Stop the shaming of Single black mothers
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How did they become single moms? Did she get a career, stack some money, find a guy she thought was right, get married, THEN HAVE A CHILD, and then get DIVORCED.......or
Did she get pregnant at 16-23 without a penny to her name by some bum who plays PS3 all day?
These stats only talk about single moms. They don't talk about the men these single moms are choosing to reproduce with. Say what you want, but SOME black women are making some shit choices. There are far too many black women in this country who know the man they reproduced with wasn't shit. The signs were there and they still let him hit raw dog?
And what is this "shaming" bullshit? The black single-mom brigade has the most pull in the black community. There is no shame. Making your life a struggle when it didn't have to be is some kind of twisted badge of honor.
By economical standards, the guy who burns CD/DVD makes more than side road fruit vendor in Africa who has 4 baby mothers. Life is struggle period. I do not care how how many kids, unfit mother, how many baby daddy etc. These women did not walk into fertility clinic to get pregnant, single motherhood is nothing new. So the less we judge and fix the issues that causes crimes, DO NOT BLAME SINGLE PARENTHOOD.
that's the damn problem. having a baby out of wedlock by a dude who won't provide for it used to be a shameful act. now it's accepted and even celebrated. maybe if some of these bitches would feel more shame, they would be more careful about whom they procreate with. or at least make the nigga wear a got-damn condom.
king_101
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This is the best most accurate thing said on this site all year.Don't give a fuck about the rest of the world, but when I see black women feeding their toddlers nothing but sugar, drinking and smoking in front of their babies, beating them and not caring for them correctly, then turn around and have three more..
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Good question. When things were much harder 60 years ago, we had black families. Things are easier for us when compared to how people had it 60 years ago. Yet SOME of us are making mistakes we wouldn't have made 60 years ago.
People use poverty as an excuse. But all our grandparents were probably married and poor. Education is another excuse. Yet some of our grandparents did well to get past 8th grade. The fuck happened to the family?
Why is such fuckery tolerated? We are actually looking overseas to Europe to make some excuses for the rampant fuckery.
You described some social conditions.
How do we go about changing the conditions?
Good question. When things were much harder 60 years ago, we had black families. Things are easier for us when compared to how people had it 60 years ago. Yet SOME of us are making mistakes we wouldn't have made 60 years ago.
People use poverty as an excuse. But all our grandparents were probably married and poor. Education is another excuse. Yet some of our grandparents did well to get past 8th grade. The fuck happened to the family?
Why is such fuckery tolerated? We are actually looking overseas to Europe to make some excuses for the rampant fuckery.
Rampant single motherhood is new. Didn't have it 60 years ago, did we? And that was when birth control was hard as fuck to come by. Most of the cats in the bing come from single-parent homes. Coincidence?
How far would humans have came if women were giving away pussy to bums who couldn't provide for them? Our species would have died out before it started.
You have women actually having children with men who have no means to take care of them. NONE. And they see no problem with doing so. They take pride in being "independent." This wasn't the case 60 years ago. Shit was shameful.
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Being that we were stripped of our culture in this country, leaving us very little resistance towards park avenue and their marketing schemes, we stand more vulnerable to becoming addicted. Especially with their techniques of stripping women of their self esteem only to promise to give them back some with their product..
In the end many women and now a growing amount of fags, oops I mean men, equate material things with self esteem and their ego becomes entangled with the goods they purchase, creating a person who is addicted to feeling good, by spending money...
Like any other drug people with less culture and poor upbringing, and people who look for escapism, tend to be more vulnerable.
If we want this cycle to stop, we must stop looking at our children as future consumers, or extensions of our egos, and view them as a responsibility, someone to sacrifice our lives for, in order to uplift theirs...
I think what we must do is stop lying to them, stop allowing the church to lie to them, stop telling them that these kids are a blessing from god, and tell them the harsh truth... We must change the culture of how they see the world, let them know the dangers and hardships of being a single mother.. Let them know that its not cute and can be very humiliating and embarrassing... Shit tough love help slow down the crack epidemic when we started clowning crack heads, perhaps instead of trying to cater to their ego, we should shit on them, the way black men who has failed has been shitted on, and the way most failures of other races are shitted on..
On the flip side we must lift up the positive black woman, put her on a pedestal, marry her, give them hope and let the hope tinkle down towards the next generation of would be mothers..
We must take control of our culture, and stop letting the white run media dictate and define us...
That said, the absolute worse thing we can do is keep our heads in the ground, pretending that the ship is going to somehow right itself..
Its not a race thing, its a lack of thinking thing and the conditioning is in our heads....
You described some social conditions.
How do we go about changing the conditions?
Being that we were stripped of our culture in this country, leaving us very little resistance towards park avenue and their marketing schemes, we stand more vulnerable to becoming addicted. Especially with their techniques of stripping women of their self esteem only to promise to give them back some with their product..
In the end many women and now a growing amount of fags, oops I mean men, equate material things with self esteem and their ego becomes entangled with the goods they purchase, creating a person who is addicted to feeling good, by spending money...
Like any other drug people with less culture and poor upbringing, and people who look for escapism, tend to be more vulnerable.
If we want this cycle to stop, we must stop looking at our children as future consumers, or extensions of our egos, and view them as a responsibility, someone to sacrifice our lives for, in order to uplift theirs...
I think what we must do is stop lying to them, stop allowing the church to lie to them, stop telling them that these kids are a blessing from god, and tell them the harsh truth... We must change the culture of how they see the world, let them know the dangers and hardships of being a single mother.. Let them know that its not cute and can be very humiliating and embarrassing... Shit tough love help slow down the crack epidemic when we started clowning crack heads, perhaps instead of trying to cater to their ego, we should shit on them, the way black men who has failed has been shitted on, and the way most failures of other races are shitted on..
On the flip side we must lift up the positive black woman, put her on a pedestal, marry her, give them hope and let the hope tinkle down towards the next generation of would be mothers..
We must take control of our culture, and stop letting the white run media dictate and define us...
That said, the absolute worse thing we can do is keep our heads in the ground, pretending that the ship is going to somehow right itself..
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There are several factors that are common place. Many of the folks I observed were poor students. Many had dropped out of school. However, when they were in school they were in special education. Many took drugs like Prozac or Ritalin throughout their time in the school system. As adults many have moved on to all kinds of other drugs after being cut off. I came across very few who didn't use drugs and or alcohol. I also suspect many of them are 80's drug babies. I came to find out on the low many of their parents were getting high before and during pregnancy.
It's all about education. Not just what goes on in the public schools. It's about people needing to be educated on how to live. How to maintain a clean home. How to have a proper and healthy diet. How to communicate respectably and respectfully.
My mother told me when I was a kid the devils at my catholic school wanted to get me on some kind of behavioral drugs. My mother told them hell no. She told them I wasn't challenged and they needed to give me more work. Years later they would try her with my little brother and she would again tell them to fuck off. The school systems have to tried to get damn near every child in my family as well as family friends kids on some kind of drugs. Most of the kids needed to have their sugar intake cut drastically. Especially ketchup.
I can just imagine how many parents give in to the pressure and accept the SSI check every month as appeasement. I've seen the affects of those drugs since the 80's. Now those same kids have young adults. Some of those young adults have kids. I am observing a pattern of decline in social order of too many of those who indulged behavioral drugs pushed by the Board of Education. Drugs sanctioned or otherwise are not the answer.
You described some social conditions.
How do we go about changing the conditions?
There are several factors that are common place. Many of the folks I observed were poor students. Many had dropped out of school. However, when they were in school they were in special education. Many took drugs like Prozac or Ritalin throughout their time in the school system. As adults many have moved on to all kinds of other drugs after being cut off. I came across very few who didn't use drugs and or alcohol. I also suspect many of them are 80's drug babies. I came to find out on the low many of their parents were getting high before and during pregnancy.
It's all about education. Not just what goes on in the public schools. It's about people needing to be educated on how to live. How to maintain a clean home. How to have a proper and healthy diet. How to communicate respectably and respectfully.
My mother told me when I was a kid the devils at my catholic school wanted to get me on some kind of behavioral drugs. My mother told them hell no. She told them I wasn't challenged and they needed to give me more work. Years later they would try her with my little brother and she would again tell them to fuck off. The school systems have to tried to get damn near every child in my family as well as family friends kids on some kind of drugs. Most of the kids needed to have their sugar intake cut drastically. Especially ketchup.
I can just imagine how many parents give in to the pressure and accept the SSI check every month as appeasement. I've seen the affects of those drugs since the 80's. Now those same kids have young adults. Some of those young adults have kids. I am observing a pattern of decline in social order of too many of those who indulged behavioral drugs pushed by the Board of Education. Drugs sanctioned or otherwise are not the answer.
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Wow, I appreciate your insight as such stories are too often buried and thus the cycle continues.
What tools/strategies can be used to reach these people needing life education?
Is there some way we could track the over-medication of our kids?
Of course these questions are for everyone.
There are several factors that are common place. Many of the folks I observed were poor students. Many had dropped out of school. However, when they were in school they were in special education. Many took drugs like Prozac or Ritalin throughout their time in the school system. As adults many have moved on to all kinds of other drugs after being cut off. I came across very few who didn't use drugs and or alcohol. I also suspect many of them are 80's drug babies. I came to find out on the low many of their parents were getting high before and during pregnancy.
It's all about education. Not just what goes on in the public schools. It's about people needing to be educated on how to live. How to maintain a clean home. How to have a proper and healthy diet. How to communicate respectably and respectfully.
My mother told me when I was a kid the devils at my catholic school wanted to get me on some kind of behavioral drugs. My mother told them hell no. She told them I wasn't challenged and they needed to give me more work. Years later they would try her with my little brother and she would again tell them to fuck off. The school systems have to tried to get damn near every child in my family as well as family friends kids on some kind of drugs. Most of the kids needed to have their sugar intake cut drastically. Especially ketchup.
I can just imagine how many parents give in to the pressure and accept the SSI check every month as appeasement. I've seen the affects of those drugs since the 80's. Now those same kids have young adults. Some of those young adults have kids. I am observing a pattern of decline in social order of too many of those who indulged behavioral drugs pushed by the Board of Education. Drugs sanctioned or otherwise are not the answer.
Wow, I appreciate your insight as such stories are too often buried and thus the cycle continues.
What tools/strategies can be used to reach these people needing life education?
Is there some way we could track the over-medication of our kids?
Of course these questions are for everyone.
Both sides have to learn responsibility and consequences of their actions beyond themselves. Selfishness, lack of unity, and lack of moral compass in the black community is killing our youth. If we don't have a cultural revolution in the future we will remain where we are at. Our thinking and values must change.
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Again bruh it's not a they problem but an US problem.Your blame is too lopped-sided,I agree that one should take more of the responsibility but as a man I could never and honestly sit on my ass and blame a black woman for the things that are going on today with us and in our communities.
On another not,it's way to many opinions,finger pointing and silly bickering that equates to absolutely nothing productive.That has to stop before anything can change.
Like the rapper Ed-OG said "be a father to your child" that alone could help solve alot of what we see going on today.
Again bruh it's not a they problem but an US problem.Your blame is too lopped-sided,I agree that one should take more of the responsibility but as a man I could never and honestly sit on my ass and blame a black woman for the things that are going on today with us and in our communities.
On another not,it's way to many opinions,finger pointing and silly bickering that equates to absolutely nothing productive.That has to stop before anything can change.
Like the rapper Ed-OG said "be a father to your child" that alone could help solve alot of what we see going on today.
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Working in the schools and group homes, I saw first hand how poor mothers were bribed to put their kids on medication, and how schools were reward for having special ed. kids and punished for having bad kids... So the incentive was to push kids towards special ed, and have them medicated, as opposed to trying to deal with them and correct them... The precursor to all of this is usually the kids having very poor diet, and their central nervous system over whelmed by over-stimulation via too much movies, video games and music.. Resulting in ADD and all types of problems with the brain neurons.. We often joke about it, but crack babies are a major factor to this also...
At the end of the day the debate is can these kids be corrected after years and years of neglect and abuse.... The jury remains open, however with funding dwindling and incentives there to medicate, most schools choose to medicate than look for alternative solutions...
But the final line is on the parent, the more educated they are the more likely they are to resist the money associated with having their child medicated, and the more likely they are to search for a more homeopathic child friendly solution.
Working in the schools and group homes, I saw first hand how poor mothers were bribed to put their kids on medication, and how schools were reward for having special ed. kids and punished for having bad kids... So the incentive was to push kids towards special ed, and have them medicated, as opposed to trying to deal with them and correct them... The precursor to all of this is usually the kids having very poor diet, and their central nervous system over whelmed by over-stimulation via too much movies, video games and music.. Resulting in ADD and all types of problems with the brain neurons.. We often joke about it, but crack babies are a major factor to this also...
At the end of the day the debate is can these kids be corrected after years and years of neglect and abuse.... The jury remains open, however with funding dwindling and incentives there to medicate, most schools choose to medicate than look for alternative solutions...
But the final line is on the parent, the more educated they are the more likely they are to resist the money associated with having their child medicated, and the more likely they are to search for a more homeopathic child friendly solution.
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Im shocked that CAC poster GTG305H (or the mod who logs in as him) hasnt come in here to spew that stormfront single mother/bastard black child rhetoric he normally throws out in our basketball threads.
Im shocked that CAC poster GTG305H (or the mod who logs in as him) hasnt come in here to spew that stormfront single mother/bastard black child rhetoric he normally throws out in our basketball threads.
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Maybe blaming them is the wrong term, how about this they are the first line of defense and the last, the black woman has much more of a say so about the well being of black children than most black men... And due to the ratio factor cutting down on the number of bad black mother is much more of a wise strategy than trying to correct every single black man. As long as we are addicted to spending, and they are rewarded for having black children out of wedlock, you will continue to see women, birth children for material goods...
Lets put it in revers to see if it still works... Like I said, if us guys got pregnant, there is no way in fuck that I would allow myself to get pregnant and have a child by some loser, and I would still be fucking....
And if I did, My dumb ass would deserve to be called every expletive in the book!
Maybe blaming them is the wrong term, how about this they are the first line of defense and the last, the black woman has much more of a say so about the well being of black children than most black men... And due to the ratio factor cutting down on the number of bad black mother is much more of a wise strategy than trying to correct every single black man. As long as we are addicted to spending, and they are rewarded for having black children out of wedlock, you will continue to see women, birth children for material goods...
Lets put it in revers to see if it still works... Like I said, if us guys got pregnant, there is no way in fuck that I would allow myself to get pregnant and have a child by some loser, and I would still be fucking....
And if I did, My dumb ass would deserve to be called every expletive in the book!
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I agree with your points. But how can uneducated black woman in a developing manage to raise their children better than privilege Black woman in USA?. When I say "privilege" I meant the means are better in terms of quality of life is better than been UN Camp or village with no running water or corner store.
Personally I think all rundown cities or town, just need to be destroy, and let mother nature take over by growing trees. Spend the resources teaching and improving the quality of life...maybe they need the Amish way of living..BASICS
There are several factors that are common place. Many of the folks I observed were poor students. Many had dropped out of school. However, when they were in school they were in special education. Many took drugs like Prozac or Ritalin throughout their time in the school system. As adults many have moved on to all kinds of other drugs after being cut off. I came across very few who didn't use drugs and or alcohol. I also suspect many of them are 80's drug babies. I came to find out on the low many of their parents were getting high before and during pregnancy.
It's all about education. Not just what goes on in the public schools. It's about people needing to be educated on how to live. How to maintain a clean home. How to have a proper and healthy diet. How to communicate respectably and respectfully.
My mother told me when I was a kid the devils at my catholic school wanted to get me on some kind of behavioral drugs. My mother told them hell no. She told them I wasn't challenged and they needed to give me more work. Years later they would try her with my little brother and she would again tell them to fuck off. The school systems have to tried to get damn near every child in my family as well as family friends kids on some kind of drugs. Most of the kids needed to have their sugar intake cut drastically. Especially ketchup.
I can just imagine how many parents give in to the pressure and accept the SSI check every month as appeasement. I've seen the affects of those drugs since the 80's. Now those same kids have young adults. Some of those young adults have kids. I am observing a pattern of decline in social order of too many of those who indulged behavioral drugs pushed by the Board of Education. Drugs sanctioned or otherwise are not the answer.
I agree with your points. But how can uneducated black woman in a developing manage to raise their children better than privilege Black woman in USA?. When I say "privilege" I meant the means are better in terms of quality of life is better than been UN Camp or village with no running water or corner store.
Personally I think all rundown cities or town, just need to be destroy, and let mother nature take over by growing trees. Spend the resources teaching and improving the quality of life...maybe they need the Amish way of living..BASICS
I have no problem going in on Black fathers who aren't taking care of their kids and have no intention of doing so...
...and I don't agree with shaming Black single mothers...many do a creditable job of raising their kids...
HOWEVER, I will not go around caping for these mothers either...
...and I don't agree with shaming Black single mothers...many do a creditable job of raising their kids...
HOWEVER, I will not go around caping for these mothers either...
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This is n**** shit....if bitches are rolling around still equating protection with n**** shit they're fuckin' lost. You protect your wife/children with better ZIP CODES.
This is n**** shit....if bitches are rolling around still equating protection with n**** shit they're fuckin' lost. You protect your wife/children with better ZIP CODES.
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No one is shaming black single mothers (black church anyone?). There isn't and hasn't been any SHAME in a long time. You will always get told "don't judge me" regardless of the situation.
No one is shaming black single mothers (black church anyone?). There isn't and hasn't been any SHAME in a long time. You will always get told "don't judge me" regardless of the situation.
Its amazing how u guys ignore the responsibility of the male in a pregnancy situation and blame it all on the mothers. For example, if some mother feeds her baby kool-aid, we justifiably bad talk her..but did anyone think that with the stable father in the household maybe none of the bad parenting that goes on wouldn't happen.
Im kinda playing devils advocate, but at least single mothers are BEING MOTHERS. Most of the fathers are TOTALLY absent.
Women aren't "Just havin' babies" by themselves. They're being impregnated by irresponsible men who are running from obligation. U cant fuck a bitch and then just assume she's gonna have an abortion.
Sex leads to babies, and it takes 2.
Im kinda playing devils advocate, but at least single mothers are BEING MOTHERS. Most of the fathers are TOTALLY absent.
Women aren't "Just havin' babies" by themselves. They're being impregnated by irresponsible men who are running from obligation. U cant fuck a bitch and then just assume she's gonna have an abortion.
Sex leads to babies, and it takes 2.
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The point is... these women know the men that they are dealing with have absolutely no future, criminal histories that are years long, hussle for money and are broke. Why even attempt to procreate with a man like this?
Because our community is lining up with excuses for them.
Somewhere in the last decades it went from shame to praise.
Because our community is lining up with excuses for them.
Somewhere in the last decades it went from shame to praise.
This here^^^^^
I already see how this thread will end ESPECIALLY when da usual suspects arrive. Y'all have at it.
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fuck do you live where that's the only type of black women you see...
Don't give a fuck about the rest of the world, but when I see black women feeding their toddlers nothing but sugar, drinking and smoking in front of their babies, beating them and not caring for them correctly, then turn around and have three more..
fuck do you live where that's the only type of black women you see...
solutions?
it's a given the present state of affairs stems from women's suffrage (i said it), the road-to-hell-paved-with-good-intentions laws of the 60/70s, and the disaster of forced integration sending our best & brightest to attempt @ being "accepted"...
comparing our situation (which is one of the most unique on the planet) to mostly homogenous european countries is ridiculous
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Where is it that I said all black women are like that.... I said when I see black mothers doing that shit........ I never placed a number or a % but I will say that it happens much more than it should... My brother is having a problem with his baby mother, because she is feeding her the wrong things and not giving her proper care...
Where is it that I said all black women are like that.... I said when I see black mothers doing that shit........ I never placed a number or a % but I will say that it happens much more than it should... My brother is having a problem with his baby mother, because she is feeding her the wrong things and not giving her proper care...
I totally agree. In 2010 I took advantage of a Lay Health Adviser Training Opportunity. It was a free 10 hour course over 5 weeks. Two hour sessions between 6pm and 8pm once a week. During the course I learned of the alarming high rate of infant mortality among African Americans in Palm Beach.
The course was very informative on so many levels. One of which is the importance of a healthy diet prior to conception, during pregnancy and after child birth. There was a perfect example a couple who had trouble conceiving and miss carrying. In time the couple split and the woman remarried and had three healthy children with no complications. Her previous husband smoke, drank and didn't eat as healthy as he could.
It's never been all on the women. Everyone has to take responsibility. There are far too many people who just don't care and are comfortable with blissful ignorance. Unfortunately many of them are a lost cause. Our focus needs to be on the children and young adults. Contrary to constant flow of bad news and negative publicity of black people there are great things happening in communities across the country. We must be adamant and steadfast in our conviction and approach to helping and educating the youth. Even if it takes five generations to filter out the corruption.
If anyone is in Palm Beach and is interested in programs to better/benefit communities please hit me up via private message.
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People have to want to do better and care about a better quality of life. Image what you could do if you didn't have to worry about paying rent and utilities and got a card with up to $700 month for food. Plus WIC and medicaid. Just for about 5 years.
People have to want to do better and care about a better quality of life. Image what you could do if you didn't have to worry about paying rent and utilities and got a card with up to $700 month for food. Plus WIC and medicaid. Just for about 5 years.
Because our community is lining up with excuses for them.
Somewhere in the last decades it went from shame to praise.
This......
"All" is a bit extreme, wouldn't you say?
No....because what happens is that they themselves will never put any of the blame on their own damn decisions......
and they reinforce these thoughts by the folks who let them off the hook.....
and there are many who give them a complete pass on their fucked up decisions....
LoneStar29
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Because our community is lining up with excuses for them.
Somewhere in the last decades it went from shame to praise.
Who is praising black single mothers exactly???
Cuz ALL I hear from everyone who isnt a black single mother is how much black single mothers suck (especially from black men and black women who arent single mothers)
Black single mothers are seen as the shame of the community ... everyone looks down on bsm while giving the men who knock them up a pass so wtf are you guys talking about in here??? I'm so confused
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LoneStar29
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All this describes perfectly how you guys treat and coddle the black men who abandon their seeds
You want bsm to never utter a single word about the bad black men out there who abandon their children ... you want bsm to take 100% of the responsibility and let these bum niggas off scott free by never acknowledging their part in it ... YOU are the one giving passes to fucked up people
You just want all the shame on black women so that black men can look like angels
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LoneStar29
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Re: Stop the shaming Single black mothers
You only wish 1% of us are bad and 99% of you are good
Nigga PLEASE!
you guys just keep proving my point of how stormfrontish black men are nowadays ... spreading this bullshit ass propaganda ... fucking enemy
You only wish 1% of us are bad and 99% of you are good
Nigga PLEASE!you guys just keep proving my point of how stormfrontish black men are nowadays ... spreading this bullshit ass propaganda ... fucking enemy
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Whats wrong with your brain... Do you even know what "in theory" means?
As in, "in theory" one man could give every woman aids... Not meaning I could happen or would happen, but its physically possible if he was able to have sex with every female..
You only wish 1% of us are bad and 99% of you are good
you guys just keep proving my point of how stormfrontish black men are nowadays ... spreading this bullshit ass propaganda ... fucking enemy
Whats wrong with your brain... Do you even know what "in theory" means?
As in, "in theory" one man could give every woman aids... Not meaning I could happen or would happen, but its physically possible if he was able to have sex with every female..
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