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These Total Punches Thrown stats don't tell you dick.. Where are the round for round Punch stats?
the only thing last night that put a smile on my face last night...my nigga Bailey landed that vintage right hand bomb in the 10th and mike jones went down ASAP but gets up..then in the 11th crushes that nigga Mike with another right hand bomb..left him leaking and shit...an aging near shot fighter beats down a young overhyped contender and is champion again after 10 years...man they need to get him a fight with malignaggi or hell id like to see him land a bomb like that on tim bradley...he deserves a big money fight
I think Pac won, but he in no way "destroyed" Bradley, g.
So?
He thought he would win. You think he's a part of the Top Rank marketing team or something? How hard is it to make one of these in 2012?
Hell, I bet the NBA had BOSTON CELTIC 2012 EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS shirts made up just in case.
Bob Arum doesn't need to come up with grand schemes, he promotes both guys so he wins either way. But he defintiely was an asshole for undercutting Bradley's win with what he said Bradley told him before the decision. True or not, you don't do that to your own fighter.
So, with boxing's history of shenanigans you think Arum didn't have some sort of fix in? Money aside, you don't think that this was some sort of ploy for Manny/Arum to avoid Floyd? Floyd will be out by November, but somehow Arum has avoided the Pac/Floyd fight once again. IF it happens, it won't be in 2012, because Manny is already committed to fight TB again.
Any downloadable links to the fight available yet?
Rematch in November.
They showed this pic on Sportscenter a lil while ago and said Bradley tweeted this a few days ago.
people would be complete idiots to buy that bullshit
Honestly... if there were shenanigans it was because Manny is on that shit and he rather lose to Bradley than get exposed by Mayweather in and out the ring. Top Rank is in a tough spot with its cash cow talking retirement every other month and not having enough excuses for why he can't face Mayweather. It would almost make sense if they thought they could make Bradley a superstar on the level of Pac and Mayweather, but seeing as how that is the toughest sell in the world... I would have a hard time believing the fix is in, but you never know.
I turned the volume down and just watched the fight without dickhead ass Jim Lampley telling me how great Pac was. They have a way of skewing the viewer's thoughts on the fight.
I scored it 7 rounds to 5 for Pac but I thought the fight was extremely close. Pac has a way of throwing his punches in flurries and they really don't land flush on the jaw or chin. Of course, like all fighters, he lands some clean punches but most are glancing and arm punches. I don't think the judges saw those as effective strikes. They chose Bradley's jab over Pacs flurries. BTW when hasn't a jab been considered a punch? Ali won fights using only the jab during his second reign. Larry Holmes was exclusively a jab/uppercut fighter as well.
I don't think this fight was an injustice. They'll do it again and I wonder if Pac's age (or lack of PED's for you dudes that believe he was on the shit) will wear him down as his career nears it's twilight.
I scored it 7 rounds to 5 for Pac but I thought the fight was extremely close. Pac has a way of throwing his punches in flurries and they really don't land flush on the jaw or chin. Of course, like all fighters, he lands some clean punches but most are glancing and arm punches. I don't think the judges saw those as effective strikes. They chose Bradley's jab over Pacs flurries. BTW when hasn't a jab been considered a punch? Ali won fights using only the jab during his second reign. Larry Holmes was exclusively a jab/uppercut fighter as well.
I don't think this fight was an injustice. They'll do it again and I wonder if Pac's age (or lack of PED's for you dudes that believe he was on the shit) will wear him down as his career nears it's twilight.
Ehhhh............ come on now, lets not get ridiculous. Pac won but he destroyed nothing in this fight.
Thats what I'm still waiting to see. I'm betting the round by round punch stats will probably show Pac cruising in some of those rounds and going hard in others which may have cost him with the judges.
Y'all need to stop with this conspiracy theory, they were afraid of Floyd bullshit.
Floyd isn't fighting again this year, he basically said so himself. He won't get out until sometime in August and that wouldn't be enough time to train and promote a fight as big as Pac vs. Mayweather. Floyd won't be fighting again until May 5th 2013.
If the fix was in don't you think they would have made it a little less obvious, especially if Manny were in on it? A competitive fight with a controversial ending is one thing, this fight was boring. Nobody deep down wants to see this fight again.
They were already on their way to selling Pac vs. Cotto 2 which would have done better numbers than this rematch after Cotto looking so good against Floyd. Or Pac vs. Marquez would have been another great option.
In addition they've lost any negotiating footing with Floyd and from a pride standpoint alone Arum wouldn't have done that because he hates Floyd.
I agree it wasn't the blowout that HBO had people believing it was.
Only thing I would disagree with you on is the jab because Pac out landed Bradley in jabs also.
Again I'm trying to find the round by round punch stat numbers. I suspect the story is in those numbers. I'll bet Pac coasting and trying to flurry in the last minute or less of some rounds cost him in the eyes of these judges.
Like you I'm going to have to watch the fight again, maybe with the TV muted or find the fight with the British commentators since they always seem to be far less biased.
Round by Round punch stat numbers:
As I thought Pac's punchstat numbers were a little deceiving. He was extremely active in some rounds and coasted others, allowing Bradley to steal rounds.
Look at rounds 1-3, Bradley outworked Pac significantly. Though Pac landed more it wasn't anything significant that would stand out to the judges. But Bradleys work rate would stand out.
Look at the last four rounds. With the exception of the 9th Bradley outworked Pac in all those rounds.
Judges don't know what punches are landed, which are not counted. They don't have punch stats. Its obvious that Bradley's work rate and Pac's coasting is what they judged.
Like I said Pac won but these numbers confirm he coasted in some rounds which cost him.
As I thought Pac's punchstat numbers were a little deceiving. He was extremely active in some rounds and coasted others, allowing Bradley to steal rounds.
Look at rounds 1-3, Bradley outworked Pac significantly. Though Pac landed more it wasn't anything significant that would stand out to the judges. But Bradleys work rate would stand out.
Look at the last four rounds. With the exception of the 9th Bradley outworked Pac in all those rounds.
Judges don't know what punches are landed, which are not counted. They don't have punch stats. Its obvious that Bradley's work rate and Pac's coasting is what they judged.
Like I said Pac won but these numbers confirm he coasted in some rounds which cost him.
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Explain?
Rick Spanish said:Yaaaa knnoowww... They had Pac winning every single round and shit..
I have to start watching international streams so I don't have my opinion swayed by these idiots..
I watched the English stream...the one that had Ricky Hatton on the panel. Hatton gave Bradley 2 rounds.
Round by Round punch stat numbers:
As I thought Pac's punchstat numbers were a little deceiving. He was extremely active in some rounds and coasted others, allowing Bradley to steal rounds.
Look at rounds 1-3, Bradley outworked Pac significantly. Though Pac landed more it wasn't anything significant that would stand out to the judges. But Bradleys work rate would stand out.
Look at the last four rounds. With the exception of the 9th Bradley outworked Pac in all those rounds.
Judges don't know what punches are landed, which are not counted. They don't have punch stats. Its obvious that Bradley's work rate and Pac's coasting is what they judged.
Like I said Pac won but these numbers confirm he coasted in some rounds which cost him.
That is how I can see it being the case. Manny could have sealed the deal from 10-12. He didn't.
He did get robbed but these round by round numbers show how he went into cruise control for a lot of this fight and it cost him
He did get robbed but these round by round numbers show how he went into cruise control for a lot of this fight and it cost him
Let me ask you this. Can you see Timmy winning 3 or 4 of the first 9 rounds? If you can argue 3 then we have a draw cause he clearly won all last three rounds. If you see him winning 4 out the 9 then he wins. Robbed would imply Timmy won zero rounds. I personally don't see that.
Man fuck that shit... I watched the whole fight twice and Bradley clearly beat Manny!!!! 
I personally only gave Bradley 4 rounds out of the entire fight. I could possibly see giving him one more close round but best case scenario for Bradley from my point of view would be 115-113 Pacquiao.
Ok. But every can see a fight different. The face you said 115 - 113 implies a close fight. That is my whole point. Great fight.
No I said best case scenario 115-113, as in giving him a round.
During my first viewing I had it 8-4 for Pac. I didn't see it as the dominating performance that many did but I don't see Bradley winning at all.
Round by Round punch stat numbers:
As I thought Pac's punchstat numbers were a little deceiving. He was extremely active in some rounds and coasted others, allowing Bradley to steal rounds.
Look at rounds 1-3, Bradley outworked Pac significantly. Though Pac landed more it wasn't anything significant that would stand out to the judges. But Bradleys work rate would stand out.
Look at the last four rounds. With the exception of the 9th Bradley outworked Pac in all those rounds.
Judges don't know what punches are landed, which are not counted. They don't have punch stats. Its obvious that Bradley's work rate and Pac's coasting is what they judged.
Like I said Pac won but these numbers confirm he coasted in some rounds which cost him.
Thanks for doing that
I hate when they do the total shit, because fights are scored by round not overall.
Manny has always been active in some rounds and totally disinterested in others.
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You can hate on Pacquiao that s cool....
but had that been any two random fighters who fought that fight and the decision went that way it would have been robbery.
but had that been any two random fighters who fought that fight and the decision went that way it would have been robbery.
Round by Round punch stat numbers:
As I thought Pac's punchstat numbers were a little deceiving. He was extremely active in some rounds and coasted others, allowing Bradley to steal rounds.
Look at rounds 1-3, Bradley outworked Pac significantly. Though Pac landed more it wasn't anything significant that would stand out to the judges. But Bradleys work rate would stand out.
Look at the last four rounds. With the exception of the 9th Bradley outworked Pac in all those rounds.
Judges don't know what punches are landed, which are not counted. They don't have punch stats. Its obvious that Bradley's work rate and Pac's coasting is what they judged.
Like I said Pac won but these numbers confirm he coasted in some rounds which cost him.
What's your point.
Pac still landed more power shots every round, plus he's a much harder puncher. I can't remember Bradley landing one significant shot.
This wasn't as bad as PWill's gift. I thought Sturm's robbery against Oscar was way worse and deliberate.
You think a judge sitting ringside is aware of power shots landed?
they don't have the benefit of getting punch stat numbers, which landed and didn't, # of power punches, # of jabs, etc.
So what do they judge on Chief? You ever judge a fight ringside? These fools see thousands of fights, and no way in hell they have no ability to see what is a quality punch and what isn't... If that was the case, then the way to win a boxing match would be to just run at your opponent, and swing wildly as much as you can...
Stop trying to justify the judges bullshit in this fight... You really aren't making ANY SENSE at all... They fucked up judging this fight, and unless there names are Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles, theres no excusing this bullshit...
So what do they judge on Chief? You ever judge a fight ringside? These fools see thousands of fights, and no way in hell they have no ability to see what is a quality punch and what isn't... If that was the case, then the way to win a boxing match would be to just run at your opponent, and swing wildly as much as you can...
Stop trying to justify the judges bullshit in this fight... You really aren't making ANY SENSE at all... They fucked up judging this fight, and unless there names are Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles, theres no excusing this bullshit...
C/S It doesn't take much to see when a guy is getting rocked over and over again. All the activity in the world doesn't add up to getting your head snapped back. There was a clear visual difference when Bradley landed and when Pac landed. I don't know why anyone would even try to argue in favor of what the judges did here.
So what do they judge on Chief? You ever judge a fight ringside? These fools see thousands of fights, and no way in hell they have no ability to see what is a quality punch and what isn't... If that was the case, then the way to win a boxing match would be to just run at your opponent, and swing wildly as much as you can...
Stop trying to justify the judges bullshit in this fight... You really aren't making ANY SENSE at all... They fucked up judging this fight, and unless there names are Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles, theres no excusing this bullshit...
Lol, so you don't put any responsibility on Manny? I think Manny won, but he gave Timmy a chance by coasting at the end. If he fought like he wanted it. There wouldn't be this conversation.
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