~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder(Heat 3-1)~-~-~-~

Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder(Heat 2-1)~-~-~

killa, they almost lost to the pacers...they struggled against the geriatric celtics (who struggled against the abysmal sixers). This team is FAR from invincible. For the next 2years you have three total players (Bron,Mario,Cole) who will maintain a steady rate of productivity on get slightly better...Everyone else on the roster will be at a slight or drastic decline in performance. On a nightly basis, you only have two players you can absolutely depend on getting their numbers (Bosh,Bron). Everyone else is a question mark and a maybe. It aint gonna be easy bro.

I dont like talking about this cause they aint win 1 yet but... You can call all the strikes you want against Miami. Every team has flaws. The question remains who can beat them in the East?
 
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killa, they almost lost to the pacers...they struggled against the geriatric celtics (who struggled against the abysmal sixers). This team is FAR from invincible. For the next 2years you have three total players (Bron,Mario,Cole) who will maintain a steady rate of productivity on get slightly better...Everyone else on the roster will be at a slight or drastic decline in performance. On a nightly basis, you only have two players you can absolutely depend on getting their numbers (Bosh,Bron). Everyone else is a question mark and a maybe. It aint gonna be easy bro.

okay a pacers team that won't return the same. Remember Hibbert is hitting the open market. So lets go ahead pencil him in for a max contract. Also George Hill is hitting the Market will the Pacers pay him? Lets not bring up Paul. Again many of these teams would have to improve drastic to challenge miami.
 
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Its easier to close out games in a shootout then it is in a grind out game. Its that East vs West difference.

Durant aint ever had to fight this hard just to get his hands on the ball.

They got heart though.

Every game is close.

they played grind it out games lol
they were only in 3 shootouts in 2 different series. the offenses are just better in the west.


he shouldn't have to fight that hard honestly because they foul him on that end...and when he tries to adjust they call a foul on him.

however this shit ain't on rus or durant. rus had the messed up game 2 since then he's been doing what he is supposed to... going to the rim because its there and there's nothing anyone on earth can do about it
other than shoot him
 
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i was soooooooooooo happy to see westbrook get off to the monster start,i just knew he was going to self destruct at some point.

i hope he comes out on fire next game to,that way durant stays out of the flow of the game
 
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you talking about players out of their prime again. We are talking about the team with the best player in the league on their team

Could the best player in the league do it in Cleveland :confused:

So Dirk was in his prime last year, but in a matter of six months he wasn't?
You think wade is going to get better?

You realize Wade has two more years, with two years of player options at over 17 mil right?

The reason Lebron is winning this series, is because Chalmers and Battier have provided help

He sure as hell isn't going to get it from Haslem and Miller.

And this is a team over the luxury cap that won't be able to use it's full mid level, so they can't provide much help. Plus they don't have trade able assets other than maybe Bosh.
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder(Heat 2-1)~-~-~

So now the team that lost four straight to the Thunder would have been a tougher matchup :lol:
Y'all cats are trying too hard right now...

NBA is about matchups and Miami is winning this series by closing out last min of these games in large part due to OKC inexperience and lack of composure in last min of games.Spurs would not be inexperienced or losing composure in those situations.OKC has proven to simply not be ready for the pressures of the finals.
 
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Well...Here's to hoping this sudden Harden roast feast last throughout the off-season.
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder(Heat 2-1)~-~-~

Heat took OKC's best shot....

again Heat ain't TRYING to go back to OKC...
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder(Heat 2-1)~-~-~

niggas are killing me with this miami is a better team shit

like yall are watching 20 point blow outs

every game has gone down to the wire

if the refs give durant the superstar calls

okc can easily win this

they just need to focus on one game at a time

lets keep it real.

Miami is getting how many second chance points and rebounds.

So is it the refs fault that OKC isn't boxing out?

How many free throws did OKC miss last game?

Again we can talk about the refs but at the same time lets not act like the Thunder haven't been fucking up.

Miami is the better team. That's all it is.

Also anyone seen Harden?
 
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niggas are killing me with this miami is a better team shit

like yall are watching 20 point blow outs

every game has gone down to the wire

if the refs give durant the superstar calls

okc can easily win this

they just need to focus on one game at a time

Look if the Heat were to play the Thunder 100 times they would win 70 games, and most of them would be close and a different excuse for every loss..
 
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Well...Here's to hoping this sudden Harden roast feast last throughout the off-season.

he is the reason they're losing
point blank all on him

i make my rus gifs just for fun
i think he's a hell of a player i get frustrated when he doesn't do what he's supposed to
he has the last 2 games
 
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lets keep it real.

Miami is getting how many second chance points and rebounds.

So is it the refs fault that OKC isn't boxing out?

How many free throws did OKC miss last game?

Again we can talk about the refs but at the same time lets not act like the Thunder haven't been fucking up.

Miami is the better team. That's all it is.

Also anyone seen Harden?

man are you really going to debate the refs...really?

if you cant see what everyone else sees

then there is no need to even debate with you, pimpin

its a waste of time

ive never seen poorer officiating

hell nah..you win man :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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Could the best player in the league do it in Cleveland :confused:

So Dirk was in his prime last year, but in a matter of six months he wasn't?
You think wade is going to get better?

You realize Wade has two more years, with two years of player options at over 17 mil right?

The reason Lebron is winning this series, is because Chalmers and Battier have provided help

He sure as hell isn't going to get it from Haslem and Miller.

And this is a team over the luxury cap that won't be able to use it's full mid level, so they can't provide much help. Plus they don't have trade able assets other than maybe Bosh.

Did the best player in the league have players like Bosh or Wade?

How did that team do without the best player in the league?
 
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Also anyone seen Harden?

nigga folding like a cheap suit...

peeps saying he is just having a bad game..

a bad game? game 1, 3 and 4 and what is prob the most important game of the series? dude looked like every much of a bench player 10th in the rotation ....
 
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Heat took OKC's best shot....

again Heat ain't TRYING to go back to OKC...

when did they have a complete game and still lost?
stop it man

the fact that nobody else has had a good game other than durant and westbrook lets you know that they haven't taken their best shot yet
 
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no its not...not even close :lol:

harden is playing shitty because he's been playing shitty the entire playoffs
like i said he had 3 good games in the entire postseason and 1 was against the heat.

the perimeter defense isn't doing shit... cause they're not shooting jumpers they're going to the lane and nobody can stop them

if rus decided to go to the lane every game this series he'd have that many points this series every night. he's bailed you out.
nobody is stopping durant... still havent.

harden is playing shitty cause its what he is doing he's getting shots and wide fucking open looks and missing...

stop it

:lol:You stop it, all that you just said proves that the Thunder have no chance, if Harden is no where to be found all playoffs, we are suppose to think he is going to explode in Game 5, 6 & 7 of the NBA finals? Or do you think the unstoppable Kevin Durant who once again disappeared in the fourth quarter and only shot 19 times with only 2 rebounds for the game and Westbrook will have 3 straight games like this one tonight are going to beat LBJ who is 48 minutes from his first title? Ok, i believe you...
 
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Look if the Heat were to play the Thunder 100 times they would win 70 games, and most of them would be close and a different excuse for every loss..

you sound ridiculous

:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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nigga folding like a cheap suit...

peeps saying he is just having a bad game..

a bad game? game 1, 3 and 4 and what is prob the most important game of the series? dude looked like every much of a bench player 10th in the rotation ....

i cannot allow the heat to take credit for this.

harden has been shitty the entire playoffs
and i have said as much
 
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he is the reason they're losing
point blank all on him

i make my rus gifs just for fun
i think he's a hell of a player i get frustrated when he doesn't do what he's supposed to
he has the last 2 games


Well then, I guess he's expendable.

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man are you really going to debate the refs...really?

if you cant see what everyone else sees

then there is no need to even debate with you, pimpin

its a waste of time

hell nah :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

You said it yourself. The game has been close. How many free throws did OKC miss in game 3????

again this is hilarious we going to bring up the refs but we not going to bring up OKC losing a close game and not making free throws:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


:lol::lol::lol:


A team loses a close game and they miss free throws they usually make. Hell Brooks and Durant talk about this monday morning. This was the first thing they talk about missing free throws and allowing second chance points.

If OKC make their free throws do they still lose the game???
 
NBA is about matchups and Miami is winning this series by closing out last min of these games in large part due to OKC inexperience and lack of composure in last min of games.Spurs would not be inexperienced or losing composure in those situations.OKC has proven to simply not be ready for the pressures of the finals.

Okc has nothing in the middle on ofwnse or defense...they need serious help.

And Durant just isn't physical enough...you can't win on jumpers; he's shying away from the contact at the rim.

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when did they have a complete game and still lost?
stop it man

the fact that nobody else has had a good game other than durant and westbrook lets you know that they haven't taken their best shot yet

lmaoooo 1 more to glory.. shit is water under the bridge now playa :lol:

OKC was supposed to blow the game out first quarter and blew the lead..

Harden is straight up shook.. nigga was open scared to shoot the rock... missing open layups on the break?

Heat gonna close it out Thursday...
 
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:lol:You stop it, all that you just said proves that the Thunder have no chance, if Harden is no where to be found all playoffs, we are suppose to think he is going to explode in Game 5, 6 & 7 of the NBA finals? Or do you think the unstoppable Kevin Durant who once again disappeared in the fourth quarter and only shot 19 times with only 2 rebounds for the game and Westbrook will have 3 straight games like this one tonight are going to beat LBJ who is 48 minutes from his first title? Ok, i believe you...

you said they took their best shot
you clearly see that they haven't
what should i stop?

where did i say they would come back and win?
see how you're adding shit on?

all i did was correct the myth that this was okc's best shot when it wasn't.
 
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Did the best player in the league have players like Bosh or Wade?

How did that team do without the best player in the league?

besides two games against Indiana, Wade hasn't done shit past 12 minutes in these playoffs man

Wade can't be counted on for help.

In fact he would be the fuckin scape goat with those two fuckin turnovers at the end of games two and three if they lost those games.

Dudes been anti clutch all year and goes MIA for halves if not games.

So no, I wouldn't think a team of Bosh and Lebron could be penciled in for three more titles with Wade's big ass contract around their necks. At 32 he sure as hell isn't going to get 22 mil on the open market or a long term contract, so you can count on him exercising those player options.
 
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i cannot allow the heat to take credit for this.

harden has been shitty the entire playoffs
and i have said as much

if he has been shitty all playoffs then he ain't a big game player...
 
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Series is over no team has ever EVER come back from being down 3-1. Thunder isn't ready. This is the beginning of the Heat Dynasty. Again what team is going to beat the Heat next year.

Do I need to mention the Bulls best player will likely be out all season and has the Bulls considering just saying "oh well" with next season.

The Thunder next year have to deal with Harden and Ibaka contract situations. Also the new CBA makes it harder and damn near impossible to put together these new super teams.

Miami made it to ECF not even playing their best. Miami will own the East for years



:hmm::hmm::hmm::lol::lol::lol:

Heat bandwagon filling up already...

They'll get this ring, but ain't no dynasty happening...have you seen Wade play? Ol' crying ass nigga...and looking at their cap situation, they ain't gonna add anyone of any substance in the off-season and Spoelstra will have to keep running Lebron into the ground just to get back to the Finals next year...I won't be surprised if Bron misses 30+ games next year due to injury....
 
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lmaoooo 1 more to glory.. shit is water under the bridge now playa :lol:

OKC was supposed to blow the game out first quarter and blew the lead..

Harden is straight up shook.. nigga was open scared to shoot the rock... missing open layups on the break?

Heat gonna close it out Thursday...

it is but right is right
i haven't hated on the heat 1 time on this board or online you can't show me where i've been critical unfairly to them

and as i said either way i'd be happy but i wanted straight up and i wanted 7
it hasn't been straight up and it isn't going 7

and harden ....
 
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if he has been shitty all playoffs then he ain't a big game player...

and where can it be found me saying he is?

think back to the lakers threads you saw me in the spurs thread you saw me in
this thread from game 1

when have I said he is?
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder(Heat 2-1)~-~-~

OKC led the NBA in free-throw percentage the last two years. This year, the Thunder kept a comfortable lead in the league, making 80.6 percent of their free throws.

In the Thunder's losses in Games 2 and 3, they shot a paltry 34-for-50 from the charity stripe. So, in the two most important games thus far in the franchise's history — I refuse to acknowledge the Seattle SuperSonics' history as the Thunder's — they are shooting 68 percent.

Both games were decided by fewer points than the Thunder missed at the stripe. Bottom line: That's not a statistic that wins championships.

The Thunder's struggles at the line hark back to the 2008 NCAA men's basketball tournament — an event that is close to my heart for all the wrong reasons.



The Thunder has finished ninth, second, first and first in the league in free-throw percentage. OKC’s .823 accuracy last season ranks fifth on the NBA’s all-time list.

This season’s .806 was down a tad from a year ago, but it still finished comfortably atop the league.

In its quest to reach the NBA Finals, OKC arose to the occasion by shooting .835 at the line the first three rounds against the Dallas Mavericks, Los Angeles Lakers and San Antonio Spurs.

Alas, under the bright lights of the NBA Finals, the Thunder inexplicably has wilted at the line against the Miami Heat, shooting a putrid .701 — a percentage that would have ranked 28th in the league this season.

Going into free-fall at the free-throw line is no way to try and beat the mighty Heat for the NBA title, which helps explain why OKC trails 2-1 in the best-of-7 series.

Compounding the problem, Miami is sizzling at .859 at the line in the Finals. This comes after shooting a combined .723 the first three rounds of the playoffs, including .691 in the Eastern Conference Finals against Boston.

Heading into the Finals, several unknown variables surrounded the young and impressionable Thunder, but tossing bricks from the free-throw line was not one of them.

So far in the series, the Heat has attempted one more free throw than OKC, yet has scored 13 more points at the line.

The Thunder hopes to relocate its long lost free-throw friend before Game 4 on Tuesday at 8 p.m. in American Airlines Arena. Otherwise, OKC might brick itself into a corner in a tale more horrifying than anything Edgar Allan Poe could imagine.

Trying to get to the root of the Thunder’s line woes brings nothing by shrugged shoulders and shaking heads.

When a great free-throw shooting team suddenly goes cold from the line, it suggests nervousness. However, don’t dare suggest that to a younger OKC player like James Harden, who defiantly dismissed the suggestion during Monday’s interview sessions.

“You can’t make every shot. You can’t make every free throw,” said Harden, who is shooting .714 from the line in the Finals after shooting .846 in the regular season.

Even three-time scoring champ Kevin Durant is not himself. A career .878 marksman from the line, Durant is misfiring at .737 in the Finals.

“I don’t know, man,” Durant said, searching for an explanation. “We’ve just got to make them next game. I wouldn’t say it’s nerves because we miss a free throw, and (we) then hit a big 3 after that or get a big stop and then hit a layup.”

Young Thunder players appear to be fighting the “Seven Stages of Grief” trying to cope with losing their shooting touch at the line.

The first stage is “shock and denial.” No doubt all this is shocking. As for denial, see the aforementioned replies from Harden and Durant.

Starting guard Thabo Sefolosha admitted it’s nerves.

“I mean, what else could explain it?” said the 28-year-old Sefolosha. “There’s no way around it and there’s no reason to lie about it to ourselves. This is the Finals so, yeah, I would think we’d be pretty nervous. We’ve just got to go to the line and learn to clear our minds.”

In Sefolosha’s opinion, free-throw shooting is one of many facets OKC needs to get straightened out if it’s to win the NBA championship.

“We need to not play so much for the prize (trophy) right now, but play for our pride, you know,” Sefolosha said. “That’s what we have to do.”

Perhaps no one is better than 16-year veteran Thunder point guard Derek Fisher at explaining the inexplicable, but even he has trouble gaining any traction.

“It’s tough to explain it,” Fisher said. “Sometimes you just miss.

“It’s interesting that with free-throw shooting, a lot of times it’s the biggest example of basketball being a team game because it just sometimes gets contagious. A guy misses a free throw, then a guy who makes 99 percent, he’ll miss a free throw and it just becomes this contagious thing that happens for some reason.

“It may or may not be nerves, but if it is, it’s understandable. It’s a part of the biggest stages in every sport. You have to figure out how to balance that emotion and those nerves. Those guys teeing off on hole No. 1 at the U.S. Open yesterday had some nerves. That just comes with the program. Those that kind of figure that out realize that maybe you have some nerves and how to just balance it and manage it. Those are the ones who ultimately end up being successful.”

Who better as an objective outside party than television analyst and former coach Jack Ramsey, who coached 1,647 NBA games and has been with the league since 1969?

“Has to be nerves. Has to be,” Ramsey said. “Now, nobody likes to admit that. I see no other reason for the best-shooting team in the league for the regular season and into the playoffs to this point to shoot like they’ve been shooting.”

Is it contagious?

“I think so,” Ramsey said. “Sometimes you have to go through these learning stages to beat it, and then it should be there forever. But some players let it haunt them, and they never get it back.”

As for the Heat suddenly heating up at the line, could someone please explain that?

“I don’t know, man,” Miami guard Dwyane Wade said, seemingly embarrassed. “I think we got lucky that they missed some free throws (in Sunday’s 91-85 loss in Game 3). They don’t miss many. Unbelievable percentage as a team, and I think for us as a team, we’ve got to understand that.

“We shot poorly in the beginning of the playoffs from the free-throw line. I think we understand that if we want to reach our goal, we have to step up to the line and we have to make free throws when we get our opportunity. A lot of games can be lost at the line and they can be won at the line. I thought that we got lucky that they missed some (15 for 24), especially in the midst of our run to help us get back in the game. We missed a bullet there.”

Read more: http://newsok.com/nba-finals-thunde...free-throw-line/article/3685721#ixzz1yIxiCASJ


Lebron misses free throws he choke but the team that has had the best shooting percentage from the free throw line the last two years is struggling from the line and it's the refs fault?
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder(Heat 2-1)~-~-~

you sound ridiculous

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Seriously the Heat have controlled every quarter since the first game, except this game where OKC were able to build up a 17 point lead, and still lost it... In every single game since the first the Heat virtually lead gate to finish, never falling behind too big and never giving up a lead once they had it, while always owning OKC the forth... These are all symptoms of dominance, and until OKC can learn to take charge, playing their game instead of trying to beat the Heat at their own game, I see more dominance by Miami..
 
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they played grind it out games lol
they were only in 3 shootouts in 2 different series. the offenses are just better in the west.


he shouldn't have to fight that hard honestly because they foul him on that end...and when he tries to adjust they call a foul on him.

however this shit ain't on rus or durant. rus had the messed up game 2 since then he's been doing what he is supposed to... going to the rim because its there and there's nothing anyone on earth can do about it
other than shoot him


Lol neither Dallas, LA or SA d-up physically as much as Miami does.

In fact neither one of those teams, even when they won, made it hard for the Thunder to get in their sets.

At all.
 
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and where can it be found me saying he is?

think back to the lakers threads you saw me in the spurs thread you saw me in
this thread from game 1

when have I said he is?

I know one thing I think teams are looking at him right now and reconsidering giving him a max contract... He will prob resign with okc
 
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