knock him out.
 
In addition to that, but if you watch about 40 seconds prior to the KO, Marquez throws the same exact combination when Pacquaio tries the 1-2 when he's too close. Marquez positions himself on Manny's right, dips and lowers the boom. It lands, but not flush. It's amazing to see. Ignacio is one hell of a strategist.

I just moved JMM to #2 all-time Mexican fighter behind his retired stablemate the great Ricardo Lopez, Jr. I always thought RL was the better fighter than JCC*.

This is so correct.....BODY POSITIONING and FOOT WORK go a long way in fights....

And this is also another reason why i enjoy watching the European commentators instead of those clowns on HBO. All night they were saying "look at Marquez, his goal is to keep his lead foot outside and to the right of Pacquiao's lead foot." Every time Marquez got tagged, they would run the replay and point specifically to that..... "look at JMM's feet.....look at their positioning.....INSIDE of manny's" this was done for spacing, and also to keep manny's power hand/punch (straight left hand) out of the fight. Marquez eliminated that left hand of Pacquiao.

Another thing....this complaint of sudden power by JMM.....first off Pacquiao came in 4 lbs heavier than JMM. also, like someone else said (except he was off a tad in his assessment) you can tell the casual fan vs the hardcore boxing fan. The punches that hurt the most, that knock you out are the ones you never see coming and are well placed (accurate). Manny never saw that punch coming.....by the time he saw it, all he could do was say aaahhhhhhh and eat that bitch....and as far as accuracy, you see the results from the punch.....that's a DREAM punch, right on the button.

look at this video....B-Hop said it best.....it's a lot of knowledge on here, but start at 1:05 mark to see what I'm saying....

"a accurate punch feels like a hard punch, because of the shock"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHwPBTDDp00&feature=youtube_gdata_player


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and as far as accuracy, you see the results from the punch.....that's a DREAM punch, right on the button.

You'll almost never see a great defensive fighter get hit like that because they rarely get out of position like that.
 
You'll almost never see a great defensive fighter get hit like that because they rarely get out of position like that.

EXACTLY my point.....Mayweather would never in a million fights get caught like that.....

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