Alex Smith apologists go fuck yourselves!

[l9ikjam]

as i have said from day 1 our line is great at run blocking
and average at pass blocking

alex has to get rid of it immediately or run for his life
nothing more on display than today

last week he actually had time and threw it down the field
he isn't scared to do it he simply doesn't have the time.

kap didn't and doesn't have the time to do it either

also running option reads with alex why are we running option reads?????

also

running play action when gore and hunter only had 12 carries between them? and both averaged over 4 yards a carry?

and the game was not out of hand until midway end of 3rd quarter but they refused to run the ball.

there's so much more to it

Compared to Philly and Chicago Alex Smith has a pro bowl line. Smith whole game is to throw dump off passes and hope the receivers can break out a long run. Vernon Davis got shut down because of him getting double teamed but you would think the coach would play Moss more considering he's still drawing double teams that's taking pressure off of Davis

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Indeed, but for whatever reason largebillsonlyplease wants to believe it's the line and not Alex himself even though I clearly implicated he overlooked or ignored Moss or any deep route receiver when he does have time while Kaep in just a few passes has looked or connected on the deep routes.​

so why did kap get sacked

Compared to Philly and Chicago Alex Smith has a pro bowl line. Smith whole game is to throw dump off passes and hope the receivers can break out a long run. Vernon Davis got shut down because of him getting double teamed but you would think the coach would play Moss more considering he's still drawing double teams that's taking pressure off of Davis

that's just simply not true
look at the tape does he make every read correctly no?
are you trying to say if he messes up a read he should be benched? yup most people are.

and as i said the line is great for running and average for pass blocking


and the problem in philly and chicago is the same
when they run deep ass routes for no reason
and when they don't run the ball
giants ran the ball 30+ times today

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

It is cause Alex doesn't read the field. He is going to his first option damn near every time and that is it.

its funny cause on one int he misread the coverage
and then tried to look off the safety
and then go back to the other side to complete the pass

but doing all of that means that it was his 1st option all along?


fucking hilarious yall are.

soon as someone is open he's throwing it because he has to.

any other qb in the nfl throws it to the 1st person that's open and its good he's getting rid of it quick

not alex though

 

[LoneStar]

Yes that is what happened.

I keep saying that he doesn't read shit. Let me be more specific, he only tries to read once that first option is not there. And as we can see he can't do it.

On that play he was trying to look off the safeties. That means he is trying to get them to lean one way making them think he is going that way then throw to the other. Which is the way the play is designed.

If he was reading the defense and then decided to throw the ball into triple coverage what would you call that?

If he was reading he wouldn't have made the throw. He more than likely would have been sacked instead of the pick.

Rolle picked up on this tendency and picked him twice. Hell the pick I am speaking off he threw it right to him, with three DB surrounding the wr.

Also, ya'll need to stop saying that the O.C. is trying to be cute.

If you was really paying attention you would be able to see that that is our offense, well our pass offense I should say. They call plays that are designed to get that one option open. At least all of our big pass plays are like that.

All the others are five to eight yard routes which you don't have to be all the creative with. Again with Smith going to the first option.

Look harder on Thursday, pay attention don't just watch the game.

And yes if any other QB throws to the "first open" man as you see it that is good. For Alex if that was what he was doing it would be good too but that isn't what he is doing. Damn near all of the other 31 QB can make throws to the second, third and sometimes fourth receiver that is open when that first option isn't.

 

[bighurt2k7]

I been saying this for how long? Only to have largebills and others make up excuswe after excuse. He's a mid/bottom tier QB at best.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Yes that is what happened.

I keep saying that he doesn't read shit. Let me be more specific, he only tries to read once that first option is not there. And as we can see he can't do it.

you keep saying that but that don't make it true.
how much time does he have to let plays develop or make long reads? last week he had loads of protection.

On that play he was trying to look off the safeties. That means he is trying to get them to lean one way making them think he is going that way then throw to the other. Which is the way the play is designed.

If he was reading the defense and then decided to throw the ball into triple coverage what would you call that?

his decision to do it, you act like no other qb throws into coverage you act like he can't make an errant throw
this is the problem
if he does good then its so what
if he messes up then its i told you
if he misses a play then you say see he can't do it ever
if he makes them then no words

If he was reading he wouldn't have made the throw. He more than likely would have been sacked instead of the pick.

right because there was no time there rarely any time all day
or did kap come in on his passes and find the time?

he read the coverage wrong which happens and threw an interception
like you dudes be laying in the cut waiting for him to fuck up hoping and wishing.

last week not 1 post was made about alex smith not fucking 1

Rolle picked up on this tendency and picked him twice. Hell the pick I am speaking off he threw it right to him, with three DB surrounding the wr.

as if eli didn't throw it right to rogers twice but rogers dropped both of them

Also, ya'll need to stop saying that the O.C. is trying to be cute.

If you was really paying attention you would be able to see that that is our offense, well our pass offense I should say. They call plays that are designed to get that one option open. At least all of our big pass plays are like that.

no it is not. shuffling kap in is fucking up the flow of the offense he should only be in on red zone situation to switch things up there is a reason why switching qb's frequently doesn't work on any damn level that is being too cute.

and all of our big pass plays didn't work today because when we could have run the ball we did not
instead we play action passed which fooled nobody because we never ran the damn ball how you play action with no run?

how does gore and hunter oly have 12 carries between them?
he is being too cute and trying to do all this other shit to the detriment of the game
why are the giants out rushing us in yards and attempts?

why aren't we running it we had plent of opportunity before the game got out of hand

why not after an interception and back in our territory why not run the ball create short 3rd downs?

All the others are five to eight yard routes which you don't have to be all the creative with. Again with Smith going to the first option.

run better routes run more wr's run different plays....

why wouldn't we run a screen play? not 1 the entire game with the giants de and line pinning their ears back to try and sack the qb why wouldn't they run 1?

why would they take alex out after a big completion to moss down the field
which nobody had shit to say about which is hilarious because if kap had thrown that it would be the highlight of your argument for kap being in there.

and then why would kap keep getting sacked too?

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I been saying this for how long? Only to have largebills and others make up excuswe after excuse. He's a mid/bottom tier QB at best.

im not making excuses for anyone i call it how i see it
you clearly hate dude and give him NO CREDIT for anything
he had the worst game he's had in 2 years and you act like you enjoy it

like i said last week when he threw for 300 yards and we ran for 300 yards none of you said a single word none of you

but when something negative happens
you all appear.

 

[bighurt2k7]

im not making excuses for anyone i call it how i see it
you clearly hate dude and give him NO CREDIT for anything
he had the worst game he's had in 2 years and you act like you enjoy it

like i said last week when he threw for 300 yards and we ran for 300 yards none of you said a single word none of you

but when something negative happens
you all appear.

I'm in every thread, so don't give me that "when something negative happens you all appear." nonsense.

I give him credit for playing well. That Bills game he played well but the Bills were shit. Our receivers were burning their DB's and had big cushions. Yes, he played well...don't you think 20+ other QB's could have done the same, though? Especially with 300+ yards rushing?

I always said the guy was limited. He may have a good game here and there, but he's limited and this game is a clear example of that.

You defend him to the death.

I don't enjoy losing one bit. I don't enjoy having to look at this dude on the field.

If you think I'm happy when we lose, you're crazy. I'm pissed as fuck.

Dude is not good, period.

How many good QB's do you know of that have to share time with a backup especially on key plays?

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I'm in every thread, so don't give me that "when something negative happens you all appear." nonsense.

its not nonsense and it wasn't directed at you personally.

I give him credit for playing well. That Bills game he played well but the Bills were shit. Our receivers were burning their DB's and had big cushions. Yes, he played well...don't you think 20+ other QB's could have done the same, though? Especially with 300+ yards rushing?

see there is that but, how many did the cards put up today?
the bills have actually won games... brady lit them up, what an offensive performance
we lit them up then everyone could do it... see what i mean?

and yes with 300 yards rushing which is the point. in order to be successful we need to have BALANCE in order to have balance we need to attempt to run the ball.
we had plenty of chances before we got down big to do so and didn't do it.

I always said the guy was limited. He may have a good game here and there, but he's limited and this game is a clear example of that.

what's funny is a good game here and there when last year we were 13-3 he actually won a playoff game and actually didn't lost the nfc championship for us.

came out and when he plays well we win, just like any other team in the nfl when he plays bad we don't

he isn't limited the coordinators are on some other shit at the moment and i don't get it.
the offense was working it was beginning to gel
run, couple of other play designs and some play action deep routes
the texans don't run ANYTHING complicated they literally have the same offense they've had for eons
they run it and then do play action passes and if it don't work he throws it away...

we can run
we can play action pass we have enough wr's to spread it out and one thing we never do is run screens which always work when we do them
the coordinators are limiting the offense trying to be cute not because he isn't able to do a lot.

You defend him to the death.

i don't if the shits on him i say it. i said he messed up he had a bad game its mostly on him its not entirely on him though and that's fact.

special teams let us down AGAIN
big returns to start the 2nd half when we could have gotten a 3 and out putting the defense in a hole.
akers missing 2 field goals that keep the game 10-3 instead of 10-9 at the half which is an entirely different game

coordinators not calling run plays to cool the de's who were pinning their ears back and pass rushing exclusively... they didn't even try and stop the run from the beginning. and they never did we just didn't run.

not running screens

shuffling qb's that shit does not work it doesn't in and out it doesn't work putting kap in on goal line sure but the other times why?
none of the things he did worked this week
and he played the most snaps he's played all season...

I don't enjoy losing one bit. I don't enjoy having to look at this dude on the field.

there you have it. who would you rather look at?
kap who has just as much limited time and clearly isn't ready to start?

If you think I'm happy when we lose, you're crazy. I'm pissed as fuck.

Dude is not good, period.

to you
he's fine to me he had a horrible game you dudes so damn spoiled

he had 8 td's and 1int the entire season only 2 t.o.'s hadn't thrown multiple int's since 2010
still didn't throw 5 like romo
was under constant pressure all day
had been playing literally flawless and yall still nitpicking on this dude like he's out there throwing an int a game which is pretty much what every other qb in the nfl does.. not multiples but they throw their 1
he's been running the offense and he has a horrible game and its see i told you so
when he does good he does bad to yall its crazy to me.

do you think you see something the coaches dont?

How many good QB's do you know of that have to share time with a backup especially on key plays?

one has nothing to do with the other.
it has everything to do with them trying to outsmart everyone and trying to try shit that doesn't work
this is the nfl why are we running the option read? because we saw other teams doing it?
we're not other teams why are the teams that beat us the teams that did what we were supposed to do but went away from the shit?

eli had 199 yards 1td and should've thrown 2 int but rogers was too busy talking shit instead of focusing on the game

bradshaw ran for 100 yards but they ran it 30 times

why are teams taking our blueprint for how to win in the nfl and using it on us?

why wouldn't we use it right back?

its funny
2 losses
we tried to be cute and went away from what we do and from how we play
run
play action
spread
screens
kap in inside the red zone to create options and that's it

that's the formula for us winning every single team we play
nobody can stop it

but when they try the other shit the shit that is not us
we fuck up.

and again its not limiting the offense cause you can throw deep routes in spread and on play action passes
you can run more than 2 wr's into an 8 man zone and then wonder why alex checks down when the line is letting 3 men in and everything else is zoned up

 

[LoneStar]

you keep saying that but that don't make it true.
how much time does he have to let plays develop or make long reads? last week he had loads of protection.

Of course it does, like the old saying goes...the eye in the sky don't lie(that's the game film if you don't know). Pay attention to what he does, don't just watch the game. If you was really paying attention you would see it too.

It don't matter how much time he has, he doesn't drop back and read.

Last week was against a horrible defense all around and even then there wasn't any reading. Yes he had time, the play developed and he threw to the FIRST option.


his decision to do it, you act like no other qb throws into coverage you act like he can't make an errant throw
this is the problem
if he does good then its so what
if he messes up then its i told you
if he misses a play then you say see he can't do it ever
if he makes them then no words

It isn't his decision, he is coached like others, to look off the safety. But in this case he throws the ball before even looking, knowing where the route is going but not seeing that it is triple covered.

Your wrong about him doing good(with me anyway). When he does something good that means the team is doing good.
If he does good...good job, now do it again but history shows he will do more bad than good.

Just cause he hasn't been throwing int's and his QB rating was good doesn't mean he hasn't been doing a lot of bad.


right because there was no time there rarely any time all day
or did kap come in on his passes and find the time?

he read the coverage wrong which happens and threw an interception
like you dudes be laying in the cut waiting for him to fuck up hoping and wishing.

last week not 1 post was made about alex smith not fucking 1

We not talking about Kap. but if we were I would say I saw more good than bad out of him. Not having time and taking sacks is different from not making throws or making bad ones(not talking about int's). Yes our o-line needs to do better but guess what. All QB's for the most part don't have time but yet they make plays through-out their games.

Sacks happen, pressure happens, but can a QB move in the pocket and not panic once he feels it and make plays anyway. A. Smith? Nope!

I didn't see one, you should have made it. If there was one I would have said his performance was fools-gold. Great game against a horrible defense but it wouldn't have fooled me. We see how he played this week.

as if eli didn't throw it right to rogers twice but rogers dropped both of them

He sure did, it happens. But what about his other throws, you know the ones that moved the ball down the field and into the endzone? Against our defense?


no it is not. shuffling kap in is fucking up the flow of the offense he should only be in on red zone situation to switch things up there is a reason why switching qb's frequently doesn't work on any damn level that is being too cute.

Your focusing on the shuffling of qb's, I'm not talking about that. My comments was about our pass play selection and how they are executed.

I have no problem with them switching qb's at this point but I do have a problem with how they did it. They fucked up this week doing it on second downs, instead of doing it on first downs like they have done the previous two weeks.

Oh and there has been only one team to win a SB with horrible or should I say a game manager of a QB so would you say that frequently doesn't work too. Cause that is what we are working with.


and all of our big pass plays didn't work today because when we could have run the ball we did not
instead we play action passed which fooled nobody because we never ran the damn ball how you play action with no run?

Yes we should have ran the ball more but that is not why the big pass plays wasn't there


how does gore and hunter oly have 12 carries between them?
he is being too cute and trying to do all this other shit to the detriment of the game
why are the giants out rushing us in yards and attempts?

Don't know why they didn't run the ball more but I shouldn't have to answer and you shouldn't have to ask why the giants had more attempts or yards for that matter.


why aren't we running it we had plent of opportunity before the game got out of hand

You should know this one too.

why not after an interception and back in our territory why not run the ball create short 3rd downs?

Once teams get down, alot of times the game plan changes. Especially when they are down ten plus and the offense has been struggling.

run better routes run more wr's run different plays....

They do all of that every game, but what you are not getting for whatever reason is the limits our QB.

why wouldn't we run a screen play? not 1 the entire game with the giants de and line pinning their ears back to try and sack the qb why wouldn't they run 1?

When was the last time you seen this offense run a screen play? I'm talking in the Harbaugh era.

why would they take alex out after a big completion to moss down the field
which nobody had shit to say about which is hilarious because if kap had thrown that it would be the highlight of your argument for kap being in there.

and then why would kap keep getting sacked too?


For a change of pace. It shouldn't be hilarious to you cause if it was a better pass, meaning if he would have lead him and he didn't have to wait for it it could have gone for more.

And if Kap would have made that throw it wouldn't be the only reason I would want to see him in there, it is all of the other throws that he made that makes me want to see him in there.

Like you have said yourself, our o-line is not that good in pass protection so yeah he is going to take sacks too. Sacks are going to happen I don't know why you keep bring them up.

...

 

[bighurt2k7]

I'm not going to reply to everything you posted, largebills. But look at the Bills game, man. They were fucking awful. They played a terrible stretch. Got slaughtered at home by the Pats, then came out to SF and got raped. The D was atrocious. ZERO pass rush and their corners were getting burned. We rushed for 300+ yards, man. Alex had a career game. Good for him. Fact of the matter is he's been bad in 3 of the last 4 games. He needs to be more consistent.

Arizona's offense is pathetic and they're using their 3rd string RB...and then there's that Kolb guy.

 

[1900KiLLa]

Alex played like a fucking college freshman today.. Smfh

 

[Thrill3Seeker]

Bump.

Mother-FUCK Alex Smith.

 

[Dr. Truth]

Randy moss wide open in the endzone. Randy gonna act a fool in about 2 to 3 weeks about how shitty smith is. He's been open all year.

 

[lexdiamonnyc]

Bump.

Mother-FUCK Alex Smith.

did he throw a touchdown?




wow! how very impressive.....


and he did it to an elite team like the Seahawks....

 

[Complex]

Dudes writing paragraphs about Alex Smith

He doesn't deserve that much support.

 

[D-TOWN REP]

Randy moss wide open in the endzone. Randy gonna act a fool in about 2 to 3 weeks about how shitty smith is. He's been open all year.

Randy Moss knew what he was signing up for

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Randy moss wide open in the endzone. Randy gonna act a fool in about 2 to 3 weeks about how shitty smith is. He's been open all year.

what a punk move

moss has not been open all year i don't know what you been watching
they showed moss open tonight 1 time and alex fucked up

that 1 play doesn't equal all of the season

its all good

 

[blackman80]

i'm glad that we(49ers) won tonight..but we have to do something with our QB situation for real..thank god we got a running game ...

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Randy Moss knew what he was signing up for

he needs to blame the coordinators not alex smith.

randy only plays 25% of the snaps on offense.

can't target someone who's not out there 75% of the time now can you?

they have these weapons and refuse to use them

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

i'm glad that we(49ers) won tonight..but we have to do something with our QB situation for real..thank god we got a running game ...

we have to do something about our game plan

shit is stupid

running sweeps when we shouldn't
run qb keepers in the red zone
running straight up the middle

 

[RoadRage]

The 49ers win in-spite of Alex!!!​

 

[D-TOWN REP]

he needs to blame the coordinators not alex smith.

randy only plays 25% of the snaps on offense.

can't target someone who's not out there 75% of the time now can you?

they have these weapons and refuse to use them

The reason for that is they don't trust Alex Smith fam

I know you are smart enough to see that

Basically the offense that Garrett gives Romo after a multiple pick game is the offense that Alex Smith always has

So you are right it does go to the coaches, they are calling the plays

But we know the reason why

 

[BlackStar6870]

Randy moss wide open in the endzone. Randy gonna act a fool in about 2 to 3 weeks about how shitty smith is. He's been open all year.

Moss is always open Alex Smith is a fucking BUM

 

[RoadRage]

The reason for that is they don't trust Alex Smith fan

I know you are smart enough to see that

Basically the offense that Garrett gives Romo after a multiple pick game is the offense that Alex Smith always has

So you are right it does go to the coaches, they are calling the plays

But we know the reason why

Word! Alex ran through almost 10 offensive coordinators, and what none of them were good? C'mon the reason why he had so many is because he got them all fired with his bullshit... Instead of firing them they should have gotten rid of his sorry ass a long time ago!

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

The reason for that is they don't trust Alex Smith fan

I know you are smart enough to see that

Basically the offense that Garrett gives Romo after a multiple pick game is the offense that Alex Smith always has

So you are right it does go to the coaches, they are calling the plays

But we know the reason why

then they aren't making sense.
if you don't trust him then don't play him period.

the only reason i support alex smith is because i trust jim and greg. period.

i don't think this game is a fair assessment though
that's a top 5 defense nothing to be had
maylock kept saying it all night that the wide receivers aren't winning on the outside

you know how seattle db's get down.

today he did his job he made a bad mistake

but the coaches need to cut the cute shit the fuck out

maybe now people on the outside will see it.

came out 1st possession ran the quick tempo he completed the plays that were open scored a td

next possession
same rhythm
same tempo moved the shit into the redzone

run a simple run up the middle for nothing

then put in kap for no fucking reason and he looks lost cause his standard run is prepared for now and he loses 2

and now what was a prime opportunity is now a 3rd and long cause they wasted 2 downs.

no excuse throw that shit away alex smith but the kap shit has to stop

either play him
or don't play him

 

[D-TOWN REP]

Word! Alex ran through almost 10 offensive coordinators, and what none of them were good? C'mon the reason why he had so many is because he got them all fired with his bullshit... Instead of firing them they should have gotten rid of his sorry ass a long time ago!

They minus whale open the playbook up

It's been a good while since a game manager has won a super bowl

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Moss is always open Alex Smith is a fucking BUM

that's a damn lie

they showed 1 where he was

and they showed 4 plays where he wasn't

and showed 4 places where he had nowhere to throw the ball

but all anyone remembers is 1 time he was

maylock was saying the shit all night

"the receivers just aren't winning on the outside"

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Word! Alex ran through almost 10 offensive coordinators, and what none of them were good? C'mon the reason why he had so many is because he got them all fired with his bullshit... Instead of firing them they should have gotten rid of his sorry ass a long time ago!

how many of them still currently call plays???

only 1
norv turner
and we see what he's doing right?

and they didn't get rid of him when he was sorry
and never signed anyone
and jim didn't come in and replace him
but you know better than jim right???

 

[D-TOWN REP]

that's a damn lie

they showed 1 where he was

and they showed 4 plays where he wasn't

and showed 4 places where he had nowhere to throw the ball

but all anyone remembers is 1 time he was

maylock was saying the shit all night

"the receivers just aren't winning on the outside"

I dont think it's fair to use this game as an example because all of the players on the Seahawks secondary are the size of big recievers

They manhandle players

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I dont think it's fair to use this game as an example because all of the players on the Seahawks secondary are the size of big recievers

They manhandle players

tell that to them dudes who think any wr was open all night and alex just checked down because he checked down

i mean the announcer was clear as day all night
the wr's aren't winning on the outside
then they show how they are blanketed nowhere to throw
but they'll come in and say he only throws check downs.
um if they're playing 1 on 1 and on the wr's where else will he throw?

and like i said they'll say moss has been open all season and he simply hasnt'
now he was open 1 time tonight
and it was a crucial play
and alex fucked up.
he needed to take advantage of that and that's what he needs to do.

but dudes will act like a dude who plays 25% of the snaps is just running down the field every play open lol

NOBODY on the offense plays a healthy amount of snaps other than the o linemen.

gore maxes out at 20 carries PERIOD.
how many sets do we run?
2wr 3 wr 5 1 different groups they're shuffling all game.
but
somehow they're acting like we go the 3 wide set every down and he just decides not to throw the ball

 

[RoadRage]

how many of them still currently call plays???

only 1
norv turner
and we see what he's doing right?

and they didn't get rid of him when he was sorry
and never signed anyone
and jim didn't come in and replace him
but you know better than jim right???

you are starting to sound just like this CAC that used to post here..​

 

[Dr. Truth]

Large, I'm being real but are you a cracka? All Jokes aside. I'm getting strong white boy vibes from you. You ride too hard for a bum ass white QB. Seriously B, Just come out and admit it. There's no excuse for this Smith support. It's out of hand.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

you are starting to sound just like this CAC that used to post here..​

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?p=12141603&posted=1#post12141603

you're more than welcome to come and join in on the discussion

now come again with something other than accusing someone of being white when you have nothing else to say

 

[RoadRage]

Large, I'm being real but are you a cracka? All Jokes aside. I'm getting strong white boy vibes from you. You ride too hard for a bum ass white QB. Seriously B, Just come out and admit it. There's no excuse for this Smith support. It's out of hand.