Ring Magazine Pound for Pound Ranking

[Mr Nice]

Do you agree?

If they dropped Pac down 1 because of the loss tell me why Floyd does not move up the the #1 spot




Pound for Pound


1 Vacant (should be Floyd.....brother still can't get no respect)

2 Floyd Mayweather Jr. / Manny Pacquiao
Country: USA / Philippines
Record: 43-0-0 (26 KOs) / 54-4-2 (38 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 2 / 2 | Last Week: 2 / 2 | Weeks On List: 50 / 457
Titles: WBC welterweight, WBA jr. middleweight / n/a welterweight

3 Andre Ward
Country: USA
Record: 26-0-0 (14 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 3 | Last Week: 5 | Weeks On List: 72
Titles: RING, WBC, WBA super middleweight

4 Sergio Martinez
Country: Argentina
Record: 49-2-2 (28 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 4 | Last Week: 3 | Weeks On List: 122
Titles: RING middleweight

5 Nonito Donaire
Country: Philippines
Record: 29-1-0 (18 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 5 | Last Week: 4 | Weeks On List: 174
Title: WBO, IBF jr. featherweight

6 Juan Manuel Marquez
Country: Mexico
Record: 54-6-1 (39 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 6 | Last Week: 6 | Weeks On List: 282
Titles: WBA, WBO jr. welterweight

7 Wladimir Klitschko
Country: Ukraine
Record: 58-3-0 (51 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 7 | Last Week: 7 | Weeks On List: 106
Titles: RING, IBF, WBO, WBA heavyweight

8 Timothy Bradley
Country: USA
Record: 29-0-0 (12 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 8 | Last Week: 8 | Weeks On List: 102
Titles: WBO welterweight

9 Vitali Klitschko
Country: Ukraine
Record: 45-2-0 (41 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 9| Last Week: 9 | Weeks On List: 38
Title: WBC heavyweight

10 Anselmo Moreno
Country: Panama
Record: 33-1-1 (12 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 10 | Last Week: NR | Weeks On List: 1
Titles: WBA bantamweight

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[SWATLANTA]

All I know is Pacquiao and Marquez have signed up to fight for the 4th time...and I don't want to see that shit !! I do believe that Floyd should be #1 until someone beats him....

 

[johniz]

Should be Floyd but he fights so rarely. Pac-Man needs to retire. Andre Ward may be the new #1.

 

[Jumbodicc]

Floyd should be number 1. Where is Adrian Broner on the list?

 

[HisFlyness]

That's laughable.

 

[big_black68]

Floyd should be number 1. Where is Adrian Broner on the list?

Broner shouldn't be on the list yet. He's still too early into his career and hasn't fought anybody yet. Plus that shit he pulled coming in over weight for his last fight was a joke this. I like his potential a lot though. Floyd not being #1 is a damn joke though

 

[Mr Nice]

All I know is Pacquiao and Marquez have signed up to fight for the 4th time...and I don't want to see that shit !! I do believe that Floyd should be #1 until someone beats him....

Exactly

Should be Floyd but he fights so rarely. Pac-Man needs to retire. Andre Ward may be the new #1.

Right on all 3 points

Floyd should be number 1. Where is Adrian Broner on the list?

Broner needs to fight and beat asome top contenders before he he will be considered for this list.....He does have potential though

 

[deekang]

Never understood how Pac can be top 5 but can not decisively beat Marquez? Broner needs to fight better fighters first and not come in heavy lol kid got skills though. Nonito Donaire needs to fight Rigo IMO to stay on that list.

 

[patscorpio]

number 1 should be andre ward..dude cleaned out the 168 division and just beat down the man at 175....floyd shouldn't be on this list..fuck the zero...the inactivity is some bullshit

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

I agree with vacating #1. Floyd is the best fighter, but he hasn't fought in a grip and I feel like that #1 spot should also be based on activity, not saying anyone beats him, but he can't lose if he doesn't fight and no fighter should be rewarded for being undefeated when they aren't regularly fighting. There actually to me is a more compelling argument for Ward at #1 than Floyd, as he has been very active and has beaten a lot of top competition...

The rest of the field I totally agree with, especially Moreno at 10.

Broner hasn't beat ANYONE yet to deserve a rating even in the top 20 IMO... He has a lot more work to do before he is considered an elite fighter in my book... a great talent yes, but hasn't fought the level of competition to be mentioned in the same breath as the fighters in this list right now...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

This list is pitiful and even racist. Cotto was virtually unbeatable when Mayweather dominated him with ease. What about Victor Ortiz? Ortiz was almost like a Mike Tyson and Mayweather just easily beat the shit out of him. The only reason they put Ward so close now is because he's light skinned. The Ring has been on some racist shit ever since Oscar de la Hoya took it over and they refuse to put any dark skinned brothers as #1 on that bullshit list. Think about it. When was the last time you seen a dark skinned brother #1 on that list? Shiiit. Probably fuckin Jack Johnson or somebody like that wayyy back in the day.

Your statement about Ward made an almost ridiculous post extremely idiotic... Go back to Lurking Dude... frankly you really don't have shit to add to any intelligent discussion obviously...

 

[gman2k4]

Floyd should be number 1. Where is Adrian Broner on the list?

Who has he beat? He never been tested. He never beat a champion for the belt. If im not mistaken every belt he has came from a fight for a vacant title. he needs to move to 135 or 147, he has had problems making weight a few times. He keep talking shit to Robert "Ghost" Guerrero (147 champ) but the problem dont want that problem

 

[BDR]

I see aids patient/ pedophile Zefrino is back as Zped

 

[Mr Nice]

number 1 should be andre ward..dude cleaned out the 168 division and just beat down the man at 175....floyd shouldn't be on this list..fuck the zero...the inactivity is some bullshit

 

[Alaskanredman]

Never understood how Pac can be top 5 but can not decisively beat Marquez? Broner needs to fight better fighters first and not come in heavy lol kid got skills though. Nonito Donaire needs to fight Rigo IMO to stay on that list.

I don't understand how he is tied with Floyd for number 2. Pac unofficially loss to Marquez and officially loss to Bradley. How the fuck does that happen?

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Also, with as much hate on this board that Manny garners, no way in hell he should have been dropped completely from the top 10 after that bullshit loss to Bradley... I know he's tied for 2, but there have been arguments he should be dropped completely...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

You just another Floyd hatin CAC!

I normally don't address Lurkers and I am basically through with you, so don't waste time quoting anymore of my post... but based on your response, thanks for validating my original point about you...

 

[Mr Nice]

I don't understand how he is tied with Floyd for number 2. Pac unofficially loss to Marquez and officially loss to Bradley. How the fuck does that happen?

Exactly what the fuck I'm trying to figure out.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

I don't understand how he is tied with Floyd for number 2. Pac unofficially loss to Marquez and officially loss to Bradley. How the fuck does that happen?

So, tell me how his 'unofficial' loss to Marquez should count against him As well as validating his bullshit loss to Bradley... I respect your opinion but honestly, that some real hypocritical shit you just typed my Dude...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Whatever. When's the last time you seen a dark skinned brother as #1 pound for pound in boxing?

Thank you. I rest my case. Next victim.

I'm going against my original statement, but your stupidity keeps drawing me in... So, Floyd is a fucking red bone?!?!? He has been universally recognized as #1 pound for pound for years?!?!?!

Leave the thread Dude, you are basically trying to make an argument that makes no damn sense what so ever... Simpleton ass Nicca!!!

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

I don't understand how he is tied with Floyd for number 2. Pac unofficially loss to Marquez and officially loss to Bradley. How the fuck does that happen?

Seriously, I believe Floyd's inactivity was equally weighed against Manny's bullshit loss to Bradley, and both were weighted equally, thus the tie... That's my take anyway...

 

[Alaskanredman]

So, tell me how his 'unofficial' loss to Marquez should count against him As well as validating his bullshit loss to Bradley... I respect your opinion but honestly, that some real hypocritical shit you just typed my Dude...

One of them should count at least is what I'm saying. Marquez was robbed and then Pac was robbed, but if you don't want to count what happen to Marquez against Pac then by that same logic you have to count the Bradley loss and vice versa. There isn't a logical way to say he is equal to Floyd based on however you look at those fights. Ward should be #1 till Floyd fights again. Pac could get the #10 spot.

 

[Alaskanredman]

Seriously, I believe Floyd's inactivity was equally weighed against Manny's bullshit loss to Bradley, and both were weighted equally, thus the tie... That's my take anyway...

He fought... then went to jail and that equal to a loss? It would be one thing if he took a year long vacation and you decided to put a fighter getting it in like Ward above or equal to Floyd, but a motherfucker with a loss whether you count it towards Marquez or Bradley shouldn't be in the top 5 when you got other people winning.

 

[o0-SCV-0o]

This list is pitiful and even racist. Cotto was virtually unbeatable when Mayweather dominated him with ease. What about Victor Ortiz? Ortiz was almost like a Mike Tyson and Mayweather just easily beat the shit out of him. The only reason they put Ward so close now is because he's light skinned. The Ring has been on some racist shit ever since Oscar de la Hoya took it over and they refuse to put any dark skinned brothers as #1 on that bullshit list. Think about it. When was the last time you seen a dark skinned brother #1 on that list? Shiiit. Probably fuckin Jack Johnson or somebody like that wayyy back in the day.

Ring Magazine P4P History
from the Boxinghistorian.com

2007 2006 2005 2004
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr (3) 1. Floyd Mayweather Jr (2) 1. Floyd Mayweather Jr 1. Bernard Hopkinis (2)
2. Manny Pacquiao 2. Manny Pacquiao 2. Ronald (winkey) Wright 2. Floyd Mayweather Jr
3. Juan Manuel Marquez 3. Ronald (winkey) Wright 3. Marco Antonio Barrera 3. Kostya Tszyu
4. Bernard Hopkins 4. Jermain Taylor 4. Ricky Hatton 4. Ronald (winkey) Wright
5. Joe Calzaghe 5. Bernard Hopkins 5. Manny Pacquiao 5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Israel Vazquez 6. Marco Antonio Barrera 6. Erik Morales 6. Juan Manuel Marquez
7. Miguel Angel Cotto 7. Rafael Marquez 7. Juan Manuel Marquez 7. Marco Antonio Barrera
8. Ricky Hatton 8. Ricky Hatton 8. Rafael Marquez 8. Erik Morales
9. Ronald (winkey) Wright 9. Jose Luis Castillo 9. Jose Luis Castillo 9. Glen Johnson
10. Rafael Marquez 10. Joe Calzaghe 10. Zab Judah 10. Antonio Tarver

2003 2002 2001 2000
1. Roy Jones Jr (3) 1. Bernard Hopkins 1. Shane Mosley (2) 1. Shane Mosley
2. Bernard Hopkins 2. Roy Jones Jr 2. Bernard Hopkins 2. Felix Trinidad
3. Shane Mosley 3. Marco Antonio Barrera 3. Roy Jones Jr 3. Roy Jones Jr
4. Oscar De La Hoya 4. Vernon Forrest 4. Marco Antonio Barrera 4. Oscar De La Hoya
5. Floyd Mayweather Jr 5. Oscar De La Hoya 5. Floyd Mayweather Jr 5. Diego Corrales
6. Manny Pacquiao 6 Kostya Tszyu 6. Felix Trinidad 6. Naseem Hamed
7. Kostya Tszyu 7. Erik Morales 7. Oscar De La Hoya 7. Floyd Mayweather Jr
8. Erik Morales 8. Floyd Mayweather J 8. Ricardo Lopez 8. Lennox Lewis
9. James Toney 9. Lennox Lewis 9. Kostya Tszyu 9. Erik Morales
10. Antonio Tarver 10. Shane Mosley 10. Erik Morales 10. Bernard Hopkins

1999 1998 1997 1996
1. Roy Jones Jr (2) 1. Oscar De La Hoya (2) 1. Oscar De La Hoya 1. Roy Jones Jr
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr 2. Roy Jones Jr 2. Roy Jones Jr 2. Oscar De La Hoya
3. Felix Trinidad 3. Evander Holyfield 3. Felix Trinidad 3. Pernrll Whitaker
4. Oscar De La Hoya 4. Felix Trinidad 4. Pernell Whitaker 4. Felix Trinidad
5. Shane Mosley 5. Mark Johnson 5. Evander Holyfield 5. Ricardo Lopez
6. Mark Johnson 6. Shane Mosley 6. Terry Norris 6. Junior Jones
7. Ricardo Lopez 7. Ricadro Lopez 7. Junior Jones 7 Kostya Tszyu
8. Erik Morales 8. Floyd Mayweather Jr 8. Ricardo Lopez 8. Terry Norris
9. Bernard Hopkins 9. Naseem Hamed 9. Ike Quartey 9. Evander Holyfield
10. Stevie Johnson 10. Johnny Tapia 10. Mark Johnson 10. Mark Johnson

1995 1994 1993 1992
1. Pernell Whitaker (3) 1. Pernell Whitaker (2) 1. Pernell Whitaker 1. Julio Cesar Chavez (3)
2. Roy Jones Jr 2. Roy Jones Jr 2. Julio Cesar Chavez 2. Pernell Whitaker
3. Ricardo Lopez 3. Orlando Canizales 3. James Toney 3. Terry Norris
4. Oscar De La Hoya 4. Ricardo Lopez 4. Michael Carbajal 4. Orlando Canizales
5. Felix Trinidad 5. Humberto Gonzalez 5. Orlando Canizales 5. James (Buddy) McGrit
6. Yuri Arbachakov 6. Frankie Randall 6. Evander Holyfield 6. Riddick Bowe
7. Kostya Tszyu 7. Felix Trinidad 7. Ricardo Lopez 7. Azumah Nelson
8. Riddick Bowe 8. Gerald McClellan 8. Roy Jones Jr 8. Sung-Kil Moon
9. Marco Antonio Barrera 9. Migel Angel Gonzalez 9. Kennedy McKinney 9. Julian Jacksoon
10. Terry Norris 10. Kevin Kelly 10. Yuri Arbachakov 10. James Toney

1991 1990 1989 1988
1. Julio Cesar Chavez (2) 1. Julio Cesar Chavez 1. Mike Tyson (3) 1. Mike Tyson (2)
2. Pernell Whitaker 2. Pernell Whitaker 2. Julio Cesar Chavez 2. Julio Cesar Chavez
3. Terry Norris 3. Michael Nunn 3. Pernell Whitaker 3. Evander Holyfield
4. Evander Holyfield 4. Antonio Esparragoza 4. Michael Nunn 4. Ray Leonard
5. Meldrick Taylor 5. Meldrick Taylor 5. Antonio Esparragoza 5. Jeff Fenech
6. Riddock Bowe 6. Evander Holyfield 6. Meldrick Taylor 6. Michael Nunn
7. James (Buddy) McGrit 7. Mike Tyson 7. Azumah Nelson 7. Azumah Nelson
8. Khaosai Galaxy 8. Raul Perez 8. Raul Perez 8. Jung Koo Chang
9. James Toney 9. Myung-Woo Yuh 9. Virgil Hill 9. Buddy McGirt
10. Sung-Kil Moon 10. Khaosai Galaxy 10. Marlon Starling 10. Sumbu Kalambay

1987 1986 1985 1984
1. Mike Tyson 1. Marvin Hagler (4) 1. Marvin Hagler (3) 1. Marvin Hagler (2)
2. Julio Cesar Chavez 2. Mike Tyson 2. Hector Camacho 2. Aaron Pryor
3. Sugar Ray Leonard 3. Donald Curry 3. Michael Spinks 3. Larry Holmes
4. Marvin Hagler 4. Thomas Hearns 4. Donald Curry 4. Eusebio Pedroza
5. Thomas Hearns 5. Edwin Rosario 5. Thomas Hearns 5. Hector Camacho
6. Michael Nunn 6. Azumah Nelson 6. Barry McGuigan 6. Ray Leonard
7. Jeff Fenech 7. Michael Spinks 7. Milton McCrory 7. Jeff Chandler
8. Azumah Nelson 8. Evander Holyfield 8. Julio Cesar Chavez 8. Michael Spinks
9. Michael Spinks 9. Julio Cesar Chavez 9. Pinklon Thomas 9. Thomas Hearns
10. Edwin Rosario 10. Hector Camacho 10. Larry Holmes 10. Donald Curry

1983 1982 1981 1980
1. Marvin Hagler 1. Sugar Ray Leonard 1. Thomas Hearns 1. Roberto Duran
2. Aaron Pryor 2. Alexis Arguello 2. Sugar Ray Leonard 2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Larry Holmes 3. Marvin Hagler 3. Marvin Hagler 3. Wilfredo Gomez
4. Michael Spinks 4. Salvador Sanchez 4. Larry Holmes 4. Danny Lopez
5. Jeff Chandler 5. Wilfred Benitez 5. Alexis Arguello 5. Pipino Cuevas
6. Thomas Hearns 6. Larry Holmes 6. Wilfredo Gomez 6. Alexis Arguello
7. Alexis Arguello 7. Jeff Chandler 7. Eddie Mustafa Muhammad 7. Larry Holmes
8. Wilfredo Gomez 8. Eusebio Pedroza 8. Matt Saad Muhammmad 8. Wilfred Benitez
9. Hector Camacho 9. Aaron Pryor 9. Wilfred Benitez 9. Vito Antuofermo
10. Eusebio Pedroza 10. Thomas Hearns 10. Roberto Duran 10. Matt Saad Muhammad

That said, Floyd should be #1. Cant say its his skin tone tho. Probably his style, mouth, time off etc; powers that be clearly not on his side.

 

[O.J PIMPSON]

Floyd fought in May!!!!!!!!!!! Beat Cotto ass went to jail, got out a few weeks ago. Manny lost his last fight and they're tied???? Bullshit!!!!!!

 

[Tom Slick]

Undefeated Andre Ward behind PacMan?

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

One thing I did notice too, is these rating have political agendas... I think keeping Manny and Floyd close is also an attempt to keep them both relevant to each other, and to help assist in making a fight between the two because even with Manny's loss and Floyds jail term, they still represent the biggest money fight out there. It's going to be hard for Ward to ascend to #1 because he doesn't have as big of a public profile, that's why as good as he is, he still fights on regular cable.

It also helps explain why they keep the HW's so far down, even though they are dominant in their divisions, they don't garner much in the way of american dollars, so they rank them, but not in a 'relevant' ranking... Bradley undefeated and #8? It's really not too smart to take these rankings as based on skill or even at times body of work, record because based on overall performances over the past 2 years, you'd have to rank Ward-1, Floyd-2, and possibly the HW's in the top 5... will never happen though, too many dollars at stake...

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

I like it. I think Ward should be number #1. He has proven it in the ring more than anyone else in the top 4. Manny is declining and pbf is still fighting people that don't pose much a challenge, sergio still needs that next big win. Tonight we get to see where sergio fits in this list.

 

[Spectrum]

Undefeated Andre Ward behind PacMan?

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

Undefeated Andre Ward behind PacMan?

It depends how you look at it. You can look at it like a casual fan and find bias. Or you can view it as a boxing fan and see the recent controversial loss to a top 10 pound for pound fighter play a role in it. I like Ward. Dawsonwas a challenge but not a top 10 fighter. Ward has it all. He needs help and time to be consider number 1. Even though I think he is there now.

 

[Mr Nice]

I like it. I think Ward should be number #1. He has proven it in the ring more than anyone else in the top 4. Manny is declining and pbf is still fighting people that don't pose much a challenge, sergio still needs that next big win. Tonight we get to see where sergio fits in this list.

Everything you said is on point accept the comment about pbf me personally would not be mad if they named Ward #1 the man has not lost since he was 12 years old (and said he still thinks he won that fight lol) and as far as Sergio tonight we will see I'm up in the air on that one.

And as for Floyd it's not that the fighters he's facing aren't posing a challenge he is just so domonating he makes A & A+ fighters look average against Marquez he domonated an A+ fighter one who arguably beat Manny Pacquiao. Against Mosley who use to be an A+ but at the time was still a solid A fighter he domonated 11 out of 12 rounds, Victor Ortiz another A fighter no comments on what happened there and in his last fight against another A+ fighter in Cotto he had to dig deep to eventually win a convincing unanimous decision.

The fighters he's faced would have been easily favorite over most other fights.

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

This list is ridiculous.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

This list is ridiculous.

Explain

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

Everything you said is on point accept the comment about pbf me personally would not be mad if they named Ward #1 the man has not lost since he was 12 years old (and said he still thinks he won that fight lol) and as far as Sergio tonight we will see I'm up in the air on that one.

And as for Floyd it's not that the fighters he's facing aren't posing a challenge he is just so domonating he makes A & A+ fighters look average against Marquez he domonated an A+ fighter one who arguably beat Manny Pacquiao. Against Mosley who use to be an A+ but at the time was still a solid A fighter he domonated 11 out of 12 rounds, Victor Ortiz another A fighter no comments on what happened there and in his last fight against another A+ fighter in Cotto he had to dig deep to eventually win a convincing unanimous decision.

The fighters he's faced would have been easily favorite over most other fights.

Shane hasn't been a A level fighter for years. Victor was never ever an A level fighter. Cotto, was finally exposed as a B level fighter. He never has beaten a top ten fighter. I truly believe PBF carried that fight. Lol, I'm sure he will admit to it one day. Ward had just been on an incredible streak. The only thing lacking is a victory over a top 10 fighter. I said him against Sergio made sense to me. But maybe after Chavez Jr. wins tonight. Chavez and Ward can make history.

 

[alexw]

this list is downright laughable

and why are bgol niggas acting like Floyd hasnt fought in years?

he just fought in May against a quality opponent