- The latest word on John Cena's injury is that he's recovering slowly from the elbow surgery. It remains to be seen if Cena will be ready for Hell In a Cell and may end up being a "down to the wire" decision. It was expected that WWE would have a solid answer on Monday's RAW but that's not confirmed.

- One idea that was discussed at RAW this past week was to have Cena be the special referee for CM Punk vs. Ryback at Hell In a Cell, if they have to go with Ryback as the challenger.

HIAC is going to have a bad buyrate regardless of if Cena's wrestling or not, so what's the point of having him referee the match if he can't go ????
 
- The latest word on John Cena's injury is that he's recovering slowly from the elbow surgery. It remains to be seen if Cena will be ready for Hell In a Cell and may end up being a "down to the wire" decision. It was expected that WWE would have a solid answer on Monday's RAW but that's not confirmed.

- One idea that was discussed at RAW this past week was to have Cena be the special referee for CM Punk vs. Ryback at Hell In a Cell, if they have to go with Ryback as the challenger.

HIAC is going to have a bad buyrate regardless of if Cena's wrestling or not, so what's the point of having him referee the match if he can't go ????

It should have been Foley vs. Punk. Ryback is green as grass and will end up fucking Punk up in that cage and then another star will be out.
 
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I agree Sting should turn heel he's been a face for 15 years (unless i missed a heel turn). It'll breathe new life into his character.

I also like the deal of WWE bringing back the Europe title for Europe only.
 
It should have been Foley vs. Punk. Ryback is green as grass and will end up fucking Punk up in that cage and then another star will be out.

Man, that would be awesome but they would have to give Mick like 6 months notice to get into wrestling shape.

I agree Sting should turn heel he's been a face for 15 years (unless i missed a heel turn). It'll breathe new life into his character.

I also like the deal of WWE bringing back the Europe title for Europe only.

He's had some heel turns but they were all under Russo and they all sucked so bad, they turned him back at the first chance.




If you saw/read about the ROH iPPV tonight, you know it was incredible and if you were Black, you won your match. Cedric Alexander and Caprice Coleman won the opener. Jay Lethal beat Davey Richards :eek:! Benjamin and Haas beat Whitmer and Titus. And even some young guy named Tadarius Thomas beat Rhino. So many Black wrestlers won, I thought Bill Watts and Ernie Ladd were running the show.
 
I agree Sting should turn heel he's been a face for 15 years (unless i missed a heel turn). It'll breathe new life into his character.

I also like the deal of WWE bringing back the Europe title for Europe only.

Sting had a brief heel turn in WCW and also the Main Event Mafia thing.
 
If you saw/read about the ROH iPPV tonight, you know it was incredible and if you were Black, you won your match. Cedric Alexander and Caprice Coleman won the opener. Jay Lethal beat Davey Richards :eek:! Benjamin and Haas beat Whitmer and Titus. And even some young guy named Tadarius Thomas beat Rhino. So many Black wrestlers won, I thought Bill Watts and Ernie Ladd were running the show.

Most of it made sense though Lethal beating Richards is a surprise and I've never even heard of Tadarius Thomas before tonight. I'm interested in seeing how long it takes to undo the damage that Cornette has done. Good to see that Generico is on his way back and maybe we'll see Cabana and others like Homicide return to regular spots as well.
 
Most of it made sense though Lethal beating Richards is a surprise and I've never even heard of Tadarius Thomas before tonight. I'm interested in seeing how long it takes to undo the damage that Cornette has done. Good to see that Generico is on his way back and maybe we'll see Cabana and others like Homicide return to regular spots as well.

Don't expect too many changes. Old ROH is dead and that's not a bad thing in some ways if they want to expand their audience, no different than Vince losing all of older WWWF fans to take the WWF national.
 
The problem with the WCW heel turn was, the crowd turned with him :lol:



Hogan must have had a say in that bullshit because it was completely overbooked and nonsensical. So 4 other people had to get involved including 3 heels who other than Luger had absolutely no affiliation with Sting in order for Hogan to lose. And even then the stuff with that bat happened in plain view of the ref who counted the fall while Luger was still in the ring with a bat in his hand.

The crowd turned because the whole thing was some bullshit.
 
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Hogan must have had a say in that bullshit because it was completely overbooked and nonsensical. So 4 other people had to get involved including 3 heels who other than Luger had absolutely no affiliation with Sting in order for Hogan to lose. And even then the stuff with that bat happened in plain view of the view who counted the fall while Luger was still in the ring with a bat in his hand.

The crowd turned because the whole thing was some bullshit.

It was some bullshit, and this was definitely Hogans "creative control" in full effect. In WCW Sting was way to popular for a heel turn to work. If it was in the wwf/e it would have worked, but WCW will always be Sting's house, and they underestimated his popularity vs Hogans. I know back then I was damn glad to see him not only take the title from HH, but also smack that bastard wit the bat. :dance:
 
If you saw/read about the ROH iPPV tonight, you know it was incredible and if you were Black, you won your match. Cedric Alexander and Caprice Coleman won the opener. Jay Lethal beat Davey Richards :eek:! Benjamin and Haas beat Whitmer and Titus. And even some young guy named Tadarius Thomas beat Rhino. So many Black wrestlers won, I thought Bill Watts and Ernie Ladd were running the show.

Damn you sure you wasn't watching Urban Wrestling Federation? Well Delirious booking the ROH shows now.

ROH is still on it's death bed IMO, TNA Overseas market is improving but I'm waiting for a syndicated "B" show for us U.S. fans.
 
It was some bullshit, and this was definitely Hogans "creative control" in full effect. In WCW Sting was way to popular for a heel turn to work. If it was in the wwf/e it would have worked, but WCW will always be Sting's house, and they underestimated his popularity vs Hogans. I know back then I was damn glad to see him not only take the title from HH, but also smack that bastard wit the bat. :dance:

Wasn't Russo there by then? Either way, that shit was a mess.
It took Hogan over ten years to finally put Sting over properly without the bullshit.

Damn you sure you wasn't watching Urban Wrestling Federation? Well Delirious booking the ROH shows now.

ROH is still on it's death bed IMO, TNA Overseas market is improving but I'm waiting for a syndicated "B" show for us U.S. fans.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Corny's still working as a consultant and he was just removed so this is probably still mostly his product.
ROH is alright but I do think they need to not only follow their tv but still go to markets where they don't have tv but have a loyal fanbase, like Philly.
Not being a dvd driven company anymore, they had to change the entire way they develop storylines and characters.

And someone tell Kevin Steen to lose some fucking weight.
 
I had thought having Joey Ryan as Tara's "Hollywood boyfriend" would be a good way to have him in two notable storylines at once and instantly making him a player but it looks to be John Morrison and that's alright too.
 
Wasn't Russo there by then? Either way, that shit was a mess.
It took Hogan over ten years to finally put Sting over properly without the bullshit.



:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Corny's still working as a consultant and he was just removed so this is probably still mostly his product.
ROH is alright but I do think they need to not only follow their tv but still go to markets where they don't have tv but have a loyal fanbase, like Philly.
Not being a dvd driven company anymore, they had to change the entire way they develop storylines and characters.

And someone tell Kevin Steen to lose some fucking weight.

ROH has a ways to go as the last year and a half has set them back. And with Strong leaving Martini and Rhyno losing as well I guess Delirious may be severing ties with some of Cornette's additions while bringing back some people who left under Cornette's charge.

I agree with Steen. Really all he needs to do is lose the huge beer belly because he can go with anybody and delivers consistently in the ring.
It annoys me that Samoa Joe is still fat after decades of pro wrestling.


Some guys don't have the framework to be slim and Joe is one of them. It's in large part while Joe's reign in the X division was so remarkable.
 
I had thought having Joey Ryan as Tara's "Hollywood boyfriend" would be a good way to have him in two notable storylines at once and instantly making him a player but it looks to be John Morrison and that's alright too.

guess that means morrison wont be coming back to WWE then(was rumored that he was at one point)
 
I just watched the B4G PPV and realized that I just can't get into the TNA product...I thought the Devon angle was a cool but they should have done more with it....the Storm/Rhodes match was great....but i just cant buy TNA....some nice moves but it all looks done before....as for ROH...I've caught a couple of shows on TV...and I haven't been all that impressed with that product either.....
 
I just watched the B4G PPV and realized that I just can't get into the TNA product...I thought the Devon angle was a cool but they should have done more with it....the Storm/Rhodes match was great....but i just cant buy TNA....some nice moves but it all looks done before....as for ROH...I've caught a couple of shows on TV...and I haven't been all that impressed with that product either.....

Honestly the last year of ROH has been that company at its worst.
 
Just read that too and that would have been cool if Devon had been revealed and then immediately him and Bully Ray pull off a 3D. Otherwise it was just a big disappointment.

Sucks from a big name standpoint but not from an angle standpoint. Dude got fucked on his contract. he was also the mole. It makes sense. I was more mad that Daniels and Kazarian lost, but was happy that Joe and RVD won.

It annoys me that Samoa Joe is still fat after decades of pro wrestling.

"I wouldn't go so far as to call the brother fat. I mean, he got a weight problem. What's the nigga gonna do, he's Samoan."
 
I was more mad that Daniels and Kazarian lost.

Good PPV but TWTTCOTW are ratings gold! About time they bought up Jesse Godderz he's been in OVW for a minute. If TNA was smart they'll bring in Chris Silvio from OVW as Joey Ryans tag partner. Good to see Matt Morgan back he look anti-TNA. D-Von looks like the A&8's enforcer the leader hasn't been revealed in pro wrestling a stable of 5 is good, more than 5 water down things (ex. NWO). I miss D'angelo Dinero (when he returns) deserve a TNA title run of some sort.
 
It was some bullshit, and this was definitely Hogans "creative control" in full effect. In WCW Sting was way to popular for a heel turn to work. If it was in the wwf/e it would have worked, but WCW will always be Sting's house, and they underestimated his popularity vs Hogans. I know back then I was damn glad to see him not only take the title from HH, but also smack that bastard wit the bat. :dance:

speak for yourselves man,Hogan was and always will be the greatest face in wrestling history like it or not. Sting is kool as hell don't get me wrong! But I believe the crowd turning with him is for that reason alone. Not cause anybody disliked Hogan..:smh:
 
ROH has a ways to go as the last year and a half has set them back. And with Strong leaving Martini and Rhyno losing as well I guess Delirious may be severing ties with some of Cornette's additions while bringing back some people who left under Cornette's charge.

You know who I can't get into? Truth Martini. I just don't see him as a good manager. One thing ROH needs is some more talent on the manager side.
How the hell is James Mitchell still not employed?

I agree with Steen. Really all he needs to do is lose the huge beer belly because he can go with anybody and delivers consistently in the ring.
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Yeah he can. He looked like he had dropped some weight when he first came back but now he just looks like a fucking slob with his big belly and buggy whip arms. He needs to do like Bubba Ray and give Scott Steiner a call and get into shape.

DEVON??????:eek::eek::eek::eek:

I know, right? I knew who he was when he hit that spinebuster but it was still a shock and how many things are really shocking in wrestling anymore?

Just read that too and that would have been cool if Devon had been revealed and then immediately him and Bully Ray pull off a 3D. Otherwise it was just a big disappointment.

I watched it, it wasn't a disappointment and even the live crowd was :eek: with some starting a "This is awkward!" chant.
I was hoping Bully would side with him but it still turned out pretty cool.

Sucks from a big name standpoint but not from an angle standpoint. Dude got fucked on his contract. he was also the mole. It makes sense. I was more mad that Daniels and Kazarian lost, but was happy that Joe and RVD won.
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With them not having really any other solid heel teams and Daniels and Kaz being so good, they should get the belts back. The way TNA has handled Chavo should be seen as an advertisment for WWE talent that think they're being neglected or used poorly (pick one, any one not named Cena, Punk, or Orton).

speak for yourselves man,Hogan was and always will be the greatest face in wrestling history like it or not. Sting is kool as hell don't get me wrong! But I believe the crowd turning with him is for that reason alone. Not cause anybody disliked Hogan..:smh:

Nah man. Hogan's the biggest name ever but he's not the greatest face. WCW fans didn't take to Hogan until he turned heel and once he turned back, we went right back to either indifference or outright disdain.
Turning Sting heel at the expense of Hogan wasn't going to work in WCW because WCW fans always, always loved Sting. He was the one guy who never left.

my guess is the leader is jeff jarrett..or theyll probably take the easy way out and have either eric bischoff or even dixie carter be the leader :rolleyes:

That would kill the angle which just got a strong shot in the arm with the Devon reveal.

Seeing how hot that crowd was for Aries, they might have to put the belt back on him.

Jesse Godderz being Tara's boyfriend was deflating but that has more to do with the way they hyped it. It would have worked better to have him show up with her for her pre match promo and walk her to the ring instead of the big entrance that fell flat. If the new talent isn't a big name, they shouldn't treat him like he is.
 
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You know who I can't get into? Truth Martini. I just don't see him as a good manager. One thing ROH needs is some more talent on the manager side.
How the hell is James Mitchell still not employed?

Listened to his interview on The Art of Wrestling with Colt Cabana and this is his first time being a manager. Prior to that it was strictly wrestling and running his school. He also broke his neck in his 1rst wrestling match.
As for Mitchell I don't get it either. I guess no company has a character that they feel best clicks with Mitchell's strengths.

Yeah he can. He looked like he had dropped some weight when he first came back but now he just looks like a fucking slob with his big belly and buggy whip arms. He needs to do like Bubba Ray and give Scott Steiner a call and get into shape.

That may work. I'll say this about ROH. The big guys there always appear heavier than they are from Steen and Elgin to Castagnoli before them.


With them not having really any other solid heel teams and Daniels and Kaz being so good, they should get the belts back. The way TNA has handled Chavo should be seen as an advertisment for WWE talent that think they're being neglected or used poorly (pick one, any one not named Cena, Punk, or Orton).

That title change made no sense. If they had to drop the belts it should have been to Angle and Styles, the team that they had battled multiple times not the newer team that had minimal buildup who the audience wasn't invested in.

Nah man. Hogan's the biggest name ever but he's not the greatest face. WCW fans didn't take to Hogan until he turned heel and once he turned back, we went right back to either indifference or outright disdain.
Turning Sting heel at the expense of Hogan wasn't going to work in WCW because WCW fans always, always loved Sting. He was the one guy who never left.

The problem with Hogan particularly in WCW as a face was all the goofy shit they did. The Dungeon of Doom for instance. :smh: Him fighting with The Giant on a roof only for The Giant to fall off. :smh: Crap like that wore out his welcome along with his unwillingness to do the job let alone to do it without a ton of people getting involved.

That would kill the angle which just got a strong shot in the arm with the Devon reveal.

Seeing how hot that crowd was for Aries, they might have to put the belt back on him.

The less that they do with Dixie the better. She can't act. And in light of all the crap with her losing the company and getting it back it wouldn't make any sense.
I'm surprised that Hardy got the belt. If anything I figured Aries would lose it to Bully Ray at this point.

Jesse Godderz being Tara's boyfriend was deflating but that has more to do with the way they hyped it. It would have worked better to have him show up with her for her pre match promo and walk her to the ring instead of the big entrance that fell flat. If the new talent isn't a big name, they shouldn't treat him like he is.[/QUOTE]

Exactly her big Hollywood boyfriend was a guy that 95% of the audience has no clue about.
 
Bald - check
Intense - check
Undefeated streak - check
Name/Catch Phrase chanted by crowd - check
Title shot in atlanta - check

Where have I seen this before???


:hmm:
 
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