Name your TOP 5...
and I'll name mine...
Trust me... It would be a blow out... but not the way you think...
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Name your TOP 5...
and I'll name mine...
Trust me... It would be a blow out... but not the way you think...
nobody is stopping rose and wade.
MVP's out the ass
MVP's out the ass
And, nobody's stopping Kareem... MJ... Bernard King... or 'Melo either...
AND... MJ can STOP WADE...
AND... Pooh can't come in that paint while Kareem is there...
Before you laugh... LOOK AT THE LIST...Streetball maybe.
League....
We've got Kareem... YOU FROM L.A., so... you ALREADY KNOW WHAT IT IS...
We've got MJ... That ENDS IT right there...
AND... We got Dr.J....
Not to mention... Tiny Archibald... Rod Strickland... Bob Lanier... Bernard King... etc...
When you look at the list... That statement isn't as foolish as some would think...
Before you laugh... LOOK AT THE LIST...
We've got Kareem... YOU FROM L.A., so... you ALREADY KNOW WHAT IT IS...
We've got MJ... That ENDS IT right there...
AND... We got Dr.J....
Not to mention... Tiny Archibald... Rod Strickland... Bob Lanier... Bernard King... etc...
When you look at the list... That statement isn't as foolish as some would think...
Mike was only born in Brooklyn....
He only reps NC as home, so I don't think that qualifies. He learned the game in NC not New York.
Same can be said for Pac from a musical standpoint.
He only reps NC as home, so I don't think that qualifies. He learned the game in NC not New York.
Same can be said for Pac from a musical standpoint.
OH NO... It does qualify...
The list IS ABOUT BIRTH PLACES... WHERE PLAYERS ARE BORN...
Nah bro
The list is about where niggaz first dribbles a ball
Mike prolly can't even tell you his Brooklyn address
Fuck outta here claiming mike Nigga
The list is about where niggaz first dribbles a ball
Mike prolly can't even tell you his Brooklyn address
Fuck outta here claiming mike Nigga
Thabeet Working To Improve Consistency, Hopes To Take Advantage Of Opportunity With Thunder
Aug 06, 2012 12:47 AM EDT
Hasheem Thabeet is aiming to be the Thunder’s backup center next season, and he knows that means reducing his errors and becoming more reliable.
“It’s another opportunity for me,” Thabeet said. “(I want to) establish my position somewhere. I haven’t been consistent. That’s what I’m working on just to stay consistent and have a spot somewhere.”
Thabeet, 25, hopes to have finally found an NBA home in Oklahoma City.
“To fit in, it’s really hard,” Thabeet said. “You go to different teams and every team expects something different out of you…It’s not an easy league at all. There are still challenges for me every day. I have a great opportunity. Not many people get the chance to where I am right now, I just have to go and capitalize on it.
Aug 06, 2012 12:47 AM EDT
Hasheem Thabeet is aiming to be the Thunder’s backup center next season, and he knows that means reducing his errors and becoming more reliable.
“It’s another opportunity for me,” Thabeet said. “(I want to) establish my position somewhere. I haven’t been consistent. That’s what I’m working on just to stay consistent and have a spot somewhere.”
Thabeet, 25, hopes to have finally found an NBA home in Oklahoma City.
“To fit in, it’s really hard,” Thabeet said. “You go to different teams and every team expects something different out of you…It’s not an easy league at all. There are still challenges for me every day. I have a great opportunity. Not many people get the chance to where I am right now, I just have to go and capitalize on it.
Marquis Teague Near Rookie-Scale Deal With Bulls
Aug 05, 2012 9:38 PM EDT
Marquis Teague is close to signing his first contract with the Bulls.
“I’m about to get it figured out when I go back,” said Teague, who is currently working John Calipari’s youth basketball camp at the University of Kentucky. “We just pretty much came up with something. So as soon as I go back to Chicago, it’ll be done. We’re right there. We’ll figure it out.”
Of the league’s 30 first-round selections, only Teague remains unsigned.
Teague admitted to being initially surprised at Chicago’s decision to select him with the 29th pick in the draft.
“I knew they liked me a lot,” Teague said. “They had called my agent and things like that. But yeah, it kind of surprised me that I went there. I feel like I’m just going to come in, try to bring a lot of energy, pick up on defense full-court, just try to change the game as much as I can.”
Aug 05, 2012 9:38 PM EDT
Marquis Teague is close to signing his first contract with the Bulls.
“I’m about to get it figured out when I go back,” said Teague, who is currently working John Calipari’s youth basketball camp at the University of Kentucky. “We just pretty much came up with something. So as soon as I go back to Chicago, it’ll be done. We’re right there. We’ll figure it out.”
Of the league’s 30 first-round selections, only Teague remains unsigned.
Teague admitted to being initially surprised at Chicago’s decision to select him with the 29th pick in the draft.
“I knew they liked me a lot,” Teague said. “They had called my agent and things like that. But yeah, it kind of surprised me that I went there. I feel like I’m just going to come in, try to bring a lot of energy, pick up on defense full-court, just try to change the game as much as I can.”
What does the list say.... BIRTH... PLACE... plain and simple...
It doesn't say... 'WHERE YOU LEARNED TO PLAY'
The shit is in PLAIN ENGLISH...
Mike was BORN HERE... SO I'M CLAIMING HIM...
U forgot
I said where u are from
I didn't say born
The list did
I said where u are from
I didn't say born
The list did
But... you posted the list...
I'm only using the same list you posted...
Besides, even without MJ.... New York STILL murders Illinois...
Yall have NO BIGS... except Mikan... and Eddie Curry....
That being said... MJ is FROM BROOKLYN... He says it... his mama says it... and his late Daddy said it... AND... his birth certificate says it... CASE CLOSED...
MJ is North Carolina's own, sit the fuck down with that stupid shit. Everything that made him the MJ we know, he developed while living in Wilmington, NC. The nerve of some of you cats.
What does the list say???
You can't change the rules now...
I know he developed his game in NC... There's NO DISPUTING THAT...
BUT... someone brought up a list... the list said BIRTH PLACES...
I used the SAME list... and now... IT DOESN'T COUNT...
Besides... Like I said... With or WITHOUT MIKE... NYC STILL CRUSHES ILLINOIS...
THAT'S THE POINT... LET'S NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THAT FACT...
BUT... Since Mike CLAIMS HIS BIRTH PLACE... I'm CLAIMING HIM TOO...
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What does the list say???
You can't change the rules now...
I know he developed his game in NC... There's NO DISPUTING THAT...
BUT... someone brought up a list... the list said BIRTH PLACES...
I used the SAME list... and now... IT DOESN'T COUNT...
Besides... Like I said... With or WITHOUT MIKE... NYC STILL CRUSHES ILLINOIS...
THAT'S THE POINT... LET'S NOT LOSE THAT FACT...
BUT... Since Mike CLAIMS HIS BIRTH PLACE... I'm CLAIMING HIM TOO...
I don't know what list you are talking about, and I don't care. That must be related to a conversation you had going on with another poster.
And claiming something, and acknowledging it are two different things. Mike doesn't claim brooklyn, he just acknowledges he was born there. And how could/would he not? It's common knowledge.
Waka flocka is from queens, and acknowledges it, are we supposed to include his name when we start talking about the long history of queens' emcees, and where his sorry ass would rank?
Stop being a typical, pretentious NYer. Your whole argument is ridiculous.
tired to get this back on track...
Chicago Bulls Right at Hard Cap
The Chicago Bulls finally inked Marquis Teague to his contract, the last of the 2012 first-rounders to sign.
According to K.C. Johnson of the Chicago Tribune, Teague accepted less than the standard 120 percent bump over his rookie scale contract, instead taking 100 percent at $857k as the 29th pick.
As previously detailed on the Bulls’ team salary page, the team has a hard cap of $74.3 million because they used their Mid-Level Exception ($3.9 million of it) on Kirk Hinrich and their Bi-Annual Exception ($1.957) on Marco Belinelli.
Under the rules of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, either trigger locks in the hard cap at $4 million above the tax line.
With Teague, Chicago has $73,548,450 in salary locked in for the coming year with 13 players. Free-agent signing Nate Robinson’s deal is partially guaranteed (amount TBD), which could change the numbers slightly, but the Bulls are all but spent out.
If they want to add a player, the most Chicago can pay is the $473,604 rookie minimum.
Since there is no way around the hard cap, the Bulls can look to trade or buyout a player – like Rip Hamilton – but otherwise there’s no room to bring in a veteran at the minimum Chicago was linked, through the rumor mill, to Tracy McGrady but that wouldn’t be possible without a corresponding cut in salary.
The Bulls also have a $5 million trade exception after sending Kyle Korver to the Atlanta Hawks, but they won’t be able to use it until after the season given the hard cap.
The NBA Players Union fought against a hard restriction but technically it’s a self-made problem for the Bulls. Had they used their Korver trade exception to acquire Hinrich via sign-and-trade and used their Mini-Mid Level Exception (up to $3.09 million) on Belinelli, the Bulls would not have the hard cap.
Chicago is also about $3.2 million over the luxury tax line, a fate they’ve long-avoided.
Chicago Bulls Right at Hard Cap
The Chicago Bulls finally inked Marquis Teague to his contract, the last of the 2012 first-rounders to sign.
According to K.C. Johnson of the Chicago Tribune, Teague accepted less than the standard 120 percent bump over his rookie scale contract, instead taking 100 percent at $857k as the 29th pick.
As previously detailed on the Bulls’ team salary page, the team has a hard cap of $74.3 million because they used their Mid-Level Exception ($3.9 million of it) on Kirk Hinrich and their Bi-Annual Exception ($1.957) on Marco Belinelli.
Under the rules of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, either trigger locks in the hard cap at $4 million above the tax line.
With Teague, Chicago has $73,548,450 in salary locked in for the coming year with 13 players. Free-agent signing Nate Robinson’s deal is partially guaranteed (amount TBD), which could change the numbers slightly, but the Bulls are all but spent out.
If they want to add a player, the most Chicago can pay is the $473,604 rookie minimum.
Since there is no way around the hard cap, the Bulls can look to trade or buyout a player – like Rip Hamilton – but otherwise there’s no room to bring in a veteran at the minimum Chicago was linked, through the rumor mill, to Tracy McGrady but that wouldn’t be possible without a corresponding cut in salary.
The Bulls also have a $5 million trade exception after sending Kyle Korver to the Atlanta Hawks, but they won’t be able to use it until after the season given the hard cap.
The NBA Players Union fought against a hard restriction but technically it’s a self-made problem for the Bulls. Had they used their Korver trade exception to acquire Hinrich via sign-and-trade and used their Mini-Mid Level Exception (up to $3.09 million) on Belinelli, the Bulls would not have the hard cap.
Chicago is also about $3.2 million over the luxury tax line, a fate they’ve long-avoided.
Ivan Johnson Still a Restricted Free Agent
The Atlanta Hawks have locked in the bulk of their roster for the coming season with 12 players under guaranteed contracts. One player still in limbo is 6’8 power forward Ivan Johnson. The Hawks issued an offer sheet to Johnson for $962,195 and since they’re not in possession of his Bird or Early-Bird Rights, that’s the most they can pay him without using an exception. The Mid-Level Exception was used on Lou Williams, which locked in a hard cap of $74.3 million. While the Hawks cannot exceed that number under any circumstances, at $64.6 million in salary, they aren’t close enough to be concerned. That leaves the team’s Bi-Annual Exception of $1.957 million for Johnson if the Hawks are to pay him more than his offer sheet. Another team could lure him away without restriction with an offer of $1.958 million and the Hawks would have no opportunity to stop it. Johnson played 16.7 minutes a night through 56 games, averaging 6.4 points and four boards. The minimum salary for Johnson is $762,195, less than what Atlanta has offered.
The Atlanta Hawks have locked in the bulk of their roster for the coming season with 12 players under guaranteed contracts. One player still in limbo is 6’8 power forward Ivan Johnson. The Hawks issued an offer sheet to Johnson for $962,195 and since they’re not in possession of his Bird or Early-Bird Rights, that’s the most they can pay him without using an exception. The Mid-Level Exception was used on Lou Williams, which locked in a hard cap of $74.3 million. While the Hawks cannot exceed that number under any circumstances, at $64.6 million in salary, they aren’t close enough to be concerned. That leaves the team’s Bi-Annual Exception of $1.957 million for Johnson if the Hawks are to pay him more than his offer sheet. Another team could lure him away without restriction with an offer of $1.958 million and the Hawks would have no opportunity to stop it. Johnson played 16.7 minutes a night through 56 games, averaging 6.4 points and four boards. The minimum salary for Johnson is $762,195, less than what Atlanta has offered.
Lawsuit: Stopping Gambling Before it Starts in New Jersey
The NBA, joined with the NCAA, MLB, NFL and NHL, filed a complaint on Tuesday against New Jersey state officials to try and stop the state from allowing “sports betting on pro and college games.”
The combined leagues argue that a recent decision by the state of New Jersey to offer sports betting violates the “Bradley Act” of 1992.
According to a release issued by the NBA, the Bradley Act (or the Professional and Amateur Protection Act as it’s more formally known), allowed a one-year window back in 1993 for states to authorize sports betting.
The claim stipulates that a January 17th, 2012 New Jersey law allowing such activities is in direct violation of the Bradley Act.
The leagues also argue that “gambling on amateur and professional sports threatens the integrity of those sports and is fundamentally at odds with the principle . . . that the outcomes of collegiate and professional athletic contests must be determined, and must be perceived by the public as being determined, solely on the basis of honest athletic competition.”
Currently there is no legal sports betting in New Jersey but the process started in January is expected to be completed by “mid-September or early October.”
The NBA, joined with the NCAA, MLB, NFL and NHL, filed a complaint on Tuesday against New Jersey state officials to try and stop the state from allowing “sports betting on pro and college games.”
The combined leagues argue that a recent decision by the state of New Jersey to offer sports betting violates the “Bradley Act” of 1992.
According to a release issued by the NBA, the Bradley Act (or the Professional and Amateur Protection Act as it’s more formally known), allowed a one-year window back in 1993 for states to authorize sports betting.
The claim stipulates that a January 17th, 2012 New Jersey law allowing such activities is in direct violation of the Bradley Act.
The leagues also argue that “gambling on amateur and professional sports threatens the integrity of those sports and is fundamentally at odds with the principle . . . that the outcomes of collegiate and professional athletic contests must be determined, and must be perceived by the public as being determined, solely on the basis of honest athletic competition.”
Currently there is no legal sports betting in New Jersey but the process started in January is expected to be completed by “mid-September or early October.”
So if you don't know what I'm talking and I don't care... then WHY POST ANYTHING???...
You automatically ASSUME that I'm a typical pretentious NYer... YET... you have NO IDEA what the conversation is about...
The fact is... I used the SAME criteria GIVEN IN THE CONVERSATION... and when that criteria SUPPORTS MY ARGUMENT... People want to change the rules given...
What typical is... people LIKE YOU... can't help but come into a thread on some TYPICAL BGOL NYC HATER SHIT...
The homie and myself ALWAYS DO THIS... He talks his CHI-TOWN shit... I TALK MY NYC SHIT... It's WHAT WE DO...
You have NO HORSE IN THIS RACE... NO NICKEL IN THIS QUARTER...
Niggas always ASSUMING...
Quincy Pondexter Putting in the Work
HOOPSWORLD recently caught up with Memphis Grizzlies forward Quincy Pondexter as he helped work with some of the young players at adidas Nations.
Pondexter was traded to the Grizzlies by the New Orleans Hornets right before last year’s abbreviated season began. He played 15.7 minutes a night over 64 games while shooting 45.2 percent from the field.
A capable perimeter defender, Pondexter made the most of his playoff minutes in the first round against the Los Angeles Clippers, shooting 66.7 percent from the field in the team’s defeat over seven games.
To improve his individual game, he’s already put in a “grueling” offseason.
“I’ve been really putting myself to the test, and really been working hard on the little aspects of my game that have to improve,” said Pondexter. “I just want to come in and contribute as much as I possibly can, hopefully help our team get a little further than we did last year. I’m just so excited to represent the Memphis Grizzlies next season.”
HOOPSWORLD recently caught up with Memphis Grizzlies forward Quincy Pondexter as he helped work with some of the young players at adidas Nations.
Pondexter was traded to the Grizzlies by the New Orleans Hornets right before last year’s abbreviated season began. He played 15.7 minutes a night over 64 games while shooting 45.2 percent from the field.
A capable perimeter defender, Pondexter made the most of his playoff minutes in the first round against the Los Angeles Clippers, shooting 66.7 percent from the field in the team’s defeat over seven games.
To improve his individual game, he’s already put in a “grueling” offseason.
“I’ve been really putting myself to the test, and really been working hard on the little aspects of my game that have to improve,” said Pondexter. “I just want to come in and contribute as much as I possibly can, hopefully help our team get a little further than we did last year. I’m just so excited to represent the Memphis Grizzlies next season.”
My pops was just in Vegas... and he said... He doesn't understand why Josh Selby isn't starting... I think that might be his favorite young player right now... He said Selby impressed him the most... I hope he gets some burn in Memphis... We'll see...
So if you don't know what I'm talking and I don't care... then WHY POST ANYTHING???...
You automatically ASSUME that I'm a typical pretentious NYer... YET... you have NO IDEA what the conversation is about...
If you walk in on two people having a conversation, and you hear one say that pigs bark, you don't need to know how the conversation started, to know what they just said is bullshit, now do you?
The origins of shaddyvillethug and your conversation doesn't change the fact that you saying MJ is from brooklyn is pure bullshit.
The homie and myself ALWAYS DO THIS... He talks his CHI-TOWN shit... I TALK MY NYC SHIT... It's WHAT WE DO...
You have NO HORSE IN THIS RACE... NO NICKEL IN THIS QUARTER...
Niggas always ASSUMING...
I actually kind of do have a horse in this race. I'm from NC.
EDIT:
I just went back to see where the discussion between you two started.
A chicago cat and a new york cat trying to claim mike.
FOH.
If you walk in on two people having a conversation, and you hear one say that pigs bark, you don't need to know how the conversation started, to know what they just said is bullshit, now do you?
The origins of shaddyvillethug and your conversation doesn't change the fact that you saying MJ is from brooklyn is pure bullshit.
I actually kind of do have a horse in this race. I'm from NC.
EDIT:
I just went back to see where the discussion between you two started.
A chicago cat and a new york cat trying to claim mike.
Regardless of MIKE... we STILL CRUSH Illinois... AND... I CAN claim MJ... for the simple fact that... I'm using the SAME list Shaddy used... If the argument was between you and I, then you'd have a LEGIT claim... BUT... Shaddy BROUGHT THE LIST into the equation... That's the whole point of this... You can't CHANGE up when the facts DON'T SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM. I've said it before... I KNOW WHERE MIKE LEARNED TO PLAY... but that's wasn't the question...
I understand where you're coming from... BUT... this is about... A nigga who put a FOOT IN HIS MOUTH... by pulling out a stat WITHOUT FULLY EXAMINING ALL OF THE STATS... and... No matter what anybody says... or FEELS... We, NYers, have a LEGIT claim to Mike... It's his BIRTHRIGHT... It's UNDENIABLE...
If you walk in on two people having a conversation, and you hear one say that pigs bark, you don't need to know how the conversation started, to know what they just said is bullshit, now do you?
The origins of shaddyvillethug and your conversation doesn't change the fact that you saying MJ is from brooklyn is pure bullshit.
I actually kind of do have a horse in this race. I'm from NC.
EDIT:
I just went back to see where the discussion between you two started.
A chicago cat and a new york cat trying to claim mike.
I have no dog in this fight but MJ's jet is Carolina Blue...
Just sayin'...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nice plane...
BROOKLYN'S IN THE HOUSE....
Nice plane...
BROOKLYN'S IN THE HOUSE....
wade will have 6 rings
Fuck mj y'all give that nigga to much fucking props -yeah he was the nicest like 20 yrs ago - besides the rings Bo Jackson is that real nigga - mj thought he was on Bo level n stunk it up mj didn't even lead in scoring on the dream team, with that said NY all day - as you where
who is better?
Overall athlete and personality wise as a human being Bo Jackson
This thread jumped the shark.
Lol tell me about it _ partially my fault
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