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Putting Steve Nash in a Los Angeles Lakers uniform will be the easiest part of this deal

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Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash. Andrew Bynum was 16 when this picture was taken.

Steve Nash's trade to the Los Angeles Lakers won't do much for the team's continued frustration with guarding quick point guards. It doesn't give the team a standout defender on the wing, to aid Kobe Bryant as he attempts to do double All-NBA duty on both sides of the ball. It won't provide immediate help in changing Andrew Bynum's level of maturity, because if Bynum wasn't going to get it straight for someone as demanding as Bryant, then this was something that went deeper than locker room guidance. And it's probably not going to provide an immediate panacea to the team's depth woes off the bench, or the frustration with trying to shoehorn Pau Gasol in at power forward.

What it will do is add Steve Nash, one of the best point guards in NBA history, to the Los Angeles Lakers. It will give the team and Bryant a new wrinkle they haven't worked with before — a dominant offensive point guard to pull the team either out of the triangle instincts they have left over (which we're a little uneasy with, because of those big men) or the Bryant-centric offense we saw last year (take a guess). And because this is Steve Nash we're talking about, this acts as a bit more than a wrinkle. This is a San Andrea-sized fissure.

And because this is Kobe Bryant we're talking about, the onus is going to fall on him again. He's going to have to give up the ball. He's going to have to cede to a point guard that can make life easier for other people offensively in ways that Kobe can't just by firing his way out of danger. Apparently he helped recruit Steve Nash, and he's going to have deal with the same in-season ramifications that too-eager owners and GMs talk themselves into during the offseason when their eagerness takes over. Kobe Bryant is going to have to make it work.


Nash is far from the perfect piece, even offensively. Bynum can gather a pass and dive down the lane with the best of them, but he's not nearly as willing as some of Nash's former teammates (Amar'e Stoudemire and Marcin Gortat, to name two) to bend to grab a bounce pass, nor stay as active throughout as Nash keeps buzzing around. At some point, he'll want to plod and post up, once fatigue sets in. On top of that, Bynum is going to have to work extra hard defensively, as the Lakers try to overcome their new point guard's lacking defensive play.

Gasol didn't just find his best friend, either. Pau can gather a pass and set a damn good screen as well, but he's at his best when the offense flows through him, and other than using Nash as a spot-up shooter (which he's among the best in the league at, when defenses actually leave him alone long enough to get a shot off in half-court), this really doesn't benefit Steve much beyond giving him a break as the primary offense initiator.

Except that this is Kobe's job, kind of. Nash will say so, when things become official and the Lakers hand him his uniform in public. And Kobe will demur, because it's July. Game time, especially in springtime, is another story. And if Bryant treats Nash like a souped-up Steve Kerr — ready to provide spacing as a shooter while Kobe goes into pump fake mode — then the Lakers won't be taking advantage of the significant gifts they've been afforded. Significant gifts that can put them right back in the Finals.

Lakers fans can bemoan me sprinkling on their latest parade all they want, but they also have to understand that I'm just as giddy as they are — without the flag affixed to my Corolla half a country away. They also need to understand that, without any Lakers logos stuck around my house, I found it a upsetting as they did that a team as good as this has procured just a 1-8 record in its last two second-round series'. We're aware that the team's issues went far beyond the easy swipe of "Kobe shoots too many inefficient shots too often, and especially late in close games," and that the Nash acquisition is not an answer to those issues. But we also know that Kobe Bryant has a lot of game modifying to do at an age that most players don't take to learning new tricks.

Los Angeles' new trick, after a year off, is spending money. For all we know the Laker front office could use the amnesty provision and cut anyone from Metta World Peace to Pau to Kobe Bryant free, but in the interim this team left us surprised at the out-of-nowhere acquisition of this certain Hall of Famer as we were at the idea that they would willingly head back into crazy luxury tax land with this deal. A huge shocker for a team that waylaid Lamar Odom's career, dumped Derek Fisher for a few million (only to see him show up as an opponent two months later), and decimated the team's scouting staff with firings (a staff that has to do more than watch college basketball games -- games that won't count now that the Lakers have given away a series of draft picks). To even toss $3 million Phoenix's way is saying something.

No, the Lakers have spent money, and until they deal one of their stars for pennies on the dollar, we'll applaud them for as much. And we applaud Kobe for aiding in this upgrade.

The proof is in the production, though. A second-round wipeout was embarrassment enough before Nash's arrival. With him in town now? Such a conference semifinal misstep would be criminal.
 
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine

Nick Young is signing with Philadelphia, agent Mark Bartelstein announces. Details to come
 
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine

2012 amnesty pool now ensured a big name because Philly can't re-sign Hawes & bring in Nick Young w/out letting Elton Brand go via amnesty
 
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine

2012 amnesty pool now ensured a big name because Philly can't re-sign Hawes & bring in Nick Young w/out letting Elton Brand go via amnesty



Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

Y! Sources: Philadelphia will use amnesty clause on Elton Brand, clearing way to sign Nick Young.
 
great move by the sixers plus smart not giving Young a long term deal if anything they still have his bird rights

as for brand???

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt

Source says Nets will definitely have interest in Brand if he clears waivers after amnesty.
 
bulls fan the 76ers may have giving you your player....



Lou Williams @TeamLou23

Philly, I appreciate you all. Unfortunately I will not be coming back, as an organization they decided to move in a different direction.
 
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Celtics Close To Signing Jeff Green

The Celtics are close to signing unrestricted free agent forward Jeff Green.

"I'm confident it'll get done," Green’s agent, David Falk, said. "I guess (Boston) got (Brandon) Bass' (contract) done, which is great. Jeff is trying to get a sense of what the team looks like first before he makes a commitment, but I expect he'll be there and I expect it'll be done by the 11th (when the free agency moratorium ends and deals can be formalized).”

Boston’s offer to Green may be "in the neighborhood" of four years for $40 million, according to a source with knowledge of the talks.



damn
 
bulls fan i the 76ers may have giving you your player....



Lou williams @teamlou23

philly, i appreciate you all. Unfortunately i will not be coming back, as an organization they decided to move in a different direction.

bulls need to jump on this

now!!!!!!!!!
 
Lou Williams could fill the void Ben Gordon left when he departed from the bulls. Suprised 76ers gave up on Lou. Wonder if their giving up on Young too with the drafting of Moe Harkless

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Lou Williams could fill the void Ben Gordon left when he departed from the bulls. Suprised 76ers gave up on Lou. Wonder if their giving up on Young too with the drafting of Moe Harkless

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they gonna give young another chance
 
Blazers Complete Buyout Of Shawne Williams

Shawne Williams and the Blazers have finalized a buyout agreement.
Williams was owed $3.1 million and will become an unrestricted free agent if he clears waivers.
 
The Brooklyn Nets have signed second round draft pick Tyshawn Taylor.



Taylor (6-3, 185), whose draft rights were acquired by Brooklyn from Portland in exchange for cash, was selected in the second round (41st overall) of the 2012 NBA Draft. As a four-year starter at Kansas, he amassed 1,580 career points, 14th most in school history. As a senior, the Hoboken, New Jersey native averaged career-bests with 16.6 points, 4.8 assists and 1.3 steals, helping the Jayhawks reach the NCAA title game.
 
they gonna give young another chance

I like Thad's game. A little undersized but he's got skill and gives a %100. But somebodies going have to go with them drafting Harkless. May not be this year but they can't coexist for long with them being damn near mirror images of each other physically and game wise

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The Brooklyn Nets have signed second round draft pick Tyshawn Taylor.



Taylor (6-3, 185), whose draft rights were acquired by Brooklyn from Portland in exchange for cash, was selected in the second round (41st overall) of the 2012 NBA Draft. As a four-year starter at Kansas, he amassed 1,580 career points, 14th most in school history. As a senior, the Hoboken, New Jersey native averaged career-bests with 16.6 points, 4.8 assists and 1.3 steals, helping the Jayhawks reach the NCAA title game.

Taylor could be this year's Norris Cole in terms of impact. Young dude with a chip on his shoulder who should have been drafted early. I think he has a better career than Marshall and Teague

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Raptors Pull QO To Bayless, Making Him UFA
Jul 06, 2012 3:16 PM EDT



The Raptors have pulled their qualifying offer to Jerryd Bayless.
Bayless will become an unrestricted free agent.
 
The band coming together....c'mon Ray.


Agent David Falk expressed optimism that he would reach a deal with the Celtics regarding his client, Jeff Green.

"Jeff has always had a goal to return to Boston," said Falk, who added that he was "optimistic" a new deal would be reached, although probably not until next week. Contracts can't be officially signed until Wednesday, July 11.

Green missed all of last season after having surgery to repair an aortic aneurysm. Before his condition was detected, he had reached agreement on a one-year deal with the Celtics that would have paid him $9 million. Sports Illustrated reported that a new deal could be "in the neighborhood" of $40 million over four years.
http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21211986/agent-optimistic-green-stays-celtics
 
The band coming together....c'mon Ray.


Agent David Falk expressed optimism that he would reach a deal with the Celtics regarding his client, Jeff Green.

"Jeff has always had a goal to return to Boston," said Falk, who added that he was "optimistic" a new deal would be reached, although probably not until next week. Contracts can't be officially signed until Wednesday, July 11.

Green missed all of last season after having surgery to repair an aortic aneurysm. Before his condition was detected, he had reached agreement on a one-year deal with the Celtics that would have paid him $9 million. Sports Illustrated reported that a new deal could be "in the neighborhood" of $40 million over four years.
http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21211986/agent-optimistic-green-stays-celtics


When you gonna give it up? Ray ain't fuckin wit you clown niggas no more. He wouldn't signed with bostink already.

He realizes all you niggas are clowns including ainge
 
If Ray balks...Miami will have Marcus Camby in for a visit.

They already have that planned, I like Ray and Lewis to be honest

either package would be good...both situation adds to the team

Allen/Camby....adds shooting and post defense/height
Lewis/Camby....adds shooting along with height and post defense
 
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If Ray balks...Miami will have Marcus Camby in for a visit.




Report: Marcus Camby to visit Heat this weekend


The Miami Heat may finally be in the market for a true center.

According to Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle, former Defensive Player of the Year Marcus Camby will travel to Miami this weekend.
Jonathan Feigen
@Jonathan_Feigen

Rockets center Marcus Camby to meet with Heat on Saturday, source said. Knicks next. Rockets unlikely, and not until after Asik decision.

Camby split last season with Portland and Houston, finishing the year with the Rockets averaging 7.1 points and 9.3 rebounds in 19 games.

The Heat normally have Chris Bosh or Joel Anthony on the court as the tallest player in a Heat uniform. With the addition of Camby, the 6-foot-11 veteran would benefit the Heat in the paint.

But Camby wouldn’t come cheap, as Fox Sports’ Chris Tomasson reports.

Chris Tomasson
@christomasson

Marcus Camby (per Houston Chronicle) will meet with Heat on Saturday. He's interested only in the $3 million exception, not vet minimum

It’s unclear how Camby’s want for the $3 million exception would affect the Heat going after Ray Allen. The shooting guard is currently being courted by the Heat and Celtics, with Boston being able to pay Allen more money than the reigning champions.


this means no Allen/Camby package
 
Report: Marcus Camby to visit Heat this weekend


The Miami Heat may finally be in the market for a true center.

According to Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle, former Defensive Player of the Year Marcus Camby will travel to Miami this weekend.


Camby split last season with Portland and Houston, finishing the year with the Rockets averaging 7.1 points and 9.3 rebounds in 19 games.

The Heat normally have Chris Bosh or Joel Anthony on the court as the tallest player in a Heat uniform. With the addition of Camby, the 6-foot-11 veteran would benefit the Heat in the paint.

But Camby wouldn’t come cheap, as Fox Sports’ Chris Tomasson reports.



It’s unclear how Camby’s want for the $3 million exception would affect the Heat going after Ray Allen. The shooting guard is currently being courted by the Heat and Celtics, with Boston being able to pay Allen more money than the reigning champions.


this means no Allen/Camby package

I'll pull up the link when I get home, but I saw a link somewhere that said the heat were looking into giving Ray the mini, and doing a sign and trade for Camby.

It's probably an extreme longshot, but they were in contact with Camby from day one
 
if the Heat get Camby its a wrap, period

don't even try and belittle the signing either cuz he is still VERY SOLID and exactly what they need
 
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